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It's like one of my fav scenes. Just look at them, people. LOOK. AT. THEM.
Niles first letting her fall, and then feeling her up/making sure she is okay.
Again, peak enemy behavior for sure...
From Season 2, Episode 13, The Strike
#cc babcock#c.c. babcock#niles the butler#lauren lane#daniel davis#niles x cc#cc x niles#niles and cc#the nanny#otp#otp: hate you more
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“Nine would have treated Martha better than Ten did”
I need to talk about this argument that never seems to stop circulating.
Note: Not a venomous/anti post. There’s more than enough of that across fandom spaces as is, and this is supposed to be a place for ✨sweet, blissful escapism✨
When making this argument, people seem to envision a scenario in which Nine never met Rose.
While I can appreciate a good hypothetical, recognizing Rose's significance to the Doctor (Nine and Ten) is essential to understanding why things with Martha played out the way they did in the first place.
In the third series, the Doctor is grieving. This grief is deliberately threaded into nearly every script, whether spoken aloud or not (and these are just a few examples):
He's burning in Rose’s wake the entire time Martha travels with him, which is why it’s so frequently called upon: It’s 100% deliberate in framing his grief. He grieved as Nine too, of course— having been fresh on the heels of the Time War — but then he met Rose, which changed everything.
Back then, he was still a rude, traumatized pain in the ass, but we watch Rose soften more of those jagged edges with every episode as they grow closer; as he lets his guard down and forms a deep connection with her.
He falls in love (against his better judgment) and it's game over.
And yes: provided S1E1 had been titled 'Martha', one can realistically assume things might have unfolded similarly to how they did with Rose. However, it wouldn’t have been that way just because the Doctor was Nine and “Nine was different” — it would be because he wasn’t already in love with someone else. The same can't be said for the start of S3.
Think of it like this: if Rose AND Martha had been in that cellar — if Nine had taken both of them along with him in S1 — we’d eventually be looking at the most melodramatic love triangle ever, what with him living in close quarters with two brilliant, gorgeous, compassionate young women... But Doctor Who is plenty “soap opera” as is with just one woman in the TARDIS.
(I certainly wouldn’t object to reading that fic, though)
Now, regarding the unrequited elephant in the room…
His inability to be romantic with Martha isn’t because he thinks her lesser, nor is it for lack of compatibility. It isn't because Rose is any better than her. It certainly isn’t just because he’s Ten.
It’s really only for one reason, which can't be denied — and now I’m a broken record:
He is still in love with Rose.
(cut from a tenrosedaily gif)
Nine is Ten, and Ten is only such a mess in S3 because he’s just lost the love of his life. Martha merely got caught in the crosshairs of a volatile Time Lord in mourning, and yes — it sucks. Absolutely.
But it also feels dismissive to chalk Ten and Martha’s relationship up to little more than some sort of mindless dance of pining, jealousy, and toxicity.
Ten trusted Martha with his life over and over again — and hers, with him. He constantly praised her brilliance, happily carting her around time and space with no intention of letting her go. In the BBC’s extended universe of novels/comics/cartoons/etc, there’s so much depth to their relationship: love and trust and trauma and sacrifice. They had their own special bond as mates, their own complexities — so it’s a bummer that it's forever overshadowed by the other things.
I’m not denying that there was a lot of stuff that sucked/was for sure toxic about Ten's S3 behavior, but so many of the things I've seen him catching flak for can be directly attributed to being A Clueless Fucking Alien Idiot (not a trait that’s unique to Ten) — as well as his flat-out obliviousness to Martha’s feelings.
So yes, I agree: if Rose never existed, he would have treated Martha differently as Nine. He also would have treated her differently as Ten. Certainly.
But Rose did exist, and when discussing canon, it matters.
“He tells me that he absolutely, 100% loves Rose... He tells me how my daughter; my wonderful, beautiful, clever little girl saved him from himself before… And he says that’s all because of me! I made her into the Rose Tyler that saved him.”
-Jackie Tyler, Flight Into Hull!
Martha got the short end of the stick in S3. She came round at the wrong place and time, but that doesn't mean it was all bad. It doesn't mean the Doctor didn’t adore her. It certainly doesn't mean the time they spent together was wasted or worthless. They were brilliant!
Sure, he could be a twat, but let it be known that he was a twat with Rose as well, both as Nine and Ten. I’m sure Tentoo can be plenty infuriating, too. So while I'll defend Ten (and Tentoo) into the ground forever and ever and ever, I'll concede that he's fucked up.
The Doctor is a certified Pain In The Ass. It’s one of the things I love so much about this character — dynamics.
But never forget that Martha was goddamn tough as nails and overcame every bit of it. She moved on with her life, and the Doctor moved on with his. One can only pray that, when they inevitably drag her back onto the show (which feels inevitable if I'm honest), we see at once that she's been living her best life for all these years.
#I'm paranoid af about posting this but also feel like maybe two people will read it so perhaps I'm safe#doctor who#tenth doctor#ninth doctor#rose tyler#martha jones#baby's first meta#dw meta#I hope this wasn't just a mess of discombobulated stream-of-consciousness chatter#try as I may to avoid it#I'm somehow still aware of the sea of bad fandom vibes surrounding almost every character mentioned#besides Nine - who for some reason seems to be above reproach#there's a painful absence of civil discourse#especially where shipping is concerned#but let me tell you#I've vibed with T/M people about T/R and T/R people about T/M and it is a beautiful thing#I wish we could all just get along#also I've got so many more thoughts about this topic#like an embarrassingly long list of thoughts#I tried to scale it down as best I could while also being as inoffensive as possible#gonna crawl back under my rock now#also you should all go read Peacemaker#best DW novel since the Stone Rose#belated tag added way after the fact but:#for some reason I’ve yielded so much hate mail since originally posting this#because I suppose some people have only cottoned on to my enjoyment of T/M#but please note that I’ve been writing my T/M series since 2022#it’s had no bearing whatsoever on my love of T/R+T2/R aka the OTP of all time#but I’m also a grown-ass woman in my thirties and we are all playing with dolls here#I just wanna spread love and write smut and I do this for fun so if you can’t be nice - then I don’t want you reading anyway
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they really weren't kidding about the rom-com vibes in this season.
#*carly catalogs#bridgerton#bridgerton s3#no offense but they've said that in the past two previous seasons and sorry i did not get any rom-com vibes from s1 or s2#but then again it took me a little while longer to get into this show cause i'm not gonna lie i hated s1#idk how to explain it but something about both simon and daphne's characters book and show really pissed me off for some reason??#like... i don't like them at AAALLLLL#and i found their love story to be the least bit romantic (out of the 8)#and initially i wasn't gonna watch s2 cause of how much i didn't like s1 but the beautiful gifmakers on here got me#i enjoyed s2 sooooo much more#but THIS???!!!!!!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!#THIS#THIS IS SOME OF THE MOST HEART MELTING ROMANTIC SHIT I HAVE EVER!!!! SEEN!!!!!!!#it especially felt like one when....#cressida was explaining to lord debling that colin and pen have been friends since the featherington's moved across the street from them#oh wow would you look at how much i rambled 😳#but i can't help it that friends to lovers is MY bread and butter#colin bridgerton#penelope featherington#polin#otp: you are special to me
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I find the idea that Armand and Louis were pretending to be in love for Daniel so interesting. Did they have a verbal agreement beforehand to be more loving than they generally were together? Did they just both want it to be true so much that they were in sync on that idea without discussing it? I feel like it's probably the latter. I believe there was still love and trust between Louis and Armand in Dubai when Daniel got there. I can't think of any other explanation as to why Armand's touch on Louis' shoulder instantly calmed him down(something that would NOT have happened in a dead relationship, and no, I don't buy that it was mind control; Armand could have controlled Louis' mind from afar, literally the only reason for Armand to touch Louis would be because he knew his touch would calm Louis down), and why Armand hovered protectively over Louis in 1x07. I think perhaps that lingering love was strong enough that they both took advantage of an opportunity to be loving with each other again, something I believe had faded in their relationship as they were both holding each other at arms' length. They were pretending, but in a way they also weren't. They wanted to love each other like they did in Paris. I think perhaps memories of how they felt about each other in Paris was the main thing holding up their relationship. Maybe they thought that in doing the interview they'd be able to capture that magic again. Just neither of them seemed to reflect on how recounting what happened to Claudia would take them right back to square one.
#interview with the vampire#iwtv#loumand#otp: i want you more than anything in the world#louis de pointe du lac#the vampire armand#armand#my little amber-eyed pumpkin#loumand meta#iwtv meta#my meta#to be clear I ship Loumand so keep the Loumand hate to a minimum
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Day 11: Freesia "Our bond is the strongest."
#LmMarchofFlowers#chaggie#charlie morningstar#vaggie#vaggie hazbin hotel#I'm gonna be honest with yall#I'm not the BIGGEST shipper of these two#I do wish they weren't dating at the start and were just... pining hard for each other for three years#then with Out For Love happened it woulda been an OH DANG moment#I just wish there was more... On screen chemistry? I guess?#don't hate me I drew you art pls#I think they are cute they just aren't my OTP
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Young odysseus convincing everyone Ithaca is nothing but a poor island with rocks and goats to avoid any raids/conquerors/so he doesn't get murdered for talking to Helen bc "it's not like he's a real choice"
Young odysseus falling in love with Penelope at the same event: wait. Wait shit I fucked up hold on just hear me out
#the odyssey#Odysseus#Penelope#Pre-canon(?)#odypen#Odypen meet ulgy#When the cute “bumpkin” boy wants to marry you but only brought 3 goats for your cousins gifts#AND you caught him spying on your family#There's like a single line in the odyssey where I think some god is narratoring (not 100% sure)#And they have a well actually interjection moment to explain how Ithaca isn't just one island it actually has a shit ton of land#And is technically richer then every other country#Which honestly just makes it funnier that odysseus was like welp time to beg again with zero issues for 10 years#But it will never not be funny to me that young odysseus really shot himself in the foot with Penelopes family for the start#Like clearly it worked out but I bet Penelope father HATES him#Listen odysseus showed up to Helen's courting for the drama ONLY he never planned on marrying her#Bc he knew her husband would be murdered immediately#My man showed up for the drama and stayed for Penelope#Otp#I love them#And need more of these two being rat bastards to each other and LOVING it#Listen neither one of them has let a single thing go in their whole life and they like that about the other#Odysseus going to buy anything for his wife ever#Penelope: Oh my can we afford that this is just a simple rock island with a few goats#Odysseus: dressed head to toe in very very rich cloth that his wife made#Ithaca with the fastest ships bc ody designed new ones#Penelope: literally dripping with jewels that were MAYBE stolen (shut up you can't prove anything and Penelope likes it when he's a bastard#Odysseus: you're so right my bad that was so irresponsible for getting you a gift. Perhaps your father would like to pay instead?
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imagine an ending for the vampire diaries where damon and elena, stefan and caroline, and bonnie and enzo just got to live long happy lives together as vampires (and a witch) as a family. like they could have had it all.
#tvd#the vampire diaries#delena#steroline#bonenzo#we all know I’ve always been a klaroline girl but the more times I watch it the more I think steroline is the healthiest most well developed#relationship on the show#I said what I said#I just hate the ending sm#like imagine. they all loved each other sm by the end and they would have been a family forever#bonnie could have slowed down her aging#ugh I’m sad#otp: you are my life
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nace as taylor swift albums
midnights (2022)
insp
#nace#naceedit#nancy drew#nancydrewedit#nancy drew cw#okay so some of this i like some of this i hate#but i haven't giffed in so long so there we go#i also tried to make the colors the colors that#i think of/associate with these songs#i doubt that reads#but i don't wanna make all the colors the same#so there you go#yes this is a gif series so there shall be more#creations: gifs#tv: nancy drew#otp: i couldn't lose you#meme: nace as taylor swift albums
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lila wants to alter the way her mind works and elena and enzo love her for that very thing. i never think about this.
#jo in the tardis*#she's forcing herself to be done with books and the wonders of the universe because all her life#she's been lead to believe this instrumental aspect of her character should be eliminated#and then elena is like lila please read my book... and enzo is like lila let's do math together...#OH and how enzo mentions learning german and then lila's excitement at seeing elena's book translated in german...#she wants child lila to be goneeee and both elena and enzo fell in love with her when she was a child...#it's better to pretend something couldn’t have happened than to constantly think about who you might've been#that is definitely a part of the reasoning behind lila's pessimism. but i think especially after nino#she's more focused on 'what an ugly thing a restless mind' element of the issue#and elena finds her in the books she writes... enzo repeats her sentences when he visits elena and pietro...#i could make a similar post about elena but it hurts me to think about her feeling bad about herself...#elenalila INVENTED i love you for the thing you hate yourself for...#2 in 1: little dot with the flames round it#otp: diagram of the door opening#l'amica geniale#ferranteposting
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Unpopular opinion #3 (since people seem to like these stuff)
I'm gonna get hate for this but
Hinny feels forced and out of nowhere to me.
They had the perfect set up for a cute romance. Best friend's younger sister whom he's used to take care of, but suddenly she grows, doesn't seek his attention anymore and he slowly gets to know her as her own person instead of his buddie's sister. He find himself drawn to her and feels guilty about it for the typical reasons, only to realize she feels the same way, always has, and boom, their feelings finally clash in a passionate kiss after months of sexual tension and years of mutual pining. Beautiful.
Or at least that's what could have been if we saw them interacting more after the Chamber of Secrets thing, but we don't. Ginny practically dissapears after that, we only know of her through others' pov, and when she finally becomes relevant in harry's radar is when she's dating other boys and shows her skills in the quidditch field. Then suddenly, he notices how beautiful and funny she is, even though they're from the same house and they've surely seen each other often, either at the Burrow or around the common room.
They don't have a proper built-up, or any relevant interactions that hints at harry's interest in her, at least not enough to showcase the epic endgame couple they're supposed to be. It feels to me like the recurring trope that when a girl is in love with the protagonist long enough, she's bound to end up with him. Or the when someone is in love with you for so long, you must give them a chance.
I think one of the reasons it pisses me off so much is ginny's wasted potential. Because we could have had an amazing and compelling story about personal growth with a girl that, sick of being in her brothers' shadow and overlooked, finds the courage to forge her own path and make people recognize her for who she is, not as another Weasley. A story where, instead of fooling around to "make time" until her crush to notices her, she moves on from him and starts to date boys because she actually likes them and enjoys dating.
But no. Instead, all that development from her part is reduced to "hermione told me you might like me if i acted more like myself" "she told me to date other boys" bla bla bla
In conclussion:
Hinny had great potential as a love story, but it was done poorly
(REMINDER: This is just my opinion, and by no means i intend to force it unto other people or offend anyone. if you like hinny as a couple, good for you. I won't attack you because of it)
#i love ginny weasley as her own character#she's a fucking badass and a damn queen#but when it comes to her relationship with harry potter?#EW#no thank you i'll pass#i hate when a girl's personal growth is built around her hopeless crush for a guy#she had all the reasons in the world to want to grow as a person but an unrequited crush WASN'T one#like it could have been great and one of my otps#but we don't see them interacting not even as friends#and suddenly he's completely in love with her?#we know ginny was into him from the start#but we don't see any indication on harry's part until it's already shoved in our faces#it would have been much better if she actually moved on from harry but fell for him again eventually once they became friends#and show us how harry slowly sees her as a girl he's attracted to and not just as ron's sister#as well as his inner turmoil because of it#anyway#thank you for attending my ranting#harry potter#ginny weasley#hinny#anti hinny#aesthetically they're great#but i love more the “what could have been” in my head#hp rants#pro ginny weasley#to remind people i don't hate her
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By any chance do you ship Harvey and Jason?
I may be stupid obsessed with the two but I don’t, actually. 😳
BUT you do you and I’m not here to dictate what is your preferences when it comes to fictional characters! ❤️
#I’m actually… not so much of a multi shipper lol#I’m slightly more multishippy these days thanks to FedEx boys#and the whole ‘A has two hands for a reason!!!’#just because I hate dumbass ship wars#but you can obviously tell my biasedness to my actual OTPs lol
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Trying to find Amphibia fics that arent poly Anne-Sasha-Marcy (i like them but I dont ship it)
#any fic thats NOT ship related please?#thank you very much#amphibia#not anti cause i dont hate the ship but#idk#maybe i like more anne and marcy cause they are so cute#and sprig and ivy definitively otp cause so adorable and sweet and innocent#babies
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guys what do you do when you have 2 otps for a character at the same time??? love angle (tent? corner? idk triangle without the bottom part)?? Split custody??? Polyamory??
this is a legitimate question btw HELP i dont know what to do.
previously i was able to have it so both relationships could happen at different points in a timeline, but thats not an option here i want them both the be together but do it alone
#unhinged posting#this isnt meant to be polyphobic or anything btw i support poly ships#i just dont think its the best option for this one#i hate to use the term love triangle because its NOT a triangle#its a tent? corner? angle? is there a term for it???#/genq#fandom#shipping#otp#how do yall deal with having more than one otp but theyre too different to all be together at once and you cant mess with the timeline#cuz you want everyone happy at the same time
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It's the way Louis completely ignored Armand in 2x02 when Armand tried to ask him to not be that cruel to Daniel that's getting me. Armand would NEVER ignore a command from Louis(setting aside in 2x05 when Armand was only able to do so because Louis deeply insulted him and violated his trust, which shattered something inside Armand and made him lose his goddamn mind, and then as soon as Louis reassured him of their companionship, reverted back to obedience; ETA also if it hit one of his hard boundaries, but we've only seen him have one of those so far). The fact that Louis was capable of completely dismissing Armand's words says SO much about their D/s dynamic.
#interview with the vampire#iwtv#iwtv meta#loumand meta#loumand d/s meta#my meta#louis de pointe du lac#the vampire armand#armand#my little amber-eyed pumpkin#loumand#otp: I want you more than anything in the world#I'm not interested in hearing from people who don't ship Loumand#leave me and my post alone#like seriously#if you want to hate on Loumand make your own damn post#reposting this because I don't want to have to wonder if the likes I'm getting are in response to my original post or the super bad take#that got dropped in it
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moodboard: jay x leia
#that 90s show#that '90s show#otp: i missed you. leia you have no idea.#jeia#jeiaedit#jay x leia#leia x jay#jeiashippersclub#het ship#my moodboards#my stuff#i wanna make more content for them#sucks that they get all this hate
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................. not to rain down on anyone's parade but barely characterized 14 year old lucerys could never have the swag eleanor or henry had
#1#2#3#4#5#again you do you per carità i'm not here to judge anyone's taste because then i'd be a fucking hypocrite#but this still made me laugh#maybe because i never really understood the hype around luke/aemond. i mean i get it on a intellectual level#but there are so many juicier pairs in hotd that while i understand why people would ship it i'm not sure why it's so popular#no hate to the pairing or anything of course. you can ship whatever you want!#but this reeks of the usual inflated m/m ship with one (or two) fictional men with weak or barely acknowledged characterizations#while incredibly complex female characters (at least in comparison) are JUST THERE#again this is not a hate post about the ship or slash pairings (OBVIOUSLY!!)#but still. in any case the eleanor/henry dynamic fits better with rhaenicent or maybe daemyra tbh#like... even when i love a ship with all my heart i wouldn't assign *every* possible au to them but only those who fit their characters bes#if my otp is a etl ship i wouldn't want to read or write a childhood friends to lovers au because what i like about them#is that they fucking hate each other's guts and perpetually try to kill the other (before falling in love... and sometimes even after)#if a pairing is more p&p like i really couldn't get into a wuthering heights au even if i'd recognize it's magnificently written#because that's not what these characters and their dynamic are. it would be projection#at this point i would prefer to read/write about two ocs ngl#again in fandom you can do whatever you want i'm no one and i could never tell you what you can or can't like. that'd be ridiculous#and idw the op of that post to feel bad about it. it's just my personal preference/opinion on fanworks that's all#val speaks#val rambles in the tags#txt
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