#oresteia

[katerinaaqu]

To me Orestes and Pylades are the definition of the phrase;

Friends are the family we choose

Orestes was ostracized by his own mother and suffered in exile after a sad existence in his own home. He suffered also the shame of his family and its partial destruction. His blood family minus some exceptions to the story ostracized him either deliberately (such as Clytemnestra) or unintentionally (Chrysothemis who was unable to stand against the situation because of her gentle nature). Pylades was there for him and helped him. He was there both in his best and his worst. And he also shared the same pain for Pylades as well was ostracized by his own family and yet Pylades turned that into his strength when he followed Orestes. Both of them chose each other and became de facto family when their own families rejected them.

And no I am not convinced that these two were supposed to be romantically involved (at least reading the tragedies that involve them ex. Euripedes). I think it is unfair to assume that everything in ancient Greece involving two characters must be of romantic nature. Friendship and companionship were equally important forms of love for ancient Greeks and I think Orestes and Pylades are a classical example of it. Their relationship was powerful and supportive but it did not seem to hide erotic passion and I believe it is amazing notion and it shows in what lengths two people who are close can go to. In my opinion we do not need to imagine them in a romantic context to admire their closeness.

Orestes & Pylades or The San Ildefonso Group

[pelideswhore]

i support clytemnestra killing agamemnon and i also support orestes/electra killing clytemnestra. yes those things can and do coexist.

[katerinaaqu]

I find it incredibly hilarious that in Aeschylus' "Eumenides" Apollo acts as a witness to Orestes and has the most lawyer energy ever 🤣 😆 like he wants to persuade the audience that Orestes is justified and to achieve that he speaks on how a father is the real parent and not the mother and says that "a father can exist even without a mother" and then uses fucking ATHENA as an example! 🤣🤣🤣 like he says "Zeus gave birth to Athena through his head so the father is the parent"

I just can't help but finding hilarious! 🤣🤣 and I can imagine Hermes in the background snickering at that or trying not to yell "dude what the fuck?!" 🤣🤣🤣

Apollo definitely works as a lawyer here hahaha 😆 😂 🤣 confusing the audience 😂

[mothmanismymainman]

the iliad as those bird memes (sorry for weird formatting at the end)

achilles:

patroclus:

helen:

diomedes:

hector:

odysseus:

andromache:

calchas:

paris:

bonus! clytemnestra:

[petaltexturedskies]

Aiskhylos, An Oresteia (tr. by Anne Carson)

[henry-fox-biggest-stan]

No one talks about Helen being Iphigenia’s aunt.

Her niece was murdered so her husband and brother-in-law (plus their armies and others) could go “save her”. Her sister lost her daughter so her husband could get his brother’s wife back.

Her Iphigenia, with her black hair and sweet smile, who would always smile when she saw her.

Her Iphigenia, her first niece, the oldest of her sister’s children, who was some years older than her own daughter and who she thought would grow up together.

Oh the guilt the anger

[ciceroniantrash]

Anne Carson’s Kassandra speaks shitpost

[catilinas]

btw

[ditoob]

why did nobody tell me the Oresteia was so good Orestes is slowly becoming one of my faves

[cyrusughhhh]

They call him Lil P in the streets

Pyrrhus/Neoptolemus: I ran the streets since I was ten Orestes: Streets killed me!

[jondrettegirls]

Oresteia by Robert Icke | The Aeneid by Vergil (Tr. Shadi Bartsch) | It’s a Quality of the Gods by Suniti Namjoshi

[erudities]

[katerinaaqu]

Okay you are there to witness the final face-off! Who would you cheer for more? Let me know on the comments below!

Two crazy lions fighting for Hermione over the temples of Delphi; two kids that got destroyed by war or the consequences of it 🤔 let me know your thoughts!

[apollon-quotes]

"First, in this prayer of mine, I give the place of highest honor among the gods to the first prophet, Earth; and after her to Themis, for she was the second to take this oracular seat of her mother, as legend tells.

And in the third allotment, with Themis’ consent and not by force, another Titan, child of Earth, Phoebe, took her seat here. She gave it as a birthday gift to Phoebus, who has his name from Phoebe.

Leaving the lakeband ridge of Delos, he landed on Pallas’ ship-frequented shores, and came to this region and the dwelling places on Parnassus. The children of Hephaistos, road-builders taming the wildness of the untamed land, escorted him with mighty reverence.

And at his arrival, the people and Delphus, helmsman and lord of this land, made a great celebration for him. Zeus inspired his heart with prophetic skill and established him as the fourth prophet on this throne; but Loxias is the spokesman of Zeus, his father.”

- Aeschylus, Oresteia

[hermesmoly]

Children of Agamemnon and Clytemnestra as Melodrama songs:

Iphigenia - Writer in the Dark ("Did my best to exist just for you / Now she's gonna play and sing and lock you in her heart / I am my mother's child / I'll love you 'til my breathing stops / I'll love you 'til you call the cops on me”)

Electra - Liability ("All that a stranger would see / Is one girl swaying alone, stroking her cheek / They say, "You're a little much for me / You're a liability / The truth is I am a toy that people enjoy / 'Til all of the tricks don't work anymore, and then they are bored of me")

Orestes - Sober II ("You asked if I was feeling it, I'm psycho high / Know you won't remember in the morning when I speak my mind / And the terror and the horror / God, I wonder why we bother / All the glamour and the trauma / and the fucking melodrama")

Chrysothemis - Hard Feelings/Loveless (“Please, could you be tender? And I will sit close to you / I care for myself the way I used to care about you / 'Til I don't need fantasy, 'til I feel you leave / Bet you wanna rip my heart out / Well, guess what? I'd like that.")

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Pylades - The Lourve ("I am your sweetheart psychopathic crush / Drink up your movements, still I can't get enough / Blow all my friendships / To sit in hell with you / Okay I know that you are not my type (still I fall) / I'm just the sucker who let you fill her mind")

[garland-on-thy-brow]

[Agamemnon trans. Anne Carson | Julius Caesar.]

Everything can be about Cassius if you are me.