#op has never read homestuck

[bbloveseevees]

I still can’t believe they put a Homestuck reference in Wandersong

[r0semultiverse]

I’m so serious when I say that I hope that The Umbrella Academy comics have a more satisfactory ending & don’t have as much character assassination. ☂

[vellichorom]

If Thierry was a homestuck troll what blood color would he be? Rosemary also feels like a possible lowblood companion, maybe even a highblood companion

ok so ACTUAL homestuck fans feel free to correct me, I did less than a minute of research on this just to sound the least bit confident in what I'm about to say, HOWEVER...

thierry's technically on the more... average side of things, both in regards to his own universe ( for being an omnipresent liminal-space sourced entity (( & a The Narrator )) ), as well as outside of it in any other given universe. at the end of the day, he really turns out to be kind of just. some guy with mod privileges,

so I feel like he'd be a Yellowblood ( funnily enough ) if not within the range of yellow / lime / olive: fairly mundane, nothing particularly special really, but not scraping the bottom of the barrel in terms of the fucked up troll society.

& WHILE I'm at it, he would be the most annoying troll alive because he sees the irony to his existence & COMMITS.

now, while I can't speak on behalf of @tomiechu, I'd love to think rosemary is a higher blood type to him if she's not outright human, maybe something in the cooler spectrum of colors? hmm...

[beescake]

i am in love with your sollux i think

sollux love party :]

if you’re interested heres some of my personal fondness thoughts on him.. big warning for the mega long read ahead aye

as we alr know sollux's rejection of participation somewhat mirrors dave's rejection of heroism, but even without getting cooked to completion i still find sollux's character v compelling beyond the fourth wall

as someone who doesnt get a pinch of that Protagonist Sparkle to begin with, he can openly say he wants to leave anytime…. and unlike dave, he actually Can leave the scene anytime. but he can never be truly Free from the story via permanent character death like the other trolls.

his irrelevancy is indeed relevant - he’s there so u can point him out.

while his image is intended to be a relic of past internet subculture, his role is not only about hehehaha being a Chad or a 2000s cyberforum 2²chan haxxor ragequit gamebro.

his continued existence also happens to add a Bit to the overarching themes of homestuck! a Bit that gives him longer-lasting thematic relevance compared to the trolls who could’ve had more character potential but didnt get to survive beyond the main story.

the Bit in question:

his defiance contributes to the illusion of agency (treating characters = people with autonomy). he’s “aware” of it, and that recognition is worth noting enough to forcibly keep him alive as both reward and punishment.

considering how his personality & classpect is designed its definitely a very haha thing for hussie to do LOL. he’s made to be op asf so he's resigned to doing dirty work, gradually deteriorating along the way but never truly dying. as fans have mentioned before, him openly rejecting involvement after a while of grim tolerance is like if the sim u were controlling suddenly stopped, looked up and gave u the finger while u were step six into the walkthrough for Every Possible Sim Death Animation.

but since he’s just a sim… the more he hates it, the more you keep him around. if ur sim started complaining abt your whimsical household storyline you’d definitely keep that little fuck.

but yeah i like that sollux is just idling. the significance of his presence being that one dude who's always reliably Somewhere, root core Unchanged, no individual ambitions (possibly due to fear of consequence?), and design-wise: a staple representative product of his time.

compared to dirk's character, who has aged phenomenally well into the present (themes of control + AR + artificial intelligence, clearer exploration around navigating relationships/sexuality, infinite possibilities of self-splinterhood and trait inheritance), sollux's potential is really... contained. bitter. defeatist. limiting and frustrating in the way old tech is.

the world continues moving on to shinier, brighter, more advanced automated things - minimalist and metaverse or whatever but sollux is still here 🧍‍♂️ going woohoo redblue 3d. (tho personally i imagine his vibe similar to what the kids call cassette futurism on pinterest mixed w more grimy grunge insectoid influences eheh)

conceptually-speaking,

at the foundation of it all, the rapid pace of modern development was built off the understanding of ppl like sollux in the past, who were There actively at work while the dough was still beginning to rise

thats one of the cool things abt the idea of trolls preceding humans! the idea that trolls like sollux excelled back when lots of basic shit still needed to be discovered, building structures like networks and codes from scratch, and humans will eventually inherit and reinvent that knowledge in ways that become so optimized it makes the old manual effort seem archaic, slow, and labour-intensive.

but despite information/resources/shortcuts being more accessible now, much of the new highly-anticipated stuff released on trend still end up unfinished, inefficient, or expiring quickly due to cutting corners under severe capitalistic pressures

meanwhile, some of the old stuff frm past generations of thorough, exploratory and perfectionistic development still remains working, complete, and ever so sturdy.

those things continue to exist, just outside our periphery with either:

zero purpose left for modern needs (outdated/obsolete)

or

far too important to replace or destroy, bcs of its surprisingly essential and circumstantial usefulness in one niche specific area.

which are honestly? both points that sum up sollux pree well.

dramatic ending sorry. anw are u still on the fence or are u Sick abt him like me </3

[alienssstufff]

have you ever read this classpect analysis https://archiveofourown.org/series/1960270

it's not really in conversation with wider class analysis but it has some neat ideas and drops the passive/active binary which is +++++++

[ CONTEXT ]

I started reading through the aspect one this morning. I laughed a lil at this part its like those self-help books

to disclaim im never the expert at classpecting (not smart enough for that) a lot of my knowledge comes from others to form a solid agree-disagree reaction to this. However i did find it really helpful with the diagrams and op makes it so much easier to understand aspects (then classes) by grouping them up like this

like i like especially with the categories, they explain the practical (in homestuck terms) use of the aspect in a session which im grateful for cuz a lot of the explanations kinda just... expects you to know these things

Anyway good collection if u really want to get into classpecting. would recommend so far

[shiveringgroovy]

coming off anon to feed you more headcanon asks

you answered an ask about social medias but heres for the real good stuff

fandom headcanons? who watches what, who reads, who is blissfully unaware of the community they're surrounded by, etc

jesus christ i'm going insane for this one. started this in april uhm hi chat i'm alive again (october)

ATSUSHI

doesn't participate in fandom spaces tbh

but he's into some old-school games

don't ask me why i think this but he's an emulator guy

DAZAI

HOMESTUCK. HE WAS IN THE HOMESTUCK FANDOM NO I DO NOT TAKE CRITIQUE

crazy into it too. keyboard warrior about it. ranpo was there

bless his heart

YOSANO

cult classic films !!

really into the craft, kill bill, maybe the scream franchise ? also perchance saw but not after the third movie

doesn't participate in online fandom spaces because she has better media literacy than everyone else

RANPO

homestuck and hetalia

need i say more

KYOUKA

saw because yosano got her into it. (her favorite is saw 3 because yuri)

and sanrio. ik it's a common headcanon but i think it fits !!!

loves a lot horror films/franchises but saw, the exorcist, and alien are her favs

also i think she likes cheesy shoujo romance anime!!!

HIGUCHI

you can't tell me she's not a himefujoshi on ao3 and tumblr

into tons of animes and shows

writes insane comments on ao3 too. many an author has questioned her sanity

has gotten into proship discourse before

she also like vocaloid, her favorite is megurine luka and has visceral reactions when you call teto a vocaloid

CHUUYA

be fr he would not give a shit about fandoms

dazai tried to get him into some of the stuff he liked as a teen but it never worked

he watched breaking bad though i guess

GIN

they loveee the scream franchise

has a ghostface mask they post pictures with from time to time

does not play at ALL about stu/billy

TACHIHARA

also into scream

really likes video games as well!! legend of zelda and the elder scrolls WHOA WHO SAID THAT

LOUISA

she's a fujoshi. draws yaoi on her plans

only really into fluffy stuff

tumblr girlie for SURE. hides her account like drugs even though it's just fluffy bl manga and art

NIKOLAI

he's a horror fiend and lurks online for content because duh

watches heavy gore/body horror films like it's instagram reels

i think he tries to keep his digital footprint clean for obvious reasons but if he sees a take so bad he'll tell op to die brutally

he's totally that guy to say "this is MILDDD" to the people he's watching american psycho with. he's an ass about his preferences sorry

SIGMA

they have better things to do ???

TERUKO

idk how to explain it but she's really into nana, tomie, uzumaki, and other darker/grittier manga/anime

and yuri/gl. she doesn't play about her toxic screwed up yuri

she seems like a whump fan. fucking up that dead dove with her hunting dog teeth

[thirtheenprimes]

It is genuinely fascinating the difference in experience reading The Locked Tomb is between people who read Homestuck and who haven't. I've read lots of amazing and interesting posts about the series, analyzing or hypothesising or making shit posts. But it is so frequently apparent if OP has read Homestuck and/or is aware that Taz is a Homestuck fan.

My experience reading Gideon, Harrow, and Nona the Ninth as someone who absolutely loves HS, who got to experience the fandom from the giga-pause to completion, who read the epilogues once and didn't care about them enough to engage in discourse over them and never read the HS^2, is noticeably different from the experience of those who have clearly never read Homestuck and/or intentionally avoided it entirely. There are things in the series (specifically HtN and NtN) that I immediately understood that non-HS readers are not, that they are speculating about and get to experience more of a reveal about as the books go on.

I have read so many interesting posts with perspectives I'd never considered because I am familiar with paradox space and dream bubbles and the intricate and nontraditional relationships that are common place and explicitly given words to in Homestuck but are handled with more nuance in TLT.

Genuinely, I knew what was happening with the second person perspective in HTN immediately because I read about the nature of narration in HS, whether from WV or Hussie. So I sort of skipped the whole phase of speculation on the implications of Harrow narrarating to herself and all that. And the Bubble in the River is so much like Dream Bubbles that it made so much sense to me immediately, but the experience of figuring it out that I see others having looks like so much fun.

[knowlessman]

beggo no heggo acabamia (bnha) s2e1-3

I know he technically isn't going "ho ho ho" but I still swear all might sounds like santa clause when he does the laugh -- I thought I skipped the recap episode

random pull/shoutout: I love Shady Cicada but these intros remind me of his "how to do an anime intro" videos (affectionately meh, if that makes any sense)

…hm. 100% thought we were watching one of the villains read a stolen letter but I guess not; the establishing shot (?) of, I think, the bar from the last episode confused me

ohey mccrassidy's here again -- I guess it is good that we have a prominent quirkless character in the detective here (unless he turns out to be Rampo in disguise) -- "a man-child that oppressed-feeling villainous people listen to" …something something trump

bird man has teeth. fancy that

"we're already seated" iida what did I tell you about spongebobbing it 'XD

"hello, this is my other pokemon cosplay, dusclops"

…I never went to high school, is "homeroom" usually just one announcement long?

-- also I think I can see how this's gonna be a good arc 'XD

uraraka have you been watching kill la kill

-- …speaking of kill la kill. is uraraka just whatserface. best sidekick. mako mankanshoku, that's her name. …googles to see if they have the same VA; they don't

yup. he put too many chips in, only got some back. (I did learn how to play poker once; didn't retain a thing)

no pressure, huh. anyway next one

"those who are always aiming for the top, and those who aren't." beh. ambition.

"that's kacchan in neutral" alright.

-- "move, fives. a ten wants out."

idk why this blue hair guy is giving me homestuck troll vibes but he is and I wanna like him

DAGOBA BEACH. IS THAT A COINCIDENCE.

I still wanna know how invisible girl beat deku in the fitness test. deku was training to beat saitama, was she training for goku???

what is Korg's ability? I don't think we know anything much about him.

(kyoka is fucking around with darts) holy fuck did kyoka wander in out of naruto? o_o

lol whotf is that with no shirt and the pikachu helmet

wait you're giving vegeta the mic? wtf for, do you guys not share notes or something

(random-minigame-looking thingy is on the screen) is this fucking mario party. wait what am I saying, obviously it's gonna be fall guys.

-- correction: mario kart? …uh, on foot? idfk

…this fucker is like if zuko was saitama but also carrot but also cooler than any other character I can think of. just like matter-of-factly hypercompetent with no humility but with dignity but on his own side. like "yes I'm OP and I hate it but differently than saitama." I know, like, SOME spoilers about his general deal but like… damn.

-- …is he sasuke if sasuke didn't just come across as an edgy idiot?

dang, next?

okay quiet can just make a mortar bc why not

I was wondering if they had gadgeteers.

ohey it's gamzee again. I knew those eyes and that hair were making me think of someone in particular. we about to see some motherfucking miracles?

(deku's gambit) WHAT? 'XD

-- (deku's gambit part 2) WHAT

vegeta's not gonna like that

get a chapstick, you weirdo

cavalry whut

-- …??? so, it's not like a three-legged race but carrying somebody then. wtf is a cavalry battle

oh goddammit, "cavalry battle finale" isn't til the episode after next. gonna cut it here, then.

[the-daily-dee]

Beware Of Stairs

[theakikas]

I hate this. I hate this. I promised I myself I would never read Homestuck but op you tempt me.

OP I get it. The kissing thing. It. It makes sense. But wtf. Wtf. I promised myself I would never read the zodiac sign poker world domination ARG puzzle hell fanfiction doomspire. But. But it has akikasa. I am contemplative.

Also I did know about the car cat person. Is he why people call cats cars or is that just me? But. John? John? Seriously? Goofy assname call that ship Karn. Cat yarn. Cuter than Johnkat. That sounds like an innuendo for something sex related.

Ur pfp looks like midoriya inko though i love that.

KISMESIS KISMESIS KISMESIS KISMESIS

Idk what this is but. Akikasa so ture.

Akikasa day 26. KISMESIS kissers

Apparently this is a homestuck reference. How dare you? /j

[prospitanddynami]

ive been stewing in my opinions on this for a while i will allow myself one (1) complaining post

[ID: 6 images, edited as if it were a presentation. the first is a crude drawing of a person in front of the title "PLEASE BE NORMAL ABOUT PEIXES AND MAKARA". the second image is a list with the text "I'm gonna start by laying down a few things so we are all on the same page. I'm not white (i am atleast partically black. no you don't get any more than that), i don't think everyone doing this has bad intentions, if you recognise any of this i plead with you to not attack op for anything, if you're gonna be weird about this i will probably block you. die about it i guess". in the corner is a person with both arms crossed and finger pointing up. the third is a collection of pale skin tones with the text "skintones i have seen them drawn with, + darker skin tones seen in the same post if any". the fourth has text that reads "if you draw meenah in a croptop im fucking stealing something out of your house!!! she is never depicted in a croptop in canon but everyone draws her in one because shes black and thus open to white people sexualizing her. white people stop drawing meenah in exposing clothing. please. this goes doubly for feferi because she is a Middle Schooler you guys are so weird." underneath is a set of 7 images showing cropped art of meenah wearing croptops/revealing shirts. there is a disclaimer that says "technically she's in a croptop in a ministrife sprite, but its on screen for such an insignifigant amount of time there's no plausible deniability really. just adding this before annoying people try to point this out. draw her in a vest then.". in the fifth image the text reads "please holy shit please please please be normal about homestuck. gamzee is not a weed smoking jamaican, feferi is not the "better" black person with lighter skin than meenah, kurloz isn't a spooky voodoo man, meenah is not a #slay barbie fanatic. you're just weird". next to it is a drawing of a person with a clearly strained neutral face, behind it is an image of someone eating something violently. the sixth image shows 3 drawings, two of meenah and one of gamzee, with heavy boack stereotyping. the text reads "also don't do this. holy shit." next to it is a drawing of a person crying and frothing blood. /end IDs]

[autisticsupervillain]

Honestly, it really irks me whenever anyone claims a character can "Solo Fiction".

Because how the hell would you know that? Have you read every story ever written? Seen every show ever made? Obtained such a high understanding of physics and math that you can calculate the exact limits of every single character ever created? No.

Every character has limits and every OP hax you can think of has some method around it, even if that method doesn't exist inside the character's original universe.

"This guy's unbeatable in his franchise!" Unbeatable is relative. Spider-man would come across as pretty damn invincible if you dropped him in the middle of Five Nights at Freddy's. Even on the cosmic level, if you're considered omnipotent because you can destroy the universe, that's not gonna mean a whole lot if you're being put up against multiverse busters. Feats still matter, that's why silly characters can sometimes beat serious ones, or why kids show characters can beat grim gritty anti-heroes.

"This guy's unbeatable! He beat Gods! He beat THE god!" Okay, that's still relative. Beating a god isn't really a feat in itself, because the depictions of such beings vary wildly. It'd come across as pretty God-like to most people if you destroyed an island, but that'd get you laughed out of any divine competition in Dragon Ball. Furthermore, are these gods abstract beings whom you'd need to alter the fabric of reality to be able to hurt? Are they incomprehensible eldritch beings who break the laws of physics just by existing or are they basically just humans with fancy powers? Even depictions of thee capital G God aren't excused from this.

"This characters a gag character! He runs on toon force, the whole joke is he never loses!" Yeah, Bugs Bunny's been beating that drum for decades, dude. Not only does Toon Force actually have counters to it in fiction (The Dip from Who Framed Roger Rabbit is designed specifically to counter it, for example. Plus, some characters are explicitly stated to be immune to it, like Beerus from Dragon Ball Super), it too is relative. Sure, Popeye's toon force let him survive the universe literally getting turned off, but that's no reason to assume it would work against multiverse busters.

"This guy's hax are absolutely ridiculous! He can warp reality and rewrite the plot! He can adapt to anything you throw at him and will people to die!" No. Hax has limits. All hax has limits. Yes, even plot manipulation. Yes, even 4th wall breaking. And yes, even reality warping. Your character adapts to everything that's thrown at them? SCP 682 probably does it better and even he's been killed before. Your character regenerates from cells? Beast Cole regenerates from atoms and there are things, even in his own universe, that can kill him.

Let me contextualize it this way. You know the Archie version of Sonic? The overpowered one? He's probably near the top of your strongest characters in fiction list if you've heard of him. The one who can move so fast he beats his own shadow? The one who always wins because he's the literal embodiment of Chaos whom fate always inevitably serves? Yeah, that one.

Lord English from Homestuck has that exact same power, with the added scruple of the plot itself serving him. Insignificant events outside of Lord English's own multiverse, even ones that occured before Lord English himself even existed will somehow serve to aid him. Even retroactively. Whatever strings that fate, probability, and the plot itself have to pull to make things go his way will be pulled, anywhere in Paradox Space, at any time.

And John Egbert kicked his big green ass anyways.

So, no, your favorite character does not solo fiction. No character does. And even if such a character did exist, it would be impossible for you to prove that because you have not read every single work of fiction ever written.

[detritivoresquad]

Regarding the last two posts: look, I do think that can be an issue, and I'm even guilty of it sometimes (I have a hard time getting into some of the Tales series women). However, it's not as universal as I feel the OP made it out to be, so I take issue with reblogging it uncritically. My hackles get raised by that kind of stuff because it's usually the sort of thing said right before acting like people who exclusively write m/m are some kind of Problem. There are plenty of reasons why people prefer to write men and most of them are not internalized misogyny. I also see people who have fun with f/f and m/f, and they never seem to get attention from the people who claim to want more content with women. I also know of lots of fandoms where the inverse is true- where men are kind of ignored and seen as one-note and the female characters are celebrated.

WWDIS has a lot more male characters than female but I see a lot of people who are almost exclusively interested in the one woman in the main cast! MHA/BnHA is a big shonen (reminder: anime for YOUNG BOYS) where I see the fandom expanding on the female & nb characters even when their main focus is on a m/m ship! Steven Universe has a mostly nonbinary cast that had analysis coming out for almost every character while it was airing! Undertale and Deltarune have popular male, female, and nonbinary characters which the fandom loves to expand on! The Homestuck fandom loves their female characters; I'm pretty sure Vriska has more analysis and reading into her than anyone else in the series.

And frankly, if you want woman-centric content, then look at stuff designed with that audience in mind. MLP:FiM (and most iterations of MLP tbh) was pretty infamous for not having many male characters get fleshed out. Shoujo classics like Sailor Moon and Revolutionary Girl Utena have very few interesting male characters and their fandoms obviously tend to focus on the gals.

Of course, I can only talk about what I'm familiar with, thus my named fandoms being kind of all over the place. Maybe the Twilight fandom (which is what that post was actually about) is misogynistic. I've never been in the Twilight fandom. But it's not a universal problem, it is getting better, and you're never going to get what you want by shaming people. The only way to get more good analysis and writing of female characters is to do it yourself. I've literally seen this happen in real time in multiple fandoms. Complaining about what isn't there does nothing, but making the content you want to see generally leads to others making similar content.

[antiloreolympus]

10 Anti LO Asks

1. it is good to make complex characters but rachel literally spend YEARS drilling into her readers' heads hxp are the most perfect and good people ever who always do right and everyone else is wrong so her now trying (and failing) to make them now "complex" completely fails because her  readers who have no critical media consumption skills are still just going to see them as right and get pissy when theres even a little bit of complexity there. Its too little, too late at this point.

2. 184, HXP talking to Helios like they just got caught in a scandal, kinda left on a cliff hanger

185, Helios is gone and Persephone is FINALLY admitting Hades likes her back even tho they’ve made out, shared a house, met the family, talked about her being queen, etc etc. 185 is everything we already knew. 

3. i should also point out printing out a webcomic doesnt actually make it a "graphic novel" that can then be discussed in english classes. thats why we dont study the printed homestuck books either. it just means its printed. also actual english classes would more likely rip LO apart not just for its greek myth butchering, but its piss poor witting as well. I think OP thinks it would be praised, but there's a reason not even actual critics mention its writing quality, bc its just not there.

5. I think the reason why a lot of people like Minthe is because Hades and Minthe relationship was so Out of character for both parties

Hades is known to be sorta a dick, a king who has too much power, controls everything and takes no bs. So he meets Minthe, she doesn’t laugh at him when his brother makes a “joke” and then she charges at him for the hat, says he’s not the asshole but needs the hat back. He hires her and later blurs their relationship. He’s the one who wanted Minthe as a gf but hades never states why. We analyze he’s got a type, young woman going through some shit (examples Hera and Persephone)

Minthe. When we first meet her, she tells hades she doesn’t want to be seen with him, later we learn it’s cause he’s planning on proposing to her in public at a party when they both agreed their relationship is casual. She does try to reach out to hades the next day but he won’t pick up. Hades is doing something shady (hanging out with a 19 year old) so clearly she gets more pissed. (I know it’s stated they have an open relationship but still shouldn’t be too pick to hangout with a 19 year old after a mini fight)However we learn more about Minthe character. She doesn’t want to be queen because she’s insecure and doesn’t feel qualified, hades in laws (who he’s had an affair with) doesn’t like her and his brother doesn’t remember her name but knew he was gonna propose. However Minthe does make an effort to be better after everything is said and done, she breaks it off with Thanatos even though we assume hades doesn’t know about that (kinda big for a character to show who they are when only one person is watching or no one). Minthe actually tries to stop Thetis from a lot of drama with Zeus and Hera despite Hera hating Minthe. Minthe even stands up to Thetis even though she doesn’t have much to gain (she lost hades and Thetis after that fight)

Which is why I find it so out of character for Minthe to go in on the AOW because I figured she’d be like “I want nothing more to do with Persephone” but RS back tracked

I also found the slap to be a little Out of character for both parties. I don’t know why hades has any fear of Minthe when he control everything and ripped some kids eye out and I still can’t really find why Minthe would slap him even though I’ve read the scene a million times (but again it’s hard to understand abuse in the first place)

Which is why I find Minthe more likeable than the other villians because you can take out the slap and you still have Minthe’s character, she still has defining moments, while Apollo has only really the (redacted) and Leto is just a classic cartoon villain trying to marry her son off to the damsel in distress.

6. LO literally has spelling, grammar, and story issues all in the first three episodes, any half way decent english teacher would rip it to shreds just off that alone if a student of theirs tried to make them dissect it, and thats before itd get into how badly it "retells" mythology (for the record I think TSOA and PJO would also be ripped apart too under a literature critical lens, but both are miles ahead better stories and actually written properly as opposed to how egregiously subpar LO is).

7. Ok but there is a good argument to be made that modern english lit curriculums SHOUD be updated, but that's via more diverse writers such as BIPOC and queer writers (especially if they're female), and to update translated works like the greek myths to be from more contemporary translators like anne carson, not poorly written YA books by horny white women and webcomics that wouldnt even pass a basic intro to writing class. this is why we don't let 15 year olds run the world, sorry to say.

8. does hades even go to therapy like all hes done is insult his therapist and say its waste of money and the comic even implies hes "getting better" bc of persephone but then?? why have persephone go?? especially when she only went because she didnt want to feel "inadequate" to hera (holy shit fuck off rachel for that), to infodump stuff we never saw, cry, and then just?? drop the whole thing?? like she went to ONE session to meet a single quota and the dropped it. the whole thing is just so bad.

-----FP Spoilers/Mention-----

9. FP spoilers, EP  188: I cannot tell you how tired I am of RS spending weeks upon weeks with filler, only to then drop a cliffhanger on the readers at the last second. This one in particular is just... so bad. It's a blatant attempt to inflate tension. You can just hear RS  patting herself on the back behind the scenes, going 'ooh, who could the new mystery-character who just got dropped into the story with no foreshadowing or set-up whatsoever beee~?'  Answer: I don't know, I don't care, can we please just wrap up this goddamn trial already? It's been literal fucking MONTHS??? RS is just doing everything in her power to stall plot-points in favor of meaningless fluff.

10. Do you think RS is actually reading what antis write here? In one chapter she suddenly added a new normal looking court, Perse has a dream (really weird one considering her situation), we have a cute scene between mother and daughter out of nowhere, plot moves etc. Suddenly we are getting everything we complain about here the most. Still looks like half-assed attempt to fix everything that went bad through years in one go tho.

From OP: Probably not. She does talk to her editor and her peers for their thoughts so their thoughts could potentially align with ours. Either that or RS decided to make this new things happen on her own.

[calicorn]

My experience with WeLoveFine/ForFansByFans as an artist.

This in regards to the Act 6/7 Tarot Project, which occurred from 2017 to 2018. I also want to thank @aryll for the chance to participate in such a project, and thank you for doing what you could with the group and what occurred. I realize this is a few years late, however, but it’s been bothering me ever since it occurred, and I only chose to speak my mind about it. But to summarize, the project started out as unofficial, however we were approached by FFBF in February of 2018. They were willing to sell the deck as official merchandise on their store. I have my own opinions on the company, as it’s known they underpay artists severely for their work despite selling most items for extremely high prices. A similar payment issue occurred with the Official Homestuck Zine, and one of the artists of the Tarot Project posted this in the comments:     “Can relate OP. I did work for the new tarot deck (using my throwaway account for that reason lol) but we aren’t being paid at all. No money. The only compensation we are getting is a free deck and an exclusive enamel pin which is pennies compared to what they’ll be making off us. One might argue that the project wasn’t supposed to be printed so I should be grateful it’s even happening but I expected a big company like WLF to y’know, pay artists... The only reason I agreed to letting them use my art was to get a free deck. I also honestly dislike WLF’s artist compensation policy. My art has been selected from the Fan Forge before and the idea of being able to sell my HS art was so appealing, but the execution is so poor. They don’t pay us until we sell $100 worth of shirts, but that is so difficult in a market that is so oversaturated. I wish they like, cycled designs in and out. Instead, they just keep adding more and more designs, drowning out old ones and just flooding the entire market. Plus, they get to withhold money from artists until every hundred-dollar mark. I can’t imagine how much they’ve made off of small time artists that get their design accepted and sell maybe 3 shirts since it happens so often.” So. What exactly happened? I’ll explain under the cut given there’s a decent amount to go through. Though to summarize; WeLoveFine/ForFansByFans is an extremely egregious company that does not value their artists whatsoever and will do what they can to pay them as little as possible. Please support said artists on sites that actually do give them fair pay, or support them via commissions.

There were a few bumps during the tarot project, though overall it went extremely smoothly and we released our art to the Tumblr blog. FFBF approached us during this time, and we were all given the option to agree to continue working or the project or decline. However, this is what was an important piece to the initial email sent out by the Tarot Project team;      • Each participating artist will get a full finalized copy of the deck, COMPLETELY free. This includes packaging and free shipping of the deck.      • Each participating artist will get an enamel pin commemorating the project, EXCLUSIVE to the artists of this project only, with a custom design as chosen/designed by us. What will most likely occur is that everyone who wishes to submit a design for the pin can do so, and as a group, we will vote on which one we would like to submit as our final design choice!     • Each participating artist will receive FULL COMMISSION on any further usage of their artwork by What Pumpkin or For Fans By Fans. For example, if they release a mini-print, wallet, etc. with your design on it, you will be paid in commission for the usage of your work. (If you have ANY questions about how this would work, please don’t hesitate to ask and I will hook you up ASAP with a For fans By Fans representative who can go over the details with you further.)     • Each participating artist will have a window in which they will be able to make updates or revisions to their illustration(s) before the project is released. This means that if something is bugging you about your work, or you feel that it does not reflect your current level of skill, you will be allowed to resubmit a new version before the project officially goes up as merchandise! So, the majority of us agreed to continue forward with the project and retouch our cards. From there, things continued, and we were emailed by a FFBF representative on occasion to discuss how the process went, as well as various other things that required discussion, plus asked to assist in the promotion of the 4/13/18 celebration on their website. This is where the issues began and would continue through the entire project, with it still being seen post-release of the cards. We were sent an email in April of 2018 requiring information to be provided in the  accompanying booklet of the deck, as well as being asked to answer various interview questions that would be posted to FFBF’s Tumblr, and most importantly; the Commission Agreement form. So what did it entail? This was the form I was sent. My interview was never posted. I have looked multiple times and never seen evidence it ever was, either. And this was also included in the email;    • We are going to be hosting a pre-order bonus promotion surrounding the new tarot set, starting 413. Anyone who pre-orders the set will be entered into a drawing to win a commissioned art piece from a random artist who worked on the tarot. You will be paid by us, FFBF, for this commission work in the amount of $50.  So we had to draw more art with a very close deadline date to obtain a payment  for art we had already created, both of which should have easily been worth more than $50 total. I signed without thinking, which looking back on, was incredibly idiotic, despite my own worries over the fact that even at the time, $50 did not seem like a lot. Progress continued. An exclusive pin was designed and created for the artists, though the production and delivery dates would be delayed to September of 2018. During this time, we were also invited to join FFBF’s Discord server as well, which I am still in, though am not active in. And eventually, we were provided a Commission Schedule. I do not know if I’m missing an email between the enamel pin shipment and this schedule post, however I cannot find any trace of it. This is the Commission Schedule email, and what it consists of. Of course I found it strange, because looking at the schedule, I could never find any sign of myself having been added. Obviously I should have replied then and there due to that, but I didn’t, and that is my own fault. But that rolled into October of 2018, when I did finally email back and asked about why I hadn’t been added. I was sent back this; “Hi Calicorn! I’m sorry I misinterpreted your response as not wanting to proceed:“3)  I am completely willing to sign up for being one of the artists for the commission raffle event, though I must say $50 would be underpaying considering most artists’ base prices for commissions tend to be $50 or more.” Then I sent “If you do not want to be part of the give-away, that’s totally ok. We are offering $50 for these commissions but if that price is not within your comfort, there’s no pressure!” You never came back with anything so I didn’t want to proceed since it seemed like you were uncomfortable with the amount we were offering – I’m really sorry if I misunderstood! The giveaway is actually over I’m sorry to say but I appreciate you following up about this. I wonder why the message went into spam.. Please let me know if there is anything else I can do for you Thanks!” And one of the most glaring issues popped up in October as well. When we finally received our decks in the mail, our project’s Discord group began to discuss the fact that our emails had been printed in the pamphlet without our permission. Mind you, this was also a project that included minors in it, and our emails had now been given away without our knowledge. Another issue with the pamphlets is the fact that FFBF had reused the same text from the Homestuck Kickstarter Tarot Deck, as seen on the New Booklet/Old Booklet, and here/here. FFBF then decided to remove the booklet from every outgoing tarot that gets ordered, with customers receiving a corrected digital PDF that was coordinated in its creation by Aryll. And apparently previous customers would receive this PDF via emails, as well as a link to download it on the product page. Thankfully FFBF seemed to have at least posted the PDF on the product page, however this seems extremely lazy compared to simply including the newly reprinted booklet. Though this may not be the last of issues, as I stumbled across the Amazon product page for our tarot deck earlier before typing this all up. To say the least, it is extremely infuriating, especially given the quality of the cards and how many people of complained about them on both Amazon and FFBF’s websites. Of course we, the artists, were never alerted to this development, nor were we paid for such.

But overall, we were hardly paid for our time and effort during this project, which is a massive disappointment, but perhaps that much should have been expected from WeloveFine/ForFansByFans, who are notorious for underpaying artists and overpricing products. Their actions are inexcusable, and I am still both disappointed and furious with this company as a whole. But thank you for reading, and please spread the word, as I do not want FFBF’s actions to go unnoticed.

[roaming-axe-aaa]

Some AMAZING OCs

((Some amazing OCs y’all should check out. Give them some love! I may not have listed ALL the OCs I wanted, because either; Tumblr didn’t show you in my followers list, or you were inactive for a while. So I’m sorry if you weren’t on this list and you thought you should be. ;;

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@quirkidol- A nice mun and a really thought out OC, she has an interesting story and I just LOVE Kayla to bits. She’s an idol which is interesting, but I also love the fact she’s more complicated than you think. One of my favorite ships, seriously check them out.

@bleachedoracle- I love Wes, I know a lot about Bleach and I love seeing their interactions with other bleach muses. But I also am really digging the BNHA AU, and seeing how loyal Wes is already. Westley is well thought out and has an interesting power. I really like that it’s sort of an OP power but Wes is not OP (if that makes sense?) I just.. love Wes, please check them out!

@sevensav--d | @husk-d | @liberat-d- Some REALLY rad OCs, seriously they’re all so creative and thought out well. I really love seeing them all on my dash. I’ve never talked to the mun, but I bet they’re sweet and nice. I want to RP with more of their OCs, but alas, I am shy. But seriously, check out all Bone’s blogs, def worth a follow.

@yoxngmadnxss- Really neat OC who I’ve seen change throughout the years. I really like this OC and I have a soft spot for her. The mun is super friendly. They’re not super active, but still seriously worth checking out. <3

@muse-arcadia- A dear friend of mine, I don’t know much about their OCs canon lore and stuff, but from what we talk about, their OCs are REALLY thought out well, and they can fit into other verses. The mun is a total sweetie and friendly. And their OCs are super creative and thought out. I love hearing about all their OCs cuz they’re all so unique.

@silent-celeste-  They don’t have an about page yet, but I still really enjoy their OC. They’re not super powerful and I like that? It’s a nice change to RP with someone who has a quirkless OC. And I love learning about their OC through RPs. Mun is really friendly and nice too!

@heroific- Some awesome OCs on  this blog, all of them are awesome. And I absolutely LOVE their art. Seriously check them out, you won’t be disappointed.

@sncils- I love Layla and all the OCs on this blog, and heck even their canon. Snail is really super friendly and fun to talk to, great sense of humor. And their OCs are just -chefs kiss.- I love them to death. Someone you should seriously consider on checking out.

@lunadianetha- Super cute OC with super cute art. I really enjoy our threads and the mun is really nice to talk to. Their blog isn’t all fancy and stuff, but it’s worth to check them out and give them a chance!

@blackstardiopside- I’ve been mutuals with Nemo for fucking years. If you dig Steven Universe, I HIGHLY recommend her blog. Black Star is by far one of my favorite gems that I wish was canon. Really well thought out and I love her to bits. Really nice and chill mun. Seriously, give her some love and check out her blog. You won’t regret.

@serpentine-rogue- Don’t have to be a homestuck fan to interact with Moose (I know I’m not.) But they have some other verses for Soldan and Soldan is super fun to interact with. She’s such a sweetie and our RPs are usually just chill slice of life RPs, it’s really nice and is a nice change. Check them out!

@traitorousscales- I don’t know much about Teppet’s world and everything, but I would die for Teppet. Seriously such an amazing character. And what I have seen of lore and stuff, it’s really well thought out. It’s tough to make lore of a character and they pulled it off well. Seriously deserves to be checked out!

@badxsshottiexllie | @cartoonyvillainisms- Someone I’ve been on and off mutuals with for... years. It’s funny because we discovered each other recently. ANYWAYS, some rad OCs I would give some time to check out. They have different verses, not just BNHA. Check them out!

@thelittlestdemon- And the rest of your blogs but I forgot what their urls are. ;; Gomen. But I really enjoy our threads and your OCs are creative and I love them. I haven’t read all of your web comic where they come from (I believe?) but I have seen snippets and it’s awesome! Your art is really cute. Seriously please check them out, they have some other verses like a BNHA verse and they’re really fun to interact with!

@sub-zer0-ice- An awesome OC who has neat story. She is a Todoroki OC but one that fits in well. I really enjoy our RPs and their OC is well thought out! I would give them a check out.