#obey me nightmare gacha

[grandesteartherquakedreamer]

I made my final role for the current Nightmare event in Nightbringer. It started with Belphie and ended with Barbatos.

That’s it that’s the post

[squeakyducky]

OH—😳😳

I FINALLY GOT THE PICTURE GUYS

[xifhera]

| Part 1 | The older brothers

Look I’m sorry but these guys are a little silly sometimes

Let me know if you want the side characters done:)

[cnl0400]

This Is a theory of what I think will happen with the original OBM.

First, I want to clarify that this Is just a theory, and you should take precautions according to what you think Is right. I think everyone should start archiving what they consider important just in case. Companies are not your friends and If Solmare thinks keeping OG/NB Is more expensive than it's worth It, they will shut It down without the input of their users

I don't think they will do an EOS this year. Why? Because the app still brings decent numbers, my source Is Sensor tower. If you're curious, user u/ferinsy posts a monthly earnings table of popular joseimuke/otome games in the r/gacha subreddit, OG always have numbers around 120,000 while NB has irregular income, depending on the month (around 140,000-200,000) I will link the table of anyone wants it

But what I think will happen Is that OG Will stop having shared events soon enough, and the It will be put on life support (commonly what we call maintenance mode)

How long the app will be on maintenance mode? As long as Is profitable, old Solmare game (Moe Ninja Girls RPG) got put on life support for a whole year before being hit with an EOS in 2022. Soon after, the original app MNG VN got put on life support, you can still play the original MNG but not the RPG spin off

Again, this Is just a theory. For all I know, Solmare could be planning announcing that they will shut down OG tomorrow, because they have made really bad decisions since before NB launched. Who knows what will happen?

I don't know what to say, really. An app being shut down Is always tragic but this Is something thats bound to happen with all Live Service games, you can look at the Multiversus controversy, or the Love Live recent EOS, does someone remember AfterL!fe? That game only lasted a year... this Is the sad reality of the game industry now, you basically own nothing now, and it's sad all around.

Share what you like, what you dislike, because one day In the distant future both NB/OG will no longer exist, and they will only be remembered by the love and hate of their users.

[ragefilledseaurchin]

It's actually so shrimple

[cookiesandbiscuits]

ಠ⁠∀⁠ಠ

[devildomwriter]

Yeah that figures….

[alexxncl]

FIVE PULLS BITCH

[katboykirby]

I've mentioned this before, but - if you can only really afford to pull in a Birthday Nightmare in one of the two games (whether those reasons are actual money/finances or in-game resources like DV or DP) then it's better to pull in the original game.

In Nightbringer, the odds of pulling a Birthday UR are 0.49%

While in the original Obey Me, the odds are 1.00%

So, the chances are basically doubled for your pulls in the original game.

The Birthday Nightmares in the original Obey Me will have far fewer possible URs (usually only the Birthday UR card, that character's Chapter A UR card, and at least one UR card from past banners) at around 3-4 in total.

This is because the Birthday Nightmares in Nightbringer have a dozen other possible UR cards in the pool (all 12 of the UR cards from the Chapter A banner) so the odds have been adjusted for that accordingly. There are 13 possible UR cards you can pull (the 12 regular URs + the Birthday UR) so the odds are different compared to the original game to reflect that.

So if you can only pull for a Birthday UR in one game, your odds are better in the original OM, plus there's a chance you could pull old UR cards from past events that are no longer obtainable which is invaluable now that they've stopped doing Nightmare Revivals.

Nightbringer has a lot more UR cards that are possible to pull - I pulled at least five URs (Lucifer, Mammon, Barbatos, Beelzebub, and Diavolo's non-birthday UR card) while pulling for Diavolo's new Birthday UR in Nightbringer - which could be more appealing to you.... especially if, like me, you already own all the other older legacy cards in the original OM pool. However, the odds for URs are lower overall to make up for this. Plus, the other 12 URs are still available through Chapter A, including your free pulls, at all other times outside of character birthdays. In comparison, the old cards in the original OM are unobtainable outside of these Birthday Nightmares.

From where I'm standing, it's a better option to pull in the original Obey Me, in almost every way. Your odds of pulling the Birthday UR card are doubled, and the other UR cards in the pool are not easily obtainable through Chapter A like they are in Nightbringer.

In the end, the choice is yours. I know that many people have stopped playing the original game since Nightbringer came out and that's valid, especially if playing both games at the same time is unrealistic for you. So this all depends on what makes the most sense for you and what would benefit you more. The odds of pulling the Birthday UR are higher in the original game, but there are more UR cards to possibly obtain in Nightbringer. So if you can't pull in both games, make a decision that works best for you ☆

[winter-sol]

About the Nightmare system and Summon x10 for UR/+ cards.

Hey there. I've been contemplating if I should make a post about this, since it might not be very relevant in the first place. But considering how things have kinda exploded for the past two days regarding Nightbringer's gameplay and reward system, I've decided to share this little info. The post might be a bit long but I needed to explain what happened to get to the final part.

TL;DR version: Summon x10 most probably doesn't help getting UR/+ cards, it's the same as doing individual summons. And Solmare is not giving the info and details about how it works.

I'll explain how I got to that conclusion:

In the last Nightmare event, "First Step", as the huge Leviathan stan I am, I did everything I could do to get his UR+ card, using all the resources I had and farming like crazy for more DP and DV.

After about 118 pulls, the card never came.

You know, I am aware of how this works and I'm not going to complain in here about luck and all, that's not the point. But, in the final days of my crusade, I made an effort with a friend of mine to try to figure out what's best: Individual x1 summons, or the Summon x10.

I don't think I'm in the wrong by saying most players believe the Summon x10 actually increases your chances to get a valuable card. It does say it guarantees an SSR or higher in the banner.

But I started wondering if that was actually true, how does the Summon x10 work and what does it mean to guarantee an SSR or higher? What are the odds in that system?

So, with my friend, we started doing some calculations.

I need to be clear and say this was made mostly with Leviathan's UR+ in mind because that was my goal, to get that card specifically, but the logic should work for any UR/UR+ in Nightbringer's gacha events if the odds are the same and your goal is pulling those cards specifically.

Basically, if his card (and Diavolo's in that event) had a probability of 1,5% to drop, there was a 98,5% of not getting it, and doing some math I could detail if you want, we compared the chances for doing individual x1 summons ten times, and for doing a Summon x10 (in a system I'll detail a bit lower in here).

Without getting into the details of the calculations, the conclusion was: it's literally the same.

That, if we assume in the best case, that the odds are always 1,5%, be it individual or x10 pull. (other options included: the odds for those cards increase proportionally and that would make the odds for URs actually increase).

But now you might be wondering, why would the card still have that low percentage if, in a Summon x10, we are supposed to get a higher chance of getting valuable cards? After all, that's what most people go for when summoning if they want to increase their chances, right?

And that's exactly the question we had, how exactly are the odds working in there?

We theorized that Summon x10 works like this:

Out of 10 spaces, 9 use a regular pool with the regular odds you can find detailed in the Nightmare banner for every event, and 1 reserved space for a smaller pool of cards (the SSR and UR/+ ones) that has different odds.

The thing is... we don't actually know how it works and what the odds are for that smaller pool, so we tried theorizing like this:

If there's a reserved space for a different pool with different odds, since if needs to increase the chances compared to the regular pool, what exactly are those odds?

For example, in "First Step" there were 15 cards SSR or higher (the twelve regular SSRs + Barbatos SSR + DiaLevi URs). In the regular pool, those cards had a chance of:

Regular SSRs: 0.5%

Event! Barbatos SSR: 3.00%

Event! Diavolo/Leviathan UR+: 1.5%

But in this possible case, where a smaller pool should exist in that one reserved space, we have no idea what those odds are. I tried searching that info in the banner screen and the options menu, but there wasn't anything to be found. So me and my friend did the calculations assuming they worked as in using a SSR+ voucher, which were, if you checked the odds in the banner, the following:

Regular SSRs: 7.5%

Event! Barbatos SSR: 7.00%

Event! Diavolo/Leviathan UR+: 1.5%

Well, we start with the following information some may already now: Using a SSR+ Voucher has absolutely no benefit if you want a UR/+, because it keeps the same odds, and if anything, it only helps getting those SSRs. That should sound obvious because it's called SSR+ Voucher after all, but many people think it actually helps. But hey, that still isn't my main concern.

If we assume that the Summon x10 works like we just theorized, with that one space using the odds from the SSR+ Voucher, then, besides helping you get SSRs, Summon x10 doesn't help you with UR/+ cards. As simple as that.

When I realized it, I was struck with this feeling of foolishness because how did I not think about it before? And I'm sure I wasn't the only one, every new event I see people aiming for URs doing Summon x10.

...But that's not all, right?

Because all of this was only a theory and we don't know for sure how the Summon x10 actually works.

But we can try to find out, right? What's the detail in these odds? What do they mean when they "guarantee" an SSR or higher? (and, if you're careful enough, the details in the "option" menu only talk about guaranteeing at least one SSR, it never mentions the "higher" part).

Aaand this is where I wanted to get in the first place. I tried it. I tried asking Solmare about the details of how Summon x10 works and I first received an automatic response that completely avoided the question. So after insisting and directly asking one more time "In the Summon x10, what are the odds for the SSR or higher cards that are guaranteed?", I received this:

Now that's... That's shady. To say the least.

Why are they hiding the odds of the Summon x10? How does it work and how does it "guarantee" cards?

They could've confirmed the theory of the 9+1 spaces that I just explained (Yes, I wrote a long ass inquiry detailing that when I reached them), but instead they kept quiet?

I seriously don't understand, that information should be available, specially considering people pay to do it. Even if it doesn't work like I theorized, there has to be another way, that was exactly what I requested, without any hate or resentment, I was clear in what information I wanted. But... well.

I leave this information in here because I believe the players, if they hadn't figured this out already, should have this doubt in their minds as well when it comes to strategizing and using their resources. That in fact, we don't have all the information about the Gacha system, in purpose.

If you ask me about what conclusion did I reach with my friend, that is: If I only want the UR/+ of an event, I will only do individual pulls. The last days of that Nightmare event I did individual pulls and got Diavolo twice xD almost two times in a row (Diavolo -> filler card -> Diavolo) and that card had also a 1.5% chance of getting it. (Also, it pops up a new question: how does the random system work if a 1.5% card appears almost immediately one after another? Welp I haven't gotten there)

Of course if you want any card of the event, Summon X10 is a good option, it will certainly guarantee SSRs, but for URs... That's a different story.

So, yeah. That's my contribution from the torture I went through xD and the calculations I did with my friend (funnily, he came to the conclusion this has to be one of the most money grabbing gachas out there). I hadn't tried another method or theory for the odds but if you come up with something you can always complement the info.

If you need more details, feel free to hit the Ask button :3 (of you can even test the math with Chat GPT).

Peace out 👌

[maddymajolish]

Unpopular Opinion but I’m okay with no more Birthday events. There’s such a large cast of characters that birthdays began to feel extremely repetitive.

So Birthday stories being contained in a special UR doesn’t bother me.

What DOES bother me is it’s a card you have to do gacha pulls for.

If they’re going to change it to that then I rather they just give us the Birthday UR or a Birthday SSR for logging in on their birthday instead of 30DP.

[expressionless-fr]

Can they get any more greedy?

[kanashi-aivy]

I'm so fucking sad Solomon didn't come home and nkw I'm broke as hell, I FUCKING hate this game so much

[ayamiya345]

Why…

Lucifer just tell me why?? What the heck man, 40 pulls and no UR+. Yet 7 Lucifer. 7!

..I just want my cat boi. GIVE ME MY CATBOI. 😭😭😭😭😭

Also, is there something wrong with Nightmare because I swear the odd seem lower than ever. I pull 30 in NB and 40 on OG yet nothing??? I don’t even have one single event card in NB.

Like how??

Is s.o curse me with bad gacha luck. Cause if you do… you might want to sleep with you eyes open….

…i’ll find you

[cnl0400]

I get people being mad at the Ssr nightmare because It was throw up sudenly in the middle of a Celestial Blessing event, two other revivals and a Birthday banner. But genuine question:

Is there really a "good moment" to have a revival? This game has gotten two events per month since it's begginings and I don't see that changing anytime soon

I don't mind revivals being common If that means new players have the opportunity to have older cards tbh. The OG cards in NB coming without chats it's inexcusable tho

[mcx7demonbros]

Oh my goodness, it’s so absurd!!!

Like in OG, I used 150 DV but didn’t get the card.

And like just one free pull in NB and he came home 🥳🥳🥳