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Council of lovefools.
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#poorly drawn mdzs#mdzs#wei wuxian#jiang yanli#jiang cheng#They don't have an actual sleepover in this scene but the vibes were so sleepover coded...I had to get them cozied up.#Late night talks with friends and family are some of the best conversations.#My siblings and I used to have room sleepovers with each other (Actually an excuse to stay up and talk about runescape)#Currently my flatmates and I also have really great heart to hearts late into the night.#Pondering shit like 'What defines confidence?“ and ”Why are people terrified of letting themselves fall in love?"#All that aside; There is a really great conversation between JC and WWX here. They are so close and yet so far way from each other!#Fundamentally they *agree* about many things - but JC now has to play the role of someone more 'mature'.#His temper is reigned in and he had to take a more nuanced approach. Whereas WWX can be far more reactionary.#JC has changed to become someone more mature (or at least he is trying).#Contrast this attitude with the scene *right* after where WWX literally goes baby mode with JYL. Rolling around going “I'm Fwee years old”.#When children are hurt we comfort them with hugs and warm food and a laugh. It's not enough when you're an adult. It's not simple anymore.#WWX is stuck in the past when everyone else is shifting and moving on! It's a depression allegory (and just...actual depression)#But we also get to see how some things have stayed the same. They still bicker about soup. They still tease. They are still together.#They all care for each other very much but they are struggling against trauma and are not equipped to talk about it.#You can't really blame WWX for being so protective over JYL. But JC is right: “You don't have a say in who she likes.”#It may have started as an arranged marriage but *she* is *choosing* what her heart wants. JC sees that. WWX cannot.#The final act of love is letting go after all.
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Danny Fenton, aka Phantom, has been given a new task!
In short, literally no one in the Ghost Zone/Infinite Realms wants their mostly peaceful afterlife to be rocked by a certain Gotham rogue named Joker. Which, when he dies, is almost sure to happen because of whatever the hell was in that vat he dropped in included ectoplasm. So, yay, he’s also a little ghostly too, meaning he *is* pretty hard to kill. Unfortunately, there’s also a certain vigilante that is quite keen to murder him in recent years.
So now Danny has to keep the mass murderer trauma clown alive for as long as he possibly can while attempting to keep the Joker from. Well. Being the Joker.
Oh, and naturally, Danny got this assignment AFTER Joker got out of Arkham. Again. And entirely blew up the asylum. Time to join the Goonion, he is NOT doing this without getting PAID, thank you.
#danny phantom#dpxdc#dp crossover#the idea is that Danny is now an. assistant? henchman? who will NOT let this man die but also can’t let him just put bombs everywhere#Danny’s search history is stuff like how do I give enrichment to a super villain so he doesn’t kill more people#it shockingly has results#there’s also possibly a ghostly court case bc some people who died DO want joker dead and are willing to re-kill him once he….#…. re-emerges as a ghost if that’s what it takes#danny is the MOST reluctant body guard#he’s using Psycho Babble! he’s using Jazz Fenton Language!#he hates it! he can strategize and such just fine but he’s really more of a…#… punch thing until it stops being a problem#sort of guy. percussive maintenance as his dad would say#he’s just there like#Hello Mr. Joker#have you considered NOT setting the orphanage on fire? there are better ways to get senpai to notice you#I heard flowers are nice. wait no do NOT call Poison Ivy-!#Danny is having a bad time. joker is having a time once he realizes Danny would rather not be here but is seemingly stuck#also joker maybe tried to kill him and it failed so he’s like#well. hm. that’s. not as new as it should be. have you met lord deathman?#the bats are trying to figure out this dynamic and failing miserably. they even call Harley and she’s like yeah no clue good luck tho
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The Case of the Devlin House (Reverse Verse!) as commissioned by @i-am-as-normal-as-you-are everyone thank Haunted!
The father of the Devlin family murdered his wife and children one night, and no one knows why. While investigating the case, Edwin finds a letter from the eldest daughter, in which she expressed her desire to go to college to get away from her father... and closer to the girl she loved. The family has been stuck in a loop since that awful night, and now Edwin is too.
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#ask ask ask#dead boy detectives#dbda#payneland#edwin x charles#reverse verse#the devlin loop#introducing: the gurls#niko has lost her memories of course but she subconsciously picks clothes that remind her of the attire she wore as a priestess#crystal doesn't necessarily think she can stab a ghost but she can try#charles and edwin are straight up not having a good time#which reminds me#cw homophobia#charles resents Niko and is now forced to work with her#he's also very scary and angry#and yes he is implying he's the bad man edwin is usually stuck with#edwin suddenly having to confront that this girl#even if she loved another girl#perhaps did not deserve to be murdered with an axe. shocking#and what does that mean for him?#well it means angst for us that's for sure
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coming back home after going through unimaginable hell the squeakuel
#shion got stuck w/ babysitting duty for the night so pearl and marina could have their oh so promised “us time” with one another lmao#anita is understandingly *very* concerned abt the whole thing and her gf but is just glad she's back home in one piece#splatoon#splatoon 3#side order#side order spoilers#slight ones but still there#agent 8#agent 4#smollusk#oc: anita#oc: shion#my art shit#couldn't sleep so i drew this silly thing#it's almost 5am so im gonna go back to bed and try to catch some zzz's now
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You meet your other sister-in-law very briefly.
She arrives unannounced in full Odonii garb and a long cloak for the cold, soaked through with rain. She's taller than most men, and carries herself like one too. Her hair spills out of her veil, not only unbraided but a horrendous mess. It's kind of fascinating. You catch a glimpse of a handgun slung across her back, hidden beneath her cloak. This is especially exciting; you’ve never seen one up close. You try to peek around her to get a better look at it, and flush in embarrassment when she catches you, shooting you a cold glare.
It doesn't seem like she speaks much without being spoken to, and you aren’t really the type to initiate conversations either. Livya fills in for the both of you, prompting your sister-in-law to introduce herself. Her name is Couya. You give her a respectful bow and curtsy, she gives a very slight bow back without looking you in the eye. She compliments your necklace. Or at least, she mumbles something while looking in the general direction of your necklace, and it might have been a compliment. You aren’t sure whether there’s something wrong with her or she’s just rude.
She's just her for filial duties at the family shrine, and she doesn't stay long. Livya stops her on her way out. She says she's disappointed that the one time in a year she can be bothered to come by, she shows up looking like a disheveled street-whore in priest's clothing. Look at Hibrides, she didn't even know we were having company and still did up her hair so nicely, and all by herself too. Thank God your father isn't here to see this, he's suffered enough embarrassment as it is-.
Couya stands in the doorway in silence through this whole speech. You thoroughly inspect a loose tile in the floor and try your best to pretend you aren't there. Livya doesn't take her hand off your shoulder the whole time.
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[I've been writing an overview of Hibrides' first several years of marriage for the hell of it. It's just a summary but it's written with like, the slightest bit of prose, so figured I'd dump a section here]
#Not sure why I started writing this in 2nd person but it's stuck like that now#Livya was the most depressed housewife that has ever lived and deeply unwell. Neither of her daughters went through the#normal experiences she had to of marriage and moving away from home and having children and etc so when Janeys abandons Hibrides#in her home for about 3 years she kinda gloms onto her and treats her like another daughter. She projects on Hibrides HARD#because she reminds her of what she was like as a 15 year old bride. Sees Hibrides as having gotten fucked over with a terrible#husband (which isn't Wrong but its straight up significantly better than how her other options probably would've turned out)#and wants to toughen her up for what she sees as an inevitably dismal life ahead.#This isn't great for the newlywed child who just got moved away from everything she ever knew and abandoned with her#complete stranger of a mother in law.#And also finds herself in the 'golden child used to shame the other children' position frequently which is what's going on here#I might post the whole summary but this is like. The most grimdark part of Hibrides' entire life like its pretty damn rough.#Kind of by nature because it's about being a 15 y/o child bride (not considered a child in this society but like you know).#Also kinda of gives the wrong idea for what she's like later as an actual adult with substantially more agency in her situation.#hibrides uryashta#couya haidamane#livya haidamane
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Say what you will about the DC timeline but we all know the truth, Jason Todd uses AO3 and has an account despite not understanding these new fangle technological advancements (hes fucking with Tim he understands what cookies are, it pisses off Tim more than anything else Jason has done)
#jason todd#tim drake#batfam#look I just think that Jason would use the ''I was dead when this was made'' excuse to get out of being forced to join a GC#and then it kind of snowballed into him not understanding what an ''email'' is#despite the fact that Talia def showed him and taught him everything he needed to know including technology#now hes just fucking with Tim while updating his 500K ao3 masterpiece fanfic that Tim has no evidence is real#only Babs knows and Tim is desperately trying to find evidence its the only case that Tim is literally failing at#Dick keeps bugging Tim in showing Jason how to use the computer upstairs and Jason somehow breaks Tim's phone. Twice.#Damien also catches on and does it to Tim too but it backfired in Dick trying to teach him instead#now hes also stuck in doing it#Its a whole ass shitshow that Bruce doesnt even know is happening until Jason uses the batcave computer and Tim fucking tackles him#while screeching about evidence#Bruce calls up harley afterwards to ask if she would be willing to do sessions with RR#its a whole thing
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Gog au niigo for tonights doodle
#I am still deeply stuck in the huh? hwah? stage but I think I at least found a presentation I'm happy with#so ig that's the last gog au post from this blog (I still will reblog upcomming art and tagg them adequately so there is no real loss lmao)#now here comes the usual “man idk” speech#species are still more or less randomly picked. I did settle on only using the owls mentioned in the books (lest I study all 268 owls)#I really like making Mafuyu a sooty owl (cuz the design slaps(objective truth)) Ena as a burrowing owl would be fun#and Mizuki is a short eared owl. Mainly becausen those are the “the eyliner owls” for me...also I like short eared owls#Kanade is a borreal owl because they are noted to have a beautiful song (unless the ger edition made that up (idk this is the idk speech))#for Kanade I thought it would be nice to make her a normal colored owl that turned white due to stress. That'll stay no matter what#Mafuyu will prolly be moon blinking but the drawing doesn't show that and now I'm going to explode (bwagh I'm dead)#whatever sleep for the sleepless (me)#my art#niigo#mafuyu asahina#asahina mafuyu#kanade yoisaki#yoisaki kanade#mizuki akiyama#akiyama mizuki#ena shinonome#shinonome ena#prsk gog au#edit: oh yeah Enas wings are colored because I'm playing with the idea that she paints her feathers to be more interesting?#idk like to visualize her bodyimage issue or to just make her artistic side obvious#project sekai#(I always forget that tagg)
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Okay I think that one thing we're really not talking about is how Telemachus adds something to the end of each song, the exact moment we think it's over.
"If I fight those monsters, is it you I'll find? or "Tell me Athena why you came to my aid"
He's setting up for the next song, telling us that there's still more to it. In the Wisdom Saga, he figuratively acts as a reprise to Odysseus, through his relationship with Athena and the riffs Jay pointed out in We'll Be Fine.
That's why I think it's especially important that in We'll Be Fine, Athena is the one adding to the end of the song.
"You're a good kid."
Though Telemachus technically has the last line there too, it's not one that provokes action. Instead Athena adds a line, which in theory didn't need to be there. In all technicality, the song had ended. The next song, she takes action.
She's giving herself a reprise. A second chance.
#sirjoing#epic the musical#epic the wisdom saga#telemachus#athena#jorge rivera herrans#i have a lot of thoughts about this#the way telemachus is just constantly setting up for the next scene#the way he's *adding* so much to the narrative#i know im using the word reprise very loosely btw#also like#the way in the following songs athena is doing the same thing#she ends love in paradise#she ends god games#now its her who is telling us *there is more*#her who says *the story does not end here*#really important because odysseus is#infinitely stuck on calypso's island
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The first batch of my Arc 3 concept designs are finally done! It felt fitting to begin with the three who started it all: Rayla, Callum, and Ezran
Check out the more in-depth story and design choices below
Rayla
In the wake of S7’s Finale, Azymondias wasn’t just a 2-year-old King of the Dragons, but the only surviving Archdragon. That means he’s a very important figure across Xadia and the Human Kingdoms – and needs to be protected. Shortly after the events of S7, Rayla reclaims her title as ‘The Last Dragonguard’ and resurrects the order to act as Zym’s attendants, advisors, and protectors. She’s spent the last few years travelling between the Storm Spire, the Silvergrove, and Evrkynd, helping where she can and leading her fellow guards (who may be revealed in a later post). Rayla’s relationship with Callum has grown stronger than ever. Even though they’re holding off on marriage until Aaravos is dealt with for good, Callum gives her the Xadian equivalent of a promise ring he handcrafted (Ethari helped). With them both feeling secure with each other, they are more comfortable with being separated…but that won’t stop them from being attached at the hip whenever they’re near each other.
Going into these Arc 3 designs, I had a much clearer image in my head of Rayla compared to the other characters in my lineup. Using reference images of Tiadrin and Lain made creating Rayla’s Dragonguard uniform feel very bittersweet. Unfortunately, from a creative standpoint, uniforms run the chance of limiting the personality in a character’s design. I tried offsetting this by making Rayla’s undershirt and embedded gemstones in her armour more Silvergrove-y than Dragonguard-y. I also kept Rayla’s iconic belt, Arc 2 colour scheme, and added some of Ethari’s swirls where possible. Beyond the uniform, I kept going back and forth about her hairstyle. Keep the Arc 2 bun? Return to Arc 1’s style? Braided? A simple ponytail? Eventually, I settled on a half-up braid that let my sleep-deprived brain think I was getting the best of both worlds.
Callum
Ezran was disappointed when Callum turned down being his High Mage again, fearing that he’d lose his brother’s support in the council room. In reality, stepping down as High Mage meant that Callum could step up as Crown Prince. In the years following S7, Callum splits his time between assisting Ezran and studying magic on expeditions across Xadia. One of those expeditions leads him to Aaravos’ book in Elarion, which helps him delve deeper into the other primal sources. He’s fully mastered Sky and Ocean magic and has grown incredibly proficient at Earth magic. To Callum’s dismay, even with the help of Lujanne, Ethari, and Aaravos’ book, he still isn’t clicking with the Moon arcanum. He also hasn’t fully unlocked the Sun arcanum, but he’s getting very close and is a strong fire mage when wielding the Staff of Ziard. By Arc 3, Callum has gained the title of Archmage – and people far and wide seek him out for magical assistance, leaving him overworked and exhausted.
I was very excited to come up with Callum’s Arc 3 design for one reason: the parallels. His Arc 2 outfit is meant to resemble Viren, as Callum had taken his place as the High Mage of Katolis. But because he is no longer ‘High Mage,’ and instead ‘Archmage’, Callum’s Arc 3 outfit is intended to reflect Aaravos. I tried to do this with the sleeveless design, the open coat, and the vaguely celestial elements on his tunic. The geometric pattern on Callum’s coat is meant to look like a feather (symbolising his first primal source) while in the style of his Arc 2 coat. Rayla gifted Callum a matching belt buckle to hers (though with a moon opal for emergencies), which he wears alongside his uneven towers buckle from Ezran. His hair is mostly the same, except slightly longer, because I don’t see overworked-mage Callum caring about his hairstyle.
Ezran
S7 was a massive tipping point for Ezran: losing his brother, his true heart, and almost losing himself to the cycle of violence. While he stopped before he could go too far, Ezran was unequivocally changed by what happened. After Aaravos’ defeat, Ezran has been overseeing Evrkynd’s construction, ensuring it’s a safe home for humans and Sunfire elves who lost their home. However, it is also open to anyone, regardless of their origin. While he and Queens Janai and Amaya decided the people would rule the city of Evrkynd, Ezran continues to rule wider Katolis alongside his council. He does spend most of his time in Evrkynd for his royal duties, but Ezran is learning to take breaks – occasionally joining Callum, Rayla, and Zym on small getaways. As is tradition for anyone in the royal family, Ezran began combat training in his mid-teens with Soren as his teacher. He’s grown quite good and can hold his own in a battle (long enough for his Crownguard come to his aid, at least).
Ezran’s design in TDP has always been one of the simplest ones, probably symbolising his humble personality despite his status. I tried to maintain that effect in his Arc 3 outfit but with one major alteration. Going into this design, I wanted Ezran’s struggle in S7 to have had a visible impact on him by including armour in his design. His outer tunic is now gambeson, and his shoulder pads are scuffed-up leather. If he decides to wear it, the gold studs on Ezran’s shoulders are where his cloak will latch on. As should be expected from an age jump this severe, the biggest change to Ezran was his build. He’s finally overtaken his brother in height, much to the dismay of both Callum and Rayla, and is expected to be as tall as Harrow when he’s finished growing.
#i forgot but i think i drew them to be ~5 years post S7?#rip rayla’s crop jacket i really wish you worked well with armour#at least she’s still got a hood?#i was stuck on callum’s shirt for so long experimenting with different patterns#callum also came out a lot buffer than i intended but honestly? good for him. the mage-wings are probably a serious workout#btw ezran’s got a bun now instead of his arc 2 ponytail#praise be to my lightning pen for making the curls more unruly in his hair#the dragon prince#tdp#tdp speculation#tdp arc 3#tdp fanart#tdp rayla#tdp callum#tdp ezran#broyals#rayllum#catcher writes (draws!)#continue the saga#give us the saga#greenlight arc 3#*staring at rayla’s hands* 🫠 should’ve redone those#please bear with me on these i’m very much a writer first and artist second
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right now i'm essentially just working through the list of my less talked about ocs from the cyberpunk extended ocverse, with this time: rikki! she's the youngest of the valentine family, leader of a small gang known as santa madre (previously a branch of the valentinos), and she works at club bodytalk as security specializing in cargo transport, escorts, and pickup/dropoff gigs :D
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@velocitic, @deadrlngers, @euryalex, @ordinarymaine, @gurathins;
@mojaves, @shellibisshe, @dickytwister, @mnwlk, @rindemption;
@ncytiri, @calenhads, @noirapocalypto, @florbelles, @radioactiveshitstorm;
@strafethesesinners, @fashionablyfyrdraaca, @radioactive-synth, @katsigian, @estevnys;
@elgaravel, @aezyrraeshh, @carlosoliveiraa
#cp2077#cyberpunk 2077#art#art:rikki#nuclearocs#nuclearart#i love her so much and i really do NOT talk enough about her. she's so special to me#also really tall sorry i like doing that. but she's built like a stick so you can just push her over very easily#since she's born in night city and only half british (unlike her siblings) she would have the classic night city accent#but when she's been around her siblings the british side would jump out so much more but also she does use street slang a lot#idk i'm just imagining her saying gonk with a british accent. ok that's gonna be stuck in my head for a while now#anyway she's fun :] makes clothes together with harlowe... just in general does a lot of like. arts and crafts with him#ever since harlowe got adopted into the family the two have been inseparable... they hang out at the club a lot between work stuff ^_^
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Don't Wormy About Me.
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#poorly drawn mdzs#mdzs#jiang cheng#wei wuxian#yu ziyuan#Please allow me to make it clear how important I think the hug between YZY and JC is in regards to several aspects of their characters#For one - it is the resolution and reveal that behind all the harsh words and bitterness...She really did love her son.#A hug is a soft gesture that you would never expect from someone like YZY and the fact she shows JC this affection now -#-Tells us how she knows that this upcoming battle is a death sentence for her.#Her giving away Zidan is honestly overkill but another sign of her truly showing him how she loves him and wants him to survive.#The dread of knowing she's walking back to a fight without zidian and trying to keep up brave face one last time...chilling.#Zidian represents legacy and promises. And this is going to both save and destroy Jiang Cheng as he carries this weight alone.#Heartbreaking stuff! Didn't draw it in the comic because I wanted to draw a silly worm on a string!#WWX tried to help JC out of the knot but got stuck in it.#Those worm on a string tricks are harder than they look!#Also; it's been about a year since the last boat joke - but indeed this is the 11th boat of pd-mdzs. No need to do the math.
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My entry for the transfem Leo tournament ( @ultimatebabygirlsupremebattle ) <33
You asked what name(if any) I call her and I do have a special name for her!!
Lenore :]
#my art#my digital art#off queue#tmnt#teenage mutant ninja turtles#tmnt 2012#tmnt 2012 leo#tmnt leo#transfem leo#Lenore#technically Lenore wasn't from me originally#the name came from a friend of mine and it stuck#also I have. so many old drawings of Lenore I could've used#but I wanted to do something now for it!!#so here she is :]#also. I have to post this off of my normal art queue which is always funny#to me. because the queue is always months behind#purplearts
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day 102
no sabo kid
#can you imagine. having phrases of words being intrinsically stuck with you from a language you cant understand#it feels like home but you cannot speak a word of it#and you *should* know it but you dont and it feels like that part of you is lost forever when you can barely say your own name#anywayssss my mom never taught me spanish so now i have to take the ap spanish exam in 9 hours 😋#here i purposefully drew ado from dl3 under the axiom that shes a younger adeleine..no older than nine id think#younger as in she still remembers a couple of words from the Forgotten Language#after that? lack of use and lack of people to talk to made her forget by the time 64 rolls around#by star allies shes completely forgotten the language. its unrecognizable and she barely has any memory of it.#and then of course FL comes and the Identity Crisis#adeleine#adeleine kirby#kirby series#day 102
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#byte's bites#the amazing digital circus#rerouted ringmaster au#tadc#tadc pomni#tadc caine#scrimbles SCRIMBOS!!!!#The silly sillies#The jest of the au is btw that!! Pomni found a working computer while she was running through the 'Exit' offices#Then used it to make herself the Game Admin in the hopes she'd be able to find a EXIT#So now she's stuck managing the game and Caine gets to deal with EXISTENTIAL DREAD ✨
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(Like or reblog if you wanna use)
#don’t get me wrong i love all of the protagonists#maya and rico especially#but because acat didn’t have enough screentime to develop her character and maybe redeem herself-#im now stuck with an over 1000 possibilities as to how she could’ve been useful to the plot withought#writers outright killing her#like cmon#if irredeemable secondary villain then why super cool powers and sacrifice for those she loves???#maya and the three#maya y los tres#maya and the 3#mat3#maya princess of teca#rico the rooster wizard#chimi the skull archer#picchu the puma warrior#acat goddess of tattoos#meme#shower thoughts
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vincent crabbe and gregory goyle
There are few HP characters I think are badly written, but while rereading I often feel like we could have done without Crabbe and Goyle. Or at least without one of them. They basically have no speaking lines and just "flex their muscles" a lot (I hate this lol it's so silly to me.)
To be fair, Crabbe does get more interesting in HBP/DH, when he emerges from Draco's shadow and becomes a character in his own right. And in a way Harry himself points this out in the narration-- he's surprised at the softness of Crabbe's voice because... he's basically never heard his voice in 7 years. Like alright I'll accept Crabbe's presence in the books because I do actually like the fact that he starts rebelling against Malfoy. The brief final exchange with Crabbe alone gives him a lot more depth, and it's hinted at in HBP with Crabbe starting to question Malfoy's orders. Like I think this is quite good:
All of this makes Crabbe slightly more interesting to me, but I'm pretty sure Goyle's only given character trait over 7 books is being stupid lmao. Arguably some of this lack of depth is just because Harry doesn't pay attention to them, but also it's remarkable how much more interesting Theodore Nott, who doesn't appear until OotP, seems just because of his ability to see Thestrals (also his father is more interesting than Crabbe Sr and Goyle Sr in the graveyard.) And it's weird because jkr is typically quite good at infusing very minor characters with interest and depth, even if they only have one line in the entire series (Nott's father being a good example.)
Goyle I think literally just doesn't add anything as a character. I'm a little torn about Crabbe because in a way I do think it's interesting for him to basically be a non-entity and then take Harry (and us) by surprise during their first conversation in 7 years, right before his death. So I think Crabbe would be a better character overall without Goyle dragging him down by association lol.
But anyway despite Crabbe's last hurrah, most of the time both characters are just kind of extensions of Draco, it's even stated that they "seemed to exist to do Malfoy's bidding." Pansy and even the much more minor Zabini and Nott all feel so much more dynamic. Like I said, characters who only appear for a single line are given more depth than Crabbe and Goyle who are "on screen" all the time but seem to share a non-personality, because until HBP there's almost no distinction between the two (apart from Goyle being a bit stupider.)
Honestly it seems like until HBP they're mostly there to make Malfoy more of a threat to the trio, since otherwise Ron and Harry could just pummel Draco when he got mouthy and win. I think if Malfoy's gang had just been one of them (Crabbe) and then maybe Nott as more of a sycophant type of role rather than just a thug, this would have worked much better.
I mentioned the Crabbe Sr and Goyle Sr, who are also remarkably uninteresting/blank compared to other minor Death Eaters like Nott Sr or Avery. This makes me never want to include them as Death Eaters in anything I write haha. They just "bow clumsily and mutter dully" so it feels like all we can conclude is that Crabbe Sr and Goyle Sr are just.. exactly the same as their sons but as adults, which is doubly boring because them being copies of their sons is boring but also their sons are boring to begin with. Neither family is part of the Sacred Twenty-eight, and the only mildly interesting inference I can draw here is that they were low-ranking Death Eaters, untalented, basic lackeys who deliberately encouraged their sons to suck up to Lucius Malfoy's son, which is why Vincent and Gregory dutifully followed Draco's orders for so long.
I can imagine that after Lord Voldemort's downfall, Lucius was probably the highest-ranking Death Eater to escape Azkaban, and he might have been seen as a sort of rallying point by those who believed Voldemort was gone. Natural followers like Crabbe and Goyle would have gravitated to Lucius as the new alpha lol, and I think it does add a little bit of interest if the reason why Vincent and Gregory allowed themselves to be bossed around and talked down to by Draco for so long is because they were specifically instructed or encouraged to do so as children. This also explains why Crabbe starts to rebel when Lucius loses favour after OotP.
#i wish that crabbe sr and goyle sr weren't named in the graveyard lol. i have no wish to think about them at all#but the fact that voldemort specifically mentions them when he passes over others does seem to imply they had more relevance to him?#haha this started as a few sentences and now ive written an entire meta about crabbe and goyle#i think the explanation is that PS was a bit more simplistically written than the later books.#so crabbe and goyle are just 1 dimensional antagonist archetypes in a kid's book. similar to dudley's gang#(even though piers polkiss also feels more interesting than them haha. i think nott should have been a similar profile to piers polkiss)#anyway. then she was stuck with them and just used them when convenient haha#crabbe and goyle#meta
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