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Jon Kent and Damian Wayne in the Young Justice Animated Series

It’s been a good long while since Young Justice: Outsiders came out, so I feel like I can finally write about this without worrying about tagging spoilers and ruining lives or something. This is something I thought about the second this episode aired, and I’ve been waiting to write it. So here it goes!

Young Justice: Outsiders was obviously exciting for many reasons, but some of the most excitement came from introductions of well beloved characters, such as Jason Todd and Damian Wayne (seen in Episode 6) and Jon Kent (seen in Episode 9). Anyone who follows Super Sons already knows that this is a massive deal, because it establishes that Damian and Jon both exist in the same animated timeline for the very first time, as well as it being Jon’s animated debut.

While I’m obviously extremely excited for the possibility of a Super Sons animated moment, it got me thinking. The screen shots above show that Damian and Jon are both infants, likely somewhere around one (1) year old. This is completely different from the three (3) year age difference we’re used to, and while this difference might not seem like that big of a deal to some people, it has the capacity to completely change their character dynamics.

Let’s start by looking at Damian:

We all know Damian’s backstory by now; raised in the League of Assassins by Ra’s and Talia Al Ghul, until he was ten (10) years old, when he moved to Gotham to live with Bruce Wayne. It was at this point that he became Robin. This is a pretty concrete point in Damian’s character, and is very unlikely to change. At some point in the YJ series, he needs to become Robin. But lets take a minute to think about what kind of person he was at that age: arrogant, violent, stubborn, and desperately trying to prove his worth to a father he just met. At this point, he was a killer, and regularly fought with just about every member of the Batfam, Bruce and Dick in particular, as he tried to break the habits he’d been brought up with.

In the context of YJ, we can assume that Dick would at some point bring Damian along to join the Team, but the question is, at what age? Damian joining almost immediately fits pretty well with how quickly he was introduced to the Teen Titans. But, at that age, he was hardly a team player. It wasn’t until he was about thirteen (13) that he really started developing actual friendships. However, the age Damian joins the Team - in my opinion at least - would depend very heavily on when the other “Next Generation” heroes join.

This brings us to Jon:

Jon is known for being the complete antithesis to Damian. Rather than being raised to be a loyal machine, he was raised to be a loyal friend. Jon is a character who puts family first, and thinks of his friends as family. He’s truly a breath of childish fresh air in an industry that loves feeding us doom and gloom. While he is beloved by the majority of the fanbase, other characters were very apprehensive about him when he first got into the hero business at ten (10) years old; not-so-coincidentally, the same age as Damian.

However, Jon is also the character in DC comics with the most amount of pressure on him. You imagine being the son of Superman for a moment, and growing up knowing that every single person you meet expects you to one day take over that title. Do you think you’d be able to handle that? Let alone at ten years old? I certainly can’t. Yet it seems like Jon doesn’t actually realize just how heavy that weight on his shoulders is.

While Supers are known for being power houses, and every team seems to want one, Jon was a kid, and very new to his abilities. He was unpolished; constantly making mistakes, misjudging his own strength, overshooting his speed and flight, and who could possibly forget when he lost control Manchester Black, or when he went full Super Nova and nearly killed the Teen Titans? It became very clear at the end of the first Super Sons run that Damian was actually the only other young hero that trusted Jon, which is why they continued to function as the newest take on a dynamic duo.

How does this all come back to Young Justice: Outsiders? Well it’s actually very simple. All of that mistrust that characters were going to have in Jon was immediately erased the second the series did this:

Right here is the next generation of the Team. We all know it, and unlike previous heroes, this is the first generation that’s growing up together. Unlike every other iteration of the Justice League, Teen Titans, Young Justice, and literally every other team you can think of, these kids are all going to grow up watching each other’s powers come in. They’re going to know each other’s weaknesses and flaws, from weekly play dates, birthday parties, and any other hero-family get-together; some of them might even end up going to the same schools in this universe. Yes, Jon is the youngest out of them, but that just means that every single one of these kiddos is going to watch him grow up, knowing that S on his chest will always be there.

Let’s think about what we know about Jon again. He’s charismatic, funny, loyal and true, and has this uncanny ability to be able to talk to literally anyone, regardless of who the are, where they’re from, or what circumstance he’s in. You know what those traits line up perfectly with? A natural born leader.

Growing up in this environment, where all these super kids play all the time, it’s so easy to imagine Jon growing up and being this larger than life personality that everyone just naturally seems to listen to. Jon would be the kid coming up with new games to play, and teaching them to everyone else. He would be one of the team captains when they play kickball, soccer, or any other sport. He would be genuinely interested in everyone’s hobbies and skills. He would be the one everyone turns to when they need someone to talk to. If someone’s unsure about him, chances are they’ll just do what everyone does; take one look at that S on his chest and just start listening.

The series progresses. There’s another time skip, and Damian and Jon are now both ten years old, taking on their respective superhero mantels for the first time. As all young heroes in this series eventually do, they join the Team. Perhaps around the same time, perhaps Damian joins a few months before hand, or vice versa. But that doesn’t matter, because the effect will be exactly the same.

Damian is harsh. He’s vindictive, and unemphatic; the exact opposite of what everyone expects a Robin to be. He refuses to take orders, and is very clearly trying to fight his was to the top of the food chain. Plus, he comes right in and kicks Tim Drake out of the Robin title, someone who could very likely be the current leader. Chances are, everyone would hate Damian from the get-go. Meanwhile, everyone would be looking forward to the day Jon joins. They all knew he would. It was just a matter of time.

Rather than being introduced to each other with a clear difference in experience like in the comics, Jon and Damian are now on relatively even playing fields because they’re the same age. Damian would have more combat skills, but Jon’s already an integral part of the group, and he’s a fast learner. Obviously they would but heads, likely even more than they did in Supers Sons.

One of the biggest debates we see in every single season of YJ is “Ok, but who’s in charge?” This would undoubtedly come up as Damian flat out refuses that listen to any leadership if he doesn’t deem them worthy. Even at ten (10) years old, he would likely be fighting for that position of head honcho, because at this point in his life, Damian’s driving forces are his ego and his ambition. Unfortunately for him, at ten (10) years old, with that personality, and after having just left the League of Assassins, he’s completely untrustworthy.

Jon on the other hand is a perfect candidate for eventual leader. Everyone would have followed Kon, the Superboy before him, to the ends of the Earth. Superman led the Justice League at one point, plus he’s, you know, Superman. Here we’ve got that legend’s kid, with all the makings to eventually take over the whole operation. He’s young, and pretty green, but chances are every single person on the team would have it in the back of their minds that this kid was born to lead.

The biggest problem? Jon has a tendency to crack under pressure, and second guess himself. There is a chance that Damian rushing to be in charge would force Jon to be pushed forward far too quickly, long before he’s ready. Meanwhile, Damian’s smart as sin. No one on the Team would be able to deny that Damian’s a perfect strategist, who analyses and memorizes every skill set and strength of the people he has to work with. He can come up with a flawless plan at the drop of a hat. Meanwhile, Jon would be the kind of person to lead with his heart, and build morale on a foundation of morals and trust.

That’s going to be the conflict between Damian and Jon in Young Justice because of how they were introduced in the series, and with their lack of age gap. Damian doesn’t have the time to grow and gain everyone’s trust before Jon becomes Superboy, where as Jon wouldn’t have the chance to learn before getting pushed into leadership positions he isn’t ready for. They’re likely going to but heads even more than before, and right now, there’s no way to tell if they will ever be able to achieve the friendship they have in the comics, or if they’ll be stuck as rivals.

Is it too early to make assumptions? Yeah. Probably. Who knows what the writers have planned. But I don’t think there’s any way to doubt the conflict they just created for themselves.

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made-from-galaxies · 6 years ago

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super-novatuna · 3 years ago

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can't wait for the consequences of mary saying shazam!

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super-novatuna · 3 years ago

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*screams in new young justice episode*

the gang is slowly piecing themselves together i can FEEL a full reunion coming on hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnf pls

detective dick making leaps and arriving at the right place and damn go big brain <3

don't appreciate klarion trying to obliterate everyone but his energy? unmatched. love that guy

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super-novatuna · 2 years ago

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the deaths being glossed over so quickly and barely considered tells me that they don't mean for us to actually mourn, we know they're alive. that they died is probably mostly for the kryptonians, to let them keep moving in the belief that they're winning. it's for the characters not the audience.

like, how do you expect us to believe dick would realize something was collapsing above him and NOT dive out of the way lol. the team on the bioship can't be dead either, not only is it too many people the only confirmation we have is a mind-addled conner who HAS been tricked to think someone was dead before.

rocket is still in wherever a closed boomtube leads to. she might be dead but I'm pretty sure if staying inside a closed boomtube kills you they would've mentioned it somehow

i could be completely wrong and they're pulling a time travel but that'd be a no no for me

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super-novatuna · 2 years ago

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ep 24 is just me going "oh shit" every two minutes then going OH SHIT OH FUCK OH NO two minutes before the episode ends

in other matters, where the fuck did klarion go? baby teekl is alone and sleeping where's the witch boy baby kitty is anchoring

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super-novatuna · 3 years ago

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the credit scene in involuntary is SO FOUL. WHAT THE FUCK. OUCH DUDE.

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super-novatuna · 2 years ago

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they're not dead kryptonians are terrible at figuring out if people are dead

also this is literally the pre-finale episode i am Losing it what the Fuck

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super-novatuna · 2 years ago

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Young Justice: Phantoms Finale Death and Rebirth reaction

simple version: ...eh. good, could've been better. maybe i set my expectations too high

long version:

holy shit that was a frustrating speech. clark isn't there to rule, motherfucker

honestly? i expected the whole dick wasn't dead thing. literally no way he did die. unsurprising

m'gann tricking the zods with an illusion? neat. forgot that was a possibility

oh shit, actually coordinating their events! woohoo!

"rocket didn't make it" YEAH RIGHT LMAO

love how they were all "no time to mourn" 100% expected that

KON'S FLASHBACKS WARMED MY HEART SO MUCH. LIKE MM. THEY R FAMILY!

the fight scene with everyone coming in? epic. loved that part tbh. dick directing everyone <3 love him. YOINK! bart allen my darling

m'gann fucking with everyone's minds? go m'gann fuck em up!!

i guess... m'gann was just showing prominent memories with her due to a "heat of the moment" thing... but also not. because those are all romantic memories. there's a Team they were in together. like hmmm i really wanted more than just them in a romantic light

ELS VERSUS ZODS was pretty cool but the els are fucking dorks oml "for Earth" in UNISON. dorks.

THROW THEM ALL INTO THE PHANTOM ZONE YES? (the reveal that they were not actually all in the phantom zone felt a little disappointing and didn't impact me the way i thought it would've? it felt like an afterthought)

m'gann using the mindspace to have some LAST WORDS with m'comm is fantastic

everyone arriving after most of it's over is just so funny to me but i'm half relieved they didn't play that for laughs jfjhd

BB! GLAD YOU'RE DOING OKAY!

JON!!!!! JON BABY. YOU ARE A DARLING SWEET SUPER LITTLE BOY. OH JON.

sweet, wedding invitation!

congrats on finally being able to get fucking married to each other honestly

i love the collection of people here. batman cracked me up for some reason

dinah talking about the sanctuary... "oh fuck didn't the sanctuary-" (checking tumblr later, indeed, the sanctuary did. i also forgot it involved heroes in crisis. which i am not quite looking forward to. mostly cause people die. interested in how they handle the interrogation-style stuff)

batman in the corner. love that guy

man they had a nice plan for the kryptonians and everything.

good for m'comm i guess?? he gets his nice peace planet away from everything? OH SHIT CHAMELEON BOY'S HOME PLANET? WHAT ARE THESE IMPLICATIONS?

glad they got to go home. good for them

OH SHIT IS THAT TIMSTEPH? WAIT WHAT HAPPENED TO TIMCASSIE?

i'm like yay timsteph! but also eh??? what????

RINGBEARER JON! BABY!

honestly i focused super little on the wedding itself like congrats on getting married nd stuff but i have other priorities!

that post-credit scene was adorable. have fun being married

ok mary wasn't a surprise. the name black mary is interesting.

KARA? KARA ZOR-EL? HONEY? DARLING? OH MAN OH MAN. SHITS GETTING WILD.

and then it ended and my expectations were not met but i will watch the next season because they have me Intrigued by some points made

congrats on tying up most of the strings you set up but there's too many of them loose rn and i don't think the showmakers are planning to wrap them up which is disappointing

felt like the wedding took up too much of the time? maybe it's cause i didn't grow w yj that i don't feel so connected to supermartian but i wanted more Plot

overall really the most i can give it is 7/10 and that's slightly stretching it

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