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gf memes part twooo -> part one
#gravity falls#waddles gravity falls#stanley pines#stanford pines#bill cipher#bill gravity falls#book of bill#stan pines#stan gravity falls#i drew all of these. this morning. don’t ask.#gravity falls meme#gravity falls memes#meme#i’ll tag one hundred things. nothing matters. i’ve been drawing for the last two hours. i have nothing to do at work#billford#yeah that too
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more from my au, in which stan and bill have a reluctant agreement to build the portal (x)
bonus thought: they always tie in their card games, because they both know when the other is cheating and when the other is letting them win
[Image description: Fanart of Bill Cipher and Stanley Pines from "Gravity Falls." Alt text is provided and copied below the cut. End ID]
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Image one: Stan wears his Mr. Mystery outfit in the Shack, complete with an eyepatch and magic 8-ball cane. Bill nudges him, saying, "Ooh, eyepatch? How flattering!" Stan snarks back, "Can it, cyclops."
Image two: Bill and Stan float in a mindscape similar to Ford's, except they're playing cards on folding chairs and drink Pitt Colas.
Image three: In front of the broken portal, Stan sits on a toolbox with Journal 1 and other documents scattered in front of him. Bill hovers over his shoulder.
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#gravity falls#bill cipher#stanley pines#stan pines#digital art#artists on tumblr#doodleswithangie#500#i should probably have a name for this au but i have nothing yet#copied tags from the last post ->#there’s probably already an au or fic out there (and if so i’d love to see it!)#to me stan would never do an a la carte deal with bill like ford did#so they have an agreement with forever changing stipulations based on whatever hurdle gets in their way#think beetlejuice (across all iterations) but with more vitriol
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Schrödinger’s Feyre: Where Feyre is simultaneously a cunning and badass girlboss with a mind of steel and a fragile little lamb who doesn’t know any better. When they’re proud, she’s a skilled strategist and competent High Lady, but when it comes to facing the consequences of her actions and the implications of her power, suddenly she’s a little baby waddling through fairy land.
#And the perfect case study? just look at the indecisiveness of her stans when it comes to her culpability in the downfall of the Spring Cou#In one camp Feyre is an excellent and clever strategist who expertly infiltrated enemy territory to destroy those who wronged her#She exacts righteous revenge on her enemy with her wits…but when Tamlin points out the collateral damage wrought upon the innocent civilian#of the Spring Court suddenly it wasn’t Feyre’s fault at all and it was ACTUALLY entirely Tamlin’s fault that the Spring Court fell#Suddenly Feyre had nothing to do with it…how convenient lol#sjm critical#anti sjm#anti inner circle#feyre archeron#anti feyre#acotar#acomaf#acowar#anti feysand#anti acosf#anti rhysand#tamlin#pro tamlin
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Don't mind me, just slacking on a big Billford comic by making other far more ridiculous Billford comics and also some AU art (please excuse my slapdash human!Bill thank you please, also before anyone asks the art style is messy and all over the place because idgaf LOL)
This started out as an excuse to design a Bill Cipher-inspired "wedding" dress, but then spiraled wildly out of control. Various rambles and a bunch more human!Bill arts under the cut, including another silly little comic at the end! (Feel free to skip the rambles, I won't be offended. I know I'm bad at shutting up. XD)
I may or may not write some comedy stuff for this AU, which I'm calling 'For Better Or Worse (But Mostly Worse)'. While Ford DOES remember getting sloshed enough for one thing to lead to making out with another after karaoke, neither he nor Bill remember this wedding, At All. The Love God did nothing to dissuade them from going hog wild on their marriage spending, either, so it got...uh. Exorbitantly Expensive. As in, the grand total could probably buy the entire fucking MOON sort of expensive. (It's fine, don't worry, Bill's good enough at crime to be able to afford it.) Also, because the logic of this AU is mostly dictated by Rule of Funny, the Love God's powers are close to unlimited when it comes to matters of romance, but ONLY when it comes to matters of romance. (Like weddings!)
Want an empty human vessel to smash the soul of a triangle into for date nights or when it's convenient, or perhaps even when it's NOT convenient? Easy peasy! Want the marriage to be recognized in every corner of the multiverse from now until the end of time, thus making any potential future divorce nigh-on impossible? Can do! Want to buy an entire beach for the ceremony and honeymoon and in general, and totally not at all because it would be Super Hilarious to prevent any specific movies from being made on that very same beach in the future? Fine, whatever, it's not his finances he's ruining!
Does the Love God also provide special rings that just so happen to turn incorporeal as long as the "happy couple" doesn't remember that they barged into his dreams to bully him into presiding over their marriage? ...No comment!
He spends the next thirty years trying and failing to get in touch with either of them for payment. This is why you should always demand half the money up front, my guy!
Also it's absolutely a traditional Jewish wedding, because I like the idea of Bill demanding all the keepsakes from the marriage that he paid for, and being completely confused when one of the things he's handed is a fancy container full of broken glass. He gets it later, but in the moment, he thinks the Love God is just fucking with him some more.
Ramble over! Here's the full dress that caused the comic to happen, along with what Ford wound up wearing at the wedding (and begrudgingly agreeing to put on again later for Reasons), aaaaand also a close-up of Bill's ring:
I may have forgotten to draw Bill's hair floofier when drawing the back of the dress, lmao
Since double ring ceremonies have been leaking over into Jewish wedding customs for a while now, Ford also has a ring, but his is the much more traditional plain gold band. There's definitely a message engraved on the inside - embarrassing, cringe, or incriminating somehow - but I haven't decided what it is yet, so use your imagination for now. XD Bill, on the other hand, saw the phrase 'traditional plain gold band' and said "No Thank You" before proceeding to embellish his ring to his liking. And because he's a secret sap who adores Ford's extra fingers, the triangle points add up to twelve, as do the engraved stars. Yes, they're stars, not dots, I just got lazy. There's also six lashes on the eye gem, and probably an eye engraving on the inside with another six lashes. (Bill's got it BAD, okay? We all know this.)
Here are the initial scribbles of Bill's custom vessel in more casual attire, please ignore the wonky anatomy and the fact that I flat out refuse to ever draw him with a proper top hat:
He does actually need a cane in this vessel; since Bill tends to possess men and especially Ford more often than not, he's used to having a higher center of gravity when in a human body, so his ability to balance is pretty garbage. (He may or may not topple over with concerning regularity.) As for his empty eye socket, his bangs don't do much to hide it since he's so high-energy (dude is constantly on the move), and he also refuses to wear a patch over it, because 1.) why bother, and 2.) it's more fun to freak people out.
To better align with Ford's attraction towards the strange, the vessel was designed with super minor shapeshifting ability - Bill can look like a perfectly normal human, but he can also make the teeth and fingers sharper whenever he likes (which is mostly just when he's angry or being more of a menace than usual), as well as slit down the pupils or outright ditch the irises altogether. He can also have whatever he wants in the downstairs department, just because I'm an indecisive bitch on that front, lmao. Maybe he can have boobs if he wants them, too, but I ain't drawin' tits on no triangle, nuh-uh, no sir. His powers are otherwise limited down to what humans can do, because for some reason, the Love God doesn't trust Bill to not snap into Immediate Apocalypse Mode if he's given a physical form that's actually all his and no one else's.
Due to the body being all his and no one else's, it's also not really a standard possession so much as it is just...Bill being temporarily human. He's a lot more aware of and in tune with his human body's senses than he ever was with his "puppets", which makes things like pain a lot more intense. (He is mostly fine with this, because he's a fukken masochist.)
A bit more fashion stuff, including beach and party attire~
The beach outfit was mostly me trying and failing to nail down his body shape, which is still not bottom-heavy enough. I then decided to slap a bikini on it, before making it supremely unsexy with a pair of fugly shorts, because Bill's fashion choices are not allowed to be conventionally attractive. Meanwhile, the party outfit was mostly me looking at the casual attire I designed, asking 'how would Bill make this Worse', and then drawing the result. The mismatched thigh-highs are killing me inside! :D
No, his vessel can't actually summon fire, I just drew it for funzies before I decided on said vessel's limitations. Yes, the gold brick tattoos are absolutely a reference to the fic 'Knowing Me, Knowing You' - I simply could not resist.
I also HAD to draw Bill in one of his canonical(?) shirts, just made tank-top'd:
He is absolutely about to over-correct and fall backwards after this. USE YOUR CANE, GOOFBALL!!! (I meant to draw Bill closer to this degree of bottom-heavy in the other images, but. Alas. I am bad at anatomy, LOL)
And, last but not least before More Comic Time, I attempted to draw him closer to Gravity Falls style:
Jury's out on whether or not I succeeded, but - hey. I tried. Now have some Handyman Bill AU, but with my goofy human design, instead:
Hey, it's a 'mystery snack', and the guy wanted A BITE to eat - the joke was right there, guys!!! (Based on this post, because it just screamed BILL CIPHER to me.)
whoops i forgor bills ring and cracks ahaha too late now
I WILL SHUT UP AND STOP RAMBLING NOW K THX BYYYYYE
#fanart#gravity falls#billford#bill cipher#stanford pines#stanley pines#the love god#human bill cipher#human bill design#fashion design#comics#poor stan gets to find out his twin boinked a triangle when the love god shows up at the mystery shack demanding payment LMAO#cue internal panic for stan as dipper and mabel lose their collective shit over the fact that they now have a surprise new grunkle bill#the love god helps himself get paid by teaching the kids how to trap bill in his human vessel for the foreseeable future#bill is bewildered and pissed but also very much 'holy shit i have a FAMILY again??? neat but terrifying??????? what the F*CK do i do now'#he then proceeds to attempt to lovebomb his new family into being okay with the impending apocalypse#all while the three of them attempt to lovebomb HIM into giving up his plans for said impending apocalypse#then two days later ford shows up and is just like. what the ACTUAL F*CK IS HAPPENING???#cue stan immediately screaming 'I HAD TO PRETEND TO BE THAT THING'S HUSBAND FOR TWO DAYS STRAIGHT SO F*CK YOU AND YOUR BAD TASTE FOR THAT!'#stan spends those two days straight dropping very sour hints that he's being punished for someone else's terrible mistakes#bill finds this absolutely hilarious and thus plays along - but not without dropping his own hints that ford is the FAR superior twin#dipper and mabel have ZERO idea of what is actually going on because the love god did NOTHING to clarify the situation#dipper is convinced that stan and bill are speaking in some kind of bizarre code that only adults can understand#mabel is convinced that the code is flirting - which means stan and bill are going to live happily ever after and have tons of kids + pets#NEITHER of them are prepared for ford showing up. not that they were in canon. but still. now it's even MORE crazy#'what do you mean we get TWO NEW GRUNKLES???' 'two grunkles in two days - gotta be some kinda record'#ford then has to decide if he wants to remain justifiably furious at bill or join the other pines in lovebombing him into submission#he then gets to learn that lovebombing bill works surprisingly well because that triangle is just The Biggest Attention Wh*re#the entire AU would just be ridiculous antics with a splash of billford#these tags are an abomination lmao
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the mlvn breakup has the potential to be one of the best scenes in the entire show if it coincides with mikes first time coming out to someone and im SICK of people wanting a meaningless breakup in episode one just so you can skip to byler. does heartwarming platonic love and comfort MEAN NOTHING TO YOU?????!!!!
#i HATE WHEN PEOPLE ACT LIKE THEY DONT CARE ABOUT EACH OTHER AT ALL#THEY DO THEY LOVE EACH OTHER JUST NOT LIKE THAT#THEY LOVE EACH OTHER LIKE STEVE AND ROBIN OR DUSTIN AND EDDIE BUT THEY BOTH FEEL PRESSURED TO ACT LIKE ITS MORE THAN THAT#MLVN DOES SERVE A PURPOSE GUYS NOTHING IN FILM IS EVER UTTERLY MEANINGLESS ESPECIALLY RELATIONSHIPS THAT LAST ALMOST THE ENTIRE SERIES#and it WILL be a heartwarming emotional scene no fucking way theyre just gonna casually break up as if it was some two week fling#i am an elmike stan i think they will be so amazing as friends and i want their break up to be BEAUTIFUL#also again i do not at all think that leaked scene is their breakup#byler#elmike#byler predictions
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As if Bakugou's mid ass basic ass quirk would have made a difference sit the fuck down
#anti bakugou katsuki#ok this one actually pissed me off#compared to decay blueflame and double do mfs really think bakugou's piddly explosions would make any difference#he's literally nothing compared to them#he's an overzealous loud mouthed brat who can't take izuku or shoto at full power#don't compare him to the lov they deserve better#anti bakugou stans#what is with these grown men sucking bakugou all of a sudden#don't attack op#he might be stupid but-
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Solas doesn't hesitate, he exhibits no restraint , he takes and he takes and he takes and he keeps winning anyway. Changes the game, he plays and he raises the stakes. If there's a reason he seems to thrive when so few survive then God damnit I'm willing to wait for it!
I hope I get to kill this guy
#I liked Solas at the beginning but his stans and Bioware favoritism towards him is just so infuriating#You're telling that nothing matters? And you seem to fall for this lazy ass job?#BioWare and EA would never change because they know they can do this kind of thing and fans would just feel the gaps#the HoF being alive or death who is ruling Ozammar who drank the well nothing at all matters#dragon age the veilguard#ohhh but headcanons... This is madness my dude I'm not asking them to remember about Bevin or something like this#anti solas#dragon age veilguard spoilers
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watching nothing much to do (the 2014 webseries adaptation of much ado) and i think benedick being an annoying high school boy that loves doctor who and tells strange metaphorical stories about serial bird murder on his vlog is an A+ adaptation decision
#with all the love in my heart. he feels like someone who stans ten for the wrong reasons#much ado#nothing much to do
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This ask-and-answer was screenshot and somehow ended up on my for you page and I had to clip out the bottom of the answer because I feel worked up about it—probably just being tired and unable to sleep. For context this was part of an ask about what storylines someone didn’t like and also why they think people who just started watching don’t deserve to have opinions.
Something really ironic about this post and how “learning who Buck truly is would no longer allow you the ability to mold him entirely out of your Tommy headcanons” coming from a group that has largely molded both Buck and Eddie completely based on a fanon ship… Very much ship and let ship but the audacity of saying this is insane because if the extreme buddie shippers actually watched the show as well, they’d understand how and why Buck’s relationship with Tommy is so different from all his previous relationships, why it hits differently for Buck and the audience, and exactly why it does feel like it has the potential to be endgame. And literally even if you ignored the entire rest of the series and just watched season 7, it’s still very clear that was the intention?
Also the idea that somehow Tevan shippers have shown up and entirely created this idea that Buck can’t speak for himself and is a damsel in distress as if that’s not a huge part of the buddie scene? People infantilizing Buck is a huge problem but to act like it’s only one side is wild behavior, especially with how in this very answer they say that people who didn’t watch the earlier seasons don’t know why he hates associating with Evan and how it’s disrespectful that Tommy calls him Evan… which if the final few sentences are true and Buck can speak for himself, then wouldn’t we all be in agreement that Tommy continuing to call him Evan was clearly how Buck introduced himself and has never told Tommy to call him anything different? Also, the reason he goes by Buck is literally because there were three Evan's in his fire fighter training? It truly isn’t that deep. And the scene everyone always brings up is how he told his parents to call him Buck… was literally him extending an olive branch to them and saying he’d like for them to get to know him and who he is now?
Sorry have a lot of thoughts tonight and feeling a bit annoyed at the slight uptick in bs extreme buddie stuff on my dash.
#I know nothing is that serious but sometimes when everything else is falling to shit having something meaningless to get upset over helps#seriously the way buddie stans act like they are the only ones who ~get~ the show is incredibly upsetting#I genuinely don’t understand this idea that no one could possible understand Buck the way they do#when I’ve been watching since season 1 and I don’t think they even know Buck at all#evan buckley#911 abc#bucktommy
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lmao they don’t even call Claude and Dimitri fans just that anymore. They’re just Edelgard antis now, because anyone who doesn’t have her as their fave must be a hater
I am going to be completely honest they literally never called us Claude fans Claude fans they always called us Dimitri stans or mooners 😭😭😭 the logical conclusion was always gonna be stripping people of our enjoyment of the game into strictly being people who hate something (read: Edelgard)
#ask#anon#edelgard discourse#just to be safe#no joke my VW rewrite was called “all about Dimitri and Rhea” when Dimitri has nothing change from canon in the rewrite lmao like#i just gave Rhea more importance to Claude's character arc and BOOM - Dimitri stan. mooner#they can't fathom the idea that Claude... could be liked... WITHOUT being a cart for the other two lords to stand on#so of COURSE they were gonna eventually do the same to Dimitri fans too#i'm more surprised it took this long for it to happen lmao
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Honestly whichever Elain week admin decided to create and enforce a rule excluding content featuring disgusting abusers from the series is a saint and I love them. The people who’re mad are just going to have to get over it, these people have relished in making everyone else uncomfortable and miserable for years now. Constantly inserting their backwards perception of the series into positive discussions about literally every single other character.
News flash: the general fandom is exhausted by you. They don’t want to engage with you. They don’t want to see your content. Elain week is going to continue on successful without your abusive awful favs being involved.
#anti tamlin#anti tamlin stans#pro elain archeron#anti tamlain#stop using elain as a tool for redeeming your favorite abusers#let elain stans stan elain in peace#if ur unable to make elain week content without including abusive characters that have nothing to do with her#then maybe you weren’t ever actually interested in appreciating elain at all#why does tamlin need to be prioritized in a week about a character he’s never spoken to?#my posts
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hello and welcome to my chappell roan ted talk
these days, more than ever, i am feeling incredibly disheartened by the treatment of female artists and the deep societal misogyny that it signifies. there is such a vast expanse between this and the typical experience of a male artists, that they have come to occupy an entirely different space in the cultural zeitgeist. male artists are often considered evergreen. allowed to make mistakes, to be rude, to release below average material and be given endless chances, to age, and to have problematic pasts and relationships. (yes, i am generalizing, of course male artists experience mistreatment as well, but generally to a lesser, and less permanent degree. we are talking about women today.)
the experience of a female artist is that of being constantly balanced on a knife’s edge. they are idolized, deified and built up to insanely lofty heights, then one (real or perceived) wrong move and they are viciously turned upon. they are built up almost solely so that they can be delicious to destroy.
we’ve seen this over and over in the past with people like taylor swift, demi lovato, britney spears, katy perry, kristen stewart, miley cyrus, ariana grande etc. (blake lively is a current example.) once they reach a level of overexposure and mass appeal, the vultures begin circling. one bad song, or thoughtless remark, or bad breakup, and they are public enemy #1. even when they do something truly problematic they are not allowed to learn and grow from it as men are. their purpose in society is immediately shifted from entertainment at their charm and success to entertainment at their suffering and demise.
this phenomenon used to be mainly sourced at the hands of media figures. journalists, talk show hosts, gossip sites, magazines. this highly visible upper echelon held all the cards and could sway the public in any direction they pleased in a pre internet monoculture, but now, with the rise of social media, billions of normal people have this power while being safely guarded behind a screen, or even wholly anonymous.
the recent years (and impact of younger generations growing up chronically online) have led to a sort of moral grandstanding, virtue signalling, victorianesque societal revolution. in this space there is no room for error. everything female artists do is taken out of context, twisted, and shamed. they are fully dehumanized and treated like a product belonging to the masses. a subject of discourse more than a person. they are expected to be perfect in every aspect, off the bat, with no room to make mistakes or learn. they need to be knowledgeable in every subject and never ever offend anyone, or do anything to bring anyone, anywhere, anything less than pure satisfaction.
there is no right move a female artist can make. if they take chances to further their career they are calculated, selfish, greedy, competitive. if they are content with the level of success they are at they are lazy, mid, a flop. if they are comfortable with their appearance and body size and aging, they are mediocre, not meant to be famous, a bad influence. but if they alter their appearance in any way they are fake, self obsessed, arrogant, and a bad influence. if they appear perfect, well spoken, kind, and generous then they are liars, manipulators, schemers. but if they appear blunt and not perfectly media trained then they are not cut out for fame, ungrateful, annoying, and spoiled.
( i am aware that i sound like the barbie movie monologue, but that doesn’t change the reality.)
the thing is, there have always been haters, trolls, liars who wanted to instigate the downfall of female celebrities. who couldn’t bear their success and admiration, and just wanted to burn it all to the ground. but today, in this social media generation, the call is often coming from inside the house. so often the ones to turn on famous women and treat them inhumanly, are their own supposed fans. people who are so obsessed with this perfect image that they project onto their fave. who feel so deeply entitled to their time, attention, and recognition that they feel personally slightly and attacked when things don’t go the exact way they want.
let’s take for example, the cancelling of taylor swift’s vienna tour dates.
these shows were cancelled by the venue management, due to a planned terrorist attack that was intended to kill 10s of thousands to 100s of thousands of people. due to the delicacy and danger of this whole situation, taylor swift decided to not mention the incident until after she had finished her european dates and was safely back in the US, as to not further endanger herself, her crew, and her fans.
this caused an unbelievable outrage. people who were both personally affected by the cancellations and those who weren’t, came for her throat. they were furious at her for not talking about it. for not coddling them and telling them how deeply sorry she was. for not grovelling at their feet and self flagellating to make it up to them. once she was back in the states she did in fact release a statement telling everyone how devastated she was over the whole experience and explaining how she felt it was important to stay silent until the right moment to speak on it.
now you’d think this would be enough to assuage the angry mob, but no. they doubled down and declared that it was too little too late, not enough remorse, and that they deserved even more of her attention and repentance. the whole behavior reeked of a desire to chain her to a post and throw bricks until she promises to do better next time and to give everyone their own personal concert and cradle them in her loving motherly arms, to make amends.
and these are supposed to be her FANS. people who were willing to spend hundreds, if not thousands of dollars just to be in the same room as her. just to breathe her air.
now, taylor swift ultimately will be fine (i am talking career wise), she is one of the richest female celebrities in the world. no one can even come close to matching her music sales, fan base, legacy, and broken records. she can lose 10%, 20% of her fan base and still be on top of the world.
but now let’s look at chappell roan.
in the past 6 months or so chappell has rocketed to fame. as someone who has been a fan for ages, this explosion of recognition and admiration was both outstanding to witness, and deeply dread inducing. especially knowing that chappell stands out as a loudly queer artist, who is unique and deeply talented, who is open about her struggle with bipolar disorder and depression, and has no desire to whittle herself down for public consumption. all of this, while incredible and refreshing, was a clear warning sign for what was to come, given the history of female artist reception, even for those who check every box of being publically consumable.
in the past couple weeks there has been a massive wave of both “fans” and those who didn’t even know chappell previously, turning against her for sport. chappell roan released a statement after having nonconsensual interactions with crazed fans, having her family members stalked and doxxed, being yelled at and harassed on the street, and having her personal history, relationships, and childhood mined for exploitative content.
now this behavior may sound familiar. just the typical feral stan behavior that celebs often experience.
but one key factor here is that chappell is brand new to this level of exposure. her fame exploded before her income could from this success, far too suddenly to have taylor swift level security measures set in place around herself and the ones she loves. too sudden for anyone to adapt to their experience of existing in public, online, and even private spaces being permanently altered. she woke up to an entirely new world and had little time to figure out how to move within it without further damaging her own mental health and safety, and likely few people around her who had experienced even close to this caliber of success and could guide her through it. all with no major record label crafting her image or providing pr.
so, the statement. chappell has recently gone on social media and set boundaries for herself. for how she chooses to move within this new world. she has explained the way this rise to fame has impacted her mental health and filled her life with fear and anxiety. she has made her position clear that she is an artist professionally, but a human being when she’s off the clock. her career is just that, a job. an amazing job, yes, but she is still an autonomous person who is allowed to clock out. who is allowed to turn off the character that she puts on for performances, and be left alone when she is not at work.
this includes, (considered most egregious) fans not touching her without permission, coming up to her in public and asking for pictures or autographs, or shouting her legal name at her on the street and taking pictures of her. as well as not harassing the people in her life or sharing her personal information online.
now while these things all sound reasonable, and something any one of us regular folk would expect in our daily lives, this boundary setting is nearly unprecedented for female artists. anyone who has tried has been deemed a cultural blight.
celebrity worship and stan behaviour has lead to an extremely parasocial society.
fans feel it is their god given right to own every aspect of a celebrity. they “deserve” to know every detail of their relationships, their thoughts on politics and events, their secrets and shames and preferences and loves and traumas. they are “entitled” to their time, attention, and endless gratitude, no matter what they are going through or willing to offer up. female celebrities are solely there for the consumption of the general public, they are to be picked apart and chewed up strip by strip. fans “deserve” to touch them, take pictures of them, yell at them, just for a moment of recognition, validation of their obsession, a glimpse of heaven at the alter of their deity. this is just the way it is, has always been, and will always be.
but chappell roan has said NO. no, this is not the way it has to be. just because something has been tolerated in the past, doesn’t mean it’s not wrong. doesn’t mean the future generations need to abide by the tradition of stalking, harassing, and devouring. doesn’t mean that it should be the norm to accept the potential of home invasions, hacking, and assassination attempts.
this simple act of boundary setting has caused an absolute outrage. media publications, other artists, “fans”, haters, and causal media consumers have come with pitchforks and torches to burn her at the stake. they say she is entitled and ungrateful, despite her explaining how deeply grateful she is to all those who support her and also support her privacy. they say she is a nobody and hasn’t earned the right to set boundaries. that society needs to swish her like wine in their mouths and spit her out once they’ve tasted enough, before she’s allowed to say anything other than “thank you thank you i love you i am not worthy”. they say she is not cut out for fame, because this is what fame is and has to be for all female celebrities. they do not get to have autonomy or choice. how absurd that they’d even try, how selfish and greedy and self important to think they deserve it??
of course true fans are going to rock with her no matter what, but chappell is brand new to most. to outsiders she is a face that appeared one day already cemented in a superstar position, and was suddenly unavoidable, confusing, and suspicious. the court of public opinion and the power of negative discourse have a weight to them which can easily overshadow the newfound success of a niche, less easily marketable celebrity like chappell, who has only just gotten her foot in the door.
in the midst of this discourse something else has occurred to deepen the gash of public animosity. chappell roan was given the career and life changing opportunity to perform at the VMAs for millions of people. an opportunity to grow her critical notoriety and fan base, as well as bring queer representation to the live screen, that would be a massive career misstep to pass up on. in accepting this opportunity, chappell was forced to cancel a couple shows that had been planned for a while. she tried to make the situation work for everyone, but ultimately was unable to. she expressed her regret and apologies and assured everyone that she would be rescheduling those shows when she had the chance.
as we have seen with the taylor swift vienna situation, this was NOT going to go down well.
“fans” came after her with a vengeance. they called her selfish, greedy, fake, and wicked for choosing her career growth over their personal experiences. said she was an ungrateful hypocrite for asking the world for space and then choosing the option to be unhumble and promote herself to the masses. the tickets were refunded, but people had CHOSEN to book hotels and fly out to see her in concert and thus blamed her for their financial burden. just as taylor swift “fans” did with the vienna tour dates.
as if chappell roan should be obligated to recoup them for the financial choices they made, and give them the experience they wanted right the fuck now, with the right level of humility, or else be deserving of punishment.
it is understandable for fans to be disappointed that they didn’t receive the experience they hoped for. that the situation was so sticky and immediate that they didn’t have time to cancel plans and grieve the loss. i know when i waited two hours after the opener at sabrina carpenter’s tour last year, just to find out she wasn’t able to perform due to bomb threats, i was heartbroken and angry at the world. i was frustrated with how the situation was handled by management, but i was not angry AT sabrina. i didn’t evicerate her online and demand that she FIX my heartbreak at once. i sat with my feelings and knew that there would be other opportunities, and that
sometimes life isn’t gratifying, no matter how fucking unfair it feels.
it is becoming more and more rare for any degree of understanding and grace to be given to female artists. every success i witness for the artists i appreciate (like this year for sabrina and chappell) fills me with a deep foreboding dread. because they are considered disposable and easily replaceable in this instant gratification, tiktok algorithm generation. everything has to be right now, done perfectly, and hold up to high moral inspection or else they are slotted for obscurity or public crucifixtion.
meanwhile, every aspect of these situations is deemed frivolous by society. they say if you don’t like it, get out and go work at dairy queen, there’s a line waiting behind you who are willing to appease us more. they say that having income from success immediately delegitimizes any social commentary or personal issues. because celebrities are not human beings. they are religious figures. they are both royalty and court jesters. they are toys to be played with ad nauseam, and then discarded.
but why?
why does it have to be this way? why does wanting to share your art with the world mean giving up your safety, privacy, and peace? why is it okay for male celebs to be grumpy and brash and never interact with fans, but it is a cardinal sin for female celebs to do the same or to transparently ask for it? and why is any of this important to you and i, who are barely scraping by and unlikely to ever be famous? why does it matter when these women generally still have some semblance of their careers leftover even after mass disdain?
because all of this is indicative of a greater issue that pervades every aspect of society. it is simply that with famous people we can see it on a macro scale.
all women and femme presenting people are held to the same standard as female celebrities, but on a less publicly visible level. in our careers, our relationships, our expressions of joy, our community and bonds with other women, and our own calcified internal misogyny.
we are here for consumption, we are here for the pleasure and entertainment of others. how dare we ask for more? how dare we know our power and set boundaries for ourselves? how dare we think we deserve a seat at the table, even as we age and grow and expand beyond the bounds of charming ingénue? how dare we collaborate instead of seeing each other as competitors and threats to our own power and beauty and ability to be loved?
how fucking DARE we ever get the idea that we are worth more than our youth and beauty and service to others?
i don’t know how we, as a whole, address any of this when the matter at hand is so deeply pervasive and engrained in the foundation of society. but i, for one, will start by looking at my own role in the treatment of female artists.
i will take the time to ask myself why even the existence of certain figures sparks a feeling of rage within me, and why i feel such a deep desire to know every detail, action, and thought of the artists i appreciate. why i feel joy and satisfaction when female artists i dislike are taken down, or “beat” by someone i prefer. why i let drama that has nothing to do with me alter my perception of art created by people i do not know personally. why my black and white thinking and sense of justice only applies to those who don’t resonate with me on an artistic or personal level.
i will work on finding grace and understanding for those who are trying to grow beyond their mistakes and be better people, the way that i am trying to everyday. those who exist both in the public sphere and in my daily life.
because it’s never too late to rip out the teeth of the bear trap we were born in.
long story short: chappell roan did nothing wrong. but if she ever truly does, all you can do is ask for accountability, then take a breath, get the fuck over it, and see the bigger picture for once
thank you for coming to my ted talk
#enjoy my ramblings i will not be rereading or editing anything i wrote#chappell roan#taylor swift#taylor swift vienna#stan culture#celebrity worship#chappell did nothing wrong#fight me#i do not care if i sound sanctimonious. i am pissed#can you tell i’m on a new adhd medication#no one’s gonna read all this but you should tho
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"It's powerful, it's visceral, it's dark, it's like a Shakespearean tragedy. There’s no Arya — a character everybody's going to love. They're all flawed. They're all human. They do good things. They do bad things. They're driven by lust for power, jealousy, old wounds — just like human beings. Just like I wrote them."
Seeing people debate which grey characters can still be considered "morally good" and somehow Arya never makes the list, so it's the perfect time to bring back this quote from George which shows exactly how he views her character 🫶🏾
#arya stark#asoiaf#george rr martin#it truly couldn't be clearer that he cheats with making her a grey character by having all of her killings be justified but then he#comes outright and says she's different then characters who're flawed + going to do bad things at times 🤷🏾♀️#but then he actually acknowledges her trauma and the things she's been through so that really isn't shocking#ultimately fandom is a very small portion of the fanbase and how they perceive her character doesn't matter#I'd much rather have the same opinions of a character as the author...good thing George is an Arya stan to the core 🤭#if we ever get TWOW people are going to realize their obsession with /purity/ has nothing to do with what George is writing#cause it's obvious people come to these conclusions based on their personal feelings instead of the actual story#the way Arya stans get called delusional for having the same views on Arya as George does...peak comedy#people always want to debate her greyness without looking at the context of her actions which defeats the whole purpose
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in MDZS the novel, the innkeeper in Yunping mentions that people are too scared to go petition Yunmeng Jiang for help because someone once walked in on Sect Leader Jiang whipping a guy in the main hall, supposedly because the guy was a demonic cultivator.
#mdzs#jiang cheng#wei wuxian#jc apologism#anyways as you can hopefully tell by now this is a jc stan blog.#so as a stan i will do my rightful stan duty and insist that my fave did nothing wrong#so. onwards. the “jiang cheng tortures demonic cultivators” claim is interesting on several levels#because we don't see it happen onscreen. and because thematically mdzs is a book about the unreliability of rumors#especially when said rumors conform to your preexisting understanding of someone. or what you want to hear about someone#it would have been so easy for mxtx to include a scene where jc tortures a demonic cultivator onscreen. i would love to read it too#but that doesnt happen. when jc actually corners wwx he just shoves a dog in his face and bullies him emotionally#smh jc get your shit together!! what is this lame ass display?? not living up to your reputation here loser#anyways. tbh i consider two things separately: 1. mxtx's intentions. and 2. what the text itself implies#for 1. i am legitimately unsure of what to think. mxtx relies on rumors/empathy/etc to give us info about side characters#in part because she's constrained herself to writing from wwx's perspective and has no other easy way of getting the info to us#does she intend for us to question the rumors? or are we supposed to take them as fact because of the narration limits described?#2. what the text itself implies is not necessarily the same as what mxtx intends.#for me mdzs is in part a story about the unreliability of rumors and reputation etc etc. other meta writers than i have explained it better#so for the work to go “all the rumors about wwx were exaggerated/manipulated/not 100% correct.”#“but the rumors about everyone else are 100% true!!!!!”#is peak stupidity. and shit-tier writing#and i actually like mdzs so i would like to believe the writer is more intelligent than that#thus. i conclude in part due to this emotional necessity of mine that there must have been something more going on#anyways. i have similar opinions about the “did jiggy kill rusong” business but that's a post for later#ill probably put my jc torture opinions in their own post some day#yanyan polls
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comparing elia martell to princess diana is kinda insane
cause the real princess diana of westeros was rhaegar
#lmao i’m sorry but i just saw the most cray cray post and i wanted to laugh#what did elia do for the common people? did they even like her? she’s loved in dorne but in the rest of westeros? she barely mentioned#the fact that diana created this approachable image & had so many charities under her belt is why she was so loved#rhaegar singing to the commoners == dany helping her sick subjects == diana shaking hands with people with aids#tbh charles and diana’s story should actually once again remind people that arranged marriages fucking suck for both individuals involved#i do not like charles at all but it’s not his fault that he didn’t love diana 🤷♀️#i’m just so suprised by the absurdity of trying to compare charles and camilla to rhaegar and lyanna#asoiaf fandom critical#anti elia stans#rhaegar targaryen#rip prince rhaegar the silver prince who’s still so beloved by the common folk 💔#im here to fight for rhaegar’s honor#i’ll call him the peoples prince 😂#asoiaf#to be serious for a sec: i hate these surface level takes. it completely strips the text of any nuance and context#this nuance and context is so important bc it is key to understanding the themes and underlying messages of the text#but instead people wanna compare aesthetics. which is fine and fun. but theres nothing in the text that even hints-#-that any of these characters can be directly paralleled to these modern royals.#my silver prince 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
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Spider fan-artists after creating a yet another heartbreaking piece that explores his numerous traumas, relationships and tough upbringing (they also draw other Sullies fairly often):
Neteyam fan-artists after making an art or a comic where Neteyam A. Is dead or 2. Cries a little bit and is comforted by Aonung for the bazillionth time (their biggest fear is diving into another complex character because “ew Tarzan”):
#listen I love neteyam#he’s such a pookie#have nothing against him at all#but Netyam stans are hands down some of the worst people I’ve ever met in this fandom#topped only by RDA defenders#you think your skrimblo would be proud of you death-threating a teenage human kid?#or calling Spider an animal/dog/pet because he has NA’VI MANNERISMS?? THE SAME ONES NETEYAM DOES????#you think he wouldn’t smack you into another dimension for calling his mannerisms ANIMALISTIC?#also why do so many Neteyam fan-artists draw him in a world where Spider doesn’t exist 🧍#like he straight up doesn’t and that takes so much depth out of every other Sully#you idiots also make Neteyam flatter because he doesn’t have an antithesis#‘b-but Lo’ak’ Spider does that much better. He is opposite to Teyam in every way#and yet they also have their insane kindness#loyalty and bravery in common#holy shit how the fuck are y’all sleeping on this??#atwow#atwow fanart#atwow neteyam#neteyam sully#Neteyam atwow#avatar neteyam#atwow spider#spider atwow#spider socorro#avatar spider#avatar 2#avatar the way of water#spider avatar
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