#not to overhype the scene lmao

[theravenlyn-art]

she was like an angel to me

[procrastinatingattorney]

seeing bad 3//h characters takes fueling my motivation to write fic lmao

[johaerys-writes]

Because I’m new here and I’m nosy… How’d you end up in Achilles fandom lol what was your journey! 🥹

Honestly idk that I can call it much of a journey haha.... basically I got TSOA back in 2020 and in classic Jo fashion I had it sitting on my shelf for a couple months while I waited for the right mood to hit, and then it was summer and I was at home bored so I was like, "hm let's see what this is about? I doubt it's gonna be good, probably overhyped" and then I read the first page and I was HOOKED. Like I remember reading the first paragraph and thinking "oh shit.... this is going to fuck me up huh" and then I kept reading and I couldn't put it down, and 2 days later I was a mess of a human being, I just remember lying in bed crying my eyes out wondering wtf am I supposed to do with my life now lmao???? Immediately after finishing the book I started jotting down little notes and scenes and exchanges, and started publishing those on AO3 and the rest is history. That book literally rewired my brain overnight and I've never been the same since🥲

Then a couple years later I started reading the Iliad, and then I played Hades, and then I kept looking for more works with Achilles and Patroclus and that's what I'm still doing now. Hyperfixation still going strong haha 💙

[maned-dog]

Couldnt watch a movie last night cause of ~wifi issues~ so day 13 is another double feature

Terrifier 3 • Green Room

Terrifier 3 - people were NOT lying when they said they threw up at this movie 😭 the kid scenes were a bit overhyped imo, Possessor gave a kid a waaay more brutal exit while in this movie the kid kills were very quick or off screen...the shower scene tho...Jesus fucking christ I shouldn't have been eating lmao

Art is as fun as always and it's nice to have gotten more backstory for him, sienna is a GREAT final girl and honestly I'm happy to see this franchise go mainstream

8/10 :3

Green room - uhhhh don't have much to say abt this one tbh ! I mean it was well made and written and I liked all the characters, some nice gory moments. Rlly nice watch:3

7/10

[vanmarkus]

i'll go easy on you. 25. and 21.

hii sonny~ 🤭💛

25. common fandom complaint that you're sick of hearing

i'm trying to be non-ship specific here because that'd be a list too long to pick only one from lmao but i have to say people crying about anyone being out of character immediately when they don't like a storyline.

like, i'm so sorry to say this but it's 1) pretty impossible to be out of character in canon (it might be inconsistent characterisation and the reasons for that vary, but if it's in canon, well...) and 2) somehow it's always something that we have seen the characters do in like season 1 or 2 during their establishing seasons...

i guess i just don't like when people are complaining without logic just cuz they can't simply say "i didn't like this" and move on

21. part of canon you think is overhyped

i'm not sure? i feel like there are more things that are either underhyped or a wild misinterpretation is the one that's overhyped and read too much into rather than the actual canon happenings...

but i will say that things in teasers are usually the ones that spark an incredibly quick escalation of meta that 99% of the time turn out to be either totally off-base or nowhere as important as the fandom made it out to be (just like Buck's raccoon eyes in the s7 teaser or the deleted bachelor party scene that was, well... just a bachelor party scene without anything more to it)

🔥 choose violence ask game 🔥

[alrightsnaps]

All the polin fans complaining about Penelope and Colin "not being protagonists in their season" in the Bridgerton ig are they for real?

Are they still at it? I checked out shortly after part 2 was released but I did hear something about them signing a deleted sex scenes petition lmao

The whole thing is so ridiculous, especially after two years of gaslighting kathony fans for calling out the show's sidelining of them, Kate in particular. When season 2 premiered they wouldn't stop yapping about Bridgerton being an "ensemble show" to justify the excessive screen time given to Penelope's family or the disproportionate amount of promo their faves got.

There is a grain of truth about the show noticeably shifting from romance to ensemble drama after season 1 but when we called it out back in season 2 we were being bitter and jealous lmao.

Even so, the irony of seeing polin stans say that "Penelope and Colin were treated like secondary characters in their own season!!" is insane. Kate and Anthony didn't even have a poster of their own for season 2, while Penelope (a side character) got herself a solo poster. Then on her own season she was again at the centre of all the promotional photoshoots. Kate and Anthony got together in the last 3 minutes of the show and had an off screen wedding. Penelope and Colin got handed a grand wedding and a baby in the epilogue (before the audience ever got to see Kathony as parents). Simone and Jonny weren't allowed to do any interviews on their own or have a couple photoshoot. Nicola and Luke were handed a world tour and multiple photo-ops to promote season 3 and were heavily promoted throughout season 2 as well.

I don't know if their fans are still at it, but I remember when part 1 came out how mad they were at Francesca (who literally had less lines than Penelope's sisters in s1 and s2 combined) finally having a subplot of her own. You know...like every single Bridgerton sibling minus Hyacinth and Greg have had since the show premiered? They didn't seem to have a problem when Penelope was a supporting character with her own sidedarc for Kate and Daphne's seasons, but Francesca finally being on screen was an issue cause she outshined Penelope in s3!

At the end of the day they're just pressed their ship never captured the audience's attention the way every other Bridgerton couple (spinoff included) has, inspite of the lengths the production went into to promote and overhype them. Kate and Anthony were robbed at every turn, both story and promo wise, and managed to carry the season and become fanfourites nonetheless. Polin got everything handed to them and were still extremely underwhelming. No amount of sex montages will manufacture chemistry between the leads or charisma for your cringe male lead.

[officialleotolstoy]

1, 18 and 21. Burn the wap fandom alive baby

1. The character everyone gets wrong:

I already talked about Pierre in my other answer, so I’m going to go with a weird pair of characters: Marya B and Anatole. With Marya B, people love to just turn her into a soft girl cottagecore lesbian stereotype character and ignore all of the nuance she has. She helped essentially run the estate when her father was dying and whipped everyone into shape when no one else stepped up. She basically raised Nikolushka for her absent brother. She was relieved her father was dying and felt horribly guilty about it. She helps out people down on their luck out of the goodness of her heart even though her family disapproves. She’s so much more than just a cute sweet girl that can be dismissed because she’s “soft” and “boring”. She can be soft AND strong AND interesting.

As for Anatole, everyone treats him like he’s either a haha silly stupid guy who just makes mistakes and doesn’t think and infantilizes him to excuse his actions like he’s not a grown adult man OR treats him like some evil mastermind heartbreaker who just wants to hurt people. He is neither of those things. He’s too stupid to be actively manipulative but he’s also too self absorbed to care if anyone gets hurt while he pursues what he wants. He’s not innocent and naive but he’s not calculated either. His major problem is that he is horribly horribly selfish. He’s the worst and I hate him forever still of course

18. It’s absolutely criminal that the fandom has been sleeping on…

My usual answer is Vera Rostova, but it seems there’s been a bit of a revolution around her recently. Not really sure what’s going on in Veraland but I salute you all. So I’m changing my answer to Boris! He is one of the guys ever and we need to talk about him more. He’s ambitious he’s driven he’s a mommy’s boy he wrote his wife emo poetry and doesn’t even like her anyway. He’s friends (or something…) with Hélène. The guy ever

Also Petya!!! He’s sooo interesting as a parallel to Nikolai and a tragic cautionary tale about idealizing war. The scene between him and that young French prisoner of war haunts me forever

21. Part of canon you think is overhyped:

I want to say the philosophy rants but NO ONE is hyping that up lmao. I’m going to go with the bear cop river thing. Don’t get me wrong I love that bit but people talk about it like its a whole volume of misadventures when it’s literally mentioned once in passing

[crescentpaws]

the character everyone gets wrong

a compelling argument for why your fave would never top or bottom

screenshot or description of the worst take you've seen on tumblr

what was the last straw that made you finally block that annoying person?

worst discord server and why

which ship fans are the most annoying?

what character did you begin to hate not because of canon but because how how the fandom acts about them?

common fandom opinion that everyone is wrong about

worst part of canon

worst part of fanon

number of fandom-related words you've filtered

the unpopular character that you actually like and why more people should like them

worst blorboficiation

that one thing you see in fics all the time

that one thing you see in fanart all the time

you can't understand why so many people like this thing (characterization, trope, headcanon, etc)

there should be more of this type of fic/art

it's absolutely criminal that the fandom has been sleeping on...

you're mad/ashamed/horrified you actually kind of like...

part of canon you found tedious or boring

part of canon you think is overhyped

your favorite part of canon that everyone else ignores

ship you've unwillingly come around to

topic that brings up the most rancid discourse

common fandom complaint that you're sick of hearing

Answer all of em!!!!

(For KOTLC or any fandom that you really wanna do)

LMAO ok… if you insist ☝️ (dashes are for questions i’ve already answered)

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2. still no comment on this one.

3. idk i can’t rlly remember any awful takes off the top of my head LMAO. haven’t even been here that long so

4. bold of you to assume i remember anyone i block

5. i don’t use rlly discord (wow these answers are so exciting)

6. sokeefe for SURE and i don’t think anyone can disagree with me on this

7. already answered but i need to say it again. KEEFE. maybe i’d like him a bit more if some people didn’t make literally EVERYTHING about him (also if people stopped commenting “this looks like keefe” on my art)

8. once again using this as an opportunity to spread my short haired fintan propaganda. that guy would not be able to maintain long hair. he’d accidentally burn it off or something. also dex is not a cinnamon roll. marella is bisexual, not a lesbian. king dimitar is irrelevant to me and the bit is sometimes annoying. alden is not abusive. fitz is not manipulative. keefe is not mature enough for a relationship with sophie. (+ princess purryfins is the size of a goldfish, not a full-sized cat! vertina is literally only a head, she does not have a body!)

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10. sokeefe vs sophitz. like we’re not getting anywhere by arguing about this why don’t we all just take a deep breath and calm down a bit

actually i guess that’s more the fandom itself ummm idrk i hate how some of y’all demonize characters for the stupidest reasons (just being silly btw don’t take any of this too seriously)

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13. dex honestly. tam too but personally i’ve seen it happen with dex wayyy more

14. i don’t read fics 😜👍 can’t ever find ones that sound interesting

15. people forgetting to draw the registry pendants 😢 guys give them back their pretty little necklaces

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19. honestly no idea… i’ll get back to this one

20. again, the love triangle. also pretty much all of stellarlune LMAO. i swear most of that book was just them talking about stuff they were going to do instead of actually doing it 💀 also shannon was pushing the kenric / oralie agenda way too hard in that book tbh like guys kenric is dead literally nothing can come out of this. it’s irrelevant and i don’t care!!!

21. keefe 😊👍 again. does not deserve all that hype

22. fintan on the other hand….. also the peace summit scene is under appreciated it’s so funny (as well as every other fintan scene tbh)

23. gonna be so real back in 2019/2020 i was a hardcore believer of aroace fintan and i hated pretty much every fintan ship so. old me would be horrified to know what my current favorite ship is. (still basically hate every other fintan ship tho LMAO)

24. once again sokeefe vs sophitz lmao 💀 or honestly just fitz vs keefe. we do not need to be doing this guys.

25. “dex on the cover!” “dex needs more page time!” WRONG! we need more marella page time. we need another marella cover!! we need more fintan page time!!!!!!!!!

[sanct1f1ed]

hi so you're our gravity falls mutual. should we rewatch it yes or no and if yes Why. pls feel free to infodump abt it tbh like we barely remember anything abt the show except that bill Exists lmao

YES EYTS YTES YES YES JHAHAJAHAA YESS!!!!!!! YESSSSS

OK OK so. PLEASE. it would be so awesome. it would be so cool. (reference). if y'all rewatched the show. at first when i was starting to rewatch it i was really nervous that i overhyped it in my brain and it would be Just Some Kid's Show that nostalgia caused me to misremember but it's GENUINELY FANTASTIC. and the foreshadowing & dedication to continuity really stands out!!! like there's a credits scene in S2 where stan cuts his hand open on something and then in the episode immediately after his hand is STILL BANDAGED. or any time in S1 where the brothers' different style in glasses is pointed out (where stan finds ford's glasses in the electron carpet episode and stares at them, or in the time travel ep where mabel & dipper briefly go back to the mystery shack pre-Stanification) OR EVEN DETAILS AS BASIC AS ALL THE HIDDEN BILLS IN THE DESIGN OF THE MYSTERY SHACK.

the first season is free on youtube and we have HD copies of both seasons in case y'all need those. LAUGHS EVILLY. i mean normally. this show is so good

[farfromdaylight]

OH I AM SORRY somehow i completely did not see that you had already answered some of these lmao. anyway have some more: 9, 16, 20, 21

NO NO i got a bunch at the same time and answered them together, you just happened to double up! not ur fault at all. THANK U FOR SENDING MORE, i shall tl;dr below!

9: worst part of canon

god i could answer this for so many series, i am always full of salt about Bad Canon.

can i say "most of zero time dilemma?" i know this isn't final fantasy but oh my god, what the fuck was uchikoshi smoking on this one. i thought it was okay but not great when i played through it the first time. when @shepherdtostars played through the series she streamed VLR and ZTD for me and man, ZTD does not fucking hold up lol. like all three games have their low points (especially in gameplay/mechanics/traversal but i'm solely speaking about story here). ZTD's conclusion to the series is fucking stupid at best.

to be slightly more on topic, i have not thought dirge of cerberus was good since i was a teenager with no taste and no understanding of Decent Storytelling and Characterization. (and even then i could recognize some shit was garbage, lmao.)

16: you can't understand why so many people like this thing (characterization, trope, headcanon, etc)

my gut answer for this is zenos, lmao. i think @anneapocalypse summed up a lot of it in her similar response (i'm on mobile rn or i'd link). i think zenos is fine in stormblood itself and his ultimate ending at the close of 4.0 is fantastically done, ties together the narrative themes, etc.

i don't feel that way about endwalker. i don't think it's earned. i struggle with it to the point that i am going to replay stormblood (i haven't replayed it since 2020) and really dig into how i feel about it for my wol's story, then extrapolate from there for an ending that makes sense for endwalker. like i'm genuinely stuck on my 80% complete endwalker fic due to The Zenos Problem.

here's the thing, i don't hate his character trope? ennui is fine for a villain motivation and it ties into the themes of uncaring imperalism that stormblood puts forward. by contrast, i really disliked how zenos carried forward after that in the story. fandaniel didn't work for me. EW zenos didn't work for me. i have no desire to replay endwalker but i've reread and rewatched the scenes enough that i don't think it'll ever really work for me.

which is fine. i know i'm supposed to be choosing violence in this meme but it's fine that This Specific Storyline didn't click. there's a lot else i like instead.

20: part of canon you found tedious or boring

FF14 is too easy an answer for this. I love the game but it has some dead boring story and gameplay structure for MSQ. i have nothing against the character (i thought she was fine) but "speak with wuk lamat" illustrates the problem perfectly no matter how you feel about her. you need variance in the actual gameplay of telling your story, or it becomes too obvious to the player.

it works fine in visual novels and in many ways FF14 is very similar to that medium, but... it's not. it's a RPG. FF14 can't really do much of interest with this kind of thing due to the nature of its setup. i don't expect the kind of genuine exploration and discovery you get in other RPGs from it because it's linear by design. but please hide the bones of the structure so i can focus on enjoying the game.

21: part of canon you think is overhyped

final fantasy vii rebirth dev. square enix

lmao.

i really wish i'd liked it. in so many ways i should have liked it. it clearly, CLEARLY worked for many people. but it didn't work for me. remake was solidly middle of the road, but rebirth? good god, what is nojima smoking these days. why is aerith singing. why is zack here. what the fuck is that ending.

sigh.

[vampuppyy]

hi cheren <3 cant fit this all in a comment so. to be simple and frank. its bc this guy fucking sucks

to be a bit more serious tho. the way he shows the heroine ( lili !! ) love is Very interesting i guess ? like at the start of his route. he kidnaps lili and doesnt rlly like have an attachment or anything to her, but theres this one scene i always think of where hes basically like "u dont have to like me or your current situation, but u still have to eat to preserve ur strength" or like. soemthing like that i forget what he says exactly. hes so interesting.

anyways later on as their relationship develops ( if u dont fuck up and either get lili killled in numerous ways or i remmeber there was like. a sex bad ending LOL ) he gets like ? hilariously possessive of her and starts telling her stuff like. if u leave me ill find u and kill u and lili is like. ok ♡ yay ♡

but then she gets kidnapped again by the "good guys" i guess. the ones who were supposed to protect her in the first place ( forgot to mention this but theyre all mafia so ? i say good with like. a huge side eye ) and yang comes for her and i cant rmbr the scene exactly. but he basically promises to ? get her back LOL and theres this whooole fight a little bit later where yang fights the other mafia head and like. this scene goes two ways depending on ? your like um. special stat and love stat i forget what it was called for him ugh. and he can either Actually save lili or use her as a sacrifice to kill the other mafia head. its something for sure. theres even a whole cg of him stabbing thru her to get to the other mafia head LOL . anyways if lili gets killed theres actually one more scene where yang is seen sleeping with some random lady but then thinks abt how its not lili and actually kinda regrets killing her . lmao

and i forget where scene plays but theres a part where theres a conflict at Another mafias base and like. lili is abt to get killed but yang instictively protects her ? and gets killled instead. there is a cg of him getting stabbed as well.

anwyays i realize mmc is not like. killing or getting people killed but its just this very unsettling way of how yang processes his emotions and love for lili that kinda just reminds me of him. also bc i think hes a bit overhyped. no offense to either of the guys i get the appeal i guess but ehhh. you know ALSO I HAVE NO IDEA IF THIS MAKES SENSE. theyre just kinda the same vibe to me ???

takes notes takes notes...... by god i love men who are just kinda horrible and shitty all around i hope he dies ♡ putting him in a jar and shaking it arounddd !!!!!!

[shi-daisy]

Wanna see the world burn so 🔥 Tamsand for the ship ask!

Lmao anon you want my beasties to be appalled? Cuz it'd be the odd one out but ok!

Send me a 🔥 and a ship and I'll tell you what I think of them

Short answer? NOTP, I hate it, squick, I have the tagged blocked

Longer answer. While the Canon dynamic with Tamlin and Rhysand's past is interesting and you can make tragic fics with the both as friends or as past lovers, and I do think Rhysand is a little too obsessed with bothering Tammy baby I hate the idea of these two as a couple unless it's a bad end.

There's a few reasons. The simple one is that I hate Rhysand enough to stick him in The Rack from Saw 3 (Don't look that shit up if you're grossed out by heavy gore) with absolutely no remorse and the idea of paring this overhyped asshat bat with my favorite character makes me gag (Same could be said for other Rhysand ships like Feysand, Rhysta, Rhycien, etc)

Another one would be that I hate giving this dude attention. Any acotar merch is made for him and his bat boys. There's literally no Feyre merchandise in Hot Topic all of it it's him, even tho she's supposed to be the MC. I'm so so very sick of him hoggin page time and arcs from the other of infinitely more interesting characters. So when I look for fic if Tamsand or Rhysand are prominent I tend to scroll past even if it's an author I like.

Finally and the heaviest reason for my deep-seated hate of this ship it's one specific scene in ACOFAS. You know the one.

The scene in the novella where Rhysand goes to Spring sees the desolate state of the Court, of Tamlin, of the man who saved him despite their hate for eachother and just goes of on him and tells him to die. It's absolutely disgusting and triggering that I had to throw the thing away and go puke.

After that I can't ship those two in any way shape or form, even if it's an AU where their faling out never happened I just can't get past that scene. Having been in Tamlin's suicidal state once years ago it would disgust me if anyone suggested I get with a person who pushed me down during that time which thankfully for me that didn't happen, but if it had I would've cut ties with them. I can't get over it and just decided to block it out

There are plenty of multishipper creators and even friends of mine who've dabbled in it but I stay the hell away from that ship even if whatever they're in is expertly made. I can't get past the dynamic they have in canon, and my Rhysand hate and the suicide bait scene. If I want Tamlin x another male character I can get that with Tamcien, Tamris, Tamquin and even Tamlin x KoH. Rhysand is the last character I would ever want more content for.

Also call me vanilla but the whole 'bffs/ exes who are torn apart by war' isn't a trope I like much. It's good for certain pairs but not a thing I go for. Hell if I don't care for it with Optimus Prime x Megatron where I love both characters and their falling out is far more balanced, tragic and believable why would I care for it between my fave and the dude I hate and it only being tacked on for Sarah to woobify the shitlord and throw more dirt on Tamlin? It really isn't my cup of tea.

Hope this answers your question, anon!

[musclesandhammering]

i just got to what if s2 and why did they have to do that little weird w4nd4/loki bit 😭 it was so meaningless, is that like dog bone for shippers

I think it was like partially a reference to the recent comic issue where they’re dating, partially because they’re like the top two fan favorite characters right now, and partially just to throw a crumb to the fans who’ve been begging to have them onscreen together for years now. But yeah… definitely not my favorite 😬 lmao

Honestly, though, I’m kinda glad that- if anything- they’re establishing them (ish??) as friends. Because if they had them on opposite sides fighting each other- with marvel’s history of nerfing Loki & overhyping Wanda- I know damn well they’d have her beat his ass.

Like the plot armor would be so insane. They’d have a full 7 minute scene of just her doing all kinds of magic stuff while he throws knives and flips his hair. Which is unrealistic and insulting and would just.. send me over the fucking edge 🙂.

So yeah. I don’t like it, but as long as they’re not actively pushing the ‘Wanda solos’ agenda, I don’t hate it either.

[sturnioloshacker]

It's so overhyped and apparently there's like this no consent kink and the idea of that makes me feel violently ill tbh

Like I'm not a bitch I'm not gonna kink shame but genuinely that makes me feel ill

And like gun play knife play blood play all of it makes me feel sick

And the tw for the second book is detailed rape which makes me wanna literally throw myself out a window for obvious reasons

What's scary aswell is its like I'm reading a rape scene and my dad has done this to people wtf (idk if I've told u allat shit) but its insane LMAO

oh my 😳

[lottieurl]

ok so just to get it out of my system before i process it all and lose my mind abt the rest. what i Am nitpicky about in 2x02 is:

tai's whole issue with shauna being the MAKEUP????? like girl that is by far the least fucked up thing shauna is doing. and in like. regular society that's what we DO to corpses for open casket funerals. like it's not even WEIRD especially in comparison to the rest of shauna's behavior. and i absolutely do see how tai is sort of projecting like she's very disturbed by her own behavior so then shauna - who she became very close to after crash - acting like she's also really losing it is scary for her and she lashes out cause she doesn't know how else to help. that makes sense! but it's just a bit. anticlimactic. and i feel like they overhyped the makeup scene. regardless of whether they were gonna make it more or less ambiguous whatever complicated feelings there were between them (which like. i am probably the only one not surprised by how it went. shauna's is in no way aware that there may have been any gay feelings there lmao as a dumb bitch who thought wanting my best friend to kiss me was me wanting to Be her this in no way goes against what i think of this dynamic and character) i still do think there was a way to make that more uhhh intimate and like. emotional in a way. idk

not a huge fan of all the focus on travis and the lottietravisnat thing and adult misty's whole deal with frodo. like. that could have been a woman. i am so sorry but is jeff not enough in terms of goofy/quirky men? I DON'T CARE. i'd like to see nat and lottie have a connection beyond whatever the hell is going on with travis especially cause nat is notoriously being kept apart from the girls in 96 and so much of her arc is about men. and it makes sense! there's a lot that's interesting there but i do watch this show for female characters and the various dynamics between them so. fingers crossed for lottienat. which reminds me! lets sideline jeff for a while so i can see whatever the hell shauna and callie have going on. i love a messed up mother daughter relationship lets go

also sucks they skipped over so much of shauna's forest pregnancy cause i hoped she'd have an Interesting fucked up relationship with her body and pregnancy and they would use it for horror some more but it appears not :(

[struggle-but-its-all-ocean-floor]

Hello! Have you watched or are you going to watch the kdrama Begins Youth, which is based on the HYYH universe? I'm curious about your opinion. Personally, I really like it, they chose good actors who really have a lot in common with the bts members, especially the character playing Hosu has the same facial expressions as JHope, he is very convincing. sometimes the scenes are too long and tedious, as are the dialogues, but that's probably the nature of kdramas.

Hi!

No, sorry, I haven't watched it... I've never cared for HYYH era... To me, BTS being characters in their own albums and MVs is just weird? It's like fanfiction, but Hybe profits from it lmao. This is one of the things I don't get about kpop.

I've seen some gifs from the drama, but so far I don't see the similarities between the boys and the characters/actors. But, again, I've only seen a few gifs, mostly of Jikook.

I've been hearing a lot that the actors act like the members though.

And yes, long, flowery dialogue and dramatic crying are kdrama staples.

I was actually thinking - seeing the popularity of HYYH and now this drama - that the way Army interpret some of the dynamics between the members seems to be pretty influenced by HYYH? This is more conjecture than anything, since I'm not that familiar with the BU and became Army in 2019, but half of the fascination with Yoonkook, for example, seems to come from HYYH era. I keep seeing Army talk about BU Yoonkook and the lack of them in the drama, and a lot of Yoonkook moments people talk about are HYYH related.

I know Yoonkook are cute, but I was just thinking that HYYH was really influential in the fandom. But maybe I'm very off base. I don't get the BU at all... And I'm also not accusing you of mixing fantasy with reality or trying to make you feel bad about liking the drama! I just see Army talk about BU a lot.

Unrelated, but on the topic of mixing fantasy with reality, one of the most frustrating things about this fandom is the absurd amount of misinformation from Armys who think a popular account's shitpost or take on a members' words from 10 years ago is the absolute truth. Like, I get that Jungkook had a crush on RM - whether in a hero worship or romantic sense - but it's so ridiculous the way people talk about Namkook! Army reduce most BTS dynamics to stereotypes (with the exception of Jikook who are just ignored lmao) and greatly overhype some popular ships like Sope (imo). I read Jikook fanfiction so I see this all the time. The members and their dynamics are so often reduced to stereotypes and jokes that half the shit on twitter is already fanfiction. We'll never truly know the members, but half of this fandom doesn't even pay attention to actual content.

Sorry for rambling. I wanted to give you a long answer but since I didn't watch the drama I had to make shit up.

Thanks for the ask!