#not timsteph but i dont care if you tag as ship

[thebat-musicman]

Tim: *pacing around the room and lecturing about Blue Beetle*

Steph: …have you been tested for autism

[sea-owl]

Ok guys can we not cherry pick super powered individuals when it comes to the batfam. It's either all or none.

(Sidenote: I don't have issues with others who ship dickbabs or really any batfam ship, I personally ship timsteph myself, but there is some things I'm seeing that I need to talk about)

If you want to know where I'm mainly coming from it's Starfire and her kids with Dick Grayson. I've seen people toss Kori to the side while gladly taking her children and to the extreme stripping both Mari and Jake of their powers and any physical genetics that are not Dick's, mainly their eye color, just to get rid of any sign of their mother. That's disrespectful to all three, Kori for obvious reasons, Mari is so much more like her mother so that erasers a lot of her character, and Jake had a whole series about his developing powers and accepting that part of himself, the part that is his mother.

Now I am used to the issue of how the bat writers loves to downplay and make Kori out to be a slut, I'm used to them disrespecting her. I'm used to how the bat writers hate any interaction outside of the pseudo incest going on in the batfam, even though their interactions with "outsiders" sometimes feel the most natural. (Possibly because some effort was put in but that's another post) I've seen story, this I'm unsure if its from a bat writers but it is part of the issue, where Kori completely abandons her son with Dick for years just because she was pissed at Dick. Hell now that I'm thinking about it we don't even get to see her interact all that much with Mari either outside of a flashback or two, because they kill her off.

You gonna look me in the eye, actually knowing Starfire's character and say she'll abandon her child willingly? Absolutely the fuck not. I can see her leaving Dick's ass, we know she's got the strength to do it if she felt that's what needs to be done, but her child? Hell no, she would take that child with her.

All this, is the disrespect I expect from the writers, because they are dispresectful to Starfire just because she's not their creation and out their control. This is why I will always think of her children to be part of the Tameranean family first before the batfam

But the fandom? I expect a hell of a lot more from all of you. From the people who take back and do the characters more justice than the writers we need to step it up with how the extended batfam is treated. And I say extended batfam because that is what it is. Starfire and her children are extened memebers to the batfam, Kori has more then earned her place from being foil to Dick to legitimately being something whether a friend, teammate, possible maternal figure to the other male robins, and most of you have accepted her children.

So why are they constantly disrespected like this? There two main ones that I have seen, one is the whole no powers in Gotham, which can we throw out the window now? We have the supesfam in there so often that Bruce has Clark patrol Gotham on his own when he's away, not to mention all the team ups. The second reason is when I stumble across a fic or idea like this there is usually a dickbabs tag in it, and it usually entails Kori being dead or running away while Barbara fills the "motherly figure". I've seem this include Mari and Jake being ashamed and scared of their powers which in my opinion should give more reason to have Kori there, who knows their powers better than anyone. What's the batfam gonna do when two kids start using powers that none of them really have an understanding of pass baseline? Bruce would have a cow, and what call the supesfam? Guys no, don't do that. Those are Kori's kids with Dick, who in both stories she was married to. If you want a kid for dickbabs make an OC child, dont steal other people's children. Be respectful to them, that's all I really want, if you want your ship go ahead but if you include Mari and Jake you have to acknowledge their mother and that side of them. They are dickkory kids and I understand that not everyone cares for the ship, but be respectful. At the end of the day Kori's genes were strong enough to pass on her powers and by definition her children are batfam members.

At the very least let Dick and Kori co-parent two wonderful kids.

[thebat-musicman]

Tim, waiting in a slightly longer lunch line than normal: This is the worst moment of my life.

Steph: You’re an orphan.

Tim: And?