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fumifooms · 4 months ago

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Dungeon lord Chilchuck

What would his wish as a dungeon lord be? What would he be like? Headcanons & speculation post for fun. But I’ll start with analytic lead up because that’s always fun for me, though feel free to skip and skim.

When it comes to what Chilchuck’s dungeon lord desires could/would be like we have mainly 3 hints: His nightmare, his succubus and what the winged lion says to him.

Why: — From what we see nightmares are based on the person’s worst fears and insecurities, both Laios’ and Marcille’s nightmare were closely tied to their dungeon lord wishes (Laios’ dream monster being summoned to crush the ghosts of relationships that represented the pressure to fit in and belong, Marcille seeking control over death and aging through magic to avoid loss), the fuel behind their desire/goal if you will. Fear and deep-seated desires are seemingly closely tied, something also supported by Thistle and Mithrun’s reigns as dungeon lords (Thistle proving his worth through fulfilling his given duty + protecting his loved ones, being listened to instead of having to listen, Mithrun escaping rigid two-faced elven society and living in a wonderland where he has no enemies and he’s loved, free from everyone he knew yet propped up by the person symbolizing his brother being chosen over him, the bastard child).

— I’ve talked about the significance I assign to the succubi often by now, but rundown: What we see of each character is all very telling if you care to listen, it shows not only someone’s "ideal form" but what they want from it. Izutsumi’s is familial, offering a hug and comfort, Marcille’s is romantic with a character she knows and loves, offering a kiss on a hand and a connection regardless of how distant it actually is, and Laios’ is platonic, arguable at first but then Laios’ fear of judgement is placated and he is offered the picture perfect friend group that accepts his interest (if you want my full look at Laios’ succubus go here). They take on the most alluring form, most ideal person of their victim, even uncovering deep subconscious desires, so precisely and effectively to the point it leaves victims physically frozen before the object of their desire. Succubi and the demon are themselves tied in lore and it’s easy to see how similar their core skill are. Succubi don’t give a good idea of what a character would wish for on their own but they certainly give hints on what they crave, regardless of how you want to read it.

— Last bit is self-explanatory. To placate Chilchuck and win his compliance over, the monster that reads your soul like an open book offers to give him something specific. But! It’s also important to remember that the lion isn’t offering to fulfill Chilchuck’s dream world wish here, it’s a second prize, because his goal with what he promised Laios is that they’d stay in this world, away from everyone and everything else. Chilchuck wants to get away but is kept back, and it’s here the lion placates him with "hey it’s okay! You can’t do that but I can still give you this! This is enough right? It’ll make everything easier on you".

What each bit says: — Long version in another post. Tldlr: His daughters and family are obviously important to him, and this reinforces that he takes on the role of protector a lot, he’s constantly worried for his party members’ lives and implicitly his family’s. Safety and stability, both economical and otherwise, are his core values and goals, and he berates both others and himself if someone fails on those fronts. Here, there’s the fear of not being enough, of not having been able to protect, and of course of loss.

— Chil’s succubi are obviously sexual, and not only that but agressively and straightforwardly so. It’s not like Marcille’s where there’s personality involved, all they do is give him sultry looks and pretty smiles before jumping on him. His succubi aren’t like Izutsumi’s, always the same exact person and appearance, so it’s not someone but an appealing general idea. The idea of a sexual being he can regard as simply a gorgeous piece of meat and a good time no strings attached. In my interpretation, especially with my reading of Laios’ succubus where even with deep-seated desires negative emotions can be too intense to effectively freeze a victim, I think this doesn’t contradict his character. Relationships have been painful to him in the past, in the succubus scene when his wife gets mentioned his immediate reaction is to yell "Don’t bring her up now!", like with his habit of drinking and as a tallman liking his senses feeling dulled, it’s about not having to feel emotions with how difficult they are to deal with sometimes and just feeling good, or at least not having to think, for a while. If a succubus showcases someone’s ideal connection with an ideal person, then Chilchuck’s is with a pretty person that doesn’t stir any negative memory or drama, someone low stakes and low maintenance that doesn’t require him to manage or talk out feelings because there’s none involved in the first place.

— Once more, wife and family are important! He does long for his family, not only his wife but his daughters, and vice versa. This suggests not only that he wants good relationships with them but that he wants them to be with him, a family life. Far from the cut communication they all more of less have during canon, and perhaps far from their life pre-canon when he worked away from home a significant amount of time. We’ve seen recreations of people by the winged lion before with doppelgangers and monsters (naga), and though he claims he can make satisfying imitations, what we’ve seen is that they base themselves on the best memories of that person, like with Marcille’s dad, or twist behavior to be more pleasant, like Mithrun’s lover (and possibly twist appearances depending on the person’s view of them, but that’s Mithrun analysis). The line does suggest Chilchuck would want his family members as they are in reality and not idealized versions, but the circumstances are chaotic and urgent enough in the scene (and again the lion isn’t fulfilling Chilchuck’s wish but trying to make him content for Laios’) that it could just be the winged lion saying what he needs to to convince him the fastest possible, and like we see with Laios that can crumble to give way to deeper or more complex desires.

On top of that we just have general info on Chil. How does Chilchuck deal w his issues? What does he like to do? He likes alcohol and ignoring his problems. We have to remember there is a split between what someone would consciously wish for and what their soul uncontrollably irrationally craves. As always with Dunmeshi, there’s a narrative of irrational deep-seated desires vs active wants, what you crave vs what you strive for, what you dream of vs what’s actually good for you, the animal vs the human inside you, heart vs mind. Chilchuck craving a harem of hot babes in his fantasies but wanting his family life & wife back again is not mutually exclusive. You may crave becoming a monster and tasting what humans are like a little but still want to save the world & your friends more.

Btw can we adress the irony of him terrified of being the last one alive, of being left by his daughters and wife, of having left and coming back home one day to see everything gone or rampaged, yet not caring about dying of liver failure himself, knowing every time that he enters a dungeon there’s a real risk he may not come out. Die somewhere I can’t see you. I prefer leaving you than being left behind. He’s selfish and shortsighted like that… Chilchuck is selfless in many ways of course, but perhaps also due to his own relationship with his parents, he often undermines the effects he has on others in his relationships, both the good and the bad (he talks himself down about being cowardly and greedy yes, but never hints at his bad health habits, alcoholism and starving himself, may have affected his loved ones, doesn’t question his wife falling into a bad mood the night before she left, and talks about the possibility of dying here and there very casually, though obviously he tries his best to stay alive when it doesn’t concern his health).

Chilchuck king of "Let me just avoid and ignore my problems surely they’ll go away, things might work out and if they don’t well tough luck I’ll survive and I probably deserve it anyways". If I don’t look at it it will dissapear <3 Why care when you can simply not think about it.

You might not understand Mister "my love will stay strong through months of work travel and also 4 years of separation" and Mister "well idk my siblings and me are kinda strangers and my dad is dead but that’s kinda whatever", but typically relationships need some form of maintenance and emotional availability…

The actual headcanons finally

I kinda have 2 routes in mind for dunlord Chil and both of them are centered on "I care too much, i wish things were easy", so first is a lot like his succubi, it’s full on indulging in his guilty pleasures like alcohol and bodies and it’s to keep him in a constant state of thrill and euphoria and distracted, unfeeling about stuff that really matters. "Nothing matters except that I’m enjoying the moment!" vibe. He gets to live a life worthy of Dionysus, with alcohol and women and debauchery and like— never having to think again, never having to feel anything but pleasure again, never have to feel guilty or shitty or angry or sad. He has a harem and gets everything on a silver platter.

Breaking news demon magic-induced rush of euphoria and power still not enough to cure this man of his self-hatred nor his capacity for thought!! But in his case a state of euphoria is what he seeks I think, to kinda mask or replace the Everything Else.

The other is what I think closer to what canon suggests, with what WL implied too with "I’ll make you a new wife and kids like the originals!! 😊", it’s a (spoilers) Wandavision type thing where it’s a slice of life where he’s never at work and always at home and the family eats lunches at the dinner table together and everything and everyone at any moment is just. Happy. No issues. It was all a dream, this is real and everything is fine and your family is perfect and happy. I like to think the timeline would be wonky, his daughters would fluctuate in age, but he’d want to be there for what he missed, would want them to still rely on him and look up to him like when they were young, would like to forget that they’re now independent adults and the distance that grew between Chilchuck and his siblings is happening between them as well. Chil would want doppelgangers of his family imo, at its core just a general wish for a peaceful happy family life with no drama, no need to compromise, a little paradise of unconditional love and no consequences. It’s for sure straightforward, but Chilchuck is a man with straightforward desires…

But see Chilchuck is a greedy man, and he wants it both ways without having to sacrifice anything or expanding any efforts himself. He wants to have his cake and eat it too. I think playing with these two opposite directions and mixing and matching is most fun. Him leading a life where he indulges in all his worst habits while still having everything he wants… Him getting to have BOTH his wife and any woman he can imagine up, his life like two sides of a coin he can flip at any moment where he’s partying then he’s at home enjoying the quiet and his toddler daughters playing with toys on the carpet. Christ when you remember it’s all an illusion that’s terrifying, the doppelgangers and succubi from the winged lion playing chilchuck ping pong.

A safe little haven both security-stability wise and emotionally. Gets to have both the relaxing and the thrilling in any dose he wants, mixed or separatedly. What I’d argue he had pre-canon too: Can live it up in taverns away from home, stays away from home for long periods of time, and can come back to home aka the symbol of relaxation and safety whenever he decides to. Something he can leave and come back to at will, an anchor he can trust in (until it’s taken from him and his wife leaves. Or in his worse nightmare people rush in and kill his daughters). The ideal of a house and family to a working man, perhaps…

I think it’s fun to think on wether or not these desires would be interesting at all to the winged lion… In canon he seeks out "rare/complex desires", common simple things like I imagine riches, sex, substances and pleasure would be are boring to him, he’s eaten those so many times already. So perhaps he wouldn’t last long as a dunlord, the WL would want to eat him fully quick, can’t keep him interested or waiting long for a meager meal, too much effort raising the cattle and too low quality meat. By making it more twisted or layered Chil’s desire would become more desirable to the demon, it’s part of what’s fun with the third option to me. But whatever. Has he ever eaten a guy with this much repression and self-sabotage... Like trying to get the meat out of a walnut, enrichment…

Other dunlord Chil takes I’ve seen that are fun and good:

@feelo-fick and @pluvio-floret have a dunlord Chilchuck AU project dubbed "tragedy AU" where Chilchuck is said to be "on vacation", in a weird delirious state, only half-there half of the time… From which he doesn’t want to wake up </3 Quoting Feelo, this is why the vacation thing is only a half-joke cause he is 1) letting all his responsibilities go 2) indulging in himself and 3) "spending time with his family" <- lie but you get what i mean. Additional comments that have me vigorously nodding: because changing is hard why cant things just be okay right now without the effort !!! Life is hard he’s so so tired he just wants to feel good… he just wants life to feel nice and easy for a sec while he can learn to breathe again and lose the stress and trauma he’s accumulated…….. spoiler alert yes !!! in fact a depressed person can suck themselves into their job and lock out the world who wouldve thought !!!

And then Cabinette I know posted about his dunlord take once but I don’t have the link, in which Chil has a lot of nosebleeds because of mana overload which is fun and interesting to think about imo~

In dunmeshi, where characters get underground pockets of the world as their playground disconnected from everything outside and the rest of the world, it’s important to remember to face reality even if it has conflict and people with different views and stances from you, it’s something Chilchuck and Marcille and everyone needed to learn, and the thing with a dungeon lord AU is that you imagine a timeline where he fails to <3

A timeline where his dungeon lord wish is to desire nothing bc hope and want has only ever hurt him would also go so hard. Very universal thing though I suppose.

… And this is why a Chilchuck-centric Coraline AU is really really interesting and fitting and topical— Ok that’ll go in a separate reblog/post at @Fumiku I need to let this end

#Dungeon meshi #chilchuck tims #Analysis #dungeon lord chilchuck #Spoilers #dungeon meshi manga spoilers #Wish we could put just parts of a post under a ‘click to read more’ box that scrolls open and closes neatly #Bc 3/4th of the post is just extra explanation for ppl who don’t See The Vision already but like that’s not what i wanted most of the post #to be really gdbdg #Headcanons #You could say the family also represents something he’s built up with how own hands. If he has self-worth issues and thinks he’s a screw-up #in the virtue/honor and likability department especially— his family destroyed/killed also represents the one biggest good thing #he’s done/created crumbling also. Like his wife leaving without a word while he trusted their relationship this can hugely impact #one’s sense of identity and self-worth and what you’re living life for. In his case it’s not too surprising he turned to simple #physical pleasures for comfort and enjoyment. Like with tasting good food having moments feeling good keeps you going #He always focuses on the bad relationships bring and never the good aghhhh #The reverse of Marcille who often idealizes. They both ignore problems in their relationships in opposite ways.#What do you mean why do i bring up marcille. Okay yes this’ll get a marchil Fumiku short brainstorm reblog as well #Chilchuck is so… curse of having feelings and not realizing the extent of them. Underestimating how much you care #It’s either ‘i’m fine who cares’ or falling into the pits of despair and blaming himself n spilling his whole bag no inbetween #Dunmeshi succubus #Fumi rambles #boy that’s what this boils down to i suppose #Family angst “Hey I came back home from work and i’m tired so don’t talk to me about problems or anything k? I’m here to relax smh damn”#< unwilling to admit he has issues he should be working on or that some things are affecting others negatively #Chil you are so enneagram 6w7 <3

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robin-with-a-pen · 8 months ago

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Okay I’m having ideas I need someone to stop me-

Anyways, so we all know that Chilchuck probably doesn’t have the healthiest relationship with food? Right?

I don’t think he has an eating disorder but more so disordered eating- that hellish middle space, right? I mean “maintaining his body weight at an acceptable level” really sticks out to me

So picture this- my man retires, he doesn’t need to control his weight anymore, no worry about setting off or anything, but he realizes that the unhealthy habits he’s developed over he past ten years are harder to break than he thought

#hi I’m your friendly neighborhood ‘writer with mental issues they like to project onto characters’#anyways now I’ve got to ask myself #do I really want my very first contribution to this fandom to be a Chilchuck disordered eating recovery(?) fic #dungeon meshi spoilers #tagging is my least favorite part of every post #but alas I enjoy the dopamine of little notification #this idea obviously isn’t thought through #and j might not end up writing it #but you never know #I might be striking gold #watch this be the fic that gets me out of my slump-#chilchuck #dungeon meshi manga spoilers #just in case #it’s kinda spoilers #but also mostly inconsequential knowledge that most people already know #dungeon meshi #dungeon meshi fanfic #chilchuck (dm)#chilchuck tims #chuckleduck gets put in situations #chilfuck and the recovery arc #I’ll probably have his family or friends or smth express concern over him #I can expand on bits and pieces if anyone wants #but I do have ideas #maybe I can force mithrun in there as a ‘we forget to take care of ourselves’ club

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minamishimada835 · 11 months ago

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I saw this panel and opened my sketchbook app as fast as I could

#this is my only offering to this fandom #oshi no ko #onk #oshi no ko meme #onk meme #my idol’s child #oshi no ko manga #oshi no ko spoilers #kinda sorta not really yeah?#idk tagging it just in case #this has probably been done before #but I wanted to make one too #my posts

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clegfly · 4 months ago

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Getting REAL sick and tired of how omori TikTok views sunny.

Like, they view any scene of him being emotionally vulnerable, affectionate, or even just making an expression outside of just being completely neutral as “mischaracterised”. He’s not some cool, stoic, unwavering badass, he is a traumatised teenager. Don’t cry whenever he dares to give his friend a hug or (god forbid) be SAD about something??? Isn’t like. Part of the point of his development about him allowing himself to break down the repressive walls he built when he shut himself in? And being able to rely on his real friends instead of imaginary versions? And isn’t the game like. Meant to SHOW that he still cares about them despite isolating himself?

It’s really stupid to get mad at a character like that showing emotion or affection personally, especially since he’s not used to expressing it properly after so long. But that’s just me

#this isn’t even solely about the manga though it inspired me to make this post #any piece of official art in which sunny dares to show an emotion is shunned as ooc and I’m sick of it #he only appears ‘neutral’ throughout the GAME’s narrative because he HAS NO FACE SPRITES #because he’s the protagonist and has no actual dialogue #therefore he only makes a few expressions the entire game #obviously manga sunny is a good bit more expressive than canon sunny but #it’s REALLY not as bad as TikTok is making it out to be #I’m so TIRED of this character being viewed as nothing but a rock that ONLY has personality before and the game’s events #not allows to emote at all because ‘he didn’t do that in the game!!’#because he is restricted to ONE face sprite the entire time outside of the battles #omori is a DIFFERENT case and I can admit that manga omori is a good bit more expressive than he should be but #he’s still VERY stoic especially compared to sunny #which is what is should be #sunny should be quite closed off but in contrast to omori so much more human #that’s like. a massive part of their dynamic I feel #anyway this is such a long rant but god im so angry #I’ve seen one too many people cry ‘mischaracterised’ at a teenager expressing feelings #PLEASE stop it #also this is not to say you can’t critique manga sunny’s portrayal #because there are a few issues I believe #which are honestly really hard to dance around considering the factors I mentioned before #about having one expression most of the game and two lines of dialogue the entire time #and honestly? I think they did a pretty okay job!#he’s still a silent protagonist but seeing him emote so often helps us see into his mind and know how he’s thinking much easier #both portrayals have their pros and cons and ultimately I prefer the game’s portrayal #but that’s not to say this version of sunny is terrible and ooc like people have been saying #and that’s definitely not to say that any moment of emotional vulnerability he has is terrible and inaccurate #because that’s. just terrible and untrue #omori #omori sunny

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summergoodwife · 7 days ago

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reblogging yuri manga with #I LOVE ADULTERY, just in case any mangadex commenters have entered my blog like little houseflies

#yuri manga #yuri #toxic yuri #don't look at mangadex comments for toxic yuri ever #OR any yuri for that matter #really just don't look at mangadex comments #they're almost always #1) deeply uninsightful #2) riddled with biases and misinterpretation based on other manga that the manga being commented on vaguely resembles #3) (in the case of yuri comments specifically) made by non-queer male yuri fans #and like genuinely you're free to like whatever but if you have no relation to the community you should always hesitate to post your takes #I have seen so many comments literally calling nuanced lesbian manga “impure” and claiming that yuri is supposed to be “clean”#as if that is not the most nonsensical misogynistic lesbophobic BS #like damn people just say things huh #I am constantly surprised by people's ability to construct full comments without thinking #anyway #that should explain why I say that #I LOVE ADULTERY

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deus-ex-mona · 2 months ago

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up next on chapter 36 of idol sengen… _(:3 」∠)_

#(my toxic trait is that i’ll complain about my work endlessly but still end up doing it anyway… eventually.)#there’s rant 1 (ft. a need to deduce what asuna is saying in full) and rant 2 (which is available in full but still…)#there’s also another mona-rambling session in chapter 38… that im not touching with a 50 foot pole #(all you need to know for that mona-rambling [about frusu] is that mona’s frusu oshi is all of them)#(and that she thinks miyu is like *the* pinnacle of centres in idol groups)#(also someone won a junior dance competition but idk who bc it’s obscured lmao)#can i outsource these panels for a corn chip lmaoooo #m. maybe i should’ve actually worked on this while i was still unemployed last month huh…#bc excuse me company wdymmmmmm im starting work next monday?? the interview was just this monday hello?#ig the interviewer was legit when she said ‘so if i asked you if you can start work next monday—’ huh…#sigh… maybe ch 36 next month then… i’ll do my best over the weekend thoughhhhh #seriously though why is this volume so text heavy l m a o i really wanna get to chapter 40 but…#and then there’s the hard to clean text boxes which… aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa #…though i guess i should just count myself lucky that the chapters are still short enough to fit into a single post (with the image limits)#but dang. i just realised that my manga sengen thing has a page on manga updates lmao #who put it there lmaooooo and why is it only up till vol 2? wait. no. what. why does it link to manga.dex #bc dang. someone really had the time to dl the thing image by image? no wonder why they stopped after vol 2…#guess i might as well say why i dont want people to reupload my tls… since we’re in the final stretch and all #so. aside from the obvious ‘idw the creators to find out about it’… i probably made a ton of mistakes while tling it. esp in the early chaps #so i’d like to. y’know. have the chance to update the tls where possible. i’ve done that a couple of times already tbh.#like with rippei’s name post-vol 4 release. and some of the typesetting is p. gross in the early chaps tbvh #i swear tling idol sengen has made me incredibly conscious of grammar and typesetting like you wouldnt believe #esp with official tls… fan tls will always be perfect to me no matter how wonky the wording bc it’s hard but honest work yk #official tls (esp a.i tls) get no concessions from me bc it’s their job that they’re getting paid to do yk.#in any case (if you’ve read this far) if you see any mistakes in the tl please lemme know~~~ please dont hold back on your criticisms ok~~~?#just sound ‘em out in dms here or sth. don’t worry~~~ i won’t eat y’all if you try to correct me~~~~~ unless you’re the md reuploader (jk)#and ik i disabled comments on the other blog (or tried to at least) but that’s bc idw bots to flood the comments bc that’s annoying as he—#anyways sorry for the idol sengen wait (if anyone was waiting for it…) i’ll improve on my work ethic… tomorrow. maybe.

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criminal-sen · 4 months ago

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Okay so I know this manga hasn't gotten to any of the batshit villainy I've heard about. But the antagonists are honestly rad af even this early on. This guy is my favorite (can't remember his name atm (which is extra stupid of me since he's a fictionalized version of an actual historical figure) goddamnit jfc) cuz he's like.. Japan's version of some crazy fuckin gunslinger. And him being a former samurai just makes him cooler bc he's fighting all these guys with guns then will randomly pull out his sword, as he puts, 'just for funsies'

Okay fine he didnt say 'just for funsies' VERBATIM, u got me okay? but he did say smth along those lines. Anyway idk if I'm to 'I wanna fuck that old man' levels of fandom but I'm getting up there. I'm approaching:3

#golden kamuy #im trying v hard not to put any spoilers in these posts (not that theres many this early on anyway)#but im sure the time will come where i gotta talk about some wild plot twist in which case ill put under a cut #i do like that a big theme so far in this manga is Fear Of Death (neither the protag nor these major villains fear it)#and it essentially replaces them having superpowers cuz theyre so much stronger than the average death fearing guy #which ofc it's a bit over the top here. but not freezing up during like.. a Battle Moment is sure to put u at an advantqge #omfg im rambling i just. really like it

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thatone-churro · 7 months ago

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ah yes. the thrills of watching the final few arcs of demon slayer arrive and watching anime-onlys experience this all for the first time

of course, with the added score and voices and animation, i’ll be sobbing just as genuinely with them throughout the end, but i digress

#i’m saying nothing else other than i will be sobbing in about an arc or two from now #if the rendition of rengoku’s death hurt. just you wait and see what they do with the rest of the series. this studio knows their shit.#grace being stupid #text post #personal #kny #kimetsu no yaiba #kny manga spoilers #demon slayer manga spoilers #kimetsu no yaiba manga spoilers #< just in case it’s too spoiler-y??#i mean look at the series by now #so y’all really think rengoku’s gonna be the only demon slayer casualty in the infinity castle and sunrise countdown arcs? come on now #well even that we get the final moons’ backstories so yeah that too i suppose #demon slayer

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saltlickmp3 · 6 months ago

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From our convo earlier today about dressing emo/scene, I only ever tried going all out (but only using clothes i already owned) for it one time and like lowkey I absolutely slayed

I was with my sister and a friend and they call me emo sometimes so I played it off as "teehee silly joke" when really I was LOVING the look hajdhjabdjahdjahhdh. Also, however, swoop bangs like literally BOIL YOUR FACE ALIVE?? I WAS OVERHEATING BECAUSE OF MY HAIR??? I think my hair is just turbo thick tho

THAT HAS SO MUCH SWAG OMG?? the cargo shorts the chains over the tie the belts on an angle the gold nail polish.......... nice

#gotta get me some cargo shorts fr hehe #seriously though that looks really cool especially for just clothes you already had #live your scenemo dreams :]#unrelated some of my friends have read that toilet bound hanako kun manga & they really like it. i know nothing else about it but #thing i've heard of spotted! lol #also if you ever get scared or something cos your photos are on blog just tell me & i can delete post if you need :]#just in case #anyways yay thanks for the ask!!#jordan tag :D

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akai-anna · 1 year ago

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me, thinking about THIS

particular manga panel in the naniwa serial murder case.

this lives in my head. that's it, that's the post.

#detco posting #detective conan #manga #la junk talks #i'll come out and say it: hattori heiji has one well-shaped backside #and in this panel it just... what is with this pose? like really #anyways this was a random thought #yeah detco brainrot is still strong despite my absence #also yes i really love this case a lot such a great case for SO MANY REASONS #also this is such an iconic hattori heiji outfit... it's so good

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fruit-kick · 2 years ago

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in love with how vermillion is used for Yuka's design and how it symbolizes them as a character, their love both protects and hurts them the same way vermillion is beautiful and poisonous. i'm not sure what the significance is for their scarf and jacket, but in the scene where Yatora calls them they wear all red on their dress, nails, and lipstick, there's also black lacing on the dress which is also one of their emblems (i.e being used to represent their love when they talk to yatora about their break up) idk i just think it's super neat

#🍊fruit.posts🏀#blue period #ryuji ayukawa #also i use the word 'love' in a non-romantic context in case that needs to be known #i just couldn't find a better word because yuka's conflict extends from 'desire/like/interest/passion'#because all of those implies something theyre doing or want to do #when it's more of an aspect of who they are as a person #anyways i wonder if this parallels with the 'blue' theme for yatora? i only watched the anime and im making my way to the manga #(its also art guide to me) and there are a LOT of details left out from the anime- plus i dont really know what blue means for yatora yet #so i'll just take my time to figure the characters out from the manga #!!! edited this post to replace ryuji with yuka because i didn't realize the significance of their name until i reread the manga

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tvrningout-a · 2 years ago

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" my name is chiyoko hisakawa. i was bitten by a radioactive spider, and for the last few years, i've been the one and only spider-woman. or, uh, jorogumo, if you wanna get specific. kinda have to be these days. "

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waywardsalt · 2 years ago

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I am humbly requesting your thoughts on Linebeck

Oh I have a LOT of thoughts on Linebeck but I'll try to just get some major points down bc it would take me ages to spill all of my thoughts on him.

(plus i do have two general headcanon posts [ 1 2 ] a post abt headcanons about him being autistic [ x ] and a weird post about his coat [ x ] as well as pretty much anything in my linebeck tag with my excessive tagging of some reblogs and my original posts + whatever writing or fanfiction i have done/will do with him included so. bonus reading for headcanon-y stuff or a look at how i portray him)

added a read more bc this is long bc of course it is :) i hope it's in the right spot :)))

Linebeck is... a good fucking character. He's probably my favorite character period, and has been pretty much soon after I got Phantom Hourglass. He feels unique compared to other Zelda characters as a companion character who offers less direct support and is more just of a constant character who changes throughout the course of the story and is... well, a companion, not really a helper. He falls more in line with the types of loz characters who are more rude or antagonistic towards Link, but develops out of that, and also technically counts not only as a boss but a final boss, putting him as the only non-villain character to be a final boss, so uh good for him.

Just within the context of the games he's got a great design and a great theme (which is only heard about two times before the final boss but has a recognizable enough motif for it to be noticed in the final boss theme) and an interesting role in his game and just has one of the best character arcs and one of the most interesting places within the story as a whole. Linebeck's arc is very... natural in how you see his attitude change within both story beats and in his overworld dialogue, but at the same time seems like it stutters when he deals with Ciela's criticism and upholding his own reputation, I think his character arc is very fascinating if you consider the entire context of his character and what he interacts with, since a majority of the characters he directly interacts with seem to deny the idea that he's any more than a useless coward.

The fact that pretty much the rest of the major cast in Phantom Hourglass has basically no faith or respect for Linebeck is so fucking fascinating to me. This guy has to be doing so fucking bad over the course of the game. In relation to Ciela specifically, an idea I've been thinking of and trying to work into some of my Phantom Hourglass oneshots is that having to be around and interact with her so frequently wears Linebeck down pretty badly as the game goes on.

This guy is undeniably mentally ill and that's also something I have a specific fic planned out for but that's probably not going to see the light of day for a while. It's basically five chapters of Oshus being Linebeck's therapist or something each time Link goes to the Temple of the Ocean King.

I particularly enjoy how the game (at least twice) plays with your expecting him to be at the ship all of the time by having him be in a different spot on an island. His dialogue for islands and his overseas dialogue are fun, it gives off a sense that he much prefers exploring and is a bit less guarded overseas. His dialogue during the ghost ship fight is ESPECIALLY fantastic, the specific line of 'I'm fighting right there with you this time, kid!' not only offers some very interesting insight to his attitude towards link and his own role, but kind of also stings when considering the events of the final boss and is also a quote I took a screenshot of while reading the text dump for this game.

Phantom Hourglass is by no means an exceptional game and while the story is fine it's nothing fantastic and even most of the characters are... ok, but Linebeck is without a doubt the best part of this game and I really feel like he's the main reason why people still give this game a chance and despite everything he's easily one of the best characters in the entire series even if his game isn't one of the better ones. He honest to god steals every scene he's in, even if he barely has any dialogue- he's animated with such distinct personality and I love it. He doesn't speak at all until the end of the spirit of courage scene and yet is so fucking distracting with his fruity fucking posing and movements in reaction to what's going on.

I'm also personally a fan of the near-complete lack of backstory we get for him. The most we get is some vague implications but everyone can read the given information in different ways so it's really not much. Phantom Hourglass's general lack of lore is great for me since I can just fill in the blanks however I want. I kinda honestly don't want Nintendo to revisit this game because I don't really want them to add anything new. Just port it or something don't change it.

That's about it for surface-level specific-to-the-games Linebeck talk... on to everything else.

Linebeck is literally the reason why I found out I was autistic. I wrote this loser and realized I was accidentally making him kinda autistic and THEN realized I was also projecting and then decided to look into that. He's fun to write and he always ends up a little out of character and at this point I barely give a damn because this bastard is masking or keeping up a facade or whatever the fuck in most of his scenes anyways. Linebeck's arc feels to me more about him being most honest and open to and about his own emotions and actual personality so honestly writing him a bit out of character doesn't bother me too much.

He's my favorite little guy, and when I plan out Zelda aus he always gets a major role to the point where a lot of the twists to my aus all end up being similar. For a few of them I've had to forcibly alter his role so that I can't include him constantly. He's very interesting for different kinds of aus because he's an interesting character for different concepts and situations. His relationships with characters in Phantom Hourglass lend well to au stuff; specifically with Link, in one au they're adoptive brothers, in one they're something akin to rivals, in one their mutual fixation on each other propels the plot. I've even expanded on interactions and possible dynamics with Bellum in aus (Bellum is honestly fun since he's kind of a blank slate in canon but there's just enough there to build off of but keep it relatively the same original character).

I have a few ocs that used to be au versions of Linebeck that ended up becoming their own thing because the aus in question worked better as original stories.

With Phantom Hourglass-centric ideas, it's a lot of fun to poke around and explore stuff with Linebeck's past, his mental state, the kinds of things he enjoys or hates, pretty much anything the game doesn't elaborate on. With all of that blank space and the fact that I've known about him for a few years now, I've gotten down a whole backstory and deeper details on Linebeck, most of which I'm probably going to end up expressing through writing.

Just a few of the baseline ones are just along the lines of him being gay, autistic, touch-averse, intersex, a cat person, someone who highly values his freedom, half Gerudo, interested in music- some of it can be supported with canon (he really comes off to me like a closeted gay man, and he does have some generally autistic vibes) and some of it is really just for the hell of it (in particular the idea that he’s of Gerudo descent has no backing but is so interesting for story stuff and is generally fun) (I also enjoy ignoring parts of canon. I have not played Spirit Tracks and I do not want to play it so if I don't look at it I can ignore it).

I have a lot of fun fleshing him out in different aus or in scenarios before or after Phantom Hourglass, since there's just enough there to allow for further reasonable exploration, and his being just some normal guy actually helps with that since it forces you to keep things relatively normal and comparable to kinds of things you can experience in your day-to-day. I've more or less figured out a (mostly) full backstory for him, I've decided on a full physical description of how he looks so that I have a baseline if I want to change stuff in an au or just so that I know how I figure he looks as well as have an idea of how some physical traits can lend themselves to other aspects of how I write and portray him (for example, I figure he has long fingers, which goes right with the idea that he enjoys music and is pretty good on a piano, and also that he's good with tasks that might require a bit more finger dexterity as well as generally helping a bit with pick-pocketing or thievery)

I figure that, along with the general idea I have of him valuing his freedom, he's not particularly interested in following rules or laws and hates seeing too many of them put in place, and especially values his own identity even if he doesn't express it as much as he'd like. He likes being able to go wherever he'd like and he likes being able to do what he wants and express himself how he wants and that stuff gets bogged down when he plays into that image of someone he's not that he hides behind and doubles down on in a good bit of Phantom Hourglass.

Linebeck is fun in general he's a good character he's fun for aus he's got enough groundwork to spend ages pouring into possible avenues for his personality and background and whatever potential he could have in different aus or roles. He's surprisingly fun and interesting to use as an antagonist since you can't fall back on easy villain-writing ideas and have to get a bit more creative with it.

I think I struggle to write him in-character but it's backed up a bit by my specific interpretation of him suggesting that a lot of what you see from him is forced or fake. I still think he's a greedy piece of shit, though. He sucks and it's on purpose. I lean into him being rude and cold and a bit quieter overall.

He just... for some fucking reason when I decided to play this game Linebeck struck a chord with me whether or not I realized it at the time so he's just very interesting and entertaining and important to me and it really doesn't help that either Phantom Hourglass as a whole or just Linebeck is my special interest.

Linebeck stands out in comparison to other Zelda characters and has a very unique and fascinating role and arc and is just so fucking good.

He feels like he could be used as an example of how good character writing can save a piece of art (not that ph sucks but like. god damn he elevates it) just because his inclusion makes the story more interesting as you have this selfish asshole tagging along next to your little goody-two-shoes protagonist and fairy friend, and his arc, though not entirely the focus of the story, is another reason to keep progressing. His dialogue is funny and has some really good in-character tips every so often, he adds character to traversal and adds stakes as a character to care about and protect and is just fucking fantastic.

He's a character that can work as comedic relief but at the same time can be taken very seriously and I really enjoy that while he seems to be in the role of comedic relief a lot it never seems much like it's diegetically intentional and it still allows room for him to be taken completely seriously. Him knocking over stone Tetra is funny but there's so much character in that entire string of animations that while it's a fun background gag it also provides even more insight into Linebeck as a character.

Essentially he's my favorite character ever he was probably my gay awakening and I want to steal his gender and I think about him more than I think about my ocs.

#linebeck #asks #whistlingstarlight #loz #legend of zelda #phantom hourglass #salty talks #literally i got ph in the first place bc some old zeldatubers made a good case abt him and i vaguely remembered reading the manga #and now im still playing it bc of him. do it for him. whatever. easily one of the most important fictional characters ive experienced #i tried to make this more.... formal??? cuz you asked so nicely ty for the ask #i tried to just give some kind of idea of my basic ideas? i didnt want to get too specific since you just asked for thoughts #had a couple of instances of imposter syndrome pop up while writing this bc it feels weird to me to call ph or linebeck my special interest #when i dont look at anything beyond the game half of the time so idk. i think abt and can talk abt linebeck in specific for a while ig #i didn't want to go too in depth with anything since the ask was a lil vague and i didnt want to go into massive tangents #i think i still have the high school essay-writing format brainworms this feels like a structured essay #whatever im insane about him but this is really long and i dont know what to focus on #long post #i stg if the fucking 'keep reading' teleports to where it shouldnt be #anyways a few of my linebeck pet peeves are when people treat him as shallow comic relief or ignore his character arc #i have a lot of linebeck pet peeves but those are the basic ones. pls be nice to him #i empathize a lot with linebeck hence the projection i do with him so idk what that says about me but hes got gay autistic swag so whatever #i left out a lot of other stuff bc some of it would maybe require a mature label. im insane abt him but im also gay abt him

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anothermonikan · 2 years ago

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I think another one of my hottest anime-based takes is that no, Kawai is not 'Just as bad as Ueno' and it's kind of a weird take really? Like, Kawai is no saint, not by a long shot, she does deny she had any part in the bullying of Shouko and it is shown that that's wrong, she was complacent in the whole thing, she pins it all on Shoya, like yeah! I get that!

But I don't think Kawai hates Shouko. I don't think she ever really did, she just wanted to fit in with her peers like most children do, and yeah, that did cause her to be complacent and laugh at the bullying because that's what her friend group was doing, doesn't make it right but I think it's important to get that. She probably does genuinely think she didn't have a part in the bullying because it was never actively done, she was trying to fit in with her peers, don't forget they treated Sahara poorly as well for being friends with Shouko, I'm not gonna blame a kid for wanting to avoid that. She reads as if she genuinely doesn't realise the part she played in the bullying and because of that she is genuinely hurt and confused at the accusation. A Silent Voice doesn't really develop her character past it but Kawai is not as Irredemable as some of you make her seem.

Ueno hates Shouko, and she makes it very very clear that she hates Shouko. To everyone around her, to Shouko herself. She is still actively bullying Shouko when everyone else around her has moved on, hell, the first thing she does when she sees Shouko and Shoya together is attempt to take Shouka's hearing aids off her because she still thinks it's just fun and that Shoya will play along. She hates Shouko because she views her as the reason that Shoya lost all his friends, which is blatanty an untrue statement, Shoya lost his friends because he was a bully and no one wanted to be assosiated with him when it wasn't cool to be a bully anymore.

The ferris wheel scene. Is awful. It's the most emotionally charged scene to me. Ueno straight up tells Shouko that she's the problem and that the way she is is just a burden on everyone around her, she refuses to use Shouko's notebook to communicate like Shouko wants, and when Shouko expresses that she doesn't hate Ueno and that she hates herself, Ueno pushes her to the ground and yells at her that she's just the same as she was back in elementary, it is awful Ueno is fucking awful! After Shoya gets put in a coma saving Shouko, Ueno beats her up and yells at her about how everything that happened is all her fault, as if she literally didn't just try to commit suicide because she felt like a burden on the people around her.

I just. Don't get how you guys see 'Girl who was complacent in bullying who genuinely doesn't think she had a part in it and so deflects blame onto another person who had a bigger part' and 'Girl who literally goes out of her way to make an already depressed girl feel even worse about herself because she thinks that she shouldn't have to feel bad about being a bully' and went 'Yep! This are the exact same!' like.????

#In case this post breaks containment: Hi! I was pretty badly bullied as a child and I am not making excuses for bullies #I just really love this movie and don't understand this take. At all #This is my most rewatched anime I would... Like to think I have a pretty alright grasp on the characters?#Maybe Kawai was being intentionally deflective because she also feels like she shouldn't have to feel bad for bullying.#But she certainly doesn't come accross that way to me. And even if she is she still never did anything as bad as Ueno #I've never read the manga. This is an anime only take #I should read the manga really ehe #Sorry for writing a mini essay instead of sleeping. It will happen again #Sjsjsjs #A Silent Voice #Suicide mention #Android.txt

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