#not of Finwë and Indis

[yellow-faerie]

Ok so, follow up poll from this one (since I'm curious):

(please add any extra info on why/headcanons in the tags, I really wanna know since more people than I expected counted them among the best)

[gauntletgirlie]

Original from Reddit.

[anattmar]

no but that's literally them

[artist of the original illustration is Robert Maguire]

[softmoonlightmelody]

what if nelyafinwë isn't actually a mark of scorn to anyone? what if, when maedhros was born, he was the third-finwë?

in the silm, the way it's ordered makes it seem like chronologically fëanáro and nerdanel got married before finwë and indis. and knowing fëanáro and nerdanel, it's pretty likely they had their first child pretty soon after getting married.

so. what if maedhros was born before finwë married indis? nelyafinwë is called that because he is the third finwë.

this also adds another reason to why fëanáro may be angry at finwë. because fëanáro doesn't need a mother or anything, and now finwë marries indis? but it also adds more to finwë - he waited so long, and míriel wouldn't even come back for her first grandchild.

[carmisse]

Of Caranthir.

Caranthir looks like Miriel.

Because even though Tyelkormo has the platinum hair of the Noldor queen, he does not look like his grandmother.

But Indis can see Miriel in Carnistir, when Fëanáro's son moves about the Finwë household, she is able to see her in the stubbornness that the prince dazzles and even in his angry outbursts, she can sense a gleam in the shadows of his eyes that she had only seen in Þerinde.

In the same way, Fëanáro can see Miriel when Carnistir is embroidering in the depths of his room accompanied only by a few candles that produce enough light to work without problems, he can find her in the meaningless humming of his son that many times have generated tears in his eyes.

Finwë can see Miriel when Carnistir smiles, he inherited her smile, and he can't help his heart squeezing when he sees his grandson with a clear joy in his face.

That's probably the reason for him to look up to him just a little bit more than his other grandchildren.

[beatx-mavie-archangelx]

"pronouncing 'Þerindë' as 'Serindë' is not that big of a deal" just say you've always been called right your whole life.

[chaos-of-the-abyss]

wait i thought i’d seen the full extent of the silm fandom’s misogyny but i guess the silm fandom can always hate female characters more because apparently?? people believe indis the manipulative malicious bitch came onto and cajoled and stalked finwe until he relented and married her all while specifically aiming to make it so that miriel could never come back and she could have finwe's dick for all of eternity and abuse poor helpless feanor to her black shriveled heart’s content??? apparently that is a take that exists and has shooters??? yall are truly smoking that good stuff

[blueflipflops]

I desperately would love love LOVE to introduce Feanorians to a Quenyan version of Scrabble and watch them explode

I imagine that they'd make a bigger board to be able to fit 10-12 players and it would go on for days. With bickerings on the validity of words and with Moryo as the score keeper who can't quite keep his mouth shut and joins in on the bickering on wheter the word choice is "so fucking stupid, Tyelko. It should be banned on principle. What the fuck-". Each of the Feanorion just keeps on making up new rules especially after the Ambarussa makes up new words and argues for a whole hour and a half that it "totally counts as a word. Trust us, Nelyo-", that time Meadhros tried to pass a whole ass sentence as a "word", when Feanor took almost 12+ hours to think up an appropriate word to put down and etc.

Because come on guys. Ñoldor? "Those with great knowledge"? Feanor? The guy who created a whole ass writing system (the Tengwar)? His family? Who is just as intense and competitive as him? His step-siblings who would no doubt love an excuse to throw down without getting into trouble with the Valar or Finwë? Scrabble is THE BEST for Ñoldor Family Game Night(s).

I can just imagine Feanor playing scrabble with Finwë, Indis, Nolofinwë, Arafinwë, Írimë and Findis. Oh boyy. Findis is keeping score but everyone keeps trying to justify how they should have a higher score that word. Nolo and Feanor are shouting. Accusing each other for cheating. Ara made a throwaway joke once and suddenly BOTH his brothers are shouting at him. Indis saw the chaos and wanted to put away the game but was immediately stopped. Finwë is just happy to spend time with his family. Írimë is, in fact, the one who is cheating

Edit: More Feanorion shenanigans here! For part 2

Edit: And another! For part 3

Edit: Part 4!

[Edited to keep it to one post. Was too excited to post]

[silmarillaure]

Why did I see someone on Tolkien reddit victim blaming Míriel for staying dead & calling her a bad mother?...

Disappointed but can't say I'm surprised.

[serene-faerie]

Since I feel like making another of these polls:

[yellow-faerie]

The Lady of Tartúrion

Fic by @yellow-faerie (AO3)

Art by @lidoshka (AO3) - Original art found here, here and here

Rating: Teen & Up

Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings, Minor Character Death Off Screen, Depression

Relationships: Fëanor & Indis, Indis & Children of Indis, Indis/Finwë, Indis & Ingwë, Indis & Accalírë (OC)

Characters: Indis, Fëanor, Finwë, Finarfin, Fingolfin, Findis, Lalwen, Ingwë, Rúmil, Accalírë (OC), Other OCs

Word Count: 9.4k

Summary:

When Indis first met Fëanáro, she was still la Lady of the Vanyarin Court and had not yet met Finwë - the future love of her life - in anything outside of an official capacity.

-

In the aftermath of Finwë's death, fading in his sleep from his longstanding grief, Indis must keep it together for her children, and for the baby within her, and for Fëanáro - who does not particularly want her help. She has friends and her brother but it is still no easy task.

This is a fic for @tolkienrsb, for slide #48!

[anattmar]

Finwë • Indis • Míriel

[softmoonlightmelody]

míriel’s name means jewel daughter and the silmarils are jewels, because all of fëanor’s accomplishments boil down to trying to prove that he’s good enough for his mother to come back.

[valardynasty]

Finwë Dynasty

Finwë et sa première épouse Miriel Perindë avec qui il a eu son premier fils, Fëanor. Sa seconde épouse Indïs, avec qui il eut deux filles et deux garçons, Findïs, Fingolfin, Irimë et Finarfin.

[dfwbwfbbwfbwf]

Fëanáro is Elf Mary Tudor

Authors, particularly those of the fantasy genre, tend to take inspiration from history. I don't have any problem with that - quite the contrary, I think that's cool.

This idea came to me when reading An Unexpected Rescue by SpaceWall. I won't spoil it above the Read More line, but I make no promises after. I recommend reading it before you continue this. You have been warned. (There's also a history lesson here because I ramble. 😅)

I read this line:

“I have more important work to do. Perhaps, if you were his trueborn son, my father would give you some.” “My parents are married,” Nolofinwë said. “Who is the bastard here?”

For context, this isn't actually Nolvo talking, so if you didn't read it, shame on you, but you don't need to worry about a mean Nolvo.

So, I read this on my lunch break at work, and then I had to go back to work immediately after, and my mind was thinking about this. For some reason, my thoughts dwelled on Mary Tudor. (My literal thought was "I wonder if Mary and Elizabeth ever had a conversation like this". The answer is "not likely, but not impossible".)

For those who don't know who Mary Tudor is, she was the eldest child of Henry Tudor VIII and Catherine of Aragon (not to be confused with Aragorn, Eregon, or Eregion). They were all Catholic until Henry, desperate to justify his reign with male heir (technically, he ruled illegitimately, as his own father sort of usurped the throne during the War of the Roses, but you don't need to worry about that), but Henry needed a son, and Catherine was too old to have more children.

Solution: divorce and remarry.

But Catherine didn't cooperate. The Pope didn't cooperate. Her family didn't cooperate. In the end, Henry cut the Catholic church out of England and created the very cleverly named Church of England, of which he was the head of. He then divorced Catherine and married Anne Boleyn, Elizabeth I's mother. Mary was deemed illegitimate, and due to her refusal to accept Henry as the head of the church and his divorce to her mother as true, she was treated very poorly.

Later, after Henry and his only surviving son, Edward, died, Mary became the first ruling queen of England. Hér reign was short - only five years. She was given the name of Bloody Mary due to her persecution of Anglicans. That is incredibly unfair, as Henry, Edward, and Elizabeth did the same things, and even worse, to Catholics, but the victors write history, and Mary was most certainly not a victor.

What does this have to do with Fëanáro?

Like Henry, Finwë wasn't satisfied with a single child. Like Henry, Finwë asked permission from the person he perceived to have the highest authority - Manwë in this case. Finwë still ended up getting divorced and remarried. Fëanáro's short reign is not remembered particularly fondly primarily due to Alqualondë.

Look, I'm not saying it's one to one, but it definitely rhymes in some places.