#not loop specifically. the concept of them rather

[moonstandardtime]

Led

[chibishortdeath]

Hmmm I kinda want to make a side blog for RPG Maker game development related things to be able to talk to more experienced people in that community, but at the same time I both don’t really think I’d get much attention and don’t want to accidentally spoil my own game (^^ ; ).

I have a rough story, concept doodles, a tileset, some character sprites, an enemy that walks around but can’t initiate battle yet (if I even decide to have a battle system), a couple rooms with some events, and a functioning run button, but I’m still lost on how to do much else at the moment. Especially since this program has the ability for scripting, meaning I’ll probably have to learn and actually retain another coding language.

So, I’m not very far at all lol. Idk how well that’d go over on the established fandom website, but eh.

[theambitiouswoman]

11 Lessons from the book Atomic Habits 🌟

"Atomic Habits" focuses on incorporating small, consistent habits into our lives to bring about significant change over time. The book introduces a four-step model for building habits, emphasizing cues, cravings, responses, and rewards. It also guides you in overcoming bad habits and self-limiting beliefs, demonstrating how simple habits can lead to substantial progress toward our goals.

Lesson 1: Habits Over Hobbies: You are not inherently bad at your hobbies. Instead, it's the lack of consistent habits that has held you back.

Lesson 2: Identity Matters: Our self-image greatly influences our habits. While it's important, you shouldn't let it hinder your growth.

Lesson 3: Stacking Habits: The concept of habit stacking involves adding a new behavior to an existing habit, which can help you build a more effective morning routine.

Lesson 4: Embrace the System: Rather than solely focusing on goals, it's important to love the process—the journey itself. It's about embracing the system that leads to progress.

Lesson 5: Something is Better Than Nothing: Even small efforts are valuable. The "Two-Minute Rule" encourages starting new habits that take less than two minutes.

Lesson 6: Overcoming Boredom: Staying motivated in habits requires keeping them interesting and within the right level of challenge. "The Goldilocks Rule" emphasizes that tasks on the edge of our abilities are most motivating. Habits won't always be exciting, and that's okay.

Lesson 7: Bouncing Back from Misses: Missing a habit occasionally is normal, but missing it twice can turn into a new habit. The key is to rebound quickly, maintaining the compound gains from previous good days.

Lesson 8: Shaping Your Potential: Our genes affect what we're good at and the chances we get. Instead of feeling stuck by genes, we should use our strengths. Special traits are like superpowers. Questions in the chapter help us find what we care about. Quotes remind us to focus on self-improvement, not comparing. Genes alone don't bring success; effort matters. Genes give hints, but we shape our success by using our strengths.

Lesson 9: Creating a Supportive Environment: Our surroundings are important. If we change our environment to match the habits we want, we're more likely to succeed. By setting up our space to help our habits, we can make good habits easier. People often limit themselves by thinking they can't do better. He also says that just luck doesn't explain success – hard work does. Whether it's moving stuff around or using visual reminders, these changes can really help us succeed in the long run.

Lesson 10: Creating or Breaking Habits: The Four Steps

These four steps are the foundation upon which many of his ideas are built. They are not only applicable to creating positive habits but also to breaking negative ones.

Cue: This is the trigger that initiates a behavior. It can be a specific time, location, emotional state, or preceding action that prompts your brain to start a habit.

Craving: Craving is the motivation or desire behind a habit. It's the feeling that drives you to engage in the behavior triggered by the cue. It's important to understand the underlying craving to effectively change a habit.

Response: Response refers to the actual behavior that you perform as a result of the cue and craving. This is the action that you take in response to the trigger and motivation.

Reward: Rewards are the positive outcomes or feelings that you associate with completing the habit. They reinforce the habit loop by making you more likely to repeat the behavior in the future.

He explains that these four steps form a habit loop, where each step is interconnected. The loop starts with a cue, followed by craving, which leads to a response, and ultimately ends with a reward. If any part of this loop isn't satisfying, the habit is less likely to stick.

Lesson 11: Success is a product of daily habits and overnight success is not overnight:

Success is not a result of overnight transformations but is instead rooted in the daily habits we cultivate. By recognizing the power of consistent, incremental actions, we can build a solid foundation for lasting success. This perspective challenges the allure of instant success and encourages us to focus on the journey of continuous improvement through daily habits.

[ckret2]

I cannot wait to hear your thoughts on the poem about Euclydia/Bill's origins that Alex revealed at the end of the livestream! I immediately thought of your fic while reading it.

had to go dig up the poem so i'm including a link

it's basically what we already knew about his backstory set to rhyme, but there's a tiny smattering of new details and they're all good news to me.

Referring specifically to his attempts to talk about the third dimension as "preaching"? Check

Saying he "divided" his home—implying that a fair amount of people believed in him? Check

Confirming that he did what he did primarily for praise & attention—"for their sweet applause"? Check

It doesn't say he was a cult leader but it sure does add plenty more evidence you can use to say he could be—we're tilting ever closer to that being his most likely history. Another tally in the Yet Another Way This Fic I Started Over A Year Before TBOB Came Out Is Terrifyingly TBOB Compatible column.

I'm assuming that calling the other Euclideans "blind" is metaphorical (ignorant/specifically unable to see the third dimension) rather than literal—they seemed to have a concept of pictures, and the code that's consistently used to represent Euclideans speaking is a color code. And like... why would they have optometrists? Particularly with reading charts if vision is so rare that they'd have no reason to develop a visual language? How would a patient even be able to read the chart if they probably never had a teacher who could teach them to read a visual language??

Or, maybe when the poem was written, it was meant literally, and that's just a worldbuilding idea that was left on the cutting room floor along with the poem itself.

I also wonder if "town" is meant literally or if it was just chosen because it rhymes with "down" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I've wondered how large Euclydia is since we found that poem on TINAWDC—if they say that going off the top of the dimension makes you pop up on the bottom and off the left side makes you pop up on the right, then that must mean it's small enough that its people have traveled to its furthest boundaries and looped back to where they started. And the highest authority we've heard of from his dimension is the "mayor". Maybe Euclydia is the size of a town. Would definitely lend credence to it feeling restrictive, especially to someone who can see how much space there is outside of it.

Personally, I still think Euclydia's much larger—the first time Bill represents it, he depicts it as a planet, and we see that same planet again in TBOB—but you could make a case for it being tiny with no firm evidence to disprove the theory.

[ipso-faculty]

Infinity symbols: a guide to their variations

Infinity symbols are popular in graphic design for good reason. In this post, I'm gonna describe ways to vary up the designs of infinity symbols. My goal is to educate fellow neurodivergent people on how to make infinity symbols that don't look like the Métis flag.

The neurodiversity community has been using rainbow infinity symbols since 2005. Here are neurodiversity flags from 2013, 2016, and 2019:

However, there's a problem with some of the new flag designs for a flag that is autism-specific. Here are some of the contenders:

These use a solid white infinity symbol. The solid white infinity curve is a symbol of Métis.

The Métis flag, created in 1815, has a white lemniscate on red background. Nowadays the Métis use the blue version more often. And to the right is the Métis queer pride flag:

For those unfamiliar, the Métis are one of the major Indigenous groups in what is now Canada, with most of their >600,000 population in the western and central parts of the country. The word métis means half-breed in French; lower-case m métis refers to those with mixed Indigenous and European ancestry. Capital-M Métis refers to the specific culture of métis that emerged, distinct from both Indigenous and settler cultures, and speaking hybrid languages such as Michif.

The issue of likeness has been brought up many times. While I can believe the autistic flag makers didn't know about the issue when making their designs, I know at least one of them was promptly informed of the issue and dismissed it.

The autistic community writ large has been pretty dismissive about this issue. I wonder if some of the defensiveness comes from not seeing an alternative - thinking that infinity symbol design is all or nothing.

I have some good news: it's possible to make infinity symbols that don't look Métis!

HOW INFINITY SYMBOLS VARY (PART ONE)

ASPECT A: TOPOLOGY

The first way we can categorize infinity symbols is their topology. These four varieties are most common

Topology 1: Open infinity symbol - this is the oldest style of using a figure-8 shape to represent the mathematical concept of infinity. On the left is the version Euler used.

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Topology 2: Lemniscate - a closed curve. On the left is the Metis flag. The curve is one solid entity: notice how the rainbow gradient on the right fills the whole thing.

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Topology 3: Infinity *loop* -  imagine you take a hair tie or rubber band and twist it. One part of the infinity loop is clearly in front, with another part clearly behind it. Loops are well established for neurodiversity and I think we should stick to using these.

Notice in the left example how the pattern flips between left and right. Also compare the rainbow gradient on the right to the lemniscate rainbow gradient above it. -

Topology 4: Infinity *ribbon* -  instead of a hair tie, use a ribbon. Ribbons have sides, producing an infinity loop that shows two sides.

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ASPECT B: THICKNESS

Line width can vary, which also helps to convey a loop! Again, I think we should be sticking to infinity loops when it comes to autistic/ND designs.

Option 1: Constant Thickness The lemniscate on the Metis flag has a constant line width, as does this neurodiversity rainbow gradient from 2016. I think we should avoid constant thickness.

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Option 2: Variable Thickness A variable thickness can help to reinforce that an infinity symbol is a loop rather than a solid lemniscate. There are a lot of ways to play with line thickness!

Many neurodiversity infinities are variable thickness and I think we should opt for this to steer clear of Metis territory.

THIS WILL BE CONTINUED IN A SECOND POST (tumblr has a limit of 30 images per post)

But just in case the second post gets lost in reblogs: I think variable thickness, combined with a loop topology, is what we should be using for neurodiversity & autism. E.g.

CONTINUED IN NEXT POST

[oh-no-its-bird]

Mayhaps I want to ask about "genderfuck"

From this ask meme

Oh this is a fun one actually, like, in my heart. It's also an Ichigo one, full disclaimer, so

SUMMARY // Hatake Ichigo and the trials and tribulations of being a shinobi girl hitting puberty, who just so happened to have been born a boy. --- "Maybe I should just castrate myself." Ichigo sniffled. "Ichigo," Her mother sighed, still patient. "You are not allowed to try and castrate yourself till at least 20." "But it'll be too late by then!" She wailed.

I think I might have already posted this one snippet of it bc I remember thinking it was funny, but oh well Ill just post it anyways if that is the case.

But like, eunuch Hikaku mention:

"I bet Hikaku-sama would know how to castrate someone." Ichigo mumbled, kicking at the floor dejectedly, and her mother paused. "Why in the world would Uchiha Hikaku know how to safely castrate someone?" Ichigo stared at her mother blankly, who stared back with an equally confused expression. "Um, cuz he's a eunuch, right?" "Excuse me?" Ichigo frowned. "He had to chop of his own thing, for some mission in the Daimyo's court or something, right? Before he became clan heir?" "Where did you hear that?" "The twins told me!" Ichigo scowled, oddly miffed by her mother's doubt. "And you believed them?" Ichigo planted her fists on her hips. "Well when I asked Kagami, he believed it too! And every time after that when I mentioned it to people, no one argued!" "Hatake Ichigo," her mother began, setting down her knife with a soft clack onto the cutting board. Ichigo froze at her mothers dangerously level tone. "Have you been going around telling people that the Uchiha clan heir is a eunuch." "Um." Was all she could manage, finally realizing she may have messed up. Just a bit.

Anyways I thought it'd be fun to tackle being trans specifically set in early konoha, and all take a fun little peek at all the world building aspects I could possibly dig into with it!

I have an older post still buried in my drafts about my takes on how it's interesting to think ab how Konoha developing as a village might have impacted the trans experience of its shinobi and civillians— specifically from the standpoint of paperwork.

Thinking something along the lines of, earlier konoha had more unregistered home births and messy paperwork that also made it very easy to go in and change details of by simply going to an office and saying "Hey btw my mom filled out this form wrong when I was born. I'm a girl just so u know." And you'll just kinda get a shrug and a "oh ok cool, I'll change that then"

Vs more modern Konoha where you might get some more complicated loops to jump through and extra paperwork stating specifically that you are trans and would like to Officially Request (tm) a change in the presenting gender listed on your file and also would you like to sign up for our hormone therapy or any gender affirming surgery?

Just like. Thinking ab the little things and progression and changes through time (none specifically good or bad) at how things are done depending on the state of the village. Fun to think about

Sorry anyways:

For this oneshot, if I ever continue it, I also would have fun in playing with how different clans and groups see gender.

Like, Ichigo goes to the Orochi who are rather infamously gender apathetic and kinda just do their own thing as part of their clan culture.

The Shiranui make a cameo with their concepts of how gender can be used as a weapon and presenting yourself certain ways is just another tool in the box to play with for a shinobi

The Inuzuka come in w their matriarchal clan to talk ab the concept of womanhood or smthn quirky like that, I'm not too sure yet but I think it'd be neat if they were there

Just. Having fun exploring the ways different clans and their cultures view and interact with gender. Some clans are welcome to the concept of trans people, some clans legit just don't care, some clans have trans ideas built into their identity, others might think it a bit strange but ultimately not their buisness, etc.

Then also the differences between how shinobi clans treat gender and transness vs how civilians treat it (w the shinobi caring a whole lot less ab it all. Probably bc they have other things to worry about)

Early Konoha is already so ripe w potential as a melting pot of cultures meeting for the first time ever ,,, I wanna play with it.

I will say tho going into it and still now, I kinda just plan on steering clear of transphobia— if it were to appear it'd be in flashes and get a "damn, that's crazy. Anyways." Reaction from Ichigo as she goes back to asking Tobirama if he has a cure for her growing a beard

I like playing things as straight as possible and really leaning hard into "ok but what are ALL the reactions I can get out of this and how do I play with them" but I kinda just. Don't wanna write that. This'd be a fun, silly comedy about a ninja girl learning ab shinobi clan history and gender culture and I will indulge myself on that

ANYWAYS ! thank u for playing the ask game w me Domoz, sorry I dive bombed u w Ichigo for ur reply rip

[avissapiens]

Himbull Summer 2024

(Long post ahead but worth the read)

I was intending to do something like this again this year but a previous ask really started the gears turning into motion. I really consider last year’s Jockbull summer experiment to be one of the most impactful changes I've made in a lot of ways. I’m still feeling some of the impacts and changes in my life on a permanent basis. I’ve got new friends I made through the process, new appreciation of style and whole new skillsets that I wouldn't have developed otherwise. Which is why I'm super excited to do this again but with a few adjustments to refine the concept and hopefully reap even deeper rewards for my own growth. I will be running this from Nov 15th 2024 - Feb 15th 2025.

I’ll explain some of the adjustments very briefly before I explain the plan and how you all will be able to interact with it.

We’ve cut down from 15 tasks over 3 plans to just 8 over 2. 

This year by popular demand the archetype’s I’ll work on growing and encapsulating will be Himbo and Bull. This was voted on by the lovely paid Patreon supporters. With the final votes looking like this

I will only be doing 1 plan with a partner this year. That partner is Abgsado as we did last year and you all can keep track of his progress on discord in his own dedicated channel.

The plans

As I noted above this year rather than 3 plans of 5 tasks we only have 2 plans of 4.  15 tasks was way too much as evidenced by the fact that I would regularly only get a fraction done.

PLAN A

This is the more Bull-centric side of the Himbull summer, focused not just on taking the most of this current bulking period, but also on expanding and centering my mind to possibilities for growth. This is the plan Abg and I developed together using a structure of 1 personal task, 1 task granted by the other, 1 task we compete at, and 1 task where we took some inspiration from the discord community.

Task 1 is my personal task and will involve a stronger supplementation regime with the goal of increasing anabolism, libido, strength and focus over the coming months. What that entails on a practical basis is cycling 2 new supplements into my routine every month. Recording notable changes or improvements from baseline. And keeping consistent dosing schedules.

Task 2  was granted by Abg and focuses on playing around with atypical perspectives and archetypes for growth and change outside of my usual 5/6. I intend to do that by creating some more improvisational mini trances exploring some new growth/corruption-adjacent ideals. These will also be on a biweekly schedule and depending on how I feel released at different levels of exclusivity.

Task 3 is the competitive task for both Abg and I. We both want to expand our fitness socials on sites like Instagram and shift ourselves more into the muscle lifestyle sphere of influence.

Task 4 is the task synthesized from suggestions from discord. We’re gonna fuse the Himbo and Bull gym loops together and dedicate ourselves to listening to it on 2 training days per week. Let ourselves really get mindfucked by the muscle chaos.

PLAN B

 This is the more himbo coded plan. No specific structure however for this set 1 is a personal task and 3 were given by some of my top-tier himbo advisors. So big thanks to them, including @thejockout. Task 1 is the personal task. Similar to last year’s task regarding disposing of certain clothes, this year is going to be about purchasing things that I think are gonna draw more attention my way. I’m gonna aim for a new Himbo Aesthetic component every 2 weeks. And I’m going to force myself to wear each component at least twice in public, not just at the gym.

Task 2 is about making semi-permanent changes to my look in some form or fashion, beyond just clothes. These are gonna be fairly big so i think i might do them on a Monthly or maybe tri-weekly basis so i get 3-4 Big changes out of the process. Bit scared for this one.

Task 3 is gonna be interesting. It’s about putting myself forward to be used as a muscular physical being more often. Lifting, pushing, carrying. Doing the physical aspects of work. Very golden retriever farm boy himbo. “I can get that for you, ma’am. Not a problem”. Part of this summer I’ll be doing an internship at a lab. So in addition to being an academic weapon I’ve also gotta make sure this muscle is both functional and for show.

Task 4 focuses on being a bit more of a slut when I'm in public or around my friends. Putting a bit more sauce on my normal speaking voice, being a tiny bit more touchy feely with people who I know it's safe and kosher to do so with, flirting a bit more liberally.

Engagement

Like last year, I want you all to watch me and interact with this journey. But we’re changing it up a little this year. You’ll be able to get 4 different sources for this journey, all of varying intensity and completeness.

The standard base will be a monthly update released on tumblr synthesizing the whole month of activity with some notable events and reflections on them. These will be free and also probably either cross-posted or linked on Patreon. The next level will be more granular fortnightly updates available to all paid patrons, these will include some sticking points, things I’m struggling with. And I might even ask for suggestions for how to tackle tasks I have problems with. I will also like last year be doing fortnightly voice diaries which will likely be similar to the two above but maybe with some extra impromptu thoughts thrown in, again at the paid patreon tier.

And finally, in twitter’s dying gasp(not even gonna link it but you know how to find me) and a begrudging attempt to strike while the iron is hot on bluesky, I’ll also be doing a lot more frequent if less thought through crossposts on those two sites.

If you by any chance want to help me in any of these tasks and have a personal hand in molding me as I’ve molded you then I can provide two options for support. 1st, as always, consider subscribing to my Patreon at any paid tier, but the $5 level is imo the best value for money. 2nd, I have opened up a Throne account(wishtender 2.0) with specific wishlist items geared toward different HBS tasks(namely A1, A 3, and B1). It’d be really hot for everyone to have some of those get ticked off during the summer. And folks who help out in this way will get a shout out in the relevant update.

I really hope this is an amazingly fun experience for you all and an absolutely transformative one for me. At the end of this I’ll be going into my final Bachelor’s year in this country. I want to be the hottest, buffest, and best I've ever been for these super low stakes classes. Let's make it happen folks!

  (Models for this Himbull Summer are Kieran Yawson and Trkennet)

[dellamortethelesser]

I would like to know more about your de riva!!!

Oh god umm I don't know really where to start. andrea is very special to me but also very indulgent so i get a little uncomfy talking about them online ASLKDJ. i suppose i will try to sum up their concept and then if anyone wants me to elaborate i will lol.

andrea de riva is not a rook but an oc that i built up after drafting a rewrite for the crows and illario specifically, which you can read [here]. they're my zevistair (with a king alistair and trans zevran) kid who was stolen back by the crows as a young child as a warning for zevran to piss off and leave the crows alone.

andrea found out about this (being kidnapped rather than being an orphan, that is) and has been harboring a silent vengeance streak for a bit. they decide the correct answer is to hedge their bets and hold their cards close to their chest--getting back at the people responsible for taking them and lying about it is something that will take time and politics. that's when they choose to try to loop with illario :)

it's a powergrab relationship at first. andrea is a powerful mage (a spirit healer…which for the crows means torturer) who respects a clean kill and can make themself useful fast. they support illario in his own politics and thinks he has the makings of the first talon so their relationship takes off pretty fast.

this is kind of when it all blurs with my canon rewrite as it removes illario as being directly responsible for lucanis's disappearance/death but ultimately the 'powergrab' aspect of this relationship at some point gets overpowered by Real Feelings and they have to cope. there's an arranged marriage. there's a duel. there's a ruined wedding. many such antivan romance tropes. josephine montilyet walked so i could run. she'd yuck this up

also have some screenshots.

[wondercourse]

"I'm anti-endo and I want to protect pwCDDs!" but you call pwCDDs who disagree with you endogenic. But you exclude them from posts that aren't even CDD-specific and would be extremely helpful to hear as a trauma survivor. But you exclude them from posts that ARE CDD-specific, even though they have a CDD. But you say you wish they'd disappear along with endogenic systems. But you tell them to kill themselves.

Somehow, I have this strange gut feeling that this isn't about "protecting pwCDDs".

And for the record, this post isn't meant to be taken as "DIRECT YOUR ANGER TOWARDS THE ENDO MENACE" because your treatment of endogenic systems as a monolithic concept you don't understand and don't like and therefore think should be eradicated, rather than...fucking human beings is gross too. It just drives me up a wall to hear a lot of "Endos are hurting pwCDDs" along with that. Like...

Excluding them from CDD spaces isn't hurting them?

Telling them they don't belong isn't hurting them?

Saying you wish they'd disappear/die isn't hurting them?

Telling them to kill themselves isn't hurting them?

Or is it just the "real" pwCDDs? The ones that check all of your boxes?

Is it even about pwCDDs at all anymore?

Honestly I've been taking a small step back from active syscoursing, but y'all are far, far too comfortable behind your screens. Most of you would never say the things you do to someone's face; if you would, you need to get it together and start seeing your fellow humans as...fellow humans.

I don't even know if this is worded well. I'm just tired. Syscourse is a flat circle. It's an endless loop of droning nonsense that honestly just makes people miserable. It brings out such disturbing behavior and it's just so...tiresome.

TL;DR, do better, etc.

[concerningwolves]

this last week really has had me thinking a lot about why Loki is popularly conceptualised as a queer figure over any of the other Norse gods. part of me thinks it's not That Deep:

Loki is a more obviously transgressive figure, both in terms of his trickster aspect and in terms of him doing stuff that explicitly crosses gender binaries (see: transforming himself into a mare and giving birth to Sleipnir in this form). He is also often represented as an outsider. All of which are things that lend themselves well to a queer reading.

These same characteristics are also present in his Marvel comics counterpart – a very popular character who, depending on the comic, may be anything between coded or canonically written as queer. Fandom also loves to blur the bounds of marvel Loki and Norse mythology Loki, gleefully playing with the two in a space that is already radically queer, so that one feeds into the other.

Rick Riordan also ran with obviously queer Loki in his Magnus Chase series, further cementing Loki as a queer figure in a fairly mainstream social arena, and attracting more people to Norse mythology with this conception of Loki already in their minds, creating another feedback loop similar to the one mentioned above.

But it's the second part of that question – why Loki over any of the other Norse gods – that I really need to scratch at rn. There is rich evidence for Odin as a queer figure, too, but this isn't something I encounter much outside of scholarly discussion. And again, it may not be that deep, because (1) the arguments purporting Odin's queerness are scholarly, so not something most people would come across, and (2) the evidence given is drawn more from archaeology and sagas, rather than the popular stories that serve as most people's gateway to Norse mythology. E.g, the main argument for Odin as queer is:

Viking society had strict ideas about how social status and gender intersected. Unmanliness was deeply taboo. Laws made later in the viking period and into the medieval tell us that a lot of these taboos were enshrined in law – e.g., wearing clothes of another gender could invite legal repercussions.

Odin practises seid, a kind of ecstatic (i.e., ritual) magic mostly associated with discerning the future.

Seid was, as far as we understand it from archaeology and other sources, something that women practised. A female art, in other words, and not something that men did.

It is therefore interesting that Odin, someone who generally embodies what we consider to be the viking ideal of manhood, uses seid.

(bonus point: Extant descriptions of seid rituals also link it with fertility, and the rituals can have an erotic air; men who practised seid could be called ergi, a serious insult that implied they were the receptive/submissive party in gay sex. This means Odin not only moves beyond the gender binary, but embodies a challenge to norms of sexuality as well)

So unless you're someone who already has this context, Odin's use of seid would just seem like another instance of magic in stories already full of magic. It's also a (somewhat sad imo) fact that modern retellers of Norse mythology tend to draw on the same set of stories, usually those from the Prose Edda or Poetic Edda because these form the neatest & most coherent sense of narrative [1]. That, and mythology retellings are usually aimed at children and young teens, the effect of which is twofold –

stories such as Odin's rape of Rind, which involve him disguising himself as a woman, are unlikely to be included because they're hard to make age-appropriate. This lessens their popularity and public prominence, so people are often unaware of them.

Retellings are heavily coloured by the teller's beliefs and politics[2], and specifically in this case by what they consider appropriate for a child: Anything queer is often considered inherently "adult" and therefore Not child-friendly. However, the story of Thor disguising himself as Freya is ok because it reinforces how men and women are separate and any attempt to cross that binary makes you into a fool; Loki is often written as an evil or even satan-like figure, which makes it acceptable to use him as an example of queerness = deviant and wrong, etc.

Still, I can't help wondering if the popular conception of Odin as the manly warrior god has been a barrier, too. In many online leftist queer spaces these days, manhood has started being seen as the antithesis of queerness; as the gross privileged oppressor gender. (Which is such a hilariously out of touch concept, considering that queer men's masculinity is attacked because of their queerness, and factors such as race, religion and (dis)ability also radically change just how much privilege being a man will grant). There is a real problem with images of gender fluidity, transness and gender non-conformity centering thin, feminine (often white!) and attractive people. Many people's concepts of "non-binary" actually just describe "female presentations but slightly to the left". In that mindset, the bearded guy with a warrior's build, who isn't typically described as attractive, cannot be queer. He is too masculine. Hyper-masculine, even – as if nobody with incredibly masc presentation can possibly be any flavour of queer. It's the entire punchline for why Thor pretending to Freya is so funny (a punchline that is just a transphobic punch for many transfem people).

So yes, I have to ask if this is part of why Loki is usually the only Norse god who gets the queer treatment in pop culture. Because it's easier to create from him a queer figure who is more palatable to modern tastes, whereas Odin still poses a challenge to our concepts of what queerness should be today, even though we have moved on a long way from the social attitudes of the viking age..

[1] all of our records of the Norse myths kind of count as retellings btw and are absolutely shaped by the social context in which they were recorded and the beliefs of the writers. E.g., Snorre represents Odin more favourably while Saxo writes him less favourably. It is very hard to know how people in the viking age thought of the gods and myths and religion.

[2] viking history and Norse mythology (or a flattened, idealistic version of these) have been co-opted by Nazis, neonazis and other groups who idolise the image of white hyper-masculine supremacy that they see in these, too. I think the public perception of viking culture has been recovering but misconceptions about who the vikings were & how they lived still linger, and the impressions of 20th & 21st century bigoted attitudes that were superimposed onto Norse history are still visible.

[offshore-brinicle]

I don't know much about Iori, but do you think that she'd end up in/directly opposing Hermann, given the latter's 'wanting to destroy the mirror worlds' thing?

It would also be a nice way to loop her back into the story so Vergie can suffer again and also because she is very pretty.

I mean, it's pretty heavily implied Iori is somehow connected to the events of Limbus with Ruina's deleted ending scene having her propose making a company of E.G.O users to the Hana Association, and Lion, Panther and Wolf were her underlings too as said by Vergillius and the color of their name tags & outfits including these purple snake things in their designs, they are better seen in Vellmori's concept art since it seems she was actually the character designer for these three in specific rather than Nai_Ga like usual going by these sketches

Actually even more interestingly in the topic of Iori and her power of travelling through multiple possibilities and how that is definitely connected to the mirror worlds there's a few details pointed out by Korean users

In Ruina, all of the guests to the library have their own icon/emblem/logo representing them, Iori being such a big deal as The Purple Tear gets her own, and now fastforward to Limbus and compare and contrast the shape of Iori's logo to Yi Sang's mirror he showed the League, a purple circle framed by three lines in the exact same angle.

Even more is that some time ago I came across a tweet pointing out this detail from an official Iori standee where she's seen reading a book which on closer inspection the user had figured out was in fact meant to be a copy of the original Korean text of The Wings (I can no longer access the tweet since they seem to have deleted their account or changed @, but I had the image saved the image comparison on Discord. I looked into it and it was released last November too but the preview pic is so small I can't get a better look

Either way thanks for giving me an excuse to share this information I deadass always forget to talk and I think it's extremely interesting and way too specific for it all to be coincidental

[ceilidho]

do u have a specific way u approach writing? i find it hard to articulate my own thoughts into words so i’m kinda curious 😭

hm not really these days! Something that I’ve been finding very helpful though is having a running list of ideas in one note in my Notes app and having a separate note filled with words that I’m interested in using or concepts and, if they happen to occur to me, full sentences. I always manage to sneak them into something. I also always have a list of scenes or tiny ideas or dialogue that I want to use. I think it makes sitting down to write easier because you have a list of things to pull from rather than just staring at a blank page.

Also sometimes I write in my notebook by hand and other times I type. Depends on if I feel like my brain is too jammed up because some days I feel like it’s easier to get my thoughts out on paper.

I think there are also a couple things that are crucial to keep in mind while writing: 1) the first pass can suck, it doesn’t have to be good and you can always edit or look up a better word later (which is way better than just stuck in a loop of googling “___ synonym” every five words), and 2) there isn’t a right way to tell a story so whatever it most interesting to you is what you should be writing down. Whether that’s the scenery or the dialogue or an internal monologue or the character’s actions.

I also write completely out of order like I’ll skip over paragraphs and start an entirely different part of the story or end a sentence in the middle of it if I can’t figure out how to end it (as long as the idea is kind of there so I’m not confused when I come back later). I don’t know if any of this is helpful. I really do think becoming obsessed with words is the key thing though. Like look at my current list :)))

[yuri-is-online]

Hello yuri, first time anon here 👋👋.

Love your works. They converted me into an aceyuu stan lol. But also consider:

Aceyuu to "Rewrite the stars" from the greatest showman.

It could be the time loop au, soul bond au, or just regular au. It could just be in the song's regular pov (Yuu having their hands tied by going home and not wanting to break Ace's heart or Ace literally defying and turning back time to keep Yuu alive despite the prefect's inevitable death) .

but imagine the singers could also be swapped (like Yuu being the first voice that says their love could work, and Ace being hesitant to outright act on his feelings (and still failing)).

I've just been fed this vision of a brainrot for the past 3 days and I don't know what to do with it XDD.

Lots of love and stay hydrated 💞.

|˶˙ᵕ˙ )ﾉﾞ hello annon nice to have you here. I would apologize for inflicting aceyuu brain rot upon ye but I would not have received this ask and I happen to rather like your idea. There are so many good songs for aceyuu and this one is an easy add to the list. Given how the stars are literally able to grant wishes and astrology is very real it's especially fitting! Yuu's stars spell out a grim fate indeed, it would be an impossible task to rewrite them alone. Lucky they don't need to do that ¬‿¬

Now let's see...

Honestly, both povs suit both Ace and Yuu, especially in the time loop au. I can easily see Yuu pleading with him to accept their fate, not because they don't want to be with him but because they can't stand seeing him destroy himself over and over again. "You know I want you//It's not a secret I try to hide//But I can't have you" But Ace, he's just so determined to save you specifically that nothing else matters so he keeps. Going. At it. To the point we get to that classic Madoka/Amnesia trap where both Ace and Yuu are sacrificing something to save the other because the stars decided to give them opposing fates. Ace wants to save Yuu, who wants to save Ace who wants to save Yuu who wants to save Ace who can stop me if I decide//That you're my destiny? No one, that's the answer. Something else has to give because it isn't going to be either of these stubborn bitches.

Same with normal timeline stuff. Ace is singing the second pov out loud but the first one is more in line with his actual feelings. He would complain the entire time, but he would rewrite fate for you and claim he just happened to be in the area. Yuu's actual attitude is up to the player's interpenetration, but I like a Yuu who gets so frustrated with Ace's one step forward two steps back that they sing the first pov out loud even though they're very conflicted about going back home. Sort of like how both singers fall into a blended pov at the end. Both of them want to rewrite the stars, but have doubts about if it is possible. Doesn't mean they won't try.

SoulBond au Yuu more fits the second pov. Especially the bit about "not [being] the one you were meant to find." Yuu really thinks there has to have been a mistake, if they were meant to be with Ace why weren't they born in Twisted Wonderland? They're going to get sent back eventually won't they? That would just be too cruel a fate for anyone. Ace though... he has this voiceline in his Master Chef card where he says if he is told he is not supposed to do something that's just a guarantee he's going to do it (he's such a youngest child ◔_◔) and that doesn't change just because it's soulbond bs. Sure, he might not be crazy about the concept but he is crazy about you, and just because you might have your doubts and he might not have made the best first impression but your bound. No one, not the stars, not Crowley, not whatever gods exist in your world or his get to say what you are to each other because you can both feel the truth. You're soulmates, bound by a strange magic most consider a curse, and that won't be stopped by something as trivial as you being from a different world.

c: thank you for the ask annon

[gorbalsvampire]

Gehenna War

It's pretty neat, yo.

Like Blood-Stained Love, it transforms the core "personal and political" horror of Vampire into another subgenre. Unlike Blood-Stained Love, it has a lot of concrete advice for Storytellers on structuring scenes, assembling pools, building characters to interact with, and making that subgenre work at the table.

An effort has been made, here. There's a little chart in the introduction claiming that Chapters 2 and 3, and the Appendices, will be of use to any action chronicle, be it more high concept or street level, and having read the durn things I think that claim's borne out. I'm gonna talk about those sections first, and later loop back around to the specifically Gehenna War stuff.

Chapter 2 has neat archetypes for characters in various armed conflict roles - generals, spies, intelligencers, recruits, veterans - with recommendations for priority stats rather than statblocks, so these can be flipped for player or Storyteller use. Suggestions for bonus XP amounts if you want more powerful starting characters, and focused specialisations that advise you to focus particular areas of your character sheet - almost like soft classes, or playbooks. A handful of new Merits and Flaws (one of which is getting slammed onto Penny), and a mixed bag of Discipline powers. Bloodform is back? Woo! There are "reroll Rouse checks for raising this one Attribute or using this one Discipline" openers for the Physical Disciplines? Swing and a miss, more filler. There's two incredible new high-end Blood Sorcery rituals (I shall be using both of them very soon), and some funky Thin-Blood Alchemy if you want your Duskborn to join a Methuselah cult.

Then: advice on running Basic Combat, and explicit guidance on the modularity of the Advanced Combat rules, and a few new ones. This is brilliant stuff for new Storytellers, reflective of the demand for the Combat Primer, and it's given me some ideas I didn't have before, and ALSO. VINDICATION. OBSERVE.

One of the things that waters down play over time is if the characters need to build the same dice pool every time for the same task. To avoid this, Storytellers should vary the traits involved according to the situation, to keep things interesting and to curb players trying to optimize their pools.

Leaving aside that awful syntax at the start - "Play becomes predictable if the characters need to build the same dice pool every time they attempt a task" - activate your voice, and dismiss "is" clauses, you cowards! - anyway, leaving that aside, this is how I've been doing things all along and I love that a book explicitly says "do it and don't get hung up on the exact RAW every time."

Car chase mechanics, cute new gear (I like the Scourge Blades, nasty-ass duelling swords that delay vampiric healing). Then it's on to story advice!

Chapter Three does something I wish Blood-Stained Love had done for romance: getting into the structure of action stories, how action interacts with other genre qualifiers (crime, horror, survival, thriller etc.), the escalating role of villains - like, actual formalist thinking about how stories work. We then get some mechanical advice on how to shift the mode of play, how to approach things like Hunger and Frenzy to make them more or less of a factor. It's short, but it's fuckin' GOOD.

Appendix I is all about dice. When you should and shouldn't roll, as opposed to taking half. Grouping those moments into broad types by what they do to the emergent story. How to add variation with tracker rolls or unusual dice pools. How to manage failures on tests and what to offer players to keep the story moving. And, most important of all, how to deal with the Beast, going through each Skill and showing how the Beast impacts a Messy Critical (still a success, remember!) or a Bestial Failure.

You need this Appendix. The corebook needed this appendix. Maybe it took six years of best practice and sharing ideas to get these ideas fully understood. Maybe if there'd been one dev team since the start we might have had this sooner. At least we have it now.

I'll talk about the Gehenna War itself in a follow-up post. That's Chapters One, Four, Five and Six, and Appendix II.

[arirovi]

A reflection...

I knew BnHA in 2016. The first season was finished and the second season was expected. I was in the University and still working for my degree. Mi personal life and the world in general was so much different...

There was no sign of a pandemic coming, Tumblr was still not undergoing a content purge, and the anime community was much less widespread than today. Then i walked trough the fandom path, to put it more simply, as an observer rather than an active participant.

And just by watching, one learns many things.

In particular, I want to refer to the expectations with which we all approach a series, a story. And also how these change over the years, how they are built on the emotions that certain parts of the plot provoke in us.

First off all, I want to cover expectations for the bnha plot in general.

I've seen various parts of the fandom enjoy BnHA from different points, because it's those parts that resonate with them the most. Some from Izuku's mentor-protege relationship with All Might, others from the focus of pure and simple Heroism, some from the tragedy that is the villains' past and others from the trauma and abuse represented by the Todoroki.

We have all done it from a valid point of view and, naturally, we all build expectations.

Some lucky ones are lucky enough that what they expected to happen happens in the end (and I am happy for you from my own experience), but when those expectations are not met by the original material, it hurts a lot. More than one of us may have seen it happen again and again, experienced it firsthand.

Because at the end of the day, it doesn't matter which part of the story we are most engaged in, we all reach, in some way, a point where our expectations are either not met (if we are unlucky) or forgotten or not allowed (if we consider it a representative injustice). But in the end what counts is that as fans we all experience this phenomenon at the same time (to a lesser or greater extent) and in its own way it is a type of social bond that is not forgotten.

(And I'm not saying that it's something merely negative or positive, it can be both at the same time AND it's just a fact, something that is happening to all of us who follow BnHA no matter how long we have been in the fandom)

So, now that the end is approaching and I am faced with different opinions about it, it is like living in a loop of collective emotional repetitions and it is such an incredible phenomenon that in itself, it makes me want to share my thoughts when I didn't before.

Which brings me to the other point I wanted to talk about: shipping expectations and Bakudeku

At that time (2015 onwards) the concept of "queerbaiting" was quite popular, while at the same time, so was the idea that your queer ship could become canon. In fact, it was strong enough to cross the borders of fandom.

But even with this in the mainstream, we BakuDeku seemed to remain on our side of the fandom, always in defense mode. The most vocal on social media represented a group of followers who didn't care how toxic the mere idea of ​​this Ship was to others. The only thing that we cared about was that we liked their interactions, the intensity and the paradoxes between Kacchan and Deku.

In 2016 it was not popular to be a BakuDeku, much less accepted by the general public. And even among fans of the characters, being a specific DekuBaku was a rarity.

And so time went by.

As you can see and in hindsight, expectations for the Ship were very low from my perspective. What we expected from the story was so little that the minimal interactions between Izuku and Kacchan seemed to be assimilated quite carefully and mainly in spaces dedicated only to the ship.

Furthermore, the sparking discussion about whether "bakudekus were apologists for abusers" attracted so many antis and haters that the whole thing became horrible. At one point, blocking them was no longer enough to be safe from hate. And being part of the fandom required so much energy that even I, who was just a shadow who liked or reblogged content in the fandom, needed to control my exposure time to social media.

And what happened next, to reach the expectations that the fandom has now?

The pandemic of 2020 and Bakugo Katsuki: Rising.

That chapter, added to the new influx of fans brought by the pandemic and its quarantines, diverted the path that we believed was set for Kacchan and Izuku as a group. Suddenly, many things that we thought only belonged to the realm of fanfic became accessible through canon.

To begin with, no one imagined that kind of sacrifice on Kacchan's part in the manga. Nobody believed the hospital scene was possible, nor that it was possible for him to ask Izuku for forgiveness or to cry for the loss of his quirk (and what that meant for both of their lives).

How could expectations not rise in the collective because of this, both old and new fans? How to avoid it for those of us who live through its darkest times as fans? How to control the hope of those who feel vindicated by the narrative?

In the end, the nature of expectations is fluctuating over time, unpredictable if we do not pay attention to them, and I am not here to tell anyone, not even myself, that having high expectations about something is bad. Or that having hope about something that helps you be happy is dangerous in the long term. Even if my past in other fandoms resulted in a painful and impossible to forget ending, I can't do that.

No one has the right to comment on the emotions of others and how they live them, how they express them. However, after eight years here, I have learned to use caution as a weapon of battle.

And how I do it? Taking a step back and looking at the bigger picture.

It's been a long road for all of us who were here from the beginning. We had ups and downs and we will continue to have them without a doubt.

Personally, I hold my expectations with a comfortable, soft and practical harness, to bring them closer, caress them from time to time and let them be. But at other times, I hold them tight so they don't get out of control.

The final idea of ​​this, and what I have learned over time, is that you should not assert yourself at any extreme. Mental, emotional and physical health is in balance, it has been proven many times.

I have hope, but I glimpse it in moderation and if we are lucky and our expectations are fulfilled, I will celebrate with joy. But if in the end these are not fulfilled, I will remember the good as well as the disappointment, although without pressure. After all, everything returns to a better place in its own time.

[umbran6]

The Perils of a Divine Childhood

Looping in @stillcarmine. You've awakened the beast. Specifically, my headcanon beast. I didn't want to reblog this in your post because I didn't want to override it. I'm riding on the concept that Leo is still a son of Hera but with a bit more of a twist than Leo being a biological child born from her breaking her marriage. Still, for those who want to see it, I have attached the link here.

In this situation, Leo is very different from my previous headcanon, in which he was Hera's champion. Instead of being a demigod chosen by Hera to act as her champion, Leo is born in a unique way akin to how Hephaestus was born from Hera. Hera resents Zeus for breaking his marriage oaths again and endangering Olympus by shattering the pact of the Big Three, an anger that burns her from the inside out. Thus, blinded by resentment and heartbreak, she decides to create Leo.

However, this is a very different Hera compared to Riordan's interpretation, a Hera who has matured beyond the days when white-hot fury would grasp her heart each time she saw another child of Zeus. She regrets falling back into her patterns of fury but knows that she cannot abandon Leo. She hides her pregnancy from the gods, but the night Leo is born, she does not repeat history. Instead, she spirits him away, entrusting him to Esperanza Valdez when her own pregnancy by Hephaestus turns out horribly wrong. Hestia is the only Olympian Hera trusts with the truth, for her sister had never betrayed her.

God? Well, whatever he is, he grows up as a rather unique child. Though he takes to machinery, it's more out of sheer desire to imitate his supposed mother than anything. Beyond that, he focuses on the sky - not the storms or the bolts of lightning that descend from the heavens, but the stars that glow at night, the gravity emitted by the planet he stands on, and the rockets alongside satellites that humanity sends out to reach beyond the blue horizon. Though he is not aware, his connection to the stars is perhaps not just a childlike wonder but him sensing his connection to his mother's domain.

He's wise beyond his years and does his best to be the picture of a perfect child. This budding desire to be seen as perfect spurs him to develop a social insight that, although most adults don't vocally comment on it, find disturbing. He also values promises yet knows there are times when people can't keep them or decide to break them. He doesn't get outwardly angry, yet the environment feels the subtleties of his frustration. Floating leaves suddenly fall flat to the ground. The kids who try to bully him suddenly collapse as if they had tripped on something. Nothing big, but Leo feels as if this is connected to him. Esperanza tells him that it's karma. And in a way, it is. After all, what is karma, aside from the divine consequences of a wrong? It's a mystery that Esperanza wants to keep, one that Leo is starting to unravel, and one that Hera pours gasoline into the proverbial fire.

He also loves being visited by his tia, who spoils him in multiple ways. She takes care of him, encouraging his creativity and intelligence by bringing him books from across the world. When he's old enough, she teaches him how to cook and use the knives he wields to defend himself. When he's old enough, she takes him for archery and fencing. She gives him sweets, gets him a book that catches his eye and takes him on field trips a bit farther than your usual visit to the local museum. She also plays a significant role in his education, teaching him the world's mythologies and history.

She also teaches him to control his power. He learns to keep things firm to the ground, allow balls to bounce higher than lower, and ensure that his arrows always shoot straight. Hera's smile is evident when a boulder levitates in front of her, carried by. Leo's power alone. He doesn't spill it to his supposed mother. After all, he promised to keep it a secret for Tia. And he always did his best to keep his promises.

Unfortunately, each Leo Valdez has a specific moment in their own life. If I may be so bold, it's their canon event. It all collapses when he's eight years old. In this case, quite literally. Gaea still visits him, warned by Medea, though she is clueless about the child's true nature. She swarms him, preying on his fears, and drives his senses to a panic. Instead of the warehouse engulfed by all-burning fire, the building collapses around him. It's not the ground burying him but gravity itself that shatters his surroundings. And with it, Esperanza is buried beneath the rubble, a victim to both her adopted son's power and Gaea's manipulations.

However, though some events resonate across the multiverse, there can still be changes. Leo awakens to a warm bed, and for a second, he thinks he's back in his room. He doesn't know that Hera spirited him away from the ruins, and that in the eyes of the mortal world, he died when the warehouse collapsed. He only thinks that everything before was a cruel dream. He eagerly anticipates his mom's arrival, hoping she will walk through the door and bring him to school, where he will sneak one of the books Tia gave him so the teacher's lecture doesn't bore him to death.

Then Tia walks through the door, and the illusion collapses as Tia hugs him. Everything is frantic as he can't control himself, that he should've controlled himself, that despite everything he learned, he failed, and he knows what happened to his mom, and —

He hates it. He hates that he failed. He hates that he lost control. This feeling crawls into his heart amidst the tears pouring from his eyes. And when he tries to bring back control, to stop his sobbing, and to sit straight like his mom told him to, a thought burrows itself in his mind. Never again. He could not lose control; he would not.

Days later, when Hera believes he's ready, she tells him the truth—not of his birth, not yet, but of the world of gods and monsters he lives in and the true nature of the enemy they now face. They don't know how long they have, but the least she can do is get him ready for the imminent return of Gaea. And though Leo still blames himself, he is in a better state of mind because of Hera's support, determined to prepare for the challenge ahead.

Now that I've carved out an image of this new variant of Leo, I get into speculation. This is because Leo is a different person compared to his canonical self. This is due to my decision to add some of Hera's traits. Her perfectionism and focus on promises—bits and pieces of those traits leak into Leo because of his true nature. And, of course, a focus on control. This flaw seems more natural for Leo - his life was ruined because he lost control, so an obsession with control and order would be a more organic fatal flaw that is both understandable in origins and significantly impacts the narrative.

There are a few routes I would look into with this Leo. Hera can train him before she brings him into Camp Half-Blood before Percy's arrival. Here, he can connect with Annabeth and Luke, forming strong bonds that will be tested or broken. When The Lightning Thief starts, he can act as a supporting protagonist for Percy, volunteering for the son of Poseidon's quest out of empathy for the trauma Percy went through. When Luke betrays Camp Half-Blood, Leo dedicates himself to hunting down the son of Hermes and stopping him from hurting anyone else. Of course, the plot of PJO still happens, but Luke is under more pressure because of Leo's relentless pursuit. Each time Luke attempts to gather more allies, Leo, with his enhanced abilities and connections to the gods, singlehandedly slaughters them when he has the chance.

Or, we can have Hera send him to monitor Piper and Jason when her trade gambit goes horribly wrong. Leo, in his unwavering loyalty to Hera, acts as her spymaster, keeping both demigods oblivious to his true nature while ensuring the quest is on the right track no matter how he may feel about the deception. This Leo is more isolated, for although he has acquaintances among the divine, he never makes a true friend and has no intention to do so as long as Gaea is still a threat to them.

This variant of Leo has a fatal flaw that makes him a unique social antagonist to some of the Big Three's children, for it can easily be triggered. His desire for control and his distrust for those who disrupt it. When his questmates deviate from the agreed plan or worsen the situation, Leo's response is not immediate anger. Instead, he strategically maintains a sympathetic and kind facade while planning and waiting for the right moment to retaliate.

Leo's respect for the gods, a trait instilled in him by Hera, often leads to conflict with demigods who are cavalier or dislike their distant parents. Unlike many demigods, Leo has no reason to resent the gods. He can empathize with those who have good reasons for their behavior. However, he does not fully agree with them, maintaining his own distinct viewpoint.

I mean, think about it. If Leo is involved in PJO, he will not share Percy's loyalty towards his friends, for he does not have that same unwavering trust due to his desire for control. When Percy sends Medusa's head to the gods? All bets are off. He decides to go with Clarisse to the Sea of Monsters and is barely restraining his fury when he realizes that not only did Percy and Annabeth follow them, but he missed the opportunity to kill Luke.

When Leo learns that the Giants plan to turn Piper into their spy, he immediately turns against her, for Enceladus can always pull Piper's strings. He beats himself up when the Argo II cannot make it in time and even more when the Eidolons make the first meeting of the Greek and Roman camps turn into a declaration of war. When Percy and Annabeth are about to fall into Tartarus, Leo does his best to fight against The Pit's pull, using all of his power and will to resist, yet for the sake of drama and irony, he still fails to save them. Rubs hands together - Oh that will be quite interesting to write.

Anyways, what take do you guys have about this? Please let me know because I can't get this idea out of my head.