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what made you choose red for this account?
I'm 11 days late to this (oops) but I do wanna answer this: Honestly I just like The Vampire by DECO*27 a lot and I think the art for the MV is super cute!! So I themed my account around it :3
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There were a couple times where I thought about changing it but decided not to, I fear vampire Miku is just too much of an icon I love how she looks lol
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Since I've seen more stuff about how different traumagenic CDD systems & endogenic systems are and highlighting differences between them lately:
Other traumagenic CDD systems, what's something you have in common with endogenic systems?
I'll share first
Personally, a few things are me is that I also prefer to see my systemhood as being individuals sharing a body & brain similar to what many non-traumagenic plurals see themselves (although not all do).
I also have spiritual beliefs that affect how I view my plurality & my system has alters who's formation was intentionally influenced, mainly in the way they formed, and who we consider created in a sense. So I particularly feel similarity to spiritual and created plurals even though both those parts of my plurality are still directly trauma based so I still consider my plurality purely traumagenic.
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it's becoming increasingly obvious to me that the anti willo/radendo people are just anti endos in disguise making pitiful attempts to divide the plural community.
only engaging with the community to talk about how much they hate created plurals
the only evidence ever brought forward is faked screenshots
all other alleged evidence is based in hearsay, witness testimony is the weakest form of evidence
fundamentally believing that plurality is inherently a disability. which has... not been a belief of plurals at large since even before the coining of endogenic. the "natural multiplicity movement" even before the age of the internet made the distinction that they are not disabled by this aspect of themselves.
heavy reliance on appealing to emotion. they compare created plurals to radqueers, and they can't solidly define what radqueers believe. there's an alleged pipeline, but any alleged proof is always said to be in a place where no one else can verify it. comparisons to cults, pedophiles, and using the foreign invader of the community steretope. all appeals to emotion without making posts to detail the arguments with proof that others can verify
a heavy reliance on respectability politics. although aimed at created plurals first, since anti endos usually consider them to be the worst, these anons are also against spontaneous systems and protogenic systems explicitly. i believe that if they do accomplish their goals of dividing the community to turn against created plurals, that they would then aim for protogenic or spontaneous systems to try and get the community to divide even further
so. yeah i really don't believe these anons when they say they're pro endo. going against the very beliefs of the community that have been around since the very start? the invaders here are these anons, wolves wearing a piss poor attempt at a sheep costume to try and get the herd to seperate.
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dude i did not mean to disappear off the face of tumblr for so long lol. oops
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To Honor our Past
The first thing I had planned after the brackets were finished was a bonus round. This will not affect the 2025 winner — Freezing Cold System Takes took the win, no questions asked.
But there was one individual who was nominated no less than 5 times before I had to make a post about it. And I think it’s only fair to see what happens.
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Haven't been on here due to Project SEKAI yuri event tiering (a little) and also playing Persona 5 after finally saying "fuck the ooze all my homies hate the ooze". Ngl I just have had no desire to 'course lately :(
#a delusion of dawn#also therapy stuff is happening#and i don't talk about therapy stuff publicly XD
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a lot of people in syscourse are very traumatized and havent worked through their trauma feelings as much as they thought they have. the way other people live their lives does not actually affect your life as much as you think it does.
a random person living their life isnt why that person hurt you the way they did
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Anyways
I hope all child parts and littles can heal in a way that's best for them, and they can live a life without fear where they can express themselves
Protecting child parts doesn't mean locking them in a bubble. Encourage healthy growth where possible
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Just your daily reminder that non-traumagenic/endogenic does not mean someone isn't traumatized. It doesn't mean that someone did not experience significant childhood trauma. That is not part of the definition. That is all.
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Oop another one—
“Sometimes, people say they have DID/OSDD, but they’re mistaken, and that’s okay.”
Some of yall: Yeah, that’s absolutely true, this is a fine take.
“Sometimes, people say they have DID/OSDD, but they’re mistaken and are actually endogenic, and that’s okay.”
Those same people: HOW DARE YOU FUCKING FAKECLAIM PEOPLE!!!
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i think the worst part about the “if you worry that ur faking it means you arent!!” discourse that ive seen is that it treats “faking” and “misinterpreting” to be the same thing when they absolutely are not. it also feeds into the external validation problem i think a lot of systems struggle with.
i also get annoyed when the claims of misinterpreting symptoms are only thrown onto the patient and never the doctor. i’ve been misdiagnosed by doctors in ways that put my life at risk, yet i don’t think i’ve seen people truly talk about how doctors frequently misinterpret symptoms their patients have, both in physical and psychiatric contexts
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Sorry for the slight spam I finally have energy to catch up today lol
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"i've got this idea on how to solve syscourse! what if endogenic systems weren't actually systems-"
that's the entire basis of what originscourse is about. you're not solving anything, i'm sorry.
nontraumagenics have plurality, headmates, and so on.
traumagenic have alters, multiplicity, and so on.
people with mixed experiences may use a variety of terms.
at least try and have a conversation with us about our experiences where we are at, instead of dictating what terms should fit us when you don't understand us. you don't talk to us, you don't read any of our experiences, you straight up don't believe us about what we experience.... and you think you're qualified to say what everyone that qualifies to be on the nontraumagenic spectrum should identify as?
perhaps focus your gaze on radqueers, who are more like the strawman you've made up of all nontraumagenic systems.
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please remember: anti endo and pro endo discord servers have very similar experiences with people coming in there just to be assholes. just in different tones. sometimes they even say the same things, calling everyone harmful ableist bigots and so on.
harrassment is a system spaces problem, not specific to one side.
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Hot take: fire
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why do people keep generalizing people based on syscourse opinions.
no, not all pro endos are "abusers" (ahem yk who you are), no, not all anti endos are rude and disrespectful. plzzzz stop talking about it. like, yall are obsessed with it
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it doesn't hurt anyone to approach any side of the syscourse (yes, even the neutrals and non-aligned) with an open mind. it doesn't hurt anyone to come and listen to someone who has a different view than your own. We know how to be civil and respectful.
what hurts any and every side of syscourse is approaching the other with bad intentions and acting in bad faith. it's not by calling the other a bunch of swears and bullying them that you'll get them to listen to your arguments. if you have any, that is.
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