#north supreme kai

[fireboos99]

I literally do not have anything smart to say here, this drawing literally only happened because my siblings were telling me I should post my brainrot doodles on here, and my anxiety-ridden ass couldn't do it, and decided the only solution was to spend days (read: the entire latter end of April) working on a proper drawing because "if I'm going to post anything on tumblr, it better be a full-ass drawing"

[staerplatinum]

"Straight with that posture! Chin up, and hop!" Guojiu teaching Shin the dance steps for a special ritual!

[rozamasu]

Dragon Ball Z/Super: Comparing and contrasting Goku and Zamasu— two sides of the same coin? (Long post full of yapping!)

The Goku Black arc consistently portrays Black/Zamasu to be ideological parallels to Trunks for obvious reasons (Hope vs Despair, Selfishness vs Selflessness, he's the protagonist of this arc, etc.), but I think it's an interesting exercise to compare Zamasu's journey to Goku's. In my opinion, it really hammers in why Zamasu failed to reach enlightenment and fell from grace besides "mortals = stupid and barbaric" and plain old narcissism.

Everyone knows Goku's story by now, but I want to hone in on the part that I believe Zamasu's own parallels.

The beginning of Z features Goku gradually being introduced to entirely new realms of power and scale. He has to team up with the guy he worked his ass off to defeat 5 years ago just to barely defeat Raditz, a mid class Saiyan, sacrificing his own life in the process.

He is informed constantly by Vegeta that he is nothing but low-class scum, born at the bottom of the interplanetary Saiyan "totem pole", compared to Vegeta's own super-elite-royalty-goodness.

Then, by Namek, he manages to surpass Vegeta, and even trounces the emperor of the universe who subjugated the entire Saiyan race. After Namek, Goku grows so much that the conceptions of "class" that he was blindsided by quickly become faint memories, only brief blips in his life's work to always get stronger.

Not to be the strongest, or even to become "the strongest Saiyan who ever lived", simply to get stronger. Goku's goal is forever ongoing; he will never feel as if his duty is complete. If it ever was, he'd be restless and unsatisfied.

The key thread throughout the Saiyan and Frieza Sagas is that Goku never uses the labels ascribed to him or his opponents as anything more than momentary benchmarks in service of his overarching, everlasting goal to achieve more and more strength. He does not hear Vegeta's boasts about his status and go "okay, guess I'll be good enough once I can beat Vegeta in a 1 on 1, since I'll basically be a super elite!". He hears King Kai's fervent warnings about Frieza's terrible strength and gets curious rather than demotivated.

He doesn't use either of these as an excuse to run away or quit training.

In fact, Goku never uses anything as an excuse. He is not married to any sort of arbitrary benchmark of strength (that honor goes to Chi Chi), even in Super as he gains power that rivals Gods of Destruction.

To treat a level of strength, or a class (God of Destruction, Angel, Super Elite, Emperor of the Universe) as a stopping point for Goku or some sort of ultimate goal would imply that Goku's desire for strength has a defined end. But it doesn't, and so Goku doesn't put much stock into those things. He never loses sight of his goal, and he literally doesn't even stop training when he's dead.

As for Zamasu, the beginning of his journey is why I thought to juxtapose him with Goku in the first place. He shares a surprising similarity with early Z Goku, in that both were able to achieve greater statuses than their birth would afford them.

Zamasu started off as a normal Kai, the guardian of a universal quadrant (the North, same as King Kai). In terms of Dragon Ball's divine hierarchy, this is actually quite the low standing. It is the second lowest known class of Gods, only ranking above planetary deities like Kami and Dende. If a Core Person (Kai race) is born from a rare, special golden fruit, only then will they be qualified enough to train to be a Supreme Kai.

Zamasu is the only known canon example of a normal Kai being selected to become a Supreme Kai, and so his exceptional ascension up the divine hierarchy is a natural parallel to Goku's own defiance of his low-class nature and his comparatively low power level at birth.

Unlike Goku, however, Zamasu is absolutely obsessed with and bound by certain labels, which ultimately leads to his ideological downfall.

Firstly, we can see his fixation on the idea of godhood when he speaks to Gowasu.

When Gowasu simply tells him to temper himself and observe mortals, he immediately begins focusing on and belittling the gods' philosophy, almost outright saying "what the gods think does NOT align with justice". The way he phrases these sentences in both the dub and sub is key: he says "I thought you'd teach me justice, but...", which creates a juxtaposition between "divinity" and "REAL justice".

He even begins to doubt that a god could be considered a god if they did not align with his definition of justice.

Zamasu is young and inexperienced for a Kai (especially considering regular Kais have far shorter biological lifespans than Supreme Kais), so the reactions he displays in this scene suggest that he had a very romanticized, linear view of both godhood and justice. When Gowasu's statement suggests to Zamasu that he can't reconcile the two, it basically calls out all that Zamasu currently stands for, and he doesn't take it well.

Gowasu ends the discussion by challenging Zamasu's narrowminded belief that gods are "absolute" and perfect, but by then the two are already unable to get through to one another.

If you look at the other gods in Dragon Ball, you'll see what Gowasu means here. For example, Beerus is lazy, temperamental, and childish; none of the other gods really like him. Elder Kai is a lecher. Champa is rather undignified and just as temperamental as Beerus.

Where Goku seeks strength, Zamasu seeks virtue. Yet, unlike Goku, Zamasu has an arbitrary benchmark at where his objective stops: the abstract concept of "godhood".

When Zamasu reaches that endpoint and finds that it's not all it's cracked up to be, he constantly contorts his definition of divinity to match it— or rather, to match himself— rather than accepting that being a god is not equivalent to having a "perfect" sense of justice, or being "perfect" in general. He commits barbaric, brutal, bloodthirsty, and wanton acts, all in the name of "divine justice", despite those things being less becoming of gods and more becoming of mortals.

The dilemma extends to the very end of the arc, where in the dub Corrupted Merged Zamasu says to Vegetto: "If one can't control a world, one can't be called a god of it", instantly justifying his hypocrisy, his sadism, his violence, and his arrogance instead of looking inward and asking himself what it meant to be a god.

Like Gowasu said, Zamasu was "obsessed with the contradictions of gods and mortals", and as Trunks said, "it isn't about gods or mortals". Zamasu was so enamored with the idea and label of godhood, yet did not question whether or not his values, the values of his future counterpart, or the values of the other gods aligned with it. And how could he have questioned it if he didn't truly know what godhood meant himself— if he just used the idea as a synonym for what he believed?

Where Goku saw arbitrary labels as inconsequential to his overarching quest, Zamasu saw his life be entirely dictated by them. Zamasu allowed himself to be entrenched in the god-mortal dichotomy, whereas Goku's nature would never allow him to lose his big-picture goal like that.

When Goku's reality is challenged, whether by the introduction of some groundless measure of value (power level, Saiyan class) or by a vastly stronger opponent, he doesn't flinch. He doesn't stop. He doesn't make excuses. His overall goal doesn't change.

When Zamasu's reality was challenged, he broke and became everything he hated. He bent and twisted the rules of what he considered "just", and shattered the natural divine order by doing away with all Gods of Destruction. His goal, by then, was unrecognizable compared to his previous goal to be a benevolent Supreme Kai.

Where Goku's triumphs led him to continue being diligent and humble, Zamasu's own led him to be stagnant and arrogant. Even though Zamasu was proactive and cunning, he was stagnant in the sense that none of what he did made him more moral or virtuous, or gave him a greater understanding of the universe, even though those were the things he originally sought when studying under Gowasu.

All he did was further embed himself (literally, with Future Zamasu) within his own radical beliefs; he never progressed towards his original goal because he replaced it with "I am THE God, no more gods are needed, I will exterminate all mortals personally". His arrogance and inability to see gods as flawed beings made him lose the plot.

Goku continued working hard and getting stronger after vanquishing Frieza, whereas Zamasu's entitlement made him become a complete shell of himself.

Goku saw his growth from low-class warrior to Legendary Super Saiyan to be a testament to everything he stood for; the desire to protect and avenge his friends, his inherited Saiyan pride from Vegeta, and most importantly, his neverending journey to get stronger. Zamasu saw his ascension from North Kai to Supreme Kai as an excuse. A stopping point. An "okay, I've reached the pinnacle of the virtue I seek", refusing to accept that there was more beyond the arbitrary value and moral standing he placed on the role of a god, refusing to think mortals could ever possibly learn, and refusing to think gods could ever need to learn.

Zamasu is a dark reflection of Goku— Son Goku is everything that Zamasu is not. Zamasu is the opposite of many reasons that Goku is such a distinct and unique character, and that makes both of them all the more compelling.

[muses-of-the-memory]

Everyone was gathered at the Conton City Square, just as the Supreme Kai of Time had told everyone to arrive as she and Tokitoki showed up. "He'll be here... any second." She spoke to the crowd.

I then leap down from the Time Miniature of the old Sector V Treehouse and land at the Town Square as Android 21 flew down. "Hey guys. Something going on?" I asked to the group.

"SURPRISE! HAPPY BIRTHDAY!" They all shouted showing the decorations and food they brought for the party. "Aww, you guys." I said seeing everyone was gathered for my birthday.

As everyone was partying, someone started to loom over Gotenks and Chronoa. Tokitoki started to screech to see the humongous being behind. "Mr. Heart! What're YOU doing here?" Gotenks asked. "How'd he get here?" Chronoa asked

P.J.'s Birthday

Majin PJ, the Time Hero of Conton City was waking up in his room in the old KND Sector V Treehouse, and saw his prototype kwami, Inky and Android 21 as he woke up.

"Hey there, buddy!" Inky shouted as I jumped a little. "Hey, relax. It's just us, 21 and Inky." Android 21 spoke. "Mind giving me space to get up? I asked.

"Sorry. Come with us. The Supreme Kai of Time's got something to show you at the Town Square." Android 21 said. "Can I come, at least?" Inky asked. "Well, sure... Just stay out of sight." I said to Inky as he hid in his pants pocket.

Tagged by: @theherothestars, @the-world-hopper, @bluemajingirl

[duhragonball]

Daima 05: Panzy

Have you seen this spiky-haired kid with a red stick? He's not in trouble or anything, I just think he's neat. Take a look.

This episode introduces Panzy, the mysterious girl who botched a heroic uprising in the previous episode. Goku saved her and finished the job by clobbering every Gomah henchman in town, but as they leave, Panzy confronts them and asks who they are.

Panzy has a lot of questions. Who are these guys? Why does one of them have round ears? What Demon World are "Saiyans" from? Where are they going? Why are they going to Kadan Castle? Can she go with them? Glorio wants nothing to do with her, but he's too low key to yell at her or anything, so she keeps following them. Also she gives Goku a rice ball, so now they're stuck with her.

Panzy finds the name "Goku" strange, so he tells her his other name is "Kakarot". Shades of the final scene of the DBS Broly movie, where Goku introduces himself by both names. I know some fans find this out of character, since Goku vehemently rejected his Saiyan heritage in the early episodes of DBZ. But he started to embrace that heritage and reclaim it in the middle of DBZ. Goku insisted he was an Earthling when he fought Raditz, but he called Vegeta a "fellow Saiyan" when he asked Krillin to let him escape. He introduced himself to the Ginyu Force as a "Saiyan from Earth", and when Frieza asked him who he was, he shouted "I am the Super Saiyan, Son Goku!"

The last time he rejected the name "Kakarot" was in the original Broly movie from 1993, where he told Broly that he was not Kakarot, but Son Goku. But he let Vegeta call him "Kakarot" the whole time. That moment probably said more about his anger at Broly than any resentment for the name.

And now we have scenes like this one, where he refers to "Kakarot" as an alternative name for himself. It's not out of character; it's just the character changing over the course of a long period of time. I know it's also a popular joke in the fandom that Vegeta is "deadnaming" Goku whenever he calls him "Kakarot", and I get it, really. I'm sure a lot of people who have changed their name can relate to Goku having two names and preferring one over the other.

But it is also valid for a person to have more than one name, and to go by all of them at once. Lots of people in the Bible have two names, for example. Abram/Abraham; Jacob/Israel; Esau/Edom, Simon/Peter, Saul/Paul. Or look at Gandalf, from Lord of the Rings.

"Many are my names in many countries. Mithrandir among the Elves, Tharkûn to the Dwarves, Olórin I was in my youth in the West that is forgotten, in the South Incánus, in the North Gandalf; to the East I go not."

I'm pretty sure in the East, Sauron makes all the orcs call Gandalf "Jerkstore", but he's not gonna dignify that one. My point is that if Gandalf can have four or fives names at once, there's nothing wrong with Goku having two. Also he can touch his nose with his tongue. Because he's legendary.

Panzy wanted to know what magic he could do, because all Majins can do at least one magic thing, and apparently flying and clobbering lots of henchmen and touching your nose with your tongue doesn't count. Goku asks what she can do and she uses the Force to lift a rock. She can't do it for very long and it's a small rock, but it's pretty cool. Goku is impressed, although Frieza threw a whole mountain at him like that once, so he's seen it before.

But Panzy's true specialty is tinkering with machines, which will make her essential to this group by the end of the episode. See, I remember pointing this out about Pan in GT last year. The big problem with GT Pan wasn't her bossy attitude, but that she didn't have any useful attributes to balance out her personality. Contrast with Panzy here, who has this annoying kid sister vibe to her, and Glorio and the Supreme Kai would probably rather be rid of her, but she can fix stuff, and they can't. Eventually we'll have Bulma in the mix, and she can fix stuff, too, but it's taken her days to repair the Supreme Kai's ship. Panzy's from the Demon World, so she probably knows its technology better.

Speaking of the Supreme Kai, she recognizes him as a Glind, just as Glorio did a while back. She heard that most of the Glinds left to the outside world long ago, so it sure sounds like the Kaioshin are all Glinds who once lived in the Demon Realm, but that still doesn't tell us if the Supreme Kai himself was born in this place.

Panzy is suspicious, because Second Worlders like the Glinds wouldn't come to the Third World for anything other than business, and these guys won't discuss that with her. Glorio refuses to tell her his name, but he says it when Goku mispronounces it. He's been doing that lately, and it took me a while to notice that it's a running gag. It's kind of funny how he won't say his name to strangers unless he needs to correct Goku.

But Panzy is more useful than Glorio wants to admit. When she points out a faster route to the castle, Goku and the Supreme Kai follow, and Glorio has to go along.

On the way, they discuss the way Gomah's men were draining life force to punish anyone who couldn't pay their taxes. From this, we learn that demons live about a thousand years, and Panzy herself is eighty-two. So I guess stealing nine years from that villager isn't quite as harsh as it seemed. It still sucks, because they'll probably keep coming back for tribute, and I assume Gomah finds the life juice more valuable than poor subjects.

Meanwhile, King Gomah has some lady reading fairy tales to Baby Dende. He scolds her for her lackluster reading performance, and at first I thought maybe he was getting sweet on the li'l guy. Like, he originally kidnapped him as insurance. A hostage in case Dragon Team tried to come after him, or at least a way to prevent them from using the Earth's Dragon Balls again. But now he's got him in a crib with a caretaker and so forth. And Dende's so cute he could warm any heart…

… Except for King Gomah, though. He's not taking care of Dende out of tenderness. He plans to raise Dende into a Namek who will make a new set of Dragon Balls for him. You suck, King Gomah. I hope you trip on your stupid cape.

Back in the Third Demon World, the gang finally reach Kadan Castle. Oh, good, I was beginning to wonder how long this would take. Glorio tries to shoo Panzy away, and when she insists on joining them, he tells her she'll just get turned away by the guards. But what he doesn't know is that Panzy is the Princess of the castle.

So, King Kadan. He's a lot like the Ox King or King Yemma, by which I mean a big huge guy who looks mean but isn't all that bad. Panzys says he only steals from the rich and only kills bad guys. Kadan himself says that he can't stand Gomah's reign, and he wants him out of the way so that he can rule the entire Demon Realm himself and restore the peace. So that's why he sent Glorio to request the help of Goku, right? Wrong. Glorio came to Kadan with this plan, offering to bring him the powerful fighters who defeated Majin Buu. Kadan approved, but he knows nothing of them personally, and he had no idea that Gomah had turned them all into children. Clearly, Glorio's up to something.

Then again, his scheme might not be all that complex. We saw him in Gomah's palace watching the same videos of the Buu Saga that Gomah and Degesu were watching. He even overheard Arinsu's suggestion that the Z-Fighters might come to Demon Realm someday and threaten Gomah's reign, and Gomah's plot to turn the Z-Fighters and friends into children. So it's not hard to guess that he went to Kadan to get access to a plane so that he could bring Goku to the Demon Realm.

The only real question is why he didn't bother to let Goku, the Supreme Kai, or Kadan in on his plan. They're all united against Gomah, apparently, so why all the intrigue? Unless Glorio doesn't trust Kadan or Dragon Team. Maybe he's got a different agenda after all.

Anyway, Kadan is so on board with the "Goku Clobbers Gomah" plan that he offers to let Goku marry Panzy if he succeeds. Panzy objects to this idea, and Goku has to explain that he's already married with children. The Supreme Kai tells them that they need to rescue Dende or collect the Demon Realm Dragon Balls to return to normal, and Kadan is astonished that Goku would even consider fighting the Tamagami who guard the Dragon Balls. But if he be beat Buu, it might work. Glorio requests a new plane, but first Kadan asks Goku for a demonstration of his power. Goku's always down to fight.

So yeah, this is basically another Goku brawl, only this time he's fighting Kadan's best warriors. Kadan forbids them from killing Goku, and he's about to tell them to fight without weapons, but Goku's like "Nah, this will be good training," so everyone tries to get him with weapons.

What can I say, except that this is the third "Goku vs. a bunch of guys" fights in three episodes, and it still rules. I hope he does this in every episode. I mean, he doesn't have to, and it's probably better that they don't do this too much more often, since the stakes can only escalate so far. This time, the soldiers try to dogpile Goku, so he briefly turns Super Saiyan to knock them away. So it's the debut of Super Saiyan Mini Goku, even if it didn't last very long. Sooner or later, he'll have a fight where he uses Super Saiyan for a sustained period of time, and then a fight where he and Vegeta both use Super Saiyan, and so on. Of course, we have no idea how long this show is supposed to run for. The hardest number I've been able to find is something like "at least 20 episodes", so maybe 26 or 39, if we're following the "cour" system used for a lot of Japanese television shows.

Anyway, Goku makes short work of Kadan's guys, so we cut to them loading up their new plane. Kadan has to have the plane's computer "rewritten" because it's not the same one Glorio had registered when he traveled to Earth in Episode 2. This way, he can use the same PIN number he used in Episode 3. This is probably a violation of the rules, Warp-Sama enforces, but I still don't know whose rules those are, so I don't know how serious an offense this would be. Mostly, I just like that Kadan's people have ways to get around the barrier. Whoever implemented the PIN number system isn't absolute.

Speaking of that, the Supreme Kai mentions that their friends are going to try to join them here, but they have no PIN number to get access. King Kadan can't do anything about that, but then he asks a guy named Hybis to go fetch them. I'm not clear why Hybis can do this. Maybe he's just using the same registration process Glorio followed before? Anyway, Hybis needs a mid-sized plane for the job, so Kadan orders three of his guys to go steal one from the Nemophy Gang. It wouldn't shock me if the Nemophy Gang were the guys who stole Glorio's plane in the first place.

So with that all settled, Panzy invites herself along for the ride. Kadan objects, but she's good with machines, and she can fix the plane if it breaks. Glorio doesn't care for Panzy, but he's not good with machines, so that settles it. And the Supreme Kai is suspicious of Glorio, but he knows the way, so we're kind of stuck with him too. I guess Hybis and Bulma will have to catch up.

Glorio tells Goku it'll take four days to reach the Tamagami protecting the Three-Star Dragon Ball, and Goku whines about being cooped up in the plane for that long. But it doesn't matter because the plane crashes almost immediately and they all die. Whoops.

Well, that's a weird way to end the show, but it was fun while it lasted… oh, wait, they're okay.

So now that we're at the end of the episode, let me try to circle back and see what we get from all of this.

I guess the first thing we should do is talk about the GT connections. I thought this show was deviating from GT pretty decisively after Glorio's plane got stolen, but Episode 5 gives me pause. I mean, in Episode 5 of GT, Goku goes to the Imeckian ruler's palace and beats up his strongest henchman, Ledgic. They get their ship back and head off with their new pal Giru to resume hunting Dragon Balls. In Episode 5 of Daima, Goku goes to the Third Demon World's royal palace and beats up King Kadan's strongest warriors. They get a new plane and head off with their new pal Panzy to begin hunting Dragon Balls. And both shows feature the de-aged Goku using Super Saiyan for the first time. Eerie, right?

I'm not sure what to take from this. I was pretty confident that the GT parallels would end altogether, or at least become a lot more tenuous. This is either a huge coincidence, or someone genuinely pitched this as a writing challenge. "Let's take a few plot points from each GT Episode and use them to outline a new series."

The simplest explanation is probably that all of these Dragon Ball series are going to have some similarities, because they all feature the same characters in the same world with similar situations. On top of that, they're always doing callbacks to past scenes. The sabretooth tiger that chases Gohan in DBZ Episode 1 shows up again in other episodes, for example. Gohan himself is a walking reference to Kid Goku. Dr. Mu looks just like Dr. Gero. Omega Shenron dies to a Spirit Bomb just like Kid Buu. Lord Slug is just King Piccolo with a spaceship. And so on.

But it also goes to show that you can never be too sure where a story is heading. I mean, I kind of expected Panzy to turn out to be the Princess of the Third Demon World, but that sort of leads into my next point…

I like how this show is connecting all of the characters together. Panzy and Hybis aren't just new additions to the supporting cast who merely happened along. They're connected to King Kadan, who is conspiring with Glorio to overthrow King Gomah. The Supreme Kai is in this story because his brother and sister work for Gomah. It's not clear what he intends to do about that, but he specifically joined this mission because of the family connection.

Bulma, Vegeta, and Piccolo feel somewhat less relevant to what's going on now. We already have a bossy princess who can fix the ship, and a Super Saiyan, so Bulma and Vegeta don't seem all that necessary at the moment. And the Namekian connection to the Demon Realm seems less important now. But that's fine, because Bulma, Vegeta, and Piccolo haven't shown up yet to join the others.

I really like this setup with the main cast taking separate cars to the plot. It gives us time to introduce and develop Glorio and Panzy, and probably Hybis too once they get around to him. If the others were here while all this was going on, they'd be standing around with nothing to do. Or worse, they could get stuff to do and it would get in the way of the main story and overcomplicate things.

I call this principle "Klingons do not have fun." It's not a very good name, but it's a reference to Worf on Star Trek. In actual Worf-themed episodes, which are among the best of the entire franchise, we'll see Worf explored as this complex, layered character, with all sort of passions, insecurities, doubts and ambitions. But not every episode can be about Worf, so in a lot of episodes he's just in the background, and the most he might get is a brief scene where he compares Geordi's problem to some Klingon tradition. Or he'll just recommend security measures because it's his job. Or someone will make small talk with him and ask him what he does for fun, and he'll bluntly reply that "Klingons do not have fun."

And we know Klingons do have fun, because there's episodes where they party and go hunting and make out and stuff, but Worf's kind of a gloomy Gus most of the time, and he tends to assign his personal issues as a cultural feature. The Worf-focused episodes get into all of that, but the ones that focus on the other characters will just reduce him to a soundbyte or two. It'd probably be simpler to write him out of such episodes altogether, but he's part of the crew, so you can't just pretend he isn't there when it's not convenient.

Dragon Ball does this sort of thing as well, but Akira Toriyama also took advantage of opportunities to isolate major characters. The early Namek episodes focused on Bulma, Krillin, and Gohan, because everyone else was dead or back on Earth. Goku was mostly on his own in the Red Ribbon arc because he was on a training excursion by himself. And here, there's two ships, and Bulma's still working on the second one. They'll only arrive when the story is good and ready.

And so it might be worth having an extra tech girl in the story. There's a scene of Bulma and Panzy working on something together in the closing credits, so they'll probably bond or butt heads when they finally do meet later on, but we don't have to rush into that.

Speaking of Panzy, her reveal in this episode kind of reminds me of George Lucas' commentary track for Empire Strikes Back, where he compared Yoda to some archetypal "frog on the road". I'm not sure if that's the trope's "official" name, but you probably get the idea. Glorio is quick to dismiss Panzy as unimportant at best, or a nuisance at worst. He doesn't get too mean about it, mostly because he doesn't lose his cool very easily, but he still thinks she's a pointless distraction, and then she turns out to be Kadan's daughter, and far more important than he realized. It's a nice reversal for Glorio, since his mysterious stranger persona makes it hard to really get into his head. At least this way we can finally see him make a mistake and react to it.

And he's not entirely wrong about Panzy. She puts too much luggage on their new plane, and that's apparently what crashes it. But she'll probably be the one who fixes it too, so there's a sort of push-pull kind of thing with her. It keeps Glorio from getting too comfortable with his plan, whatever it might be. He never counted on Panzy being part of it, no matter how helpful she might be.

Also, I like Goku repeating their mission statement across multiple episodes. We have to rescue Dende. He also wants to fight the Tamamgamis, but Dende comes first. In GT and Super, there were a lot of times where Goku seemed kind of unfocused, usually to set up a gag where he didn't get what was going on. Someone would ask for his input and he'd say he was hungry or whatever. And Goku does get hungry in this show. He eats something in every episode, and I'm pretty sure less than 24 hours have passed since Episode 1. But he also stresses the importance of saving Dende, and he gets into fights, so you get a well-rounded Goku experience every time. The fights aren't just Goku having fun either. He's getting acclimated to the environment, preparing himself for the major battles that lie ahead. Panzy keeps asking him how he got so strong, and he's like "Kid, did you see me beat up all those guys? That's how I got so strong."

[raditzgarden]

notes abt kais & supreme kais 2 self

readmore cuz m' tagging for organization (srry tags)

KAIOSHINS + KAIS

Every universe has Kais of 4 directions (North, East, South, West) - Kais are born from normal apples & not a golden one. These apples can be susceptible to certain dangers & possible disruption likely causing more unstable Kai (ref. Zamasu) -They're looked over & taught by the Grand Kai, whom one can be appointed as the successor of. - Kais can become apprentices to Supreme Kai to be their successor; there is now a background check process to see ones mental health. - North, east, south, west are simply the directions of the universe these kai will observe. Observing & Supervising the living worlds of their quadrant. - The Kais are alone at their posts. Some more isolated than others. (Doubt loneliness is suited for everyone) They might have visits with each other & head back to the Sacred World when able.

Every universe has a Supreme Kai, God of Destruction, & Angel attendant to said god. -Supreme Kai are born from golden apples & fruit, do not relax, these apples too can be susceptible to the same issues as Kai's. Their added bonus is their golden peels + interiors, protecting them and keeping many pure even with bruised apples. -Similar to their Kai counterparts they can oversee any living world where they differ is their observation & supervision of the "Other World" -They work alongside their God of Destruction, likely informing them of what planets are due for destruction; possibly advising them as well. --POWERS-- -Possess the power of creation to a galactic level, manifesting objects from nothing & the ability to heal living beings -Some have advance knowledge in various areas, fighting, martial arts, technology, etc. -Can teleport via the phrase "Kai Kai" -Can read minds via telepathy & speak to said minds -Telekinesis recorded -Time travel (These guys just keep adding onto their prowess wow) -Fusion (Which I'm still trying to understand fully, various ways to do it) -Godly Ki (The kind people here tell me its just a more divine energy that can be masked) - & Likely more things outside my knowledge as of right now.

There use to be a process in which like their Kai counterparts, 4 directions of Supreme Kai would be together & mentored under one Supreme Kai. After the "Majin Tragedy" a new order was put in place: - One active supreme kai, they may have an attendant. (Though in my opinion it's technically two with the point below) - Elderly Supreme Kai may remain in their post even after their student is given their position, they become a mentor & elder to be respected. Both the active Supreme Kai & attendant will aid this kai and help care for them in their older age.

SACRED WORLD & ACADEMY RESIDING IN "NULL REALM" OR MULTIVERSE - Kais & Kaioshins reside on a planet known as the "Sacred World", on this planet they're not referred to with such titles as they're considered "core people" as they're born from fruit cores. (It's like a cute pun) - The people born to be Kais & Kaioshins are taken to "Kai Temple" (Titled as such due to the buildings structure, I've heard others just call it the temple) -It is at the "Kai Temple" they are overseen and mentored by the Kais suited for their divinity. IE. Kais = Grand Kai Supreme Kai = Grand Supreme Kai (Creative I know.) - Live what's been described as leisurely lives as "Sacred World" is very peaceful & pristine usually. -What well call the "Academy" is described as a grandiose castle structure. They study various things, likely pertaining to interests and their professions as Kais. (At least I hypothesize, to put things in an allegory they're the rich kids who attend private schools with ensured jobs in big corp.)

A WARNING TO KEEP IN MIND Kais & their Supreme counterparts tend to only intervene when the balance of the universe & planets are at risk. It's a common belief if Supreme Kai is spotted in a mortal space that a bad omen is ahead. Keep eyes out for possible Destruction God's & Angel sightings if you see a Supreme Kai.

Kais themself cannot physically come, but many report hearing their voices, guidance, & advice during these times which at times helped, at times did nothing, & at most misfortunate made it worse. !They say you should report to someone if you hear the voice of a kai! FINAL THOUGHTS, IDEAS, & NOTES.

The divine beings of this reality are very much a curious case & unlike other I've come across albeit our old dead reality wasn't under full divine control like this one. They keep a very rigorous strict system in place valuing tradition... But it does seem with newer generations more progressive & open minded policies have been adapted which is always a win. Luckily they can still live casually outside of the responsibility of oversite and creation as they only intervene when absolutely needed, or working alongside their God of Destruction. I'm glad to learn more about this world and the beings who reside on it especially as we were graciously given a place of refuge and sanctuary, I just have to stop being so timid and venture out the temple and maybe check out the school. (But I'm really really shy and awkward at meeting people let alone divine religious figures.) SIGNOUT Dove, Age 782 of Galactic Date, 4/1/?? on Earth.

[supernovelhunter]

<Dragon Ball Majin Buu> 1-Chapter 1 Preface

"MajinBuu is full of energy!"

"full of energy!"

"MajinBuu is finally coming back to life!"

A short, ugly figure, standing in front of a slow-beating egg like a walnut, was dancing and shouting with an evil smile.

He is human, but he is more like a bug, but he has more hands and feet than a bug.

In this scene, Babidi, the evil mentor, is very happy, while Supreme Kai Xin is very scared.

The seal is about to be lifted, is the scary MajinBuu finally going to show up? It's over! It's all over!

He was immediately annoyed, put his head in his hands and blamed himself:

"how… How did this happen! The worst has happened! This is not at all what I imagined! "

SonGoHan of Supreme Kai Xinbian was also shocked.

At this time, SonGoKu and Vegeta, with an aperture above their heads, were in love and killing each other outside the ship.

When the two men fight, the escaping energy speeds up the release of the MajinBuu seal.

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Like a huge egg with a beating heart, a soul suddenly appears.

"who is quarrelling and laughing? Do you still laugh so badly? "

"MajinBuu?"

"Resurrection?"

"who is watching the Dragon Ball next to me?"

"I'm still watching next to me. I don't know if I was playing games all night. Are you sleeping now?"

"when I get up, I must shoot him!"

The seagull thought vaguely.

"Ah, what is this? Oh no, it's eating my soul! "

The seagull roars in pain.

An unconscious great evil will wraps the sudden appearance of the soul, that huge evil but mixed with good will instinctively engulf the seagull soul.

[limiter] loaded successfully!

A loud sound came from the soul of the walking gull, but it could only be heard by the walking gull. The next moment a golden light appeared from the depths of the soul of the walking gull, saying that he wrapped it and formed a golden ball.

But the evil and chaotic will was unconscious, and despite the change, Kim Kwang-Il swallowed up each other in a flash with the large and evil will.

If the evil and chaotic consciousness is blue in the intestines of regret.

The next moment, the golden light soared, unreasonable to absorb the evil chaotic will, evil and chaotic will, although unconscious, but still aware of the danger and terror of the golden light, was absorbed a lot of strength

The evil and chaotic consciousness immediately gave up some of its power and went straight away from the gulls wrapped in golden light.

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You punch, I punch.

The two men played dozens of tricks, and their clothes had long been torn apart in the battle.

The M word on Vegeta's forehead made him look evil, and he defended SonGoKu's attack:

"I haven't had such a good time for a long time! Carrot! "

"No matter how good it is, you can't beat me, Vegeta!"

SonGoKu, with an aperture above his head, punched Vegeta with a heavy blow.

Tilt your head to avoid SonGoKu's punch.

Vegeta rallied an energy bullet in his backhand and hit SonGoKu around the waist, blowing him up.

Boom, boom, boom!

Several more flares were added and hit him.

"not bad! Vegeta, you make me warm up! "

The smoke dispersed and the energy light bomb emptied.

SonGoKu appeared to one side, arms folded over his chest, a smile on his cold face.

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In mid-air.

"Hey, Tenanks, I feel a strong breath of anger!"

"whose is it? is it Dad's?"

"I don't know. I also showed up at the martial arts convention just now."

"Why can I feel such a strong breath everywhere?" Trunks sighed.

"is it difficult to fight all over the world?" SonGoTen replied.

"I have no idea what happened!

Why don't we go back? " Trunks suggested.

"No! I want to see MajinBuu! " SonGoTen vetoed it directly.

"all right! Then let's hurry up! "

Emitting golden arrogance, the two men flew over the earth and mountains and headed for the far north.

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Beating slowly, the platform is placed under the walnut-like egg, continuously emitting a large stream of gas, forming a large cloud of smoke above the egg.

Supreme Kai, who was in a state of mind collapse, was dumbfounded by this scene and burst into a cold sweat.

The pointer placed on the stage turns to the middle of the M word.

"MajinBuu is going to be all!"

Babidi was more happy and shocked, and then burst into strange smiles, followed by Dapra, the king of the demon world.

"Hey, hey, hey, Dapra, finally coming out, MajinBuu is coming out!"

"Yes, yes!" Dapra answered dryly.

"I'm finally going to meet MajinBuu, hey, come out, come out!"

"what a great expectation! Lord Babidi! " Congratulations, Dapra.

With the passage of time, the walnut-like egg beats faster and faster, the breath becomes stronger and stronger, SonGoHan sees the situation, clenches his fists and frowns.

It seems that the damage energy caused by the fight between my father and Uncle Vegeta should be the damage energy after surpassing the Super Saiyan, so that MajinBuu wakes up quickly!

"finish it all!"

Supreme Kai Xin, who was beside SonGoHan, was frightened by this and couldn't help saying:

"there's nothing we can do. Let's run! Mr. Wuhan! "

"run away!"

"run away?" SonGoHan was stunned and looked at Supreme Kai Xin, who was stunned and could not help taking a step back.

What about your confidence just now?

Are you really Supreme Kai?

And if I run away, what about my petrified Uncle Piccolo?

Oh, and Uncle Kuririn.

He couldn't help shouting:

"even if you say so, where can you escape? If you just let it go, MajinBuu will definitely wake up! "

"but you can't beat MajinBuu with your current strength!

No one can beat him, no matter you or others, the person who can beat him does not exist at all! Let's run! " Supreme Kai Xin was very depressed.

"but…"

"there are no buts. Run away! Don't waste your life! "

Supreme Kai Xin said, suddenly his eyes lit up.

"We can escape to the Supreme Kai world!" As he said that, he immediately froze, and he thought of the dead South Supreme Kai, the Big Supreme Kai, who were all killed in the Supreme Kai world.

When MajinBuu wakes up, even the Supreme Kai world is not safe.

He was in a moment of despair.

Hey, tired! Destroy it!

SonGoHan looks like a walnut-like egg, such as the heart beats, the pink object in the egg becomes more and more obvious, clenching his teeth:

"he's all done anyway! At least let me try! "

"what do you want?"

Ha!

SonGoHan in Super Saiyan state raised his arms, clenched his fists and roared angrily on his back.

The golden air and waves all over the body rise to the sky! As the energy in the body rises, the air waves spread, the energy rises to the extreme, and the air waves dissipate, leaving only flamboyant flames.

SonGoHan murmured.

"Let me fight at least once!"

The hands show a claw-shaped virtual grip at the waist, and a golden wave of light is generated from the palms of the hands, shining brightly.

"what does that guy want?" Babidi asks Dapra.

"I don't know."

SonGoHan pushed his hands forward, and the next moment, a golden shock wave of energy burst from the palms of his hands and shot at the Dome behind Babidi.

A terrible shock wave is coming!

Dapra's pupil shrinks.

Pick up the dull Babidi for a moment and avoid the attack of SonGoHan.

The golden shock wave collides with an egg like a walnut for a few seconds.

"Boom!"

The sound of the explosion dispersed the smoke.

The egg, like a walnut, shakes slightly and spews out gas.

Unharmed?!

"Damn it! Ah, ah, ah. "

SonGoHan does not believe in evil, drink, and make up another energy shock wave, he continues to output energy, the Dome is still intact under his attack.

"Mr. Wuhan!" Supreme Kai Xin couldn't help shouting.

"that guy, Lord Babidi, I'll take care of him!" Dapra was furious.

As soon as he was about to do it, Babidi grabbed the corner of his coat.

"it doesn't matter, that kind of attack has no effect on MajinBuu at all!"

"fool, even if you do so, it will be useless! In vain! " Babidi watched SonGoHan keep attacking the Dome with a mockery on his face.

Boom!

The earth is broken and dusty.

The big egg like a walnut was blown up.

SonGoHan looked at the Dome flying in the air and did not hesitate to add another energy shock wave.

Touch it!

The Dome hit the ground hard and rolled a few times.

All of a sudden, click!

The egg cracked like a walnut, snorted and leaked like a balloon, and a puff of pink gas came out of the egg.

"Oh! Here we go, here we go, here comes MajinBuu!

Babidi was overjoyed.

The pink smoke dissipated, leaving only a split shell with nothing inside. Babidi and Dapra were dumbfounded.

"empty��� It's empty! "

Where's my big MajinBuu?!

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[limiter]

Soul breakthrough is successful!

Phase one, 20%.

[yeetspace]

So here's some more of that Dragon Ball "Universe 14" stuff:

So basically, the kaio/kaioshin situation is switched up only slightly, in the fact that the Kaio and Kaioshin ranks have both been merged making all four of them as much more hands on attendants to their respective quadrant being both physical and spiritual representatives, leaving only the Grand and Grand-Supreme Kai(s)

Here is

Tsuntaru, the South Kai (left) (he/him)

-name derives from "Tarhunz" the Luwain rain god

-a seeming Glind

Suaideguite, the North Kai (right) (they/them)

-name derives from "Agdists" an Anatolian (???) god

-a... Whatever King Kai (universe 7's North Kaio) is

Suuriasute, the East Kai (top) (he/him)

-name derives from Aristaeus, a greek food cultivating god (bee keeping, wine making, cheese making, olive growing etc.)

-an ogre like Yemma but little

Terudeme, the West Kai (bottom) (she/her)

-name derives from Demeter, greek nature godess

-concerning for what that implies about Tsuntaru, very much more obviously a Glind

[sweetescapeartist]

Is that... IS THAT A FREEZA RACE MEMBER IN THE BUU SAGA!? 🤯

Turns out that Freeza knowing about Majin Buu in Resurrection F wasn't as random as we thought. There's actually a connection between Freeza's people and Majin Buu in the original manga.

Dragon Ball chapter 445 shows what appears to be a deceased Freeza race member when the Supreme Kai is talking about the planets that were once devastated by Majin Buu thousands of years ago.

Then, in Resurrection F (the movie and the saga) Freeza has knowledge of Majin Buu.

Perhaps, the stories of Majin Buu's terror were passed down from generation to generation and this is how King Cold & then Freeza knew of Majin Buu. 🤔

So, it appears that Toriyama used this manga only scene of a Freeza Race member who was slain by Majin Buu as retroactive connective tissue in order to explain why Freeza knew of Majin Buu in the Resurrection F story.

Just something I noticed. I haven't heard anyone point this out yet, so I thought I should share this with y'all.

EXTRA THOUGHTS:

For some reason, in DBZ EP 219, the anime inserts a scene with planets blowing up instead of a scene of a deceased Freeza Race member.

This is the overlooked third Freeza race member shown in the main series. Freeza, King Cold, and then this unnamed ancient member of the Freeza race.

I dont take issue with Freeza and King Cold having knowledge of Majin Buu & Lord Beerus. The Galactic Patrol had knowledge of both, so it makes sense for the Cold/Freeza Empire to know as well. Aliens who had contact with Buu or Beerus would know of them too and spread legends about them. Furthermore, only certain groups of those aliens would know how truthful those legends in fact were.

I theorize that Freeza's race likely hail from a part of the universe far far away from Earth. Since the Tortoise is the Celestial Emblem of the North cosmic direction, and the North Galaxy of Dragon Ball is home of the Turtle School... I THEORIZE that Emperor Freeza's people might have hailed from South Galaxy. This theory of mine is due to the Celestial Emblem's Red Bird of the South cosmic direction is associated with Imperial power, knowledge, & is often depicted to be at odds with the Dragon (ect, ect). But, this is simply speculation on my part. Maybe we will find out one day.

[izunias-meme-hole]

Top 10 Dragon Ball Villains

Number 1. Cell - Cell is a Perfect villain. He’s got the traits of 3 main villains (Piccolo, Vegeta, & Frieza), along with some Goku elements in the mix, and it makes sense when you remember that he’s an android with the cells of the universes strongest fighters. Also he’s got the ability to absorb people, can perfectly copy techniques that would take years to learn, has quite the suave and charming personality in his perfect form, is extremely funny and snarky sometimes, is terrifying a lot of the time, and overall Cell was designed to be the endgame villain of Z, before Toriyama was asked to write the Buu Saga. Also he’s the SECOND villain from Z to be brought into Super, excluding Buu, only that time he’s now this Shin Godzilla inspired monstrosity with the appearance of his second form. Even in THAT state he was frightening! He’s on the same level as Frieza, but is held back by the fact that he was basically an endgame type of villain put in a penultimate setting. Still, he was and is the PERFECT, Non-Frieza, Dragon Ball villain from the get so in terms of concept and execution.

Number 2. Frieza - What else is there to say about this douchebag that hasn’t been said already? Frieza is one of the most terrifying, entitled, ruthless, fake, genocidal, petty, vile, legitimately racist, and unapologetically evil villains to ever roam fiction, and yet he is still entertaining as all hell. Every word he utters is either filled with malice or sleezy, and when karma hits him in the face it’s all well deserved. God this bastard is a great hateable villain.

Number 3. Zamasu/Goku Black - Cheers to the first villain that ACTUALLY sees himself as the hero in this series. Zamasu is a pompous asshole of a Supreme Kai with a god complex that stole Goku’s body in the future, and is hellbent on eradicating all mortals with the help of an immortal alternate timeline version of himself. At first he was Universe 10′s North Kai, meaning that he was watching mortals from afar, before becoming the apprentice of the Supreme Kai, Gowasu. However he wholeheartedly believes that mortals will always be violent savages who only exist to destroy, and the only reason why he became Gowasu’s apprentice was to change that. However after finding out about the existence of Goku, it didn’t take long for the growing darkness in his heart to drive him to come up with the idea to steal Goku’s body and create the “Zero Mortal Plan.” Zamasu himself acts very formal and humble, but he’s self-righteous and is preachy as all hell, both in the main timeline and the alternate future. Then there’s Goku Black, a self righteous prick of a god, and utter lunatic who enjoys the thrill of the fight, and the bloodshed that comes with it, played by none other than Goku’s english and japanese voice actors. And finally there’s Merged Zamasu, the fusion between Goku Black and the alternate Zamasu, and Zamasu’s truest self. A genocidal, self righteous, mad deity willing to do anything to ensure that his twisted sense of justice prevails. So in spite having a diabolos ex-machina ending to his arc, Zamasu is on the same level as Frieza and Cell.

Number 4. Demigra (Xenoverse & Heroes) - I wasn’t big on him at first, but I realized that this guy was a good antagonist for Xenoverse & Heroes. Sure he only appears midway through the story, but he makes up for that by being quite the threat. Demigra was the former Supreme Kai of Time, before getting booted out of his position for some shady shit, and landing in the place that would soon become the Demon Realm. In short, he’s basically some kind of REAL Demon God, a true Satan figure, unlike Dabura and King Piccolo. So he continues to go on raiding the Time Nest, before being sealed away, but the more distortions in history happened, the closer he became to being free. Heck even while imprisoned, he could summon mirages of himself to alter history by corrupting allies like Piccolo, powering up foes like Buu, or straight up trying to piss off and control The God of Destruction! Oh and did I forget to mention that he revels in every bit of torment he causes, so he truly lives up to being a devil in that part. If you think he sounds like some Dragon Quest, Chrono Cross, Final Fantasy, or Fire Emblem villain, I wouldn’t blame you, but I think that’s what makes him stand out compared to other villains in the series. In short, Demigra is offputting at first, but that nature makes him stand out in a pretty good way. It’s such a shame he’s not in the mainline series.

Number 5. Vegeta (Saiyan Saga) - Vegeta was at his best in Z, ESPECIALLY when he was the main villain of the Saiyan Saga. That arrogance, that persistence, that pride in being a living weapon, and the fear factor he brought to the table is truly unforgettable. God I miss having legit Saiyans as cruel as hell villains.

Number 6. Broly (DBS) - The Non-Canon Z Broly was a pyschotic jock, and an okay villain who was motivated by an infant crying and being stabbed by King Vegeta. The canonical version of the character however is a lot less of a kill happy sadist and more of a gentle soul with the body and power of 50 nukes that he has no control over. He’s not truly a bad guy, but he was still a main antagonist, mostly because his horrid ass father, Paragus ordered him to fight Goku and Vegeta, and Frieza cause him to snap twice in the same day. Plus when he snaps and rages, he SNAPS AND RAGES LIKE A WILD ANIMAL. Sure he was only a villain for like one movie, but his time as an out of control weapon is still great. Congrats Toriyama on making a weak ass non-canon villain into one of Super’s best antagonists.

Number 7. Piccolo (OG Dragon Ball) - Before Piccolo was the team dad and the braincell of the Z Fighters, he was the Demon King Piccolo, the evil half of the namekian, Kami, and Goku’s greatest foe. He was terrifying at times, but he also had this level of theatircality to him. Also, in terms of “Big Bad Satan” Archetypes, as King Piccolo, he was pretty good. After he’s offed by a kid Goku. However King Piccolo spat out an egg at the a few seconds before he died, and a few years later we get to King Piccolo’s reborn self, simply named Piccolo Jr, a younger and stronger copy of himself with his soul and memories intact, who’s out get revenge on Goku. And after being defeated for the second time, they became rivals, a few years later in Z they team up against Raditz, Piccolo takes in Gohan, and the rest of his well written redemption arc is histoy.

Number 8. Beerus - He’s a cat destroyer god with the personality of a cat, how was he NOT a good villain? He only eats, sleeps, blows up planets, and acts like an ass. Like this guy tried to blow up earth after his pudding got eaten by Majin Buu! Sure he’s not an active villain, and he’s currently on Goku and the Z-Fighers side, but let’s be glad it’s staying that way.

Number 9. Cooler - He’s basically Frieza’s pompus, envious, and slightly insecure older brother. Literally anything one could say about Frieza can qualify to Cooler, however there’s noticeable differences, outside of the more masculine appearance. He’s less got less of a faux politeness, actually inspires loyalty in his soldiers, and is a lot more pragmatic in general. However, just like his brother, he falls into similar traps.

Number 10. Android 21/Vomi - Ah yes, this bitch. Android 21 was the main villain of Fighterz, and a pretty damn good one. She’s kinda like a mix between Majin Buu and Launch from the OG series, with some scientist elements sprinkled inbetween. By that I mean she’s got two different personalities, a calm and collected scientist with some semblance of a heart, and a literal pyschotic power hungry monster that can absorb people by turning them into sweets. Out of all the modern DB villains, she’s one of the better ones. Oh, she also is designed after Dr Gero’s wife, Yomi.

[kaioshin-kai]

sobbing at Daisy

please write more about Zamasu and his little princess ;o;

I will! I actually owe fan fiction requests from like 3 months ago.

Maybe this will interest you, anon.

I will eventually write about North Kai Zamasu:

-Some shots of his childhood here and there.

-How he lived his life. With Daisy.

-Explain what regular kais do while writing his life as a north kai.

-Explain the differences between pain fruit shinjins and golden fruit shinjins. How it gave him internal struggles.

-Angst. I headcanon that Zamasu has NPD and autism. In one part, I will write conflict.

-The day where things brighten up greatly; the day where he's promoted to being an apprentice to his Supreme Kai. Something he couldn't believe at first because he hatched from the plain fruit

-The final bits will also foreshadow the future or something

It sounds like something really big but it's like... prolly just done within a few days LOL... i just need the mood for this but if it's done, it's done. I will also design U10's South kai, East kai, and West kai.

[neenack]

Lmao I'm a little confused about the kaioshin story after reading fandom.com and the likes of wikipedia. Kai (regular apple and golden apple) are born from the fruit of the World Tree and seem to go to different schools to learn????? And there are 5 kaios, 4 of which rule the sides of the world in the galaxy, the fifth is the kaioshin and they oversee their universe.

I'm now wondering where the “world tree” itself is and how the kaioshins end up in their universes? From what I understand, before Buu's attack, Shin had a semblance of a family of 4 and they all kept track of the quadrants of the universe. After Buu, Shin was left all alone and he became the kaioshin of his universe?????

Hey anon, thanks for sending me an ask! I've never gotten one of these before so this should be fun! 😄

Already, you make me feel like a Kaioshin expert, but I just recently caught up with Dragon Ball and discovered who they were, so I'm kinda in the same boat as you lol

To answer your questions, yeah, there was a Kai for each quadrant of Universe 7 (North, South, East, West) as well as a Dai Kaioshin/Grand Supreme Kai. Shin pretty much became the de facto Kaioshin/Supreme Kai of his universe after Buu's attack in the Kai world.

Apparently, all the information about Kai being born from the fruit of the World Tree and then going to school, etc. originates from supplementary material that had an interview with Toriyama in it as far as I know. I don't think any of it has found its way into the main canon but as it stands, the only facts(?) we know about the Kais are just words of god and haven't been fully confirmed. There's a chance Daima could expand on Kai lore, but there's still so much we don't know about it yet. It's too early to say but fingers crossed!

This is pretty much what I presume is on the wiki already, but here's a translation of the guidebook that has the info on the Kais, the World Tree, and the interview with Toriyama. I hope that helps! ^^

[bigchampa]

After that random attendant.

We have the four directional supreme Kais.

First up is north or Lyra. A long haired very busty Kai who is constantly bugged for milk by her GOD. It tastes like apple cider.

Definitely one of Champa's favorites for that reason. Sometimes, he'd drink it straight from the source because of how addicting it is.

[frostyduo]

°Hmmmmm.... I think i do understand. That sure is an odd game, isn't it? Hm... I would have included myself as option, but not sure if it is even allowed...

And including likes of Goku is simple, as he will be tossed at kill...

There arent many i know from the seventh, yet alone sixth, but i think i know.

Sin, marry, kill

Supreme kai Shin, Whis, Sheldon. Tho... i think he nowadays uses different name... He must be the north kai of seventh.°

(OOC: I headcanon king kai being named Sheldon since... no name)

Frieza: Mmm….I can’t say I’m a fan of these options….

Frost: Hmm. I guess I’d say….sin Whis, marry Shin, and kill King Kai.

Frieza: That was fast.

Frost: It wasn’t hard to think about. Shin is the little Kai with the mohawk, right? He seems easy enough to get along with if we were married. And Whis….well, I can’t deny he has a pretty face, and might possibly have years of experience in the sheets. And I’d only kill King Kai strictly because I have no desire to do the other two options with him.

Frieza: Huh. When explained like that….it seems entirely logical. I think I’d go the same way actually.

[shinjinsofthemultiverse]

Easy way to tell any OCs here apart: None of them wear earrings, and they never got their ears pierced. Or if they do, it's not potarra brand. None of them are interested in fusion tactic earrings. They prefer to wear plastic studs manufactured on any planet that makes them.

Established characters got their capsule[body] destroyed or absorbed by a djinn are isolated in the quadrant sector of the galaxy with a halo over their heads.

North [Supreme] Kai and West [Supreme] Kai got their capsules/body busted so they are doing their snake way training in the millions of years level in order to earn a resurrection to atone for their defeats by a djinn.

[duhragonball]

Dragon Ball Super 031

When Jaco and Bulma team up, anything could happen!   (Narrator: Nothing happened.)

Let’s try to go over Bulma’s plan here.  The upcoming Destroyer Invitational Tournament will decide who gets control over the Super Dragon Balls.  If Champa wins, he plans to wish for the Earth of Universe 7 to switch places with the dead Earth of Universe 6.  If Beerus wins... who knows?  But Bulma doesn’t want to find out.  Since Champa is the God of Destruction from U6, Bulma believes that there’s a second set of Super Dragon Balls in Universe 7.  So she aims to track them down and use them to undo any destructive wishes Beerus or Champa might have in mind. 

To do this, she needs a radar powerful enough to detect the Super Dragon Balls, and she also needs to take it to the center of the universe, where she can use the radar’s range will be as effective as possible.  So she calls in Jaco to take her there.  Except Jaco works for the Galactic Patrol.  Their ships aren’t designed to cover the vast distances from one galaxy to another.  They only operate inside of the one galaxy they’re in. 

Okay, a couple things.  First, I like that this detail is acknowledged in the story.  A lot of sci-fi/space fantasy franchises fail to recognize just how big space is.  Well, specifically, I’m thinking of DC and Marvel Comics.  The Green Lantern Corps divided the universe into 3600 sectors, then assigned a handful of GL’s to patrol each one, and somehow seven or eight of them always wind up sticking close to one planet in one galaxy in one sector.   If I remember right, their headquarters is located at the center of the universe, and Hal Jordan just zips back and forth like it’s no big deal. He also constantly runs into colleagues from other sectors, but, again, space is huge.  Aside from staff meetings on Oa, you would expect him to live out his entire lifespan without ever seeing a Green Lantern from another space sector.  Meanwhile, all of Marvel’s big intergalactic powers rule over entire galaxies.  The Skrulls have the Andromeda Galaxy, and the Kree have theirs and the Shi’ar have theirs.  I’ve lost track of all that lore, so maybe Marvel introduced some shitty new aliens called the Dipshittors to build on that concept, but the point is that the Avengers and Fantastic Four will just fly out to fight those guys whenever it’s convenient. 

Star Trek and Star Wars get it right, because those stories take place in one galaxy.  There’s like one episode where the Enterprise went to another galaxy and it was this insane thing that happened.  Maybe the new shows play with that idea more, but fuck the new Trek shows.  Scott Bakula’s dog can kiss my ass.  The point is that because those shows are confined to one galaxy, they don’t spent a lot of time talking about how impractical it is to go to a different galaxy.  It just never gets brought up. 

But that leads me to my second thing I want to talk about: Jaco seems to imply that Universe 7 is a lot bigger than we’ve heard in the past.  Maybe it’s just the dub, and I’m in no mood to go back and check the subtitles, but he talks about the multitudes of other galaxies in the universe, and how unbelievably far away it all is, and I feel like that conflicts with the cozy four-galaxy scenario introduced in Dragon Ball Z.   Earth is in the North Galaxy, overseen by the King Kai of the North, while the East, South, and West Galaxies are overseen by their own King Kais. 

Then again, I’m not sure how that was all established.  It comes up in the original Broly movie, which is mostly set in the South Galaxy, which all of the characters are able to reach without much trouble.  It also comes up in the Otherworld Tournament arc, because they have to explain who the other three Kais are. 

But I don’t know that it gets much play in the original manga.  Like, South Kai appears in the manga, and the Grand Kai is mentioned, and Kid Buu’s origin story refers to other Supreme Kais who used to work alongside Shin.  But I’d have to check to see if there’s any mention of just four galaxies.  Maybe it’s a Toei invention. 

Anyway, Jaco suggests an alternative: Visit the world of Master Zuno and ask him about the Super Dragon Balls.  I don’t see how that solves anything, though.  Zuno’s gimmick is that he knows everything, and he certainly seems to know everything, but even if he tells Bulma exactly where the Super Dragon Balls are, they could still lie far beyond the North Galaxy, and so they’re completely out of her reach.   Also, the SBD’s are the size of planets.  How was she planning to gather them all together?

Now, most of this episode is Jaco making cracks about Bulma’s age, and Bulma beating the absolute shit out of him for it.  Also, he tries to turn the tables on her by accelerating his ship really fast, but he winds up making himself nauseous as well.  They seem to utterly despise one another, and it’s not much fun watching them interact. 

I mean, for all intents and purposes, this episode is a direct sequel to the Jaco manga.  There’s even a flashback to the chapter where Jaco met Bulma, and she repaired his ship and flew it around Professor Omori’s island.

But the Jaco in that story was a lot more calm and collected, more of a detached observer of humanity.  We see him here freaking out about Tights’ little sister joyriding in his ship, but I’m pretty sure he was only mildly irritated about it in the manga.  The most upset Jaco ever got in the manga was whenever that police sketch came up. 

But now, in Dragon Ball Super, he’s become this cowardly little twerp.  At the beginning of this episode, he vents his frustrations with a little target practice, and accidentally destroys a space monument, which he tries to pin on a wanted fugitive in the area.  And that seems authentic for Jaco, but when he gets to Earth, all he does is try to find some excuse to leave, and when that doesn’t work he trades barbs with Bulma and lets her whoop his ass. 

Which is a shame, because there was something much more humanist about the original Jaco story.  It was about how the characters grew after working together and helping one another.  Jaco’s kind of a dick, and Omori was kind of a bitter misanthrope, but they still cared about one another because their better nature overcame their anti-social tendencies. 

This episode might have tried to hearken back to that theme, but it just doesn’t happen.  When they get to Zuno’s planet, Bulma and Jaco discover there’s a seven year waiting list just to ask Zuno a question.  Then they see this red frog dude show up for his appointment, and Jaco recognizes him as the crook he heard about earlier. 

So Jaco has a choice to make.  If he arrests this guy, he can open a spot on Zuno’s schedule and skip to the front of the line.  However, bringing in this frog guy might expose his lie about the destruction of that space monument.  On the other hand, the frog dude recognizes Jaco as a space cop, but he’s waited seven years for this appointment, and he decides to just play it cool and hope Jaco doesn’t recognize him. 

And Jaco... lets him go.  The frog dude was wanted for dine-and-dash crimes, so it’s not like he’s a violent offender or anything.  In fact, the reason he came to this planet was to ask Zuno how to dine-and-dash without getting caught.  That’s how into dine-and-dash this guy is.  For all his bluster, Jaco isn’t a model patrolman, and besides, this is his day off.  And Bulma’s mission is her problem, not his, so he doesn’t want to risk getting in trouble with his superiors over this. 

But then Bulma tells him they’ll just have to go home and take their chances on Beerus’ wish, and that spurs him into action.

Frog dude tries to take a hostage, but Jaco defeats him with ease, and Zuno’s attendants give him an immediate audience with Zuno out of gratitude.  This s basically the climax of the episode, and it’s presented like some character developing moment for Jaco, except... it really doesn’t work.  Maybe he took action because he didn’t like the idea of letting Bulma down, or he couldn’t stand the thought of failing a mission, or something like that.  But it looks more like he was more frightened of Beerus using the Super Dragon Balls than he was of getting in trouble at work.   And that’s not much of a conflict to build your story around. 

As for Zuno, well, he’s another alien like his attendants, only he has an even bigger head.  You have to kiss him before he’ll answer your questions.  Since Jaco’s a man, Zuno only gives him one question.  Jaco wastes it on a pointless demonstration.  He asks Zuno what Bulma’s bust size is, and he not only gives and answer, but extrapolates what Bulma’s bust size used to be before she got older.   He should have asked why the animators keep drawing Bulma’s blue jeans so weird in every episode. 

As for Bulma, she gets three questions, because she’s a lady, and Zuno is horny, I guess.  So this is just the same gag they used thirty years ago with Master Roshi.  Bulma wastes a question asking if Zuno will answer her questions.  Then she asks him to tell her about the Super Dragon Balls, and when he’s finished, she summarizes it all and asks if she got it right, and Zuno counts that as her third question.    Bulma offers to kiss him some more, but her time is up.

So the only useful information that came out of the whole trip was this: There’s only one set of Super Dragon Balls, which are scattered across Universes 6 and 7.  So Bulma’s plan was doomed from the start, because Champa already has most of the one set secured, and there’s no other SDB’s out there to use.  This also means that Champa must have been trespassing into Universe 7 to collect the SDB’s, since at least some of them must have been there.  But that hardly matters, since we already knew Champa had been lurking around behind the scenes.   We saw him destroy a planet, and then Beerus ran into him during the Golden Frieza battle.  Also, Beerus doesn’t care, since he plans to win the Super Dragon Balls in this tournament anyway. 

So this was all a pointless aside.  I guess this shot of Goku copping a squat with Jaco is kind of neat.  They didn’t interact much during the Res F stuff, so this is the first indication that they’ve met.

Also, Bulma gives Jaco some dairy products for the road, so I guess they don’t hate each other that much.

Oh, and this is the episode where Goku and Vegeta talk about how they like their feisty, feisty wives, and Vegeta says it’s because Saiyans are genetically predisposed to this.  And Piccolo’s astonished to hear this, and I really don’t know why he, of all people, would care.