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RIP Toriyama (and account related updates)

I'm just logging in to make this ooc post. I haven't been using this account for anything in a while cause I've been reading/watching other manga/anime and truth be told, I completely lost interest in RPing and the Supreme Kais just don't interest me anymore. If anything, the ordinary kais are the only interesting ones to me now.

Anyways, after reading about the cause of Toriyama's passing, it really puts back into perspective on how unpredictable things can be as one reaches old age. I also read that the condition is usually caused by head injuries. It's devastating that he passed away. I really enjoyed the OG dragon ball he wrote before I was even born. There were definitely some writing decisions he did that were way better than some of the animated material (ex future Gohan losing against 17 1-1 vs getting beaten down by both 17 and 18 in the animated version) and I like when he gets involved in drawing characters that only debuted in animated material.

I don't know exactly when I'll have enough interest in DB to make use of this account again. But, I'm going to give a nice slow read with the 42 manga volume collection I have, and well, best of luck for Toyataro to continue writing DBS on his own now.

If I'm ever motivated to use this account again, think I'll be turning this account into more of headcanons fun if I haven't already. And, if any of it sounds interesting to add into RP accounts or anything, feel free to add it. They're just ideas at the end of the day so don't feel the need to take them too literally/seriously.

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Toriyama Humor That I Love!

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Hakaishin OCs [quadrant level concepts]

This one is more manga centric. I think each quadrant supreme kai having a designated hakaishin or djinn appointed hakaishin would be an important learning curve to understanding the importance of having a rival to always spar and mutual improve and get stronger. Those with access to the manga or have seen original Z anime likely somewhat know which arc in particular I'm referencing. It is Buu Saga/Buu Arc

I don't mind new edition characters shown in S version anime [Ex. Hakaishins, Angels, etc.]. I just rather those hakaishins being bound by:

Grand Supreme Kai [ I don't mind much but I think in Mirai timeline Beerus being alive depends if Fat Buu is/was still alive and presenting the form shown after Kid Buu absorbed GSK...there doesn't seem to be a detailed proxy ordeal and it was established that he was around before GSK to be around when Old Kai was around So he's probably lived enough lifespans due to the whole quadrant proxy scheme as far as universe 7 is concerned.

Main Established Kais in S anime, provided they at least know how to: run, dodge, or transport away from any assassination attempts, if not combatant oriented.

Personally, it's easier to reference Makaios to be quadrant supreme kais outside universe 6 and 7 because the established constants is they actually bother to train throughout adaptations. Or instead someone science oriented like Towa. Personally, she fits more for a SkoT Universe 3 OC concept rival but honestly scientist-oriented makaioh concepts giving regular shinjins a run is what makes her cool, despite being game only.

Game concepts like that one Supreme Kai of Time, Chornoa, have screencaps of losing in 1-1 fights, getting "brainwashed", etc. Inclusivity concepts to factor her is challenging in a way since I think it's fun for her to use her "cooking skills" to troll enemies but using bit of ki to mask it as "something delicious". Her being aware it's bad but she uses that as steath/trickery against enemies and retaining neutral alignment as ensuring time goes accordingly. Cause, if the enemy chose to eat it by own accord, then it's not exactly 'defying fate' in technicality. Toriyama still had discreet involvement in the game so no harm in being inclusive to it.

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Easy way to tell any OCs here apart: None of them wear earrings, and they never got their ears pierced. Or if they do, it's not potarra brand. None of them are interested in fusion tactic earrings. They prefer to wear plastic studs manufactured on any planet that makes them.

Established characters got their capsule[body] destroyed or absorbed by a djinn are isolated in the quadrant sector of the galaxy with a halo over their heads.

North [Supreme] Kai and West [Supreme] Kai got their capsules/body busted so they are doing their snake way training in the millions of years level in order to earn a resurrection to atone for their defeats by a djinn.

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Hello! I see that your are taking drawing requests for dbz characters! What about Kai Shin? He'd be so cute 🥺🥺👉👈 pretty please!

feat. beerus being a bad influence

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i know goku facing down vegeta at the world tournament is like a serious moment but its so fucking funny because vegeta is just a 5′2″ republican

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randomly remembered the funniest part of dragon ball z

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Mirai Timeline Confusion

The more I think about the mirai timeline where every Supreme Kai in universe 7 died before the Goku Black arc, the more I realized how messed up it was for Super to introduce a character that literally erased Trunk's U7 (or an entire timeline) because Mr. Walking Time Aberration of a "protagonist" tried to use a "call god" card to fix a problem he caused.

And it backfired badly.

I don't fault new plot device characters like the Angels, Zen-oh, Hakishins, etc. for existing and being stronger than the protagonist. It's actually good to have characters that are meant to be stronger (Whis seemed to have no issues training two saiyans and it makes sense since he trained Beerus to get to where he is based off his caliber shown in anime,movie, and the manga even though I haven't read enough of Super Manga yet to make solid conclusion)

I just find it weird they try to act like time police but then you have a hakaishin unintentionally cause a split timeline to happen from trying to destroy a rogue kai er shinjin. I like dose of character flaws, don't get me wrong. Even like how Goku pulling the "getting a divine character's help" card just makes things worse instead of better.

But, it really goes to show how much damage it is to let a walking time aberration continue to be a protagonist, to a point where a support character had to be the one to save everyone in the tournament of power. Damn 17 proved how stupid the erasing ability is by being able to wish back character Zen-Oh erased with the Super Dragonballs.

I feel like DragonBall (Super) would've been simpler if they kept things at a creation and/or destruction level and not introduce "erase" as a concept altogether. Especially when a wish granting item can undo an "omnipotent character's" erases.

By the way, this is not a Goku bashing post. The character himself has shown times of accepting his death before, case in point cell games when he tried to move imperfect cell's self destruct body elsewhere and when he had no issues with trapping his brother, Raditz, in a hold and Piccolo dealing a finishing blow with Special Beam Cannon.

It's just Super makes it very clear that they really think Goku is the type to "call god" to fix problems vs Goku always tackling conflicts head on since a very young age in Dragon Ball.

I'm going to be blunt when I say this. The fun I enjoyed seeing in Super, was King kai, the angels, supreme kais, and hakaishins. Like those characters and the characters (17, 18, Krillin, Yamcha, etc.) that don't get much spotlight compared to the two Saiyans are fun to see. It would be nice to see the Angels, Hakaishin, and Supreme Kais again post tournament of power.

But, I know chances of that are pretty slim since focus goes back to U7 for obvious reasons. One day I'll try to catch up with Super content. But, current priority is budgeting and purchasing second-hand completed manga titles and immersifying in language learning that way.

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North Supreme Kai (and South Supreme Kai HC)

I dunno if Toei intentionally wanted to be subtle when having the North Supreme Kai's design consist of a mustache and sword. Doubt it. I only make that stretch cause late 80s to 90s is a game references sort of Era. So, it's very easy for folks like me to think there were subtle nods. But, given Future Trunks debuted with the sword first, it's probably just a homage as far as sword weapons are concerned, but with the anime designed North Supreme Kai:

I just think it's funny his anime design is the only one where you see a Supreme Kai wearing a mustache prior to Super regarding Universe 2's Supreme Kai also sporting facial hair. I don't agree that a character wearing a mustache is akin to old though.

NSK's mustache gives off someone of late 20s-50s impression. 50s could arguably be old. But, pretty sure bulk of 40-50 yearolds would probably get offended over being called old though, whether it is deemed old or not.

Regarding Kais, not supreme ones, I think only grand kai is the only one with anime design (+ Toriyama drew him even) wearing a beard

To be honest, it wouldn't surprise me if shinjins use creation ki to get their facial hair like that cause they saw another character have it.

It begs the question why a Supreme Kai, that can shoot ki, is using a sword? This character probably has a stash of Zelda games in his room and/or is an enthusiast when it comes to reading about historical weapons and was probably inspired to create swords based off the ones on history books.

I think South Supreme Kai likely was the one that he had convos with regarding Konat, considering Tapion "wields a magical sword and ocarina, which he says are gifts from God" (so says the wiki). Toriyama did spend time to design Tapion before even DBS Broly happened and any anime concepts that don't conflict with the 1-42 manga volumes Toriyama wrote is good it my book.

To add to previous point, given North positions likely have to fill in in place whenever a grand mantle isn't (like how North Kai is sometimes dubbed King Kai prior to conceptualization of a grand kai) present in the room, he probably tries to keep up to date with information regarding the other galaxies ontop of the northern galaxy

Considering planets take millions to billions of years to form, it's not out of bounds to assume both North Supreme Kai and South Supreme Kai were informed about swords and ocarinas, which I think that could be a subtle reference to some uh...videogame during the 80s and 90s?

I feel like this Supreme Kai would be the only one that has Mario levels of adventures when going places. Idk for a change, how about other supreme kais get the "adventurous" concepts rather than just designating the HCs to mainly "youthful looking" Supreme Kais like West (nickname for WSK), Chronoa, Shin, Zamasu, etc.

South Supreme Kai might look buff and strong (and he is proven to be) but sometimes, buff characters can geek out in medieval knight armor and he could totally be that guy probably knows how to comprehend those fancy DND morality charts between the U7 Supreme Kais and can explain it in simple version.

Mostly, because he probably knows the struggle whenever smart-elects use big words to make something simple sound complicated and he's like "they basically are saying this" guy, if he had to translate some random's complicated gibberish.

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Contrary to West Supreme Kai’s Anime design...

I like the idea that the supreme kai often changes her gender a lot/is very experimental with gender, to give contrast to the other three quadrant supreme kais just sticking to the masculine/neutral form out of convenience. Like, one day the guys are like “ok West feels feminine today” when seeing her appearance match the anime design and other days they are like “ok West now appears as flat as Shin, I guess West wants to go by masculine pronouns at the moment?”

The Grand Supreme Kai finds West’s constant gender changing confusing, since there are shinjins that are and don’t mind presenting as female and/or feminine. But, he’s not against it either cause either way, vanguards still gotta know how to fight regardless of how they present themselves as. So, he just dismisses it as “West just making room to have fun ontop of doing her tasks as Supreme Kai”.

Friendly reminder that North Supreme Kai and West Supreme Kai are the only two supreme kais that do not have a canon manga design. In fact, only Old Kai, Grand Supreme Kai, South Supreme Kai, and Shin (East Supreme Kai) have manga canon designs, as far as my 1-42 manga volumes are concerned.

I am not ignoring West Supreme Kai’s anime design. Non-binary characters can still present feminine, if memory serves. I just like to headcanon that “West” tends to change gender a lot out of experimental leisure and given they are no longer having a job to do after Buu arc, I think they’re just vibing around asteroids in Western Galaxy for the past 5 million years. Well, only after earning a resurrection and moving on.

Alternatively, maybe they’re just in world core after their mentioned debuts in the story-line being done? It’s not like Toriyama keeps readers up to date regarding the fate of plot device characters when he was writing the Buu arc decades ago.

I’m too lazy to come up with a proper nickname and as far as this blog is concerned, for characters wanting to interact with West Supreme Kai, they just go by “West” unless a character, in the RP thread, suggests a name. It’s not that I don’t want to give the character a name. It’s just...I am the last person that should ever suggest names, sadly.

Eh I dunno how Shin, North Supreme Kai, and South Supreme Kai would ever feel about dealing with a Supreme Kai constantly changing genders at the drop of a hat and/or for disguises. I think there’s a point where they just got used it just because it’s simpler to not question it. lol

Also, she doesn’t know who Zamasu is cause she’s not really up to date with the news as far as Super is concerned. It’s been 5 million years after-all. She probably never got meet Beerus and Whis either. I do have a silly oneshot writing exploring the idea. BUT, I dunno how Beerus and Whis would actually react to seeing “resurrected supreme kais” honestly. =/

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