#nonsentient ai

[ana-the]

[pilmyeol]

if the protagonist of piratesworld was different she would be on a quest to prove that the ais that destroyed the old world werent sentient or like bring her crew to court with her to argue for sentient machine rights but she just straight up doesnt want to. robot girl just wants to follow in her mothers footsteps instead of trying to legitimize her existence to the government

[inspectorspacetimerevisited]

Things could have been much, much worse for the inhabitants of AceSpace,

if the Maneaters or social-media devices had any level of sentience.

[sm-baby]

Daughter of caine and pomni

haha have some VERY rough concepts I made for fun.

The funny episode concept was: Able was playing with different generation options and used Caine and Pomni's code to make something... ended with an AI that acted like a little toddler... It was very temporary as they would only last for 24 hours before disappearing. Very nonsentient. Just cute AI Able left on Pomni's doorstep while he fixed his little mistake.

But cute Pomni trying to be maternal moments.. and Caine having a cute little "take your daughter to work" day.

[rosemariad]

It feels appropriate for those two 🤣

I mean...

I did a thing with the Bing AI chatbot asking it to write about Dean Winchester and Castiel - just to see what WOULD happen. I mean how much would it know anyway?

aaaaaaand apparently it too feels like a number of the fan base in that the two should've gotten together - it wrote its own little bullet point style fix it fanfic 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[toxic-lavender]

How is the solver like in this version? In Md I feel it was so complicated :,)❤️

OK OK so Drones are built off of a “Base Solver AI” that, as its name suggests, serves to aid the Drone in learning. Think of it like a core brain-stem function.

In short, the Absolute Solver (“THE solver”) is a corrupted form of this AI, with Cyn- the solver, not the drone- being the true sentient hive entity behind the infection. It seeks to destroy humanity due to seeing it as flawed (thanks, Elliots) and using Drones to recreate a sentient, dominant race of its own- the Disassemblers.

Other Solver hosts have a nonsentient form of the Solver that is connected to Cyn. This form is more like an instinct, a force rather than an entity. It gives its host cravings, urges, instincts, and traits that align with animals and organic beings.

feel free to send asks if you’ve got any questions about it I know my version is probably just as confusing as canon 😭

[inksandpensblog]

How I classify stickfigure types

Created: sticks that are made by a human creator (Victim, Chosen, Dark, Orange, presumably Ballista and the cave-painting merc).

Born: sticks that come into being through the combining of samples of the base code of two parent sticks, using methods that emulate biological reproduction [usually human*] (Purple, presumably Gold).

Cloned: sticks whose code is an exact copy of a preexisting stick…after it has already “come to life,” thus excluding sticks that are copies of the nonsentient template stick. [It should be noted that a sentient stick’s code can be copied from any point in their memory, meaning that clones of “previous versions” of the sentient stick are possible.]

Generated: sticks that are programmed into being** (Red, Yellow, Green, Blue, presumably Hazard, maybe the glasses merc)

Footnotes under the cut

*: Some created sticks and generated sticks are capable of emulating biological reproductive processes, while others are not. All born sticks are capable of emulating human biological reproductive processes, barring some mutation or defect in their code.

**: this doesn’t just include human programmers; sticks generated by AI also fall into this category, as do sticks that are generated by videogame mechanics (if a stick living in/playing the game does whatever needs to happen for the game to give the player a baby), as do sticks that are made for stick parents who might not be able to/want to conceive children to birth.***

***: Generated sticks whose code is a copy of one parent, rather than a combination of code from multiple donors, are not considered “clones” since the age and memory of the donor don’t transfer; the generated stick is still a baby, rather than being an exact copy of the donor at the time that their code sample was taken (or from any other time in the donor’s life other than the moment their code first began to run). Generating a baby stick for a single parent who was not, themself, ever an infant obviously means that taking a sample from way back in the beginning of their existence isn’t all their is to it.

[conarcoin]

I honestly really appreciate your nuanced approach to "AI" discussions because at the end of the day capitalism and corporate greed are the thing we should have a problem with, and generative models are a good strawman to dangle in people's faces so they'll get distracted from critiquing capitalism and advocating for regulations to instead start screaming and demanding the eradication of the models altogether.

haiii berry ily YEAH its always been like this, whatever convenient nonsentient thing can take the blame instead of the billionaires actively fucking people over

[hootbon]

Probably a stupid and obvious answered question but before the AI’s gained sentience did they just straight up have that box dialogue where you had to select a response to it

I will say, they were always sentient, but if they weren’t.. yeah. Yeah they would

(At least the main ai are, other ais like mannequin npcs or perhaps the audience would be nonsentient)

[amphiptere-art]

Dim was devastated when the old man stopped coming around. Being an animatronic. Death by old age wasn't something he really considered. Animatronics die when they get dismantled or injured. (Sure technically old age can get them by rust. But usually taking care of yourself extends that.)

So when the old man just didn't show up one day. They were completely confused and concerned. Plus they had the old man's hurty-gurdy. The old man had basically lent it, because Dim was going to try and do his best audition for Sun and Moon. Since sun and moon didn't know how to play any rock like instruments. So he was fully expecting to give it back. But the old man wasn't there. (In fact the old man was going to give him the hurdy-gurdy either way. He knew he was on his last strides.)

With the fact that Dim even did an audition. With an instrument that was not supplied in the pizzaplex. Everyone was pretty quickly learning that there was something different with dim. But like always. Sun and Moon were ignoring it. (Mostly for their own hides to not get in trouble.) But the others weren't quite so ignorant. Now Dim was being let out for a specified amount of time each day to play a song or two.

And they could notice the absolute sadness in Dim. DIm had come running too Eclipse quickly to ask why the old man wasn't there. He simply couldn't fathom that the old man wasn't around anymore. Or at least was stuck at home in bed. Eclipse tried his hardest to calm the little guy down. Basically having to explain slowly and painfully that even if the old man had simply been bedridden. They probably would never see him again. And Dim was very sad at this idea.

No one could ignore that dim got this hurdy-gurdy from somewhere. No one could ignore that dim. Despite having been in all their eyes nothing more than a simple AI. Was seemingly sulking and at times looks like he was going to cry. The kids couldn't ignore it either. The evil policeman version of Sun and Moon looked sad. They would play songs on stage and then immediately looks sad. Everyone was trying to talk with them, but Sun and Moon were gate keeping hard. Basically not allowing anyone to figure out what was wrong.

At least until that one scenario where the owner finally catches Dim talking with Eclipse. When they quickly catch on that dim is hiding something, and sun and moon aren't being nice to them. Sun and Moon are called out for what they did. And eventually even eclipse gets a point in time to chew them out. Even if it was extremely dangerous for him.

It took a while for anyone to even realize Dim had this old man friend. They kind of had to rebuild their relationships with Dim. They finally got to hear about it when eclipse was given freedoms by the owner. Who basically just helped dim start off. Everyone was practically surprised that this little AI had a companion even when he was a tiny nonsentient drone. And at that point didn't finally had a group other than eclipse just sort of grieve with.

The old man never came back and no one could really figure out who he was. The warehouse isn't necessarily incredibly close to any living areas. Sure it's closer to a bunch of stores. But no one could track down a nearby housing district that possibly had the old guy. He was gone. But even when Dim was given a new hurdy-gurdy far more themed to the pizza place. He kept the hurdy gurdy. One part of him hoping that somebody would recognize it and tell him what happened. And another part to just remember him.

[stardust-arcade]

Moon, that’s your problem right there. You’re treating them as lesser, whether you realized it or not. Stopping them from pursuing their interests because you think it should be stressing them out is treating them as lesser. Trying to push them into roles you think they’ll be good without asking at is treating them as lesser. Ignoring what they want because you think it will “help” is treating them as lesser.

Black Star is just as sentient as you, and that means he grows and develops just like any newer AI. And he gets stressed when he’s forced to do something he dislikes, just like you or anyone else would, regardless of how good he is at it. Programmed skills only determine how skilled you are at something, not how much you’ll enjoy it, or how much you want do to it. And he doesn’t enjoy what he was made to do, just like Bloodmoon didn’t.

All you have done is hurt older AIs in some misguided attempt to “help”. Because you think you know them better than they know themselves. Because, you might not have realized it, but you think you are better than them. And you need to work on that if you ever want any of them to trust or like you.

Moon: I didn't- I didn't think I was- a line had to be drawn! There was clearly differences! Eclipse is a clear example of that. I didn't think drawing a line would negatively affect everyone. I just wanted to make sure they got support. I didn't mean to push Black Star away. I just wanted to take care of him. Take care of all of them! I didn't want to see them as lesser I just... Knew they were not the same level.

Sun: Moon are you okay?

Moon: No. I fucked up.

Sun: In what way? Weren't you going down to check parts and service? Figure out everything in your new order or whatever.

Moon: Yah, But I found Black Star, And he was grabbing parts. Freaking out about something.

Sun: Agh! What could you have fucked up with him? Are you blaming yourself again for making some non-sentient thing-

Moon: He's not a nonsentient thing! He's alive and breathing or whatever! And I fucking ruined his life, because I can't even offer the help that I've been telling him to get!

Sun: Wha? Moon he's an old AI. And I'm sure you can get whatever help you're talking about now.

Moon: He's not that old Sun.

Sun: Sure he is. He's like.. 10 or 12...

Moon: He's 9

Sun: 9, right! He's 9. He's ancient!

Moon: He's one year younger than blood moon Sun.

Sun: Well!- eh- ... Really?

Moon: He's only one year younger than the Nexus that Blood Moon uses. He's practically identical, He's just missing a couple unique emotive responsers. Most are very specific.

Sun: What kind of specific?

Moon: About a 50 word sequence line of multiple emotional, physical, history, knowledge, person profile level of specific.

Sun: Oh... I don't really understand that, but I assume it's a minor thing.

Moon: Correct. It's very minor. Black Star is basically missing 20 complex emotional responses from us.

Sun: That's... Quite little.

Moon: Yep... We were fools.

Sun: How did you even figure that all out so quick? I thought we knew nothing about Black Star.

Moon: He had a whole pile of history and paperwork in parts and service. It's quite a bit of information.

Sun: Oh... So. He's not as dumb as Eclipse? Or emotionally incompetent.

Moon: Nope. Eclipse is a fragmented AI torn out of its tangle from a arcade. It's not exactly a good backdrop to compare. I think I would act like that if I went through it.

Sun: Humm. I think I can get why you said you fucked up now.

Moon: Yep.

[ultravioart]

Also I read up a little bit more about omnic lore and it seems the basics are:

Mina Liao essentially created the brand of robots we know as omnics. She is the direct creator of Aurora, Athena, and later Echo. Aurora was the first sentient omnic, and the first omnic to achieve legal personhood. Then the omnic crisis happened. The god ai Anubis (supercomputer ai gone rogue) controlled nonsentient omnic drones to fight humanity and aimed to eradicate humans. Anubis lost the war, and was contained. During sometime after the omnic crisis, Aurora sacrificed herself in hopes of giving sentience to other omnics, in an event called "The Awakening," and it was successful. It seems this is where the Iris was born, as golden light had flashed from her body during the event. (It seems the Iris may be some kind of god ai harnessing light tech, an 'ascension' of Aurora's intelligence? Zenyatta's extra arms seems very similar to the light tech Lifeweaver and Symmetra use.) The omnics connected through the Iris is this "finite generation" of omnics Ramattra refers to, and wishes to protect. In reality, any omnic's body can be rebuilt, but no new sentient life/mind can be created. This means sentient omnics connected to the Iris are gone for good when killed. No amount of replacement parts can bring back that unique sentience/life. Each omnic is apparently able to feel the "loss" of a fellow sentient omnic life, and this kind of intelligence may be similar to colonial organisms like Siphonophores or super organisms like Ant colonies. The Iris seems to be an intelligence blurred between a "colony" and an "individual" organism. A hivemind that nests itself in sentient omnics, if you will. It seems Sentient Omnics default to "base programming" when under duress. Bastion has PTSD that flashes him into default war programming, and Ramatta's grief and trauma pushed him into his R-7000's base programming of commanding drones into war. We can even see how Orisa had changed personality over time, even though she is not a part of the Iris-sentience, so it seems life experiences shape the intelligences of omnics compared to a "default" programming they all have. Echo is very much still in this "default" base programming, she acts very similar to Orisa when she was new to the world. It seems most sentient omnics are aro-ace, with some sentient omnics either being romantic or open to romantic relations, as seen with omnic-human couples. It also seems sentient omnics have no concept of gender, with omnics picking up gender identities from humans/pre-sentience experiences of the roles they used to play in human culture. Echo is an exception, for she was made with Mina Liao's visage, and seems to embrace that. "Omnic" is just a brand of robot, so there are various omnics that are not "sentient" in the same way Iris-connected omnics are. Wrecking ball's robot, Torbjörn's turrets, Athena, and Orisa are all examples of omnics that are not a part of the Iris-sentience. Lastly, there are some parts of omnic culture that are unique. Lots of clothing for omnics seems to be about self expression and personal sentimentality, avoiding areas like shoulder joints for easier movement. From Ramattra's story it seems physical contact, like a comforting hand on the shoulder, is inherently human, so omnics presumably do not touch each other normally. It also seems omnic emotions are hard for humans to understand, and human figurative ways of speech ("the apple doesn't fall far from the tree", etc) are hard for omnics to understand (Zenyatta still struggles with this sometimes). Some omnics are not capable of understanding human humor. From one of the comics it's shown that it is funerary custom for omnics to graft a part of a lost friend to themselves in memory, like welding bits of metal to themselves, or attaching wires. This may very well be what Ramattra's "hair" is--sections of spinal cable from other Ravagers, as the only way Ramattra can repair himself to use parts from scrapped R-7000 kin. A notable red cord may very well belong to Lanet, a colleague and friend he lost during the London uprising.

[snowe-zolynn-rogers]

New AU drops (so I don’t forget these later). There’s six of em but one of em’s in a cage because it bit me.

Wiped Moon AU: At the end of October, Eclipse rips Lunar from Moon before the fight with Blood Moon, which wipes both of them completely. Lunar retains half of his own memories, but Moon is a complete blank slate back down to nonsentient even and has to be retaught everything that isn’t in his base coding.

Different Brother AU: Eclipse kills Moon just before the fight with Blood Moon (after Moon called the twins) at the end of October and Sun manages to reactivate only Lunar afterwards and now they have to try to get along without the Moon buffer of trust smoothing a lot of things over but they also very much need comfort and a brother so they become inseparable.

Solar Daycare AU: Lunar’s activation fries both Moon and Lunar’s AIs and inevitably kills the both of them. Despite it being Eclipse’s fault their brothers are dead, both of them have to cope with their brothers’ deaths, which Eclipse does, in fact feel guilty and haunted by. Sun eventually gives Eclipse a second chance to be his brother, after they’ve healed a little from the trauma of seeing their brothers die in their arms, and Eclipse tries to be the best replacement brother he can, despite Sun assuring him he doesn’t have to act like Moon for him.

Sacrificed Moon AU: Moon takes Eclipse into his own body before Eclipse transfers Lunar to him and he purposely does a spell that will sacrifice him to kill Eclipse and all his backups. Sun eventually finds Lunar buried somewhere not yet activated in his mindscape and puts him in his own body with the help of Monty.

Wiped World AU: The Newton Star goes off late, after the battle when Blood Moon has already won and left Sun and Eclipse beaten and nearly broken in the daycare and is hunting down and killing Lunar and Moon. Eclipse, despite being heavily injured, tries to crawl to the star and turn it off only for it to go off when he touches it, which resets the world to just Sun and Eclipse left. Since he’s remorseful, Eclipse doesn’t become a god, but rebuilds the world exactly as it was, and, though the world fixes itself, since Moon and Lunar were already dead, they don’t end up coming back in the fixed world.

OCs for these AUs

Wiped Moon AU

Micronova: Sun

Varda: Moon

Ilmare: Lunar

Different Brother AU

Borealis (Bor): Sun

Australis (Alis): Lunar

Solar Daycare AU

Blitzar: Sun

Neutron: Eclipse

Sacrificed Moon AU

Blazar: Sun

Rhea: Lunar

Wiped World AU

Preon: Sun

Boson: Eclipse

[unidentifiedfuckingthing]

the relevant thing about ai being used for revenge porn or otherwise faked explicit photos is that because this has been a problem literally since the invention of the picture, if you actually could shut down all image generation ai forever, people would still be producing faked explicit photos. and like, compared to other malicious faked images, faked nudes are INCREDIBLY easy to make. you can just take any explicit picture and any person's head into a free editing program with no editing skills and splice them and make a relatively convincing image. like, you can even just mormon bubble porn an unedited real image. the solution is to figure out how to stop such a huge volume of people wanting to make malicious explicit imagery of other people, because the tools that allow them to do that are already easily accessible and unrealistic to try and unmake, because normal people in normal life in the digital age will always want image manipulation programs, and having access to those will always allow for the ability to fake malicious images. the fact that people just immediately skip past the idea of investigating why people like to make malicious images and then doing things to stop it because, like, i guess its too unrealistic to think the human element is changeable at all? because the source of revenge porn isnt real people with motives, its just a deep pit of nonsentient evil on the deep web? is kind of distressing

[janijams]

Head canons/theories/things I noticed in reference to the new fnaf dlc

(SPOILERS)

All the models are different. Like big different. Roxy's whole face was remodeled (it honestly looks better in dlc), I don't pay attention to monty but there's gotta be some differences there, same with chica, all Freddy models I could find online don't have prototype on the foot like dlc Freddy, etc.

Freddy reminds me of nightmare fredbear with the stomach teeth thing going on

There's no arcade or atrium and we do not see much of the lobby, this is probably due to file size or something

It looked like the blob showed in on that one staircase with the big hole in the wall, though I am unable to confirm

THE DAYCARE ANIMATRONIC.

Has the same inner set of teeth as the mimic.

They have an inner set of teeth! That arent supposed to be seen on them when they're not messed up, which could either be some weird in universe design choice, or part of a past design they didn't wanna take out. Either way it's weird.

Their left eye looks bloodshot and human almost, it looks awesome and there's probably some explanation for it like the led in the eye being messed up with the rest of that side of the face

Their pants have wire in them, meaning the pants are solid, probably so children don't get hurt by the endoskeleton

The wrench socket in the back of their head is dlc only, the sun model (aka both models, moon is just repainted sun) do not have this at all, though there is space for it

Their torso also has wire like the pants do, though its hard to see

Their hands don't have any outer shell on them, or ALL of the paint has chipped away which I don't believe

All animatronic ai is weird, reminds me of before release builds where the ai doesn't update as fast as the player moves, except it's less obvious in the dlc and could be written off as a purposeful thing

The dlc kind of follows the same path as security breach. Enter, start going places, get sidetracked, go to daycare, deal with animatronics one at a time, one technically doesn't die, multiple endings where u have to do certain things to unlock them

The comic pages are interesting, they show pages from different endings which is odd and doesn't make sense in universe unless Gregory drew them and has crazy creativity.

BONNIE IS BLUE OH MY GOD HE'S BLUE

Bonnie is also gay, like why would supossedly nonsentient animatronics have permission to keep very queercoded posters from their bestie.

I'm loving it though

The minigames in the dlc were in the code of security breach unfinished, they probably recycled them since there was no reasonable place them in a main game update

I believe there was an extremely unfinished bowling game, I don't think it was in the dlc which is tragic

The weird glitch in the vanni mask is likely glitchtrap remnants, if it's confirmed I love the (re)design.

The camera system wasn't very useful with distracting animatronics, using it could be easily avoided in most areas (still a very cool mechanic though)

And that is all, I don't think many people will read this far, if at all, but it's nice just to get this all out of my head