#nonius horses

[horsesarecreatures]

Nonius Horses

[damselflyjewelfly]

Horses

@hetalia-aushun-week

[hippography]

Nonius XXIX. 

J. Mannerheim, 1896, Berättelse till Landtbruksstyrelsen öfver en år 1893-94 med statsunderstöd företagen resa i utlandet för studier i husdjursafvel.

[oconswrld]

Carlos Sainz depicted as a hungarian csikós. This costume in particular is a modern day version. but i hope i can get another drawing of ?? driver in old time clothes

Some answers to people who aren't familiar ;

What are csikós? The csikós (singular) is a horse-mounted herdsman of Hungary.

What are they like in modern times? In recent times, csikós have been particularly tied to the environs of Debrecen and Hortobágy National Park, the latter deploying csikós to watch-over and maintain large herds of free-ranging native Hungarian ungulate breeds, including cattle, horses and sheep.

What type of horse do they use? The csikós tradition is also tied to the Nonius (Noniusz), a breed of horse with an epicentre of breeding in the Máta Stud, located some 3 kilometres from Hortobágy.

Where can you see them? As said earlier the Hortobágy National Park has quite a few of them, but other than these moments there are plenty of events where they put on shows, displaying the horse's talents and purpose.

Uncolored, and unfinished version;

[morning-star-stables]

Edits to one of the horse models. This one was called "war horse" and is on the taller/thicker side. These are all current edit progress and not necessarily final. May tweak in future.

In order:

Default asset (use as Boerperd/Canadian Horse)

American Saddlebred

Morgan/Welsh Cob D (Cob will have leg feathers to distinguish it apart)

Criollo/Barb (Criollo will have coat patterns of high white spotting and dilutions to distinguish it apart)

Georgian Grande/Nonius (former will have a wide range of coat colors to distinguish it apart)

Knabstrupper/Friesian Sport Horse (former will have spotted coats; latter will have leg feathers)

Wielkopolski/Latvian Warmblood (former will have a wide range of coat colors to distinguish it apart)

*Mule ("hidden"--wouldn't be available in normal gameplay; testing the possibility)

*Unicorn ("hidden"--wouldn't be available in normal gameplay; testing the possibility; would have leg feathers)

Ends with default asset again

*Don't know if/how I'd include these. I just wanted to test out if they were a possibility (I'd edit the conformation more for the mule if I did). I like when games have that one hidden, goofy model edit so I'd ideally have something like that, too.

[divdurvart]

From my fantasy world “Jask”, these were going to be the “beast races”, only the horse race is officially in the world though.  Modeled after the saker falcon, nonius horse, brown bat, and mangalitsa pig.

[incorrect-house-of-nine]

When you google how to spell the name of a hero from an epic classic and you get a some what endangered horse breed.  (The horse girl in me was fed.)

I mean, the Nonius totally looks like a Niner horse,  (If they didn’t try to eat it instead. Just saying.)

[horsesarecreatures]

Nonius Lótenyésztő Országos Egyesület

[katakaluptastrophy]

These are all such good points, especially about the politics of the First vs the Cohort (I'm so intrigued and wish we knew more about whether there is tension here!)

I feel like one element here is definitely Abigail's experience with the twins, who she's known since they were children. What I find interesting is that Ianthe is also very dismissive of the Fifth in general and Abigail in particular in TUG - they're mentioned at much greater length than anyone else from Canaan House. Which makes me wonder if it's not just Ianthe's vibes, but that she and Abigail have some kind of ongoing disagreement and dislike. Which is in some ways quite funny, considering that Abigail is much closer in age to Ianthe's parents. Coronabeth is also affable in quite a Fifth House way when she wants to be.

Though on the note of none of these people being entirely moral in quite the way we might want them to be... By that point Abigail knows what a Lyctor is: she talks to Harrow about "the preserved soul that made you a Lyctor." Given Cytherea's love of a good villain monologue, I suspect she may have learned that straight from the horse's mouth... She also knew Babs as a child, but her reaction to learning that Ianthe is a Lyctor and ~relatedly~ Babs is dead is to express that Coronabeth should have been a Lyctor instead! Which I guess goes to show that even being married to your cavalier doesn't prevent you from sometimes going with the awful logic of your society. Or, possibly, she just really hated Babs?

But going back to your point about Corona's politics: I think she would definitely read as the better all-rounder - personable, apparently necromantically powerful, and politically literate in a way that perhaps accords with the interests of the Fifth...

I personally read Abigail as being quite religiously devout in her own way: she may think god doesn't understand the River, but she also thinks that's totally in line with an orthodox doctrinal reading to think that ("he never claimed omnipotence"). And despite intellectually understanding him to not be omnipotent, that doesn't stop her from praying before trying to summon Matthias Nonius. She studied on the Eighth, so there's a good chance one of her degrees has some kind of religious or ecclesiastical history bent to it. That said, it's clear that no one at Canaan House quite knows what to make of Lyctors: they're religious figures, but also people your high ranking friends in the military have occasionally seen pottering about on spaceships. And I suppose when god is also the emperor, the distinction between religious and political and military all gets a bit complicated...which would be all the more reason to want apparent safe pair of hands Coronabeth as a Lyctor. And if there is any kind of tension between the First and the Cohort, that's something a power like the Fifth would be watching very closely.

Do you have any Coronabeth Worsetwin thoughts about Abigail's reaction to finding out Ianthe become a Lyctor in HtN ("Blast. It should have been Coronabeth. Ianthe never was quite the thing")? I love Abigail but ngl I am also a Corona Worsetwin truther in part because I would find it much more satisfying for one of the series' designated Rational Moral Adults to be categorically wrong about Corona.

OH I love this! I hadn't really thought out it until now, but my first reaction is that it might have been just the general "Ugh, yuck, Ianthe?" vibe that she seems to evoke, since she's very much unpleasant on main. But when thinking about it more in-depth, I think Abigail's perception of WHY Corona would be more suited to Lyctorhood depends on which qualities Abigail thinks a Lyctor should possess that Ianthe lacks.

One thing about Abigail in HtN is that she is as much of an atheist as you can get in TLT, but also she seems to have a sort of romanticised view of John (calling him "the Kindly Emperor", "I've longed my whole life to give him my findings") and I wonder if this extends to her conception of Lyctorhood as a sort of state of idyllic quest for knowledge — "the beauty of necromantic mysteries" as Harrow puts it. She's also the leader of a House known for its diplomacy, influence, and not-so-subtle expansionistic ambitions.

So, is she thinking about Corona's diplomatic skills? Her political knowledge? Or — because at this point she still believes Coronabeth is also a necromancer — is she thinking that Corona was the better necromancer than Ianthe, as it was widely speculated?

Going wildly off into headcanon land, we know Abigail has anti-Cohort sympathies (as per Judith's files) and I wonder if that plays a part. We know that Corona regards the Houses's expansionistic strategy as inefficient, but I don't think it's something Abigail would know. Maybe she just thinks Corona would be able to assert authority over the Cohort better? (One of my pet speculations is that there's some antagonism between the Cohort and the Lyctors, and if that's actually a thing Abigail could be aware of it.)

I think it's a combination of Corona's people skill, her personal experience with both twins, and the fact that Ianthe actively puts off everyone she meets.

(If anyone has any opinions about Abigail here PLS feel free to add, I too love her but she's one of the hardest characters to figure out for me)

Personally, a solid 40% of why I am a Corona Worsetwin truther is because I think it's hot. The rest is her everything in NtN / AYU from the threatening suicide to statecraft scheming, with a smattering of that one Taz interview <3 I'm excited to see her wreck havoc in AtN.

[fixaidea]

On a logical level I know that Nonius was this epic swordsman, but every time I see the name I still can’t help picturing this guy:

[hippography]

Figur 4. Pepinier Nonius Hengst, Gestüt des Grafen Eltz, Vukovar. (Turković.) 

Prof. Dr. Albert Ogrizek, 1930, “Ein Rassenbild der jugoslavischen Tierzucht”, Züchtungskunde, Band V.

[barnulv23]

Horses I did, Sorrows and Devotee, my OCs

[natduskfall]

She is not an equestrian when she arrives on Jorvik. I thought the SH could be her lesson horse. Just another horse in the stable that are there but she takes a liking to him and he to her. The comedy of her is that she is supposed to be a soul rider, but cannot ride properly yet.

I have been tempted to make her SH into a breed that is common in my area, and that i like. I thought about Noriker, or Kladruber. Tho i dont see how those would get to Jorvik, and i dont think Thomas would be willing to sell a Kladruber to newcomer.

Another horse i have been thinking if lately is the Nonius.

But by that logic of having a common horse for my country, and ome that is for starting riders and not super expensive, it would be either a halflinger, or a Czech warmblood.

How did you decide what horse would be your MCs main?

I still cannot decide whether i want my MCs starbreed to be the canon Jorvegian warmblood, or some random breed I like

[thunderboltfire]

Waaaay overdue guy whom I probably haven’t posted here. I decided to make a hungarian breed and here goes the Noniusz in traditional equipment! :)

Made in GIMP.

[paperuniverse]

We ended up talking nations horses in the rp today so I am gonna assign some horses to the nations despite knowing next to nothing about horse breeds.

Spain’s horse was an Andalusian horse and his name was Casaño (literally meaning brown/chestnut lol).

Austria’s horse was a male Lipizzan named Adagio (headcanon stollen from @j-ellyfish).

The Italies were both gifted Bardigiano’s by Austria when they were young as they’re apparently good with children. N.Italy’s is named Titian (male) and S.Italy’s Bellona (female). (Left is Titian, right Bellona).

Hungary I believe would own more than one horse because she’s definitely a horse girl. But one she does have is a Nonius, and her name is Anikó. She’s had her for a long time and often rode her into battle.

[candela888]

Mounted stock herders or “cowboys” in Europe

A buttero or cavalcante is an Italian mounted herder, usually of horses, cattle, or buffaloes, predominantly in the Maremma region of Tuscany & northern Lazio, or in the Pontine Marshes to the south. They sometimes participate in various celebrations of Jesus Christ's Passion.

In 1890, Buffalo Bill took his Wild West show to Rome (during his tour of Europe) to display cowboy skills. Unimpressed, the Italian butteri led by Augusto Imperiali challenged Buffalo Bill to a contest of skill. The butteri proved far more experienced, & won all competitions.

A campino is a cattle herder in the Portuguese region of Ribatejo. Campinos work on horse-back, using a long pole (a pampilho or lance) to manage and direct the herd. Campinos are also known for their attire, which consists of a green and red stocking cap with a tassel.

The inhabitants of the Spanish city of Salamanca are called "charros". Among these, the inhabitants of the regions of Alba, Vitigudino, Ciudad Rodrigo and Ledesma are specifically known for their traditional "ganadería" heritage and colorful glitzy clothing.

The csikós is the mounted horse-herdsman of Hungary. The csikós tradition is closely associated with the Hungarian puszta (The Pannonian Steppe). It is also closely linked to the Nonius breed of horse.

The gulyás is the traditional mounted cattle-herdsman of Hungary. The gulyás tradition is associated with the Hungarian puszta and with the Hungarian Grey or Hungarian Steppe breed of Podolic cattle. Gulyás is the origin of the word goulash.

A gardian is a mounted cattle herdsman in the Camargue delta in Provence, southern France. The Camargue is known for its beautiful white horses, which are considered to be one of the oldest breeds in the world.

The czaban were the traditional cattle herdsmen of the Polish people. Their cavalry was among the most highly regarded in earlier centuries. From the Middle Ages onward, vast herds of cattle were driven by these cowboys from Poland and Hungary to markets in Germany,

The Vaqueiros d'alzada are a northern Spanish nomadic people in the mountains of León and Asturias, who practiced transhumance, i.e. moving seasonally with cattle. Historically, the vaqueiros were characterized as a free people in the mountains.