#no hate or disrespect toward OP

[mylifeispainandiloveit]

Im gonna add my two cents to this, because some comments on this post made me a lilbit upset.

Firstly, everyone is entitled to their own opinion (obviously). If you dont like reading about toxic relationships, fair enough, just dont read them. And most (if not all) fics I've read that have any amount of toxic relationship even hinted at, that relationship isnt romanticized. Writing about something doesnt mean you're romanticizing it. It is easy to not read about something you dont like, you can filter and block tags (ive done it) i feel like i can confidently say ive never read a fic where toxic/abusive relationships were portrayed as normal, or good. (Not to say there arent any, as im sure there are) but the majority of writers write toxic/abusive relationships full well knowing what it is and that its not good.

Secondly, please dont shame or insult people who do read/write it. They're just living their life. And its not uncommon for people who have been traumatized to want to read/write something that may have been similar to their past. Its a way they cope, and fics arent hurting anyone, so just let them cope however they need to.

As someone who has been in an abusive relationship, been manipulated/groomed and SA'd; there is nothing wrong with reading or writing about toxic relationships, abusive situations, dubcon, noncon, or anything else. Its fanFICTION, its not real, nobody is being harmed by it.

I agree with OP that romanticizing toxic or abusive relationships can be dangerous, and should never be portrayed as something that should be wanted. And if there is an author who truly promotes abusive relationships as a good thing (red flag!!) Then i think it is fair to warn people about that author, (not insult them) just say that abuse is shown in a good light. This is why properly tagging this is so important, so nobody gets blindsided by something they were not prepared for. Also i really want to reiterate, writing about something doesnt mean youre romanticizing it.

TLDR: everyone can have their own opinions and viewpoints, but that doesnt mean you should shame/insult authors. It is so easy to block tags, if you dont like it then dont read it. Some people use darker fics as a copeing mechanism for their past, and theres nothing wrong with that. Romanticizing abuse can absolutely be dangerous, and any fic that paints abuse in a positive way should be tagged as such. And if it isnt tagged, you can (repectfully) tell the author that it should be. And i cannot stress this enough -- writing about something does not mean youre romanticizing it!!!

i have the biggest dislike towards writers that think it’s okay to romanticise toxic relationships. idk if it’s a kink or if you’ve never been traumatised before, but wtv the reason, it’s fucking wrong. people are hurt, they suffer, they could potentially die from a toxic relationship. it’s nothing to romanticise. toxic partners are just abusers, whether mentally or physically or both. please understand the gravity and reality of toxic relationships before trying to turn it into something normal, and worse, something that should happen. it shouldn’t at all be something you long for and crave, it should be something you should always avoid no matter what.

i also find it just annoying turning the most innocent and kindest characters/people into these horrible partners that would do unimaginable things. please just get a grip.

[cosmic-walkers]

enough time has passed but something about the way nonblack and even some black people would cling on to louis and be very empathetic and understanding of his struggle as a black queer man, but in the same breath would be very cruel to black women in his narratives like claudia and his sister, and the black girls he pimped out, makes me realize how louis was a character that certain people clung on to to say that they cared about queer black people and our struggles, but because of that they felt they had an excuse to be misogynistic to black women. it's that whole 'louis is my favorite character, he is a black and queer man so even if i say unfair things about the black women in the show, I'm not racist because i like louis'. Keep in mind, Louis himself has a history of repeated violence against black women.

I saw this post on twitter, mostly being consumed by nonblack people and it shocked me the way that people completely reworte grace's character and her relationship with louis to make her seem worse than lestat. nevermind the fact that grace accepted louis and his sexuality and was kind to him, and the only reason she started turning on him was because he became distant and violent after being with lestat.

The need to call an actual black woman racist, when lestat is right there-- who is canonically racist and compared to a slave master is beyond me. but it makes me realize the hostility for black women in shipping spaces, and how a lot of nonblack, and yes, some black people liking louis gives them a certain shield to release that misogynoir because they know at large they won't be held accountable. Loustat is a big ship, the most popular, louis is the most liked character, of course when black women - the most hated people in fandom spaces - go after him it's a free for all.

Keep in mind, this is their mother's service, and both Louis, Claduia and Lestat were incredibly disrespectful. Keep in mind the time, when racism was also a huge issue. So bringing a man who IS racist to a somber BLACK family function like this...yeah... Grace has every right to be mad. Especially after all the chances given.

Op also brings up this scene. Again it's crazy to me how Grace, a Black woman who has also faced this type of racism if not WORSE is suddenly painted as a racist when Lestat himself is standing right there. Yes, back then it was (and still is) racist for white people to call men boys, but assuming that Grace is doing it because of racism, and not the fact that at this point after abandoning his family, Louis lives completely off of Lestat. This again, shows a divide, because why are you as a non-black person calling a Black woman racist and comparing her to a racist lawyer and not his actual racist white bf.

I also saw this response to that very tweet, and we see a person actually happy that louis is violent toward her.

like i mentioned before, louis has a history of violence toward black women. his sister, the girls he pimped and claduia. instead of seeing that as something to be called out about his character, people are extremely happy when he enacts violence toward black women. so yeah, food for thought.

and i also show this pic below. Louis kisses/touches her without her consent. she is afraid of him, he has been violent toward her. he threatens violence against, and he touches/kisses her without her consent to show her that he has the ability to hurt and harm her and no one can stop him if he wants to.

This doesn't stop with Grace.

Like it's clockwork. Louis is violent to Cluadia, and then throughout season 2 in France he is emotionally distant and abusive toward her. her whole existence is to cater to his needs and desires because he wanted her. their relationship started off as a form of exploitation, desire and abuse to please HIM and at the end of the day she suffered for it and he still gets to live, he finds lestat at the end, etc. but black women in his life literally suffer.

Lastly, I wanna say that it's clear louis is in an abusive relationship of some sorts, and I'd be open to talking about that if OP and a lot of other loustat shippers didn't make it seem like Grace is worse to Louis than lestat ever was.

update:

then we have gems like this <3.

[gloriousburden]

(No disrespect intended towards OP whatsoever ‼️)

If you read any of my posts about Loki, let it be this one. I feel this is the best and most coherent I’ve been able to explain why I dislike the series so much.

Found this from a post analyzing Loki’s costuming throughout the MCU and it’s just… really depressing to me. Got me thinking.

(OP is speaking in favor of the series btw)

He had all freedoms taken away from him. Even the most basic such as dressing himself. He couldn’t even express himself stylistically/through his clothing.

‘He is forced to wear the same clothing as his captor.’

They’re aware.

Love and connection can change others, but this is him changing himself in order to receive that “love” and “connection.” (You guys already know how I feel about his “relationships” in the series, but let’s just go with it for now.)

Loki has never been loved or accepted for who he is, and instead of the series uplifting/proudly presenting those traits of his that haven’t been loved by others, they have him abandon those traits instead. You can only be loved or accepted if you change every aspect of who you are. You can only be included if you strip yourself of who you are. That’s the message the series/his characterization in the series sends. It doesn’t send a message of acceptance, and friendship. He couldn’t even be accepted “despite” who he is. How is him changing who he is to feel a sense of belonging acceptance?

(And I don’t even mean traits such as his coldness or harshness. No, I mean everything from his own way of speaking, his intelligence, his ability to stick up for himself, his ambition, his mischievousness, just… all of it. He lost even the non “difficult” traits.)

He wasn’t worthy of being loved as is. He had to conform in every way. From the way he expresses himself, all the way to his mannerisms. Consciously, and subconsciously. He rejected pieces of himself, to become like those around him.

I understand why the writers did this as they are ignorant and the series was never meant to be about Loki or about uplifting him, but to have “fans” accept this… Loki, I’m sorry they couldn’t love you for who you were. I know he’s not real, but it makes me emotional that the characters around him didn’t accept him for who he was, nor do his “fans.”

Ignorant “fan” talk aside, the writers in the first place didn’t understand that one of the reasons we love Loki is because he wasn’t loved for who he is. No one who truly loved him, wanted him to change and conform to other’s ideals. I understand that Loki needed to be dumbed down and stripped of everything that made him himself in order for the series to work, but no one wanted this.

To make the god of mischief, someone who’s chaotic in nature, conform to order… ooh, it is so irritating.

And this is one of the reasons I dislike the motives behind the costuming in the series. It’s not because I hate Tom Hiddleston and don’t respect his choices, or because the costuming is ugly (it is, but that’s not what I’m here to talk about), it’s because I hate what these choices represent. I hate the fact that people feel that they need to change every aspect of who they are in order to be loved, when there is always someone who will love you for who you are. I hate that it’s encouraged, and seen as acceptance when it’s nothing of the sort.

‘The new costuming shows humility’, as if Loki was ever allowed to be anything but humbled in the first place. As if he were allowed to be above anyone in the first place. As if he was able to be celebrated in the first place. Those “bad” traits, were never accepted. They don’t realize that just because Loki was the villain of the Avengers, it doesn’t mean he walked out successfully.

He was humbled just like in every movie he’s been in. Whether that’s him being rejected by Odin, disrespected by The Warrior’s Three + Sif, humbled by Thor ‘Know your place, brother’, tortured by Thanos, defeated by The Avengers, left to rot in a cell in the dungeons of the Palace he grew up in and was raised as Royalty in, denied the ability to say goodbye to his own mother after her death, threatened by people who were once his friends… You know I can go on forever.

I don’t think there’s been a moment where Loki was allowed to feel better than anyone else without immediately being shut down, denied, humbled, dehumanized, or humiliated.

So for that all to happen to him about a thousand times more in a series that was meant to uplift him… it just sucks. ‘Healthy self-worth and self- love’ he was stripped of who he was and constantly belittled, and did not stick up for himself. He just accepted everything that was said about him, and he accepted the disrespect. I don’t see how that is him having healthy self worth. He was treated horribly by those around them and instead of attempting to stick up for himself like in the previous projects he’s been in, he just accepted it. As if he felt he deserved it. He has less self worth/self love than he’s ever had.

He never got uplifted or praised or accepted or anything besides gaining new physical abilities and a new title. He’s been given a position he’s never wanted, because Loki’s always sacrificing himself. He’s always sacrificing himself the better of other characters, and other MCU plot lines. It’s what the MCU does when they get bored, or need to start a new plot.

I don’t want to see Loki be humbled. He already has been in everything he’s been in. He’s already been humiliated and made the laughingstock. I want to see him uplifted. I want to see him proud of who he is. I want to see him accepted.

I want him to realize he can be happy, even if he doesn’t belong or fit in. He can be loved for who he is.

The series did nothing of the sort, and I don’t know how people can be so unaware of that. Or if they are aware of it, I don’t know how they can accept it.

It’s not even the bare minimum “I accept you despite your flaws” no, it’s “I sort of accept you now that you’ve sacrificed yourself for me and changed every aspect of who you are, but I still do not like you as a person and I still won’t give you even the most basic respect.”

I want better for him. Not more humbling that he accepts without any complaints.

Loki I’ll always love you for who you are

[brain-works]

this is certainly a take to have.

PSA TO ALL F1 FANS

TL;DR - spreading hate on the internet does nothing. other people will still like the driver you hate. other drivers will still like the driver you hate. if you sincerely do not like a driver, don’t engage with any content they’re involved in. it’s that easy.

first of all, claiming that Max Verstappen is the only one to ever say “simply lovely” is wrong. I know the post doesn’t make that direct claim, but it’s clearly implied since they think anyone else saying it means they’re mocking him. Lando’s been saying it for years.

secondly and more importantly: you don’t know the drivers. they don’t know you. you don’t know their relationships, their personalities, what they do in their free time. all you get is what’s broadcasted to you through the media or through their personal accounts (that are still heavily curated to keep with a certain brand image). I promise you, Max Verstappen does not care that deeply about Lando Norris saying the phrase ‘simply lovely’. I’m sure he’s far more concerned with the fact that his car was utter garbage this last race and that his WDC could come under question if this streak continues. it was not a disrespectful remark, it was not making fun of Max for losing. you are imposing your opinion on the situation as fact. is it a shame that he didn’t get to win his home race? sure, I guess, but he’s also the only guy that’s won it the last 3 times it was raced, so I think he’ll be okay.

you do not get to assign malice because it fits with your view of a driver as a person. this was not a malicious comment. a light dig? maybe. but guess what: Max Verstappen and Lando Norris are friends. offline, outside of the track. which means they know each other and can talk out any issues with each other whenever they see fit. see: Austria. and these are conversations that we as fans will never get to see because that’s none of our business.

I understand not liking a driver, I even understand being annoyed that a driver won a race you wanted someone else to win. but the fact that it’s always Lando catching flack for the most ridiculous things is frustrating. other drivers have said/done worse towards & about others on the grid. other drivers have said worse/crazier in the cooldown room. other drivers have had worse attitudes on track (are we forgetting Charles using his car as a weapon in an FP session earlier this year?). but they don’t get any attention for it because they’re not Lando.

also: TAG YOUR DRIVER HATE CORRECTLY. the only reason I found this take (and sorry op for using you as an example) is because it was under the Lando Norris tag, a tag I browse quite often if you couldn’t tell. if you don’t want to see people like me disagreeing with you, tag your posts correctly! don’t put the #lando norris tag, even though I’m sure it’s tempting. you don’t have to tag Lando at all, or if you’re really trying to reach for a tag, just use #anti lando / #anti x driver so that I don’t have to see it.

[wifegideonnav]

saw a post about the fandoms use of the word chussy and how violating and disrespectful it is and it really got me thinking. not going to name the op because I am absolutely not trying to argue with their take which is clearly fueled by very real anger and hurt, and I fully respect their opinion. so please understand that im not trying to start #discourse and anyone who does so on this post will be blocked (eta: please feel free to disagree with this post and let me know that you do/argue your point. by discourse I mean the annoying and pointless brand of internet arguing that we all know and hate). all that being said, here’s my take on the issue:

1. the post raised some excellent points about the desecration of the body and the implications of sexual assault that the nonconsensual alteration of gideons body carries. so first off: this is absolutely an important point and it’s something that needs to be taken into consideration. additionally, the oversexualization of butches is a huge problem and the use of the word chussy undoubtedly plays into this. all of these things must be acknowledged and respected.

2. my analysis of the joking nature the fandom has taken towards gideons chest wound is that this attitude is fueled by grief and discomfort/despair. muir tends to take her characters past their breaking points and explore how that impacts them, and that is a really hard thing to witness as a reader, especially when it’s a character as beloved as gideon, especially when the change from the first book to the third is so stark. imo, people simply don’t know how to handle these feelings, and funnel them into black humor. inappropriate? yeah, probably. but I think what’s crucial here is that this is a coping mechanism for very real feelings that are stirred up by these books. people aren’t being irreverent purely for the sake of it (though there’s definitely some of that too), they’re processing uncomfortable emotions stirred up by this - crucially - fictional character

3. arguably, this reaction was also brought on by muir herself. violence and sex are inextricably tied in this universe. harrow and ianthe have multiple sexually charged scenes that are explicitly violent - the scene where ianthe knifes harrows hand and obviously the bone arm scene. the dios apate scenes are laden with hatred, deception, and a desire to literally murder one of the participants. joli thinks nona and cam are being prostituted. palamedes’s love interest turns out to be murdered, and he tries to kill her killer in return. pyrrha has sex with a corpse. while the sexual aspect of it is never discussed, harrows conception is marked by genocide. even the excerpt of alecto that muir shared earlier this year combines a description of personal struggle and torment with explicit yonic imagery. this is all to say, the concept of gideons wound being partially sexual within the text is not far fetched at all. i would honestly be surprised if alecto doesn’t address this in some way, either in a joking way or a serious way (knowing muir, probably both). for all muir’s faux outrage over the term in the q&a earlier today (technically yesterday), she always knows exactly what she’s doing and dare I say more or less exactly how the fandom is going to react to things. im certain she anticipated that people would draw a connection between the wound and sexuality. now, muir intentionally planting this subtext does not negate any problematic aspects of said implication. but I think it’s important to note that it’s not purely a “fandom joking about serious topics” thing - it also falls on the writer

overall, I think it’s a very nuanced topic, as with pretty much everything pertaining to muirs work. bodily autonomy is a huge theme in tlt and there is a certain flavor of ignoring or defying muirs message in making a joke out of the bodily violation that gideon has suffered. however, again, i a) think the jokes stem from a place of understanding muirs intent and the discomfort that arises due to this and b) maintain that this is not a case of the fandom disrespecting a creators message but rather the fandom running with the context and tone of the source material. and finally, I want to emphasize that this is a fictional character, and while attitudes toward fiction 100% affect reality, I doubt that the people making these jokes would do so if they were aimed at a real person.

i fully invite conversation on this post and I would love to hear what you guys think, particularly butches (I am a lesbian who considers myself gnc but not masc/butch and i would never presume to speak for/over butches, especially on a topic so important). i don’t mean to be a killjoy, but after reading that post and reflecting I do think it’s important to explore the ramifications of these jokes before continuing to make them.

[romchat]

Your analysis of SOKP is amazing, can't wait for more. Also I haven't read the novel but lmfao I was under the impression that this was a love story between her and XW but I think I was sorely mistaken because how are we halfway through and she's in love with another man. I was all ready for my broken woman and even more broken man love each other enough to make up for everything because we don't get a lot of that but it seems it's going to be for him but not for her , the show is great nonetheless and I hope it stays that way until the end.

Thanks for the kind words, OP 🙏🏼

I haven’t read the novel either but I’ve been told it’s even more skewed towards Ning-er’s relationship with Zhang Zhe? So given the source material I think the drama has been doing an ok job at setting up her eventual shift towards Xie Wei because it’s clear he’s always been attracted to if not in love with her while she’s starting to clarify her own preconceptions about him and even sense his feelings.

And honestly I’m ok with the slow burn. Up until this point, Ning-er still remembers what happened in her first life and all the awful things that Xie Wei did. To me, she almost got too comfortable too fast given what she knows. It’s interesting how to a certain extent she must have always trusted Xie Wei in the original timeline because she believed he would honor her request to save Zhang Zhe after she died but outside of that we still haven’t seen flashbacks that would indicate she’d feel anything besides fear, disgust, or hate towards him. I’m enjoying the little nuggets of cute in the current timeline but as someone who LOVES angst I would have preferred seeing these two broken people rage at each other a little more before settling down as bantering partners in crime.

That said, I think the shift should happen soon. We’re going to get the rebel infiltration arc after Episode 20, which means Ning-er will not only have time to realize that she and Zhang Zhe might not be a good match but that she misses Xie Wei’s jawline and ruthless support. I’m also getting very bad in-law vibes from Zhang Zhe’s mom and we know how sensitive Ning-er is to maternal figures disrespecting her…

[lyerra]

ROOM OF SWORDS SPOILERS

just me ranting about webtoon's comment section because I want to exteriorize some stuff

The whole Roseberry situation is so so weird to me. Tbh when I started room of swords I didn't care much about the ships, I was there for the plot, but when strawbarrow was revealed to have been canon all along I was so happy for them

However a lot of people were displeased because they thought Gyrus would end up with Tori.

I think one of the comment sections that struck me the most was right as the episode ended with Tori kissing "Gyrus" (who was actually Kodya in Gyrus' body pretending to be him) and someone commented "imagine possessing your boyfriend's body only for some girl to kiss him" which was a pretty funny comment

some people responded however that if anything Kodya was Gyrus' ex because he had been in a relationship with BB!Gyrus but New Gyrus didn't know him the same way. Which WOULD have been a good argument to make if Gyrus hadn't been making puppy eyes at Kodya since S1...

tbh it's fine not to see it, I didn't see it either at first, but to say that Gyrus was CLEARLY attracted to Tori???????? when he never showed any sign of liking her as more than a friend?

I've read RoS many, many times both before and after it ended (been reading it from 2019 oh god it's been so long???) and all through S1 there are these small, small hints that Gyrus has a small crush on Kodya EVEN THOUGH he doesn't remember him. They were always meant to be together.

Tori does develop some feelings towards him, granted (we do learn that it's because he looks like her beloved but that's later, people couldn't have known back then), but that doesn't make Gyrus entitled to return them.

People shipping Roseberry shouldn't make the authors entitled to change THE ENTIRE PLOT simply because some people aren't happy with their story choices.

At that point there's been many hints that New Gyrus and Kodya are still attracted to one another and I'm just sad and confused that those people were in so much denial.

On the brighter side, the next episode really starts with Tori telling "Gyrus" that she knows he loves Kodya because she's seen him LITERALLY PINING SINCE DAY ONE. AND THAT SHES A LESBIAN.

case closed, right? Kodya and Gyrus are canon and still very much in love, and Tori herself is in love with another, yet unnamed woman.

well lo and behold: s2 finale's comment section!

we finally see Kodya and Gyrus sharing their first kiss onscreen, so someone in the comment section said something like "THEY FINALLY KISSED AAAAA OUR SHIP IS SAILING" which was also my reaction and a legit reaction to it??

and since there was A LOT of dislikes (over 1,6k I believe) the op edited to say something about homophobes and the backlash was even greater

and in the answers there was actually quite a lot of people being salty because their own ship didn't sail and

I mean idk

maybe I can't understand because my ship sailed and not theirs but what the hell

first of all homophobes exist. the authors commented that they had lost about 20% of their audience when they revealed that Gyrus and Kodya were canon, and they received a lot of hate online for it.

second of all as I said it's not about ships it's about the plot. strawbarrow was always endgame and the whole story, including the romance between Kodya and Gyrus and the important role it played on the story, been planned since over a year before RoS was published. this is not your story, if you're not happy about it go read or write some fix it fanfics (it's not so bad once you get used to it). but in terms of writing strawbarrow was so well executed, I feel like being mad just because of a ship is really disrespecting the authors' intentions.

third of all, it had been made painfully clear since A LONG TIME AGO that they wouldn't end up together. clinging onto that hope was really unnecessary. they shouldn't be mad anymore, it had been over for a while now and they should have made their peace. people complaining by the time of s2 finale were really just delusional.

fourth of all, the dislikes may not all be from homophobes but if they aren't then they're from jerks. it's not because you're unhappy that things didn't go your way that you have to hate on other people because they got what they wanted and not you. that's just being mean smh,, let people enjoy the things they like in peace

[dragonsdomain]

Let's not joke about hate crimes

I've seen a number of posts here on Tumblr joking about acts of violence against people whose opinions OP disagrees with. Often these posts are made towards Conservatives who misgender or otherwise disrespect LGBT people or characters.

These posts are made with the noble intention of protecting vulnerable individuals, but let me draw to your attention the fact that they use the exact same language as some radical Republicans use against gay or trans people. This is horrific behavior which we want to stop, which throughout history has been a gateway to discrimination and dehumanization. By pointing this same behavior back at them, we become hypocrites, perpetuating the cycle of hatred.

We want this world to be a better place. We want to spread love and understanding. We want to teach people how to act with understanding and kindness. We want to make Allies, not enemies. But before this world can be better we have to be better.

Let's not joke about hate crimes.

[footytea]

https://www.tumblr.com/footytea/748270655222513665/people-talk-about-jude-type-in-girls-a-lot-which-i

Here we go with you lot’s bullshit. I won’t go deep into this conversation, I will be disrespectful but please… y’all can stop trying to bait Black and POC women into your nonsense like they’re just mad at the possibility of him being with a white woman.

You lot will conveniently ignore racist white WAGS. Conveniently ignore Jude’s white fangirls on many social media platforms, who get mad and hurl microaggressions when his Black and POC fans express wanting him with a Black or mixed woman. Please 🙄😒

i've went in on this topic before, but i still keep getting people in my asks asking why black women get angry when they see a black man (in this case footballer) with a white woman. i'm gonna say it again, it's not anger or jealousy, it's a matter of racism and more specifically internalised racism

i don't expect non-poc people to get it, but it's important to understand that describing this as anger & hate towards white women is problematic

(this obviously isn't directed to you, but rather to the op and all the anons that have said something similar)

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[pinkprettycure]

ngl the way nonjewish gays feel so like, aggressively defensive of their god given right to use the pink triangle gives me the same vibe that yall give me with slur discourse where I really feel like yall just want your own Cool Thing. like i feel like a lot of yall do nawt actually have any connection to it otherwise? like, theres that you know overarching sense of sadness and trauma we all have toward our history but... its just, different. and its weird and disrespectful to tell jewish ppl who have a greater connection to that specific historical event tht they're being mean for not "letting" us use a triangle. (even tho in that post op didnt even say we couldnt just to be respectful like damn!!!)

like idkkkkk im black and gay nazis hate me too but the holocaust isnt My trauma yfm? I don't feel that pain the same way I feel toward like, slavery and segregation. which I actually have a deeper sadness toward despite being only half black, because my family has been directly impacted by it. things like I can only get so far into my lineage before it just,,, Stops giving me results. the furthest back I can get takes me to mississippi, which. Yeah. so.

[maccreadysbaby]

f!reader comforting soap after ghost gets critically wounded? I feel like he’d be kind of a mess if anything bad ever happened to ghost. keep ghost and soap platonic please

your request is my strong recommendation

THE FEELINGS POLICE™︎

Operation Medusa was a disaster.

It was supposed to be a simple sweep and retrieve mission. There weren’t supposed to be any casualties, no gunshots, not even the mention of enemy infiltration of the Cartel run Military Base. It was supposed to be secret. Quiet.

It was not.

The Cartel found out they were there in the middle of the mission. No one was ready.

Task Force 141 ended up scattering like ants. Everyone went a different direction and comms were failing. There were Cartel tailing every member of the 141. Only when Laswell and Shepherds Shadow Company stepped in did Y/n, Soap, Price, Gaz, and Ghost get a proper exfil to their home base.

Y/n was shoving through Shadow Company as she searched for any other member of her Task Force. She’d been taken to base as the only Spec Ops soldier in the vehicle — which likely meant the others were separated, too. She didn’t know the status of any teammate but herself, and that worried her.

Only when she reached the medbay did the fear in her veins begin to fade. She spotted Soap in a chair, being tended to by a quiet nurse. Gaz was across from him, pretty beat up, but alive with Price right by his side. The only one she didn’t see was Ghost.

“Jesus, that was bloody crazy,” She announced, walking towards the rest of her teammates. Their eyes snapped up to her.

“Thank God, Y/n. I was afraid we’d lost you,” Price stated with a heavy exhale of breath.

She shrugged. “Hearts still beating.”

“Didn’t know you had one of those, L.T.” Soap joked from her right. She turned toward him with a small smile. The nurse had finished up, and he was standing now.

“Hardly,” She replied. He snickered and leaned against the wall to his left. “Anyone hear from Ghost?”

“Everybody out of the way! Clear a path! Critical coming through!” Price practically jerked Y/n out of the way as a few medics flew through the door, pushing a stretcher ahead of them. It only took her a split second to realize who was on it.

“Ghost?” She whispered. Soap seemed to notice, too, because he was suddenly following them, shouting: “L.T.?!”

“He’s highly critical, sergeant, we don’t have time to stop,” One of the medics called.

“What the bloody hell happened to him?” He persisted. Y/n reached out and latched onto Soap’s shoulder as he passed.

“Watch your Ps and Qs, Sergeant. There isn’t much we can do for him now but let them do their job,” She stated. He didn’t seem to be having any of it, and instead, jerked his arm away.

“To hell with that! There’s got to be something-“

“Calm down,”

“-need to know what the bloody-“

“Sergeant,”

“-chan urrainn dha bàsachadh-“

“MacTavish, stop talking,” She snapped, glaring at him even though he was a bit taller than her. Soap silenced, his eyes moving from her face to the double doors the medics had just pushed Ghost through.

“Go to hell,” He muttered, turning on his heel and rushing out of the medbay with no further words. Y/n followed him with her cold irises.

“He didn’t mean it, L.T.” Gaz shrugged from his spot on a stretcher. “This entire days been high stress.”

She pinched the bridge of her nose. “That doesn’t give him the right to disrespect his superiors.” She snapped. Disrespect was one of the quickest ways to get Y/n on your case. She hated disrespect of any kind, but unwarranted outbursts of disrespect like Soap had just performed always got under her skin way more than others.

Price scanned her, tapping his fingers together. “I wouldn’t leave him alone, Lieutenant. Not after the day we’ve had.”

She nodded. “Alright. Let me know if anything comes of Ghost.” She replied, then followed Soap’s trail out of the Medbay.

She went straight to their quarters, where she assumed he would be. His was at the very end of the hall across from her’s. Walking up to the metal door with a slight pause, she turned the handle and shoved it open without as much as a knock.

“Sergeant-“ She started, glancing at the figure in front of her. He was facing away, almost completely still, and all she could see was the back of his head. Rage seemed to bubble in her veins as she scanned his back. “Eyes on me, sergeant.”

He turned. The anger died inside of her chest when her cold eyes met his light ones. They were deep, and broken, and — something she’d never expected to see — pooling with crystal clear tears. The lecture on disrespect she’d been formulating grounded to an immediate halt. She paused, utterly wordless. She’d expected a fight, for them to bite and snap at each other until she slammed the door and apologized tomorrow. But she didn’t expect for him to look at her like that. Like he was wounded.

Y/n was conflicted. She had a reputation for being harsh and producing the best soldiers. Whenever they bit at her, she bit back twice as hard. Whenever they got emotional, or tired, or just drained, she pushed them harder, told them to suck it up and be a soldier. But for some reason, with Soap MacTavish, every single one liner she knew about not being an emotional baby seemed to slip out of her mind without a trace. All she could seem to think about was the day they’d had, was the fact that they’d all been pushed to their absolute limit, was the fact that Soap’s best friend was critical and he had no idea how bad it was. Was the fact that Soap’s outburst was completely and utterly… justifiable.

She only glanced up from the floor when he sat down on the cot behind him, placing his head in his hands. She didn’t skip a beat in speaking, only she softened her voice and features. “On your feet, sergeant.”

Soap immediately stood again, brushing lightly at the small tears that had trickled from his eyes down his face. He failed to meet her eye and kept looking off to the side, as if it would make the tears stop.

“I’m sorry, L.T.” He whispered, irises trailing down to the floor. He was rubbing at his eyes almost vigorously now, trying desperately to stop crying. She knew it was because of her. Because she was the feelings police, as Gaz had called her once. Did they really feel like they had to hide them around her?

Y/n turned and shut the door softly. He glanced at her in confusion, before it dawned on him. He was about to get the chewing out of a lifetime.

But instead of yelling, she reached out and grabbed onto the straps of his vest, pulling him straight into her. Her arms seemed to snap perfectly into place around his neck. “I know you are, sergeant.”

For a few moments, Soap was frozen. Y/n wasn’t one for feelings, or comfort, she didn’t even like to talk about emotional things that happened in the past. But this was different. She’d seen many teary eyed soldiers before. Hundreds. But somehow, the teary eyes of her favorite sergeant pierced straight into her cold heart and brought out things she hadn’t felt in years.

After those few moments, she felt him relax, his arms looping carefully around her waist. His breathing was growing a bit heavier every second, like he was suppressing all of the tears that threatened to flow. She’d known that Soap was an emotional since the first time she met him. He was passionate. Driven. And she, of all people, knew how the passion and drive turned sour in seconds. How it could send someone spiraling if they had no one to help them. That was why she went cold, turned into the hardcore Lieutenant that taught soldiers to be emotionless.

She decided she didn’t want Soap to be like her. She wanted to be the person she didn’t have to help her through the rough patches. For him.

She put a hand on the back of his head. “Let it out, MacTavish. It’s okay.” It came out as more of an order than she meant for it to, but comforting wasn’t really her forte. She didn’t really even know what she was saying. It seemed to work, though, because she felt his head drop onto her shoulder, and — although he was silent — she knew he was crying. She could tell by the way his body was shaking in her embrace.

She just stood there, unmoved for what seemed like hours, whispering quietly ‘it’s okay’ or ‘I know’ every now and then. He kept moving slightly. Rocking back and forth, or adjusting his head, or balling up the back of her shirt in his hands. It was evident he’d been keeping this stuff at bay for a while now, and it hurt her to think she’d been treating him like all of her other soldiers when what he really needed was someone to hold him.

“MacTavish,” She muttered, moving her hands onto his shoulders. When he didn’t move, she continued: “Soap.”

He lifted his head up, scanning her with red-eyes, hiccuping quietly like a child. Her heart seemed to shatter at the sight of it — why was he able to do this to her?

“I’m sorry,” She muttered. “I’ve not been here for you like I should’ve, and I realize that now. But I promise, from here on out, for as long as we serve together, I will be. No soldier should ever feel like they have to hide this.”

He didn’t reply. He just looked down at the floor and leaned forward, his head resting right back on her shoulder where it was. She put her arms around him again.

He forgave her.

[whatever-you-can-give-me]

Genuine question: why does disagreeing (without being all ‘u r wrong’, but simply just saying ‘cool! Here is my take on this’) with how others see a character get you immediately labled a ‘transphobe’? Or just labled as anything really. Like. Fandom space is for having fun, fandom space is a place of many different & wonderful headcanons & new ways of seeing things! Yet ‘headcanon’ is still not ‘canon’, and can be disagreed with. Hell, you can very well disagree with some of the stuff canon does! It doesn’t make it less canon of course, it just makes your experience with it more palatable to you.

So when a person says ‘here is my blorbo! I imagine him as trans and like viewing related content!’ and you say ‘awesome take, i bet there are a lot of interesting things you can do with this if you explore this more! I personally like thinking of this character & looking at content of him as biologically male, as described in canon!’ shouldn’t the answer be ‘wow! Two cakes! So cool!’ instead of ‘u r just a bigoted transphobe, the only right way to see him is as [insert specific gender identity] or literally as anything BUT what u see him as, because canon mentioned these select things that pertain to said character taking on masculine and feminine traits specifically from a narrative standpoint’ ??

I’m seriously just so lost. Just because someone doesn’t like seeing a certain character a certain way, (without disrespecting other interpretations,) it suddenly catapults them into being an awful person??? huh??

Of course it also works the other way, and with many other things, which is just as weird, which is exactly the point of my question here.. bros, the world... 💔 (m so sorry this is so long ong. i tend to ramble. pls don't answer if u don't have the time, have a good one <3)

oh man this is. first of all i'm not sure if this is in reference to some specific post or tag or if it's just because i've been very opinionated recently. but i do love to talk, so you're in luck.

also i'm not. sure if this is bait? i'm going to answer under the assumption that it isn't because it's. honestly a pretty good summary of a very real issue not with fandom exclusively but more so the internet as a whole. if anyone else has gotten this exact ask copy-pasted in their askbox let me know in the replies. (sorry if this is 100% genuine op, there's just a Lot Of Bait on this topic going around at all times forever and it's. june. so.)

objective disclaimer: don't. insult or accuse people of things. because of the art they make?? especially not fanwork for free for fun??? have you seen the state of the world right now? Now Is Not The Time To Be Arguing About Trans Headcanons. i'm answering this because i have a lot of thoughts on the nature of fandom, not because i think knee-jerk anger at anyone is helpful right now. if you're big mad, write to your senators or donate to the trevor project.

anyway.

basically: it's twitter's fault. [not just twitter, but twitter is The example of this] the algorithms of most websites, especially social media websites, prioritize arguments and things that are generally clickbaity because if you're spending a lot of time arguing, you have your eyeballs pointed at the site for longer and therefore you see more ads and therefore the advertisers and therefore the app makes more money. therefore the kinds of "you're disagreeing me therefore you must be bigoted against my opinions" kind of kneejerk discourse gets a lot of clicks and very mainstreamed. this is an issue the entire internet has, and also politics. it's twitter's fault. i hate it here.

in the specific circumstance you're describing. it's a few things, a lot of it being. gestures at the current state of the world. there's a lot of genuine anger towards genuine injustice boiling inside of a lot of people, and it's getting thrown at the nearest target because systematic change is difficult and slow, and sometimes it feels good to give someone a hard time for a tiny microcosm of something you're angry about because you can't wrestle god or throw a brick at a politician.

a lot of us in fandom are queer and scared. it doesn't justify hurting other queer people over different interpretations of a media property, but that is often why it happens. can't stop current events? yell at someone you feel is putting art in the world that Isn't Queer Enough (don't fucking do that, yall. there is room in the world for a lot of art. and just because it's not Visibly Queer or Queer In The Way You Are doesn't make it less valid as art. certainly don't accuse people of bigotries about it.) or that they feel like their space is being encroached upon by an outsider (no one has to tell you their list of marginalized identities to have their art allowed past the threshold of Queer Enough! don't fucking do that either, yall! you sound like cops!)

there's also the fact that people tend to put themselves in their art and interpretations. so seeing "i don't view this character this way" can feel like "i don't think You are valid". it's important to recognize when you're taking something Personally when it Isn't Personal. you're allowed to have your Big Feelings about particular art or interpretations. god knows i do! but the artist probably has Big Feelings about their art too, and while you may not understand them, that should be respected.

and this "seeing yourself (or not seeing yourself and it hurts) in art" goes both ways. a lot of the same body types often gets headcanoned as trans, because it's a very easy in for Baby's First Trans Headcanon, and as far as human sexual dimorphism goes, there are some patterns. but, say, what if a skinny, short, baby-faced cis man wants to see art of babyfaced cis men, without feeling within the queer community the kind of scrutiny he experiences outside of it, the assumption that his masculinity must be different, that obviously someone who looks like that is a trans man. what if a six foot tall cis woman sees the way that big, tall women in media are so often headcanoned as trans, more often than shorter, thinner women, and feels othered by it? wanting to represent themselves in art does not become somehow less valid because of their gender identities. that's ludicrous.

but people are angry and scared, and people put themselves in their art, and people get angry when they feel like their space is being encroached on, and they lash out. it's not fair, and i hate how common it's become, but i see how it happened.

honestly, i've thought about this specific issue a lot, so thank you for possibly-baiting me, anon. this is such a. it's such a bubble issue, but it's a microcosm of a very widespread problem of outrage merchants and Doing Things Correctly and What Is Allowed To Be Queer.

it's all allowed. all of it. even the stuff you hate. even the stuff that's Too CisHet. there are so many bigger problems than fanwork right now.

[follivora]

idk if you were around during esc but they were so disrespectful toward vesna on social media. like that famous ukrainian twitter account, eurovanya. he went so far as to dm them asking them to kick olesya out of the band. the girls were really polite with the answer they gave him but that asshole was like 'they picked a side' and started his hate campaign through the season 🤬

oh and i found the tweet https://twitter.com/fcknnonentity/status/1710207511205138677 their fucking answer when op explained what the hat means it's like i know it's not about russia but still going to put it out there without context so more ukrainians will hate him. fuck them!

oh yeah I’ve been around and I remember people just like bullying them for it and also for the message of the song, but like slav sisterhood HERE and in Russia are two completely different things and idk like we shouldn’t even have to defend ourselves, like fucking hell im allowed to have friends from all countries as long as their heart is in the right place

so like again, it’s just probably few ukranian fans just fucking making seem all Ukrainians like that and I hate that, because they’ve been through so much and it’s the last thing they need is to be a part of some petty drama

[demonsfate]

man, i love both jinxiao and jinhwoa and i've been in fandoms too long to engage in drama nowadays, but tbh it's amazing how people read/watch things with their ass because how do you say that it was Jin and not Dj (literally the demon inside him) the one who beat Hwoarang??? also some fans are very weird and annoying about the kazjun ship too like you said, idk like sometimes people have the worse takes ever and you just.. have to sigh and move on🚶‍♂️

i love them both! i believe i pointed out before that both are solid ships because both have wonderful dynamics with each other that fits well. i'd be happy if either one became canon, and either one would make sense. i try not to engage in drama, but gosh darn twitter is a hell site that just SHOWS you posts frm ppl you don't follow. so it's easier to get into arguments. i already had an argument with that person before. and i ALMOST got into another one bc i WANTED to tell them to "grow up" and point out that, yeah, DJ is the one that did that to hwoarang. not jin. ALSO LIKE. CANONICALLY. hwoarang DOES not even VIEW jin and dj as the same person!

so this definitely means hwoarang doesn't even blame jin for what DJ did to him in tk5, because he doesn't consider them to be the same. i wish the rest of the fanbase can think like hwoarang does!

yeah - they were also kazjun fans. which the op, as i said, made a post something along the lines of jun telling paul his consumption of hamburgers is unhealthy, then paul replying "you know what else is unhealthy? that relationship you have with kaz." and then a few annoying shippers freaked out about it and called it "pathetic," and "disrespectful to the characters" and all kinds of stuff. like i love the kazjun ship, i love the OVA because it explores what it could be. but holy shiiiit those fans need to stop being annoying about it.

LIKE they tried to say, "you can't deny the strong bond kaz and jun had!" and it's like WHAT STRONG BOND???? I'M SORRY. BUT CANONICALLY - KAZ HAD NEVER EVEN BEEN SEEN WITH JUN ON SCREEN, AND THE ONLY THING HE EVER SAID ABOUT HER, IIRC, WAS IN TK6 WHEN HE SIMPLY CALLED HER "MYSTERIOUS." jun had never spoke about him, either! HELL, in TAG 2 - WHERE WE COULD'VE HAD MORE DEVELOPMENT AMONGST THEM - kaz's ending didn't involve jun (not rly - it involved unknown, but NOT in a romantic way) and jun's ending didn't involve kaz. the only time we saw them on screen together IN A GAME, was in tag 1. devil's ending. again. i love the ship. but to act like it's some GREAT LOVE STORY ABOUT TWO PEOPLE WHO PASSIONATELY LOVED EACH OTHER TO THE VERY END AND ANYONE WHO SAYS OTHERWISE IS WRONG that's just... incorrect. we BARELY know their relationship. for all we know, it was just a one night stand! or they never had love for each other, but "fate" pulled them together to make jin. like. WE DON'T KNOW YET BECAUSE THEY WON'T TELL US. and the OVA can't be used as proof, because then you can use the 2010 movie as proof that jun didn't love kaz, but instead loved fucking steve.

you're right! i need to stop using twitter. i keep telling myself i'll stop! but yet - i always go to it when i'm bored and then sometimes i see ppl. it just annoys me that they have to be HATEFUL toward other people. ship what you want (as long as it's not fucking weird as i said - not talking proshipper stuff) but don't harass ppl for their ships.

[memoriescut]

i wanted to give this a proper title but really it's just an addendum to my pudding & sanji as frenemies propaganda lmao

i'm gonna skip the wci arc as i already talked about it, just as a general note in my canon pudding erases a whole lot memories of her from sanji's mind. while she's affectionate toward him, she has no romantic feelings. her crying in the hallway happens because by that point she's quite literally the only traitor left on the island - she can't escape because bm needs her for her powers but also knows the woman won't be so kind about the disrespect

technically they're still married. it doesn't matter as it's not like they'll get together at any point but since divorce as an institution doesn't exist, there is this loose end. pudding will never mention it as she believes it's not relevant to her life choices. doesn't want to be referred as vinsmoke or black leg for that matter, mention those names to her and she will stare blankly pretending not to know who that is. she will however take a page from sanji's book and give herself a brand new last name at some point after finding the one piece

i know fandom loves to pit women against each other but i think pudding would lowkey push nami into pursuing sanji eventually. in her mind they seem good for each other in a way that doesn't feel like trauma bonding, you know. as a matter of fact i think pudding and nami would be good friends and she'd be someone pud trusts during her time with the SH

pudding has the habit to be in places she shouldn't be, except that nothing of what she does is random and it's her fatal flaw. she crosses paths with the SH plenty of times after finding the one piece, mostly because they always get in trouble and she's traveling around following the voices. does she keep tabs on them? possibly. she considers them allies, so in most cases she will lend an helpful hand and then dip before they can get all mushy on her

on that note... i headcanon that while no romantic feelings are involved due to pudding making sure all those memories are cut and hidden away, throughout the years she and sanji meet up to have ONE (1) dinner to catch up and then everyone is on their own way. it probably happens once a year, they cook things, share and swap recipes, stuff like this. pudding will never talk too much about her business - she might be reformed but a part of her will always dabble in the darkness as it's part of the balance of all things. she will however give him leads about treasures she's heard of. [ when i think of them i imagine the song bells in santa fe, ngl ]

speaking of memories, pudding still has the film from sanji's memories. whether she gives it back or not eventually is up to plotting, but generally speaking i think she'd rather not for the fact that then they'd have to talk about... everything, which is not really something she wants to do. while she hasn't used memo memo on him since then, she can hear him loud and clear through her third eye powers and absolutely hates it. she probably told him too!

if wci / final arc pudding is more akin to alice in terms of character development, post op pudding is lowkey the cheshire cat. the more years pass the more different she looks. it's a good type of change even though it basically makes her look like an hermit most of the time. on a good day she might be sentimental enough to share some wisdom with him on whatever occasion they cross paths. she loves to speak to him in riddles just to mess around and that's really the only sign of her teen self left

post op pudding has a vivre card, and it looks like a queen of hearts card from any deck. she's given sanji a piece of it mostly because "you can never know" but also told him to not pester her, so you see where she stands. she is however always available through den den mushi for serious talks or mildly tough advices

at some point pudding has written a children's book called tales from the all blue which are basically a collection of stories she's heard from sea creatures. at the very first page there's a dedication that says may our dreams carry us throughout the darkest times. this is probably the most openly affectionate she's been toward him