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squidflavoredsoup · 2 months ago
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mama n her babies
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bastardlybonkers · 7 months ago
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i feel like not enough ppl are factoring in the cultural clash between laios and shuro and the many micro agressions shuro faced while being in their group. literally the name 'shuro' in itself is one
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his name is toshiro 😭 lets also not forget that he has his own communication issues, in the opposite way that laios does- thats literally a factor in their argument, that his envy for laios's ability to express himself sincerely manifested as part of his distaste for him.
ig all this to say like, was their fight heart wrenching, especially when reading laios as autistic? absolutely. anybody whos ever been in laios's position knows how much it hurts to realize someone you thought was your friend doesnt actually like having you around, especially when they didnt tell you and you had no way of knowing due to not understanding their cues. but im begging yall to step back and see the nuance of this situation cause im gonna be real a lot of you are kinda just brushing over it acting like everything is toshiros fault and that hes a terrible person when in reality hes an average guy who really, really clashed with laios and it led to a very long misunderstanding due to their supremely opposite methods of communication. even laios and toshiro, after letting everything out in their fight, were able to come to an understanding and start a foundation for an actual friendship built on better communication
ok yknow what Edit: i shouldve made it even more explicit at the end of this post, i hadnt thought i would need to since i started the post with this, but i think a few too many people are missing my point so i just wanna clarify. i shouldnt have said 'really clashed' and left it at that because yeah they did, but it wasnt just their opposite methods of communication, it is also very much that toshiro was experiencing microaggressions via laios. it may have been unintentional on laios's part, but it still happened and wore him down, made it harder for him to communicate on top of both the more subtle social cues that he was raised with and his own communication difficulties. i also want to say that the fandom reaction to toshiro and the complete ignorance of this point is also racist tbh or at the very least ignorant. i understand that the anime did not cover this panel, and neither did the manga, as this was an omake, but im gonna be real with you guys. there are enough context clues within the story to clue you into this. if you didnt pick up on it thats ok, but i think this is a good lesson in picking up subtext in the stories that youre watching and/or reading. kui shouldnt have to explicitly say 'by the way laios was racist to toshiro' for this point to be understood, and at the very least, when the author portrays a character in a sympathetic light (as kui clearly does) it should make you question Why they are doing so and what makes them sympathetic, rather than youre immediate and only reaction to be 'well i hated what this guy did/said so i hate them and they suck'. idk exactly how to finish this, just. idk. question your biases and gut reactions to things you see in media and stories, and think about whether or not theres subtext that youre missing.
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cangrellesteponme · 8 months ago
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widebruh · 7 months ago
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sevilynne · 4 months ago
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"Snape was just petty."
Ahh... Yes... Years of tormenting, getting SA'd infront of the whole school, and almost getting killed is just being petty... SUREE...
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kataraavatara · 7 months ago
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it’s so jarring reading acotar and acomaf feyre talking about how she hates propriety she hates being expected to birth heirs she hates caring about what other people think. and rhysand tells her he’s so much different than tamlin, he’s a dreamer assuring her that with him she won’t have to do any of those awful things hard cut to acosf feyre pregnant at twenty literally threatening to banish her sister because Nesta embarrassed her. And who was the one who humiliated Feyre by reading the bill in front of everyone. oh that’s right.
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chamerionwrites · 2 months ago
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One of the more fascinating examples of fandom’s faves-based morality I’ve personally encountered recently was the number of people in the Mon Mothma tag who were absolutely BURNING with righteous fury at her 13-year-old daughter in Andor, when the worst things we have actually seen said character do are (1) be kind of a little shit to her mom (again, she’s thirteen) and (2) fall victim to a space tradwife cult. You know, because she’s thirteen. And has a pretty self-evidently lonely and unpleasant home life. And lives directly in the rotten beating ideological heart of space fascism.
The number of people vocally wishing punishment on a fictional tween was WILD. I unfollowed that tag after ~48 hours lol
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crippling-pages · 3 months ago
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Hey so I was reading the caption in Fitz's new portrait on Shannon's insta, and I just want to quote something that she (well, Shannon's assiast) said.
"(and Team Keefe, PLEASE Keep your comments kind. Remember: not only does Sophie care deeply about this boy, but he's also Keefe's best friend. No one would want any arguing.)"
Now I'm wondering how Shannon thinks about all the Fitz Haters. I know on tumblr its not a problem, but on a bunch of other platforms, it 100% is.
I hate how they have to point this out though; and some of the comments are still super rude and mean.
Spread the message about this, because Shannon and her team shouldn't have to ask the fans to be nice to Fitz.
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kass-of-the-midlands · 6 months ago
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We gloss over Elia being bedridden for six months, half a year after birthing Rhaenys far, far too easily imo. Rhaegar was actually fucking diabolical for having sex with her again, let alone Elia giving birth just a year after this
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jesse-pinko · 2 months ago
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Mabel wishing summer could last forever so they didn’t have to grow up vs Stan spending his entire life trying to get back his childhood bc it was the only time in his whole life he was happy until the kids came along… seeing what it did to him no wonder she didn’t want to grow up :(
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spop-romanticizes-abuse · 3 months ago
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stans when aang and steven don’t kill the genocidal war criminals they’re fighting against: omg they’re so incompetent! these shows are telling us to side with the villains!! i hate these literal kids who made the best choice they could make under difficult circumstances 😡🤢
stans when adora not only spares a genocidal war criminal but also starts dating them: love wins! spop is such a beautiful story of acceptance and forgiveness. everyone deserves a second chance, even someone who willingly tried to end all space and time <3
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mustbolt · 8 months ago
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KNOW THY ENEMY, katherine + elena.
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extremely-judgemental · 3 months ago
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After reading the books it's obvious SJM doesn't give much thought into relationship dynamics and shifts. She often goes with the most obvious and stereotypical reactions. Now that being said, I don't think SJM even tried to make Elain manipulative and self-serving. Her betrayal was wholly to confirm Feyre and Rhysand's decision to imprison Nesta instead.
Both Feyre and Nesta resist the idea of being confined. Both refuse to take orders from someone. Both are cruel with their words and actions to the ones who choose to imprison them. But one is justified over the other. The distinguishing factor between the imprisonment of Feyre and Nesta is the support from other characters.
When Tamlin locks Feyre up in their mansion, every one is against him. His best friend Lucien, his loyal servant Alis, his sentries—all of them condemn his outrage and choice. Even before when he orders her to stay inside and not leave alone, that reasonable request is also seen as an extreme measure by all of them. Lucien stands by Tamlin in those instances but expresses disdain towards his friend. Ultimately all of them comply only because Tamlin is their HL but it’s evident none of them truly support his decision. Everyone is in favour of Feyre. Tamlin himself expresses his actions are wrong but willing to do the unthinkable for her sake.
But in Nesta’s case, no one pities her or advocates for her. On top of having no tangible cause to imprison her, they all unanimously agree Nesta should be kept away from the city and people. Rhysand and Amren come up with the plan to trap her. Cassian is sycophant. We know Morrigan is gladly in favour of throwing her in Hewn City like Amren. Azriel doesn’t exactly have a say and even then, not sure he would have disagreed considering he didn’t have problem playing a chaperone. Feyre is on Rhysand’s side, no matter how much she asks him to back off, she still gives in to his whims.
The only tipping point against Nesta is Elain. Though her opinions barely hold any stand here, she’s the proclaimed angel in the series. Making her support her sister in all this would imply there’s some truth to Nesta’s defiance and the IC(read Feyre) were just cruel. Every time Nesta fights, there would be cause to doubt if she’s reasonable, from refusing to train, to search for the trove, to seduce Eris, to revealing truth about Feyre’s pregnancy. But now all of it is just wrong because everything Nesta does is wrong and she is out of control. That’s why even her sisters are against her. If everyone is against her, they must have some justification to hate her and wanting to make her submit. And there’s nothing wrong with locking her down like a feral animal.
So yeah, SJM honestly doesn’t give two fucks about character here. She instead used Elain to validate Nesta’s imprisonment in the eyes of the readers.
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daeneryseastar · 7 months ago
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fiction mimics reality in the sense that mary i is remembered as ‘bloody mary’ despite having only executed 300+ people during her reign as opposed to her father who executed 50,000+ people during his. cut to rhaenyra who is remembered as ‘maegor with teats’ because she raised taxes after tyland lannister hid the royal treasury right before she retook king’s landing; all while her half-brother aemond was complicit in massacring the riverlands and the wiping out of house strong, along with her *other* half-brother daeron being liable for the atrocities that are bitterbridge/both battles of tumbleton. funny how that works.
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hecksupremechips · 1 year ago
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Honestly shoutout to Steven Universe for the representation of malachite and abusive relationships because it holds up really well and is still like one of the only abuse narratives I’ve seen that portrays how like. Abusive relationships aren’t as simple as “evil abusive person was constantly Mean and Bad to nice victim” like. Lapis is a realistic victim. She refused to leave the relationship because she longed to have connection with someone and she liked feeling as though she could have control for once, even though she really didn’t. She wasn’t nice and innocent, she felt anger and resentment and liked taking it out on Jasper. And despite how horrible it was, she deeply misses Jasper because it was the longest and deepest relationship she’s ever had with anyone and she didn’t know how to function without it
But Lapis is still a victim and we’re meant to care for her and understand where she comes from. She chose to stay with Jasper to keep others safe from her harm, and because she thought she herself deserved the abuse as a way of making up for everything bad she’s done. Jasper reminds Lapis over and over that she is a monster and that’s why they should be together, because Jasper is the only one who understands her. And when Lapis finally rejects their relationship, she mostly states it through what she herself felt and has done, saying that she didn’t like the person she became in that relationship and she never wants to feel like that ever again. It’s messy and complicated, just like how actual abuse is
Anyways yeah talk about a very good abuse narrative thanks steven universe
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alicentflorent · 4 months ago
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I have had to unfollow so many supposed Alicent fans because of their support for the bastardisation of her character. I didn't mind that they were Rhaenicent shippers but the way they're jumping through hoops to justify Alicent choosing Rhaenyra over her own family is making me want to pull my hair out!
What do they like about Alicent exactly? That she's a pathetic hypocrite who will happily side with the woman who slaughtered her grandson? Don't give me the whole "but Nyra didn't know!" bs. Did she punish Daemon? Did she show any remorse? Did she apologise for what happened? No, instead she demands Alicent accept the deaths of her sons to avenge Luke.
The fact of the matter is show!Alicent doesn't exist for Alicent/Team Green/HotD fans, she exists only for Rhaenicents/Rhaenyra stans who want to see everyone fall at the Dragon Queen's feet in worship of her.
You're absolutely right, she only exists for Rhaenicent and not even in a good way because Rhaenyra (understandably) looks down on her and Alicent's characterisation has to be thrown out and she has to make herself worthy of Rhaenyra by going against herself and what she fought for and they dress it up as her finally "doing something for herself" (which is what giving in to some kind of degradation kink?)
Realistically Alicent should have gone feral the moment Rhaenyra said "a son for a son" those were the words daemon used when instructing two assassins to kill one of the Hightower boys. Those are the words Heleana heard before being forced to point to her son who was then beheaded.
In the books Alicent says something like "how many must die for your thirst for vengeance?" why couldn't the show give her this line? why is Rhaenyra the only one allowed to want revenge? why is she allowed to call out alicent/the greens actions but Alicent isn't allowed to be angry and call out Rhaenyra/the blacks? Why is she going to Rhaenyra and debasing herself by confessing her sins and asking Rhaenyra to come with her? Her priority is helaena so why is she making a deal that isn't well thought out that will kill the father of Helaena's child and then going as far as to invite Rhaenyra knowing that Helaena's son was killed in Rhaenyra's name and Rhaenyra never apologised for it? She isn't liberating herself, she's betraying herself before becoming the queen in chains along with Helaena. As much as they defend it alicent choosing Helaena, this plan does not help Helaena.
Mind you, I've also had to unfollow or block certain "team green" stans who fell for the anti alicent agenda. Stans who will write meta's on how Alicent's sons have been done dirty by the writers while also hating on alicent for being so evil and horrible to her sons. Alicent has been rage bait for both sides of the fandom ever since 2x01, she has been humiliated sexually and politically for daring to choose the wrong side. I hate how she's been written but I can acknowledge that this is a clear attempt by the writers to punish alicent and reduce her to her relationship with Rhaenyra. I can also acknowledge that the most of team green have been treated similarly by the writers. In season one they made it clear that while she wasn't a good mother, she loved her kids fiercely and protected them and what have given her life for them. in season two we are constantly being hit over the head with the alicent is a hypocrite and a bad mother narrative and in almost every episode there is a scene of Alicent's bad mothering paralleling Rhae Rhee's good, loving mothering.
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