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Saiouma Week Day Three: AU
Title: A Battle Between Lovers, a Panic Over Partners
Summary: Kokichi and Shuichi have a Pokemon battle, because why not. Surely everything will go fine! ... Right?
Words: 1689
Note: Even though I know the days can be done late, I wanted to finish this one today because otherwise I would have just never finished it. Because of that, and my lack of inspiration when it came to this prompt, it's not really edited, especially near the end, so I think I kinda butchered Shuichi's sorta anxiety attack. Sorry about that. I hope you enjoy anyway.
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Shuichi wasn't sure what led to this battle. He wasn't very strong, and his Pokemon weren't the most experienced. But somehow, he'd ended up in a Pokemon battle with Kokichi Ouma, the Ultimate Shiny Hunter, with the threat of having to do any dare Kokichi came up with if he lost.
Of course, Shuichi knew that the same could be said for the other boy; if, by some miracle, Kokichi lost, he could dare Kokichi to do whatever he wanted – give up lying for a day, help Shuichi with his missing Pokemon cases, etcetera. But that probably wasn't going to happen, so as he stepped into place on the school's outside battlefield, Shuichi sighed, prepared himself, and pulled out a PokeBall.
"You ready?! You ready?!" Kokichi called from the other side of the field, already bouncing in excitement. Evanescence, Shuichi's emotional support Pokemon and one of his Mightyena, glanced up at him, and after bending down to Evanescence a quick pet, Shuichi straightened up and gave a nod that could be seen clearly by the other boy.
"Woohoo! Now, remember, Shuichi, only two Pokemon!" Kokichi shook his head as if he was prepared for Shuichi to cheat, but Shuichi just rolled his eyes and gripped his PokeBall tighter. They agreed upon that rule because of <i>Shuichi's</i> limitations in Pokemon, so it was pretty much impossible for him to cheat. Regardless...
"Prepare to lose, Shuichi! Three... two... one... Let's duel!"
The final part of that yell threw Shuichi off a bit, but after a minor stumble, Shuichi threw out his PokeBall to reveal Zen, his Kirlia. Zen hit the ground poised, dancing on the tips of its feet, while Kokichi's Lumineon swam through the air, following Zen as Zen leaped around.
<i>That's the Lumineon Kokichi got from Kaito,</i> Shuichi thought, eyes locked onto the water type Pokemon. <i>I wonder what kind of moves it has...?</i>
Well, no time left to think, because a second later Kokichi was pointing and shouting, "Water Pulse!"
Lumineon shot out a circle of water, and as Shuichi cried out, Zen moved to dodge. Zen didn't quite get out of the way, but they didn't get hit with the full force of the water, either, and stumbled back a bit, soaking wet. Shuichi took in a shaky breathe as he lowered his hands from where they had instinctively gone to clutch his shirt.
Right, okay, it was his turn. He could do this. "Zen, uh, use... Magical Leaf!"
Even through the barrage of leaves Zen shot at Lumineon, Shuichi could see Kokichi curse. Magical Leaf might be the only attack move Zen knew, but it was super-effective and never missed.
The move hit Lumineon dead on, and it cried out in pain. Kokichi's face twisted, and after a moment of hesitation where Lumineon was shaking its head and Shuichi and Zen were watching carefully, Kokichi brought out his PokeBall to recall Lumineon. "Lumineon, return!"
Lumineon disappeared in a red beam of light, and Zen shot an anxious glance at Shuichi. Shuichi did his best to smile and reassure his Pokemon, but evidently his own nervousness was showing, as Evanescence headbutted him to ground him in the present.
<i>Okay. Okay, I can do this. Bringing back Lumineon was a smart move, but what's Kokichi going to do now...?</i>
Kokichi, smirking by this time, threw out a fresh PokeBall, and evidently, the answer to that question was "send out a shiny Froslass."
"Laaass!" Froslass shook itself off, bursting out of its PokeBall in a glimmer of light and mist, and Shuichi had the random, illogical thought, <i>Ah, so this is how I die.</i>
A moment later, though, he was shaking that thought off, and ordering Zen to use Double Team with a hesitant shout.
"Lia!" Zen started bouncing around, leaping like a ballerina and making copies of itself whenever it landed. Kokichi's eyes followed Zen, but Shuichi doubted he knew which one was the real Zen by now – he sure as heck didn't.
And it seemed like Froslass didn't either, based on its frantic spinning in circles to try and keep an eye on all the Kirlia. Shuichi relaxed his breath.
<i>Maybe I can actually –</i>
"Use Blizzard! And follow it up with Hail!"
<i>... You've got to be kidding me...</i>
Froslass cheered as it raised its hands to the sky, summoning clouds and mist that covered the entire battlefield. "Fros, lass lass!"
The hail began to fall, and Shuichi sneezed as the temperature changed. His sneeze was nothing compared to the barrage Zen's clones were taking, though, as they disappeared one by one as hailstones struck them. Soon enough, Zen was the only Kirlia left in the arena, sheltering its head from the storm above. "Kirlia!"
"Ah! Zen!" Shuichi squinted to see through the mist; he could make out Zen, and Froslass, but from here, Kokichi was just a shape in the fog. Shuichi gritted his teeth. "Use Magical Leaf!"
"Kirl!" Kirlia sent out the attack, but Shuichi knew it wasn't very effective. There was a shout that Shuichi couldn't quite make out, and with a gust of wind and another round of hail, Zen fell to the ground.
Heart sinking, Shuichi dug in his bag for Zen's PokeBall. Holding it out with an arm as shaky as his voice, he called, "Zen, return!"
Zen disappeared in a flash of light just like how Lumineon had, and Shuichi took a moment to smile at the Pokemon currently inside the PokeBall before putting it away.
Kokichi shouted something else, probably a taunt that didn't make its way past the storm, but Shuichi just ignored it. <i>Okay, so I know I don't have any Pokemon that are as high a level as his Froslass... But I guess Crossbones would be the way to go? Certainly not Meatball, at the very least...</i> Shuichi reached for Crossbones's PokeBall... And hesitated.
<i>Wait, Froslass is a ghost type... And Lumineon is a water type... So based on the moves of my Pokemon, who I should really go for is –</i>
"HEY SHUICHI, YOU'RE NOT BAILING ON ME, ARE YOU, YOU MEANIE?!"
"Let's go, Boomer!"
"Emol, emolga!"
Emolga shot out into the storm, easily coasting on the winds of Froslass's Blizzard. Shuichi grinned across the field, and as he took a deep breath of the icy cold air, he knew by the way his heart soared he made a good choice.
Maybe this wouldn't be a guaranteed loss on his part after all.
"BOOMER, USE U-TURN!" Shuichi yelled out into the arena, loud enough so Kokichi could hear him – just like how Kokichi yelled out at Shuichi just a moment ago. Evanescence stood up next to Shuichi, and Shuichi knew if he hadn't been on-duty, he probably would have howled.
"Mol!" Boomer cut through the clouds, striking Froslass before the other Pokemon could react. Normally, this would be the part where Boomer returned to its PokeBall, but Shuichi didn't have anyone to switch out to.
The hail fell again, and although Shuichi winced as he heard Boomer's cry meaning it got hit, he didn't back down.
Beside him, Evanescence pressed its side to Shuichi's leg. Shuichi balled his hands into fists as he waited for Kokichi's next move.
"...ard!"
"Froslass!"
Froslass raised its arms again, and in a blast of wind, Boomer was sent flying. "Emol!"
"Boomer!" Just like that, Shuichi's determined mood vanished in the wind. He peered through the storm, trying to see what was happening, but wherever Boomer ended up, Shuichi couldn't see him.
Kokichi, though, apparently could, and after nodding away from Shuichi, Froslass dispelled the blizzard with a final arm wave, and Shuichi got to see the sight of Kokichi making his way over to him with a blank expression, fainted Boomer in his arms.
"Ah! Boomer!" Shuichi dashed out to Kokichi, Evanescence bounding beside him. Shuichi didn't know what to say, or think, but his mind was already yelling at him what ifs about Boomer being seriously hurt, and as Shuichi reached Kokichi he couldn't even do anything more than stare at Boomer.
<i>What if Boomer's injured what if Boomer doesn't get better what if Boomer hates you now what if –</i>
...
Evanescence tugged on his pant leg, and Shuichi realized he was hyperventilating.
Forcing himself to calm down and breathe, Shuichi blinked as he continued to stare at Boomer... Who Kokichi was currently administering a Potion to. Looking at him now, Shuichi could see he was fine, but Shuichi didn't dare ask to hold him, instead slowly sitting down so he could hug Evanescence.
A moment later, Kokichi joined him. Between the warmth of Evanescence and the tears starting to slip from his eyes, Shuichi realized this was the longest he'd ever heard Kokichi be quiet.
"Emol?"
Shuichi choked up, and as he turned to his side, Boomer jumped over to his shoulder and patted his cheek sympathetically. Behind Boomer, Kokichi was smiling softly, looking away like he wasn't sure how to help.
Shuichi reached out a hand to Kokichi, but froze before making contact. Kokichi blinked, but Shuichi didn't know whether he'd noticed or not.
Boomer climbed up his head and rested on his hat. Shuichi wasn't complaining.
"You knoow," Kokichi began, as he waved at Froslass, which Shuichi only just now realized he hadn't actually returned to its PokeBall, "maybe I'll save the dare for another time, so you can help me prank Kiibo. If he was here, then we could do it today, but alas," Kokichi sighed.
Shuichi knew that was as direct to an "are you okay?" as he was going to get from Kokichi, but he was okay with that. In fact... It was kinda nice.
So Shuichi smiled, turned, and buried his face into Mightyena fur.
Because maybe this battle didn't go that well, but at the end of the day, Shuichi knew he had both people and Pokemon who loved him.
"Eeemolga!"
#also posted on ao3#my fics#saiouma#saiouweek#oumasai#end meee#this took a lot out of me tbh#not even really happy with it#but if i leave it to tomorrow i'll just procrastinate and never edit or upload it#so y'all are getting the unedited version#no editing we die like the tired shippers we are#himiko cast original post#pokemon#au#fic#drv3#shuichi saihara#kokichi ouma#long post
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My take on JJBA characters’ sexuality (Part 1)
These headcanons are livng in my head rent free anyone feel free to disagree
Includes :Jojos, Jobros and jovillains from part 1 to 3
Part 2 here with part 4 to 5
Please enjoy.
TW: mentions of sex and male masturbation, swearing, not proofred we die like men
PART 1: PHANTOM BLOOD
Jonathan Joestar: Repressed Bisexual/Biromantic
Just. Yes. My man was born in the fucking 19th century what did you expect. Desperately tries to convince himself that he is very much heterosexual and that pussy is the only thing he likes. Unfortunately Dio exists. And Speedwagon. And maybe Blueford-
DIO Brando: Pansexual/Panromantic
I examine canon and elevate it to a higher plane. See: Pucci. Dio fucked this one through and thorough and he very much gives me nonbinary vibes. I’m also convinced his castle in part 1 was just a giant sex dungeon.
I raise you: DIO does not give a rat’s ass about gender he just wants to shag. He’s interested in ALL boobs. Inclusivity bitch.
Robert.O. Speedwagon: Straight
I won’t elaborate he’s just fucking straight man.
(A/N: after an enlightening discussion in the comments, I am requalifiying Speedwagon my boy as GAY AS FUCK. Apologies to Jonawagon shippers I did not see the light, but I repent. Keeping the initial headcanon as a memento, but here. Change and growth is real folks).
PART 2: BATTLE TENDENCY
Joseph Joestar: Bi-curious
Also works for oldseph. He’s actually bisexual but identifies himself as bicurious so we will respect my man’s labels. Slay. Joseph likes men and women and is unaware of the existence of other genders. Don’t worry he learns.
Caesar is def the one who made him realize that he might like men. Or maybe...one man....rest in rocks Ceasarino
Caesar Zeppeli: Male-leaning bisexual/homoromantic
We all know Caesar fucks hard. But if gay marriage was legal in 1940 you bet this man would have an italian husband named fucking Luigi or shit and twelve foster kids. He’ll eat pussy sure but the man course is always dick in Italy. He wanted that Joestarussy but rocks caught up to him :((
Suzie Q and Lisa-Lisa: lesbians
2 in 1 post because I make the rules. They like WOMEN and only got married bcs they’re either repressed (Suzie) or were really just bored (Lisa-Lisa). Anyways slay.
The Pillarmen: GAY
All three (4 if you count Santana but I forgot about him and am too lazy to re-edit the pic) love MEN. Kars is the king of pillar gays bcs seriously he massacred his entire race and only let men survive instead of perpetuating the species with pillarwomen. Hence he’s officially gay as FUCK and gay married with Esidisi.
PART 3: STARDUST CRUSADERS
Jotaro Kujo: aro/ace
Ik I ship Jotakak but in my personnal little brain Jotaro is AROACE. This man is immune to the matters of the flesh and generally puzzled by human interraction so I don’t expect him to be interested in romance ever. Wdym he has a wife and daughter? Compulsory heterosexuality!! He wanted a calm and quiet life after the fucking trauma-inducing nightmare that was part 3 and thought that settling down was the way to go but uh. Sorry man. Didn’t work out.
I HC him as sex-indifferent bcs well. I mean I do have to integrate Jolyne in my canon so there. But yeah he would enjoy sex I think but wouln’t ever initiate. He’d just go with the flow. Doesn’t mean he doesn’t jack off enough to break both wrists tho. He hides the sex-drive in his hat.
Noriaki Kakyoin: gay
Listen. Listen. I know I enjoy all the Kakyoin MILFhunter memes immensely but look at him. He’s a twink. He likes men. I will simply erase this moment with Holly from my mind.
He’s a power gay though (I’m SO tired of ppl hc-ing kakyoin as pissy-baby uwu soft weak boy nah my man breaks BACKS and spits in yo mouth). Anyways yes Kakyoin is a refined homosex enjoyer. Prefers the rainbow flag because it fits his vibe better than the blue one.
Jean-Pierre Polnareff: female-leaning bisexual biromantic
Polnareff is cursed with bisexuality but gets absolutely NO GAME I’m sorry but it’s facts to me. He gets NO BITCHES, absolutely ZERO PLAY. He may be a flirt but no one wants him (Except Muhhamad-). Likes women more but will not pass on the opportunity to flirt with a cute guy.
Muhammad Avdol: Demiromantic/demisexual gay
Muhammad does NOT hit me as the type to fall in love/feel sexual attraction out of the blue. He needs his time. Plus i don’t think he thinks about it all that often. Destiny will do the job yadayada. Only attracted to men though. Women work in ways too mysterious for him to handle. He would start to feel something after like. A year or two of knowing intimately the person (go Jean-Jean we believe in you-). This king will probably ask his tarot before making any moves tho (shhhh he just wants to be sure)
#caesar zeppeli#caejose#shitpost#jjba battle tendency#jjba phantom blood#joseph joestar#jonathan joestar#dio brando#headcanons#queer headcanons#lisa-lisa#Suzie Q#pillarmen#jotaro kujo#jotakak#noriaki kakyoin#jean-pierre polnareff#stardust crusaders#jjba#muhammad avdol#speedwagon jojo#avpol
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part 3, "Kid": How every character in The Old Guard (2020) dir. Gina Prince-Bythewood relates to the main character, Nile Freeman
Stop writing people calling Nile "kid" 2k4ever
Andy calls Nile a baby one time, minutes after first dreaming of her. Andy then calls Nile "kid" three times, all to her face, all in the first few hours of their acquaintance. Booker calls Nile "kid" once, on the porch outside the bar. That's it. The context for these lines is super interesting, and calling Nile "kid" in fic doesn’t make any sense without the original context.
When Andy, Joe, Nicky, and Booker wake up from first dreaming of Nile, Joe and Nicky immediately start sharing facts they noticed, and Joe starts sketching. Booker is in his feelings but he contributes a few things to the saying-facts-out-loud rally.
Andy is 100% in her feelings. She starts the conversation with "No, not another one." Then once the boys have gathered a bunch of facts and Booker says "I felt her die" Andy comes in with this:
Andy: [stares at nothing straight ahead, voice is remote, detached.] She’s a Marine. [Joe and Nicky look up together.] Combat. Or near combat duty. Afghanistan. [Shakes her head slowly, wearily.] It’s been over two hundred years. [Whispers, anguished, buries head in hands.] Why now?
Got it. Joe and Nicky are the competent soldiers, Booker is the semi-competent drunk, Andy is the boss. Andy is the fucking depressed boss. It's in this context that Andy, having analyzed the information her direct reports just gave her, made the determination that Nile is a Marine in Afghanistan, and let her team have a brief back-and-forth about whether to change their plan to go retrieve the new one before announcing the decision that is ultimately hers to make, refers to Nile as a baby.
Andy: Get to France. Use the Charlie safe house. I’ll meet you there. [Joe examines his sketch, blows pencil-dust off it. She stares at Booker.] Find Copley. [Joe tears out the page and hands her the sketch. Andy stares at it.] Jesus. She’s just a baby.
Andy's metric fuckton of I AM BEYOND DONE just leaps off the page/screen. Keep that existential exhaustion in mind as we see her early interactions with Nile.
Nile: [stands, panting, regards Andy suspiciously.] Who are you? Andy: I lead a group of immortals. An army, I guess. Soldiers. Fighters like you. [softer tone.] Look... [Andy steps toward her; Nile steps back.] You’ve got questions, kid. I get it. [tiny smile, small nod.] You want answers? Get back in the car.
Andy: [lightly] And I was the one who cut your throat. Right? [stares at Nile, who stares back, then looks away; she has no answer for that.] Listen, kid. You already believe in... [points upward, follows it with her eyes.] You should just keep following that illogic. [Pulls her jacket over her shoulders as a blanket, turns on her right side, back to Nile, lies on the pile of duffel-bags like a reclining chair.] You’re already on board with the supernatural. [Speaks with eyes already closed; it makes no difference to her.] If I were you, I’d get some sleep.
[Nile stands slowly, glaring at Andy, sets her body as she prepares to continue the fight.] Andy: You really want to do this, kid? [Andy’s eyes are bright, her expression relaxed but anticipating; she looks like she thinks this will be fun.]
Andy is looking at this retrieval mission as something that must be done, but quickly and with as little disruption as possible to her team's ongoing mission to find Copley and protect themselves from exposure. And then here comes Nile Freeman, competent as hell, taking no shit, questioning everything, stabbing her and escaping a moving vehicle and just fucking fighting her at every turn.
"Jfc kid will you just get in the goddamn car" feels pretty reasonable in that context, yeah? At least from Andy's perspective. From Nile's, you're fucking right you're gonna ask some goddamn questions before getting on a drug-smuggling plane with someone who just shot you in the head.
It's worth noting that Andy doesn't precisely say "jfc kid will you just get in the goddamn car" — she says "I need you to get back in the car please." She says "can you please not do that again" when Nile fucking stabs her. She's exhausted and frustrated and just trying to get through this and back to her main mission, and from what we see of her so far she's generally gruff as a person, but she's not an asshole, and she’s really showing Nile some respect here, all things considered. I mean, imagine being this polite when someone stabs you. This is a tired adult trying to get another tired adult on board with a sensible plan.
Andy: Argh! [Andy grabs Nile’s knife hand.] Fuck! [throws it violently aside, forcing Nile back a step. With the knife still in her, Andy sighs deeply and looks at Nile. Nile recovers her balance and stares that Andy is hardly reacting to having a knife in her.] Can you please [grabs the knife with left hand, yanks it out] not do that again? [throws the knife on the ground.]
Once they fight on the plane, Andy never calls her kid again. Andy is already starting to regain some of the energy her long life has worn away from her after just 10 minutes on screen with Nile. Andy went into this retrieval determined to be someone Nile can rely on, and that still stands, but by the time they’re in France she’s realizing she’ll come to be able to rely on Nile too. She introduces her to the boys as Nile and that's that.
The only other time we hear the word "kid" in the entire movie is near the end, outside the bar with Booker.
Nile: Yeah. [takes a breath.] Talked to Copley. Said he could fix it. Make it look like I was killed in action. [nods gently to herself] My family will mourn, but, uh... [tiny shrug, head-shake.] ...they’ll be able to move on. It’s just like what we did with my dad. [sighs. Turns to look out over the water. Voice wavers.] I just really want to hear my mom’s voice one more time. Booker: [looks down, pauses, turns to lean next to Nile.] You’re a good kid, Nile. [looks at her, speaks earnestly.] You’re gonna be great for the team.
Sébastien le Livre, whose greatest tragedy is that his children disbelieved and rejected his love for them, would be very moved by Nile's concern and love for her mother. "You're a good kid, Nile," in the sense that she's honoring her parent in a way he, a bereaved parent, appreciates.
There's also the fun shippy reading that he's preemptively friend-zoning her because there's about to be several lifetimes between him and spending any more time with this woman he was having an obvious "oh no she's hot" reaction to over dinner in Goussainville, but I, a feral BoN shipper, like the first reading even better.
But the point is, calling Nile "kid" is an element of the movie that says a lot about the characters using that word. When it gets repeated in fanfiction, it says something about the author.
If you're reading this and reflecting "oh shit I wrote the team calling Nile kid without thinking about it at all beneath the surface" I have a really cool suggestion for you: just edit it. Or at least consider not doing it again. We all make mistakes. We all run with things that we pick up in canon or see in other people's fic that seem funny and harmless, and once we think about those things more deeply we might find that actually it's kinda fucked up, or not what canon was trying to say, or fine on the surface but not fine if it becomes The One True Fanon. Having characters who are either white, men, or both call the adult protagonist who's a young Black woman "kid" all the time carries a weight to it. Please let's let that weight fall off Nile's fully-grown shoulders.
Next up, orders, suggestions, assistance, and other flavors of mentoring Nile and/or telling her what to do. Credit and appreciation to StarWatcher for transcribing the movie here on AO3, all my line quotes are pulled from there.
#nile freeman#andromache the scythian#yusuf al kaysani#nicolo di genova#sebastien le livre#book of nile#dirah discusses tog team dynamics#tog meta#tog#mine#userhayls
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hey!! holy shit i had no idea what bidarkling said about archie!! jesus fucking christ that's disgusting. thank you for reblogging. she's problematic on the best of days--but that was outright disgusting. also--i'm wondering if there are any malina networks/safe spaces to hangout? i really like them, but I'm afraid to come out to my followers as an Archie/Mal Stan. I hope this is ok to come to you with! I love your jace and clary blog too. <3333
I’m not on twitter so thankfully I didn’t have to deal with that but just seeing the screenshots and hearing about it spikes my anxiety through the roof. Like between this and the darklina’s thinking that in this day and age, especially with what’s going on with the hate towards asians right now, that because they don’t like a SHIP, they can not only be racist and bully the actors and their children. But they can call the ship MALARIA, like. I wish I was joking it is downright vulgar.
And honestly not one darklina can be like oh that’s just a small part of the fandom you can’t tar us all with that brush because like. Where are all the posts condemning this person and others? Where’s all the “no you don’t get to make up racist ship names” posts? I’ve seen people I respected LIKE THE DAMN TWEETS, by bidarkling, or like posts attacking people standing up to them.
I’ve seen people argue in a discord server, by invading the malina channel, that they have a right to do all this gross stuff to Archie because he’s not dark skinned enough. Archie Renaux is Desi. Y’all don’t get to be fucking racist shitbags, or excuse racism and laugh at it and like posts or tweets, and then act like not all Darklina’s are the same when I have seen literally NOT ONE, especially not one of the big ones, say shit against the stuff done to Archie. About the Malaria name etc. I’ve seen them like the posts and tweets tho!!!! The only person i’ve seen mention anything is a multishipper. Like.
We didn’t tar y’all. Y’all literally did that TO YOURSELVES. With outing how racist y’all are.
Not on the topic of Archie though. The LENGTHS some of those shippers will go to to woobify and be all uwu aleks my babyyy. Like the next person who even breathes that Genya deserved to be sexually assualted and the darkling shouldn’t be held accountable for that OR the other thing he does. I will fight. I don’t care, y’all can fuck off invalidating abuse survivors because you like the white guy playing him. I haven’t even been here lately because recovering, and I really come back to a message I am not posting glorifying what happened to her. This is the lengths y’all go to? THIS IS YOUR GOD HUH? THIS IS THE HILL YOU ALL WILL DIE ON? RACISM AND ABUSE APOLOGISM? Staying quiet and ignoring it is the same as encouraging it! But y’all know that lbr.
I swear to god I’ll never be able to enjoy ben barnes ever again.
Also to answer your question finally I got so sidetracked because this is the only ask imma answer bc they’re all in the same vein, but also to be like I’m the wrong person to ask because like. I’m of the opinion that if people give you shit over actors or characters you like. They’re assholes. They’re not your friends or even good people. Drop their asses. Like characters and people you like are so personal to you. And honestly? especially with all of this. Weed them out. Post about what you love and block anyone who tries to fuck with you over it.
I’m tired of people being like oh i like mal/archie but i would never say it in front of my followers~ like bruh. MY DUDE.
For people to follow though I do have suggestions!!! I’m also sure that there’s discords out there for malina/mal fans!
@malinasource ofc bc the source blog
@malyen0retsev @alinamal @alinastarksov @jessiemeili @thetracker
also anyone in this post here and the comments/tags oh this one too
I know I’m missing so many people i should be including rn but sick brain tired. But feel free to go through my blog for people i’ve interacted with or rb edits from (im so behind on my tracked tag too but sick) and you should find lots of lovely people to interact with!!!
Also ty!!!! That’s like my main otp of otp’s so every time it gets complimented i’m just seal clapping Good luck in your hunt for mal/archie friends! and I’m here if you need anything/wanna chat too!
#me: supposed to be recovering from minor surgery and not raising my blood pressure#also me: i will fight every darklina ON SIGHT#shadow and bone#Anonymous#Ask#Answered#malina
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Oh there’s more R/osegarden bullshit on Twitter. It’s going to be a NIGHTMARE I can tell already. So, let’s address this, shall we? ALL this drama is the result of miscommunication. I’ve been here long enough to specifically remember the writers saying that the age gap between Ruby and Oscar was only two years. Thus, in Volume 5, they would be 16 and 14, respectively. And then in Volume 6, the actors said that Ruby was now 17 while the dialogue still referred to Oscar as 14. THAT’S a bit of a potential problem. A 14 year old and a 17 year old dating DOES have inherent issues, yes. I understand the discomfort THERE. But I also remember the writers saying that it was just two years. So, I think this is the result of a miscommunication between the writers and actors, and the result is THIS whole mess. All this shouting over a miscommunication. Some days I really wish the writers would just step in and just outright SAY what the gap is, clarify it once and for all, cause I’m tired of this bullshit.
But most importantly, divorced from said bullshit, R/osegarden is just bland, heteronormative drivel. It’s just boring, uninspired fluff that only REALLY exists to the extent that it does due to heteronormativity and the occasional dash of spite due to all the bullshit (Cause frankly, I’m not convinced that many of the shippers would more than vaguely care if it wasn’t for this). Ignoring the accidental age gap issue I’d just find it completely ignorable, and without this bullshit I wouldn’t care one way or the other. It would simply pass me by. Like it used to. I miss those days. And of course, there’s the whole “Oscar slowly merging with a thousands year old man” thing in canon which would make ANY romance for Oscar awkward.
Honestly, the BEST thing we could do, on all “sides” here, is to just ignore it utterly. I know we’re not gonna, the shippers are already so invested, but ideally we’d all just let this boring ass ship and all the bullshit surrounding it die. Also, PLEASE don’t tag R/osegarden shippers in this. I’m leaving it UNtagged for a reason. I don’t want any of that bullshit, I just want to explain WHY this is happening from my perspective and attack heteronormativity a bit (EDIT: To be clear, from my perspective there’s no reason to think it could be canon were it not for that. It REALLY seems like the “it’ll be canon” folks are only convinced so because of, well. I mean seriously here. And to be clear, I’m not saying CRWBY‘s being heteronormative. I’m saying parts of the fandom are. Sorry, but that’s just how I see it. There’s really nothing going for it). And as for who to ACTUALLY ship Ruby with, well Weiss and Penny are RIGHT THERE. And, you know, to a lesser extent Blake, Jaune, Pyrrha, maybe Nora, possibly Emerald depending...
#R/WBY#Fandom Bullshit#(tho with legitimate concerns to an extent)#Ship Hate#(I guess? Technically)#READ BY BIO BY THE WAY THANKS AND GOODBYE IM SERIOUS ABOUT NOT TAGGING THE SHIPPERS INTO THIS THAT’D BE RUDE
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Endwalker MSQ finished
Spoilers behind the cut:
I do not want to go through anything like the quest chain in Ultima Thule EVER AGAIN. Sure, even as each Scion sacrificed themselves (and god was that hard for Baidar to watch when Y'shtola and Urianger did it) my cynical side was going "if it goes below three other Scions, we won't have trusts for doing the Level 90 dungeon," and I'd already joked that we were going to get the Sailor Moon, series 1, ending of the Scions sacrificing themselves to get us to the end, but...it still hurt. The very end of that chain, where you walk alone through the memories of the past who talk to you, was devastating. I liked that Y'shtola lampshaded the fact that we had Azem's soul crystal as a get out of jail free card and then told us not to use it...which set up our summoning Emet-Selch and Hythodaeus instead perfectly. I loved how they basically leaned on the fourth wall and then Emet foreshadowed possible enemies and plot points before nonchalantly saying "hey dumbass this means you can resurrect your friends, chop chop."
The final dungeon...well. Amaurot was better, and I want to knife whoever thought putting yellow AOE markers on yellow grass was a good idea on the last boss. The final trial was glorious, and I loved that the last 35% was basically a free kill with our friends praying for us and buffing us with the power of friendship. Zenos showing up as Shinryu was fucking hilarious, and set up the inevitable ending where at last we got to kill that motherfucker, sorry Zenos shippers. Baidar's character arc since the start of Stormblood has been becoming strong enough to defeat Zenos for nearly killing Y'shtola, and the fact that he got to do it was great. The fact that the WoL, in the end, beats Zenos to death barehanded was some brutal, Metal Gear Solid shit (I can't wait to see that cut scene from a lala's point of view) and I'm glad the bastard's dead.
While I understood the emotion the Scions felt for the WoL sending them away and then coming back damn near dead (I was waiting for Y'shtola to say something snarky that barely hides her feelings, thinking "what will I write to make it fit her and Baidar?" when she basically cried out "DON'T DO THAT AGAIN, MY HEART COULDN'T TAKE IT." Yeah I don't need to re-write that.), it was a little vexing considering the previous two hours in game. I'd just watched all my best friends die. Y'shtola has died three times now. G'raha's on his second death. Throwing stones in glass houses there, kids.
(edit: I have since realized that the intent of that scene is that the Scions aren't mad that you sent them away: they're mad that you stayed to fight Zenos when they thought you were coming. It's subtle, boiling down to one line, but it's there.)
I am not sure where it sits compared to Shadowbringers, 5.0 to 5.3, which essentially Endwalker is the equivalent of. It dragged some (both visits to Labyrinthos) and I think tried too hard to hammer home the grim dark, everyone is suffering themes, but when it was good, it was very good, and I submit to you that Elpis is the best questing zone in a MMO ever. In fact I have no words for the feeling of awe I had when I realized the Unsundered World was an actual quest zone. That was amazing.
Anyway I am very tired and need a break to decompress. Need to grab some gear on SAM to get ready to raid because I ain't missing Pandaemonium, and I need to level Reaper, but that's for another time.
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Hot take
As there is no news for now. I'd like to say something about the jenmish or cockles business. A RPS some people joined recently, mainly as coping mechanism after destiel shenanigans and grieving the finale. As someone said - Hellers that did not die in November but lived long enough to become casual cockles shippers.
For past few days every tweet and like of those two was closely monitored. There was "Eyes like the sky" theory and "steel knives anniversary theory". But in the end of the day those are only that - theories. Personally I think that looking for clues in every post is far-fetched and they have far too rich lives to try communicating something to us (if they really do have some kind of relationship because I acknowledge that the chemistry is really strong, but we are not and NEVER WILL BE a part of that - they can call, face time, text - they are showing us only a small part of their lives, which is good. Deal with that).
But they know what we think - they have social media, and not everyone of you people is exactly subtle. Which brings me to my point. IF they know, and all those coincidences are not coincidental at all, what does it mean?
If that's the case then they might make you lose your shit on purpose. They might enjoy chaos - from interviews and panels we know that they pranked each other all the time. Or maybe it is even some kind of punishment from them for all those unsolicited questions, all those streight up weird things people from fandom did, that personally made me ashamed that I was part of the fandom (yes, the final season chaos dragged me back).
So I see it like that
Either they do have secretive "more profound" bound, then why would they hint at that (unless they want you to make a fuss, so no one'll believe y'all)
There is no relationship, no secret meaning, we just unhinged and starved for content
There is no relationship and they are punishing you for caring (tbt that was what spn writers did in the end)
As you can imagine I think that either there is no deeper meaning, or they'll fuck with your heads as punishment. Either way I don't care. I just like looking at them interacting with each other. Just don't go "fake wive" crazy ya people, don't be creepy, don't break fuckin' fourth wall.
And I beg y'all don't freak out over beer and knives. Or every other tweet. OR POETRY BOOK, JUST PLEASE NO. Because as entertaining as it is, it is also tiring.
Tl/Dr
Hot take : Hidden message from Jensen and Misha (if there's any) is supposed to be fandom's punishment for being fuckall crazy
That's all
Edit: apparently I was writing that for so long that spn is TRENDING AGAIN
#spnews#destiel#spn#supernatural#spn season 16#please stop#jenmish#cockles#misha collins#Jensen ackles#Just let them live in peace#They are radio silent cause we crazy#Hot takes#Why am i doing this
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Supernatural: Carry On (15x20)
Oh my god. Lol. So... did Andrew Dabb forget to read back through his finale script one final time before deciding it was finished? Because like... Dean says "if we don't keep living, all that sacrifice (Cas and Jack) will be for nothing." Cut to a comically short time later, where Dean dies and is just like "time to go, let's not keep fighting, I'm tired lol."
Like WHAT did I just witness. I'm so grateful, in this moment, to a little show called The Magicians, because in April of 2019 they ended their fourth season with such an egregiously terrible decision that I literally couldn't sleep for a week, I was shaking and intermittently sobbing, I had never felt so betrayed and devastated over any piece of media before. After that, I've sort of become numb to bad endings, and this is no exception. This episode was absolutely terrible and I'm just sort of like... meh. I'll ignore it. Whatever.
I do want to forego the usual "pro" and "con" sections in this review, and do a more traditional full-on ramble about my thoughts, because they're kind of convoluted, if I'm gonna be honest.
The first thing I want to say, is that this wasn't the worst finale I've ever seen. Objectively, it was a terrible episode of TV and an insulting wrap-up to a fifteen-year-show. But I have a very specific category for the worst finales ever, and those are the ones that provide endgame states for the characters that are... unfixable in a post-canon but still-canon-compliant world. So, for example, the How I Met Your Mother finale killed off the titular mother and betrayed years of buildup, and that's a real-world sitcom. There's no resurrecting people from that shit. Or like. Game of Thrones being an obvious recent example. The Rise of Skywalker is a good movie example.
This? It's a little different. The endgame state of Sam and Dean and Cas is that they all die and spend eternity in Heaven, where they get to be with all their loved ones. I mean, sure, we don't get to see that, we only get a throwaway line to imply that Cas made it out of Super Turbo Hell The Empty, but that's the endgame state of the characters. And that's more or less what I would have wanted, as like a... years after canon situation. Right? So yeah, this was a bad episode, but if I edit in the shit I wanted to see, none of it contradicts the canon in a way that's not workable. It's a sad world we've come to where this is all I can really grasp at, but there is a perverse sort of comfort in that.
So, should we talk now about how Dean dying is a betrayal of what they said this whole season, and maybe whole show was about? Ha. It's so ridiculous. It's embarrassing. I watched Dean's final moments and I was embarrassed for Jensen. For Dean. For all of us watching.
Just. Watch the end of 15x19 again, okay? Watch it, and hear what they're saying. Yay, we killed God, we killed the author of the story, which means we get to write our own stories, finally. We get to do that. After all this time, we're finally free. And what does freedom look like? It looks like Dean dying on a run of the mill hunt.
We get this little montage of Sam and Dean at the Bunker, you know? They're doing laundry and going on jogs and cuddling with Miracle the dog, and they're brushing their teeth and going on hunts, I guess. And the emotional resonance from that scene was just kind of... ennui? And boredom? And that's what's so terrible and depressing about this ending. It's so empty, because Dean didn't get to do the thing he said he was fighting for. Sure, he was always fighting for Sam, but he should have been able to fight for himself, too, right? He should have been able to fight for a life after the years of programming. He should have gotten to be a rock star or a chef or worked at an animal shelter or become a foster parent or grown old as Sam's brother, as an uncle to his kid. He should have been able to find love, if he wanted that.
Look, I'm not even mad that Dean died in a "mundane" way. It's not like "nooo Dean is too coooool to die in such a laaaame way, he's a bad-ass and he should have gone out in a blaze of glory!" That's actually not what I'm mad about at all. Sam died old in his bed, and Dean should have been able to do that too. This whole season, since finding out that Chuck was the ultimate big bad, was supposed to be about free will, and Dean never got to figure out a way to be happy and find peace. That's fucking dour and stupid.
I kept saying, in the buildup to this finale, that a depressing, grim-dark ending to this show would be a failing of the themes they set up, and, hey, they didn't go grim-dark, because the writers did not think this was grim-dark. They thought it was powerful and emotional and resonant. You can tell they thought that, even though they're... uh... what's the word. Wrong? Yeah. Wrong. You know what I realized while watching this? It was just a lamer, less resonant and appropriate version of Sam's sacrifice at the end of season five.
Right? Because after Sam yeets himself into hell to save the world, Dean just has to keep going, and as Cas says, "you got what you wanted, more of the same." Just... more of the same. And Dean couldn't hack it, he was miserable without Sam, and Sam came back and we got ten more years of the fucking show. And now... what, we just get that in the other direction? Because Sam is the strong one and can soldier on without Dean because his codependency was a little less crippling? Wow, what a great ending for him, I guess. It doesn't work because we've seen Sam without Dean, and he falls apart too.
And now the show ends with Sam alone. Sure, he gets married to a blur in the background and has a kid, but let me ask you a question, here. Did Sam... want to be a father? I didn't know that was a thing he wanted, that would make him happy, honestly. I had no idea. So this doesn't seem like it works as something even remotely satisfying as an endgame state for him either. It's bleak.
And it's bleaker because there's nobody else in this fucking episode, y'all. The other big theme in all of Supernatural, after "free will" would be "family don't end in blood." And guess what? Apparently it does? Apparently Sam and Dean are each other's whole worlds and nothing else matters? We get... an implied wider world but we don't get to see it. We don't get to see Eileen, Jody, Donna, anybody left alive for Sam. So from the standpoint of characters that we know and give a shit about, Sam loses Cas, Jack, and Dean and lives the rest of his life lonely and sad. Nobody else even comes to Dean's funeral. It's just Sam alone with the dog. Like... that's bleak.
This ending gave the fucking Wincest shippers everything their hearts could desire, for fuck's sake. Like. Why did they cater to that and not follow through on the idea that they had created a family and community beyond each other? You know, this thing called character growth?
To take a brief break from the negativity, I will say something here about Sam and Dean. In the weird hysterical euphoria of the whole Destiel thing a couple weeks ago, I lost sight of something, which is that for me, the draw of this show has always been the relationship between Sam and Dean. I was never a brothers-only person, but it was their fucked up codependent bond that drew me to the show over the years. I loved the idea of Destiel, but I never thought it was going anywhere, so really I loved Castiel, the character, separate from the context of his relationships. Having a big dramatic death scene where Dean says "I love you so much" and there's a forehead touch and Dean saying "it's always been you and me" and confesses that he was scared to get Sam at Stanford because he didn't know how to survive if he didn't have him, and to have Sam say "don't leave me" and then give Dean permission to go... I mean, all of this is catnip, right? All of this is great, like, in isolation, it was such an amazing "broment," as the fandom says. I mean, it made no sense with context, it was utterly insulting in every way, but Jensen and Jared acted their lil' hearts out and I could tell they were really in the moment.
So let's talk about Cas for a second, while I have you here... they never should have done the big gay confession. They just shouldn't have even fucking bothered. I'm telling you, that makes this whole thing worse. It felt completely intentional and weird that Dean never acknowledged the confession, never told Sam, never had a moment where he specifically reckoned with Cas' loss. But that's what I knew would happen. I knew it in my blood and bones, and as the meta started pouring in, I knew people were getting their hopes up for nothing. See, Cas saying "goodbye Dean" and the handprint on the arm... I knew that was their catharsis, that was the writers' and Misha's big goodbye to the character of Castiel. They thought they fucking nailed it. I knew we wouldn't see him again.
Like I said before, I have to be satisfied with an endgame state that doesn't totally suck, right? So, we get this throwaway line from Bobby that Jack fixed Heaven and made it not suck, and that Cas helped. This implies a multitude of things that are... comforting. At least Cas doesn't get that dour, dark, helpless oblivion that I worried he'd get. We can assume Jack plucked him out of the Empty, that he gets to be with his son, and that, if the fic writers so choose, Dean and Cas can have lots of gay sex up in Heaven. I think Misha not being in this finale was frankly a slap in the face to one of the biggest and most important characters the show has ever seen, you know? And I think that they kept him out of it so we could have Schrodinger's Destiel. Because if we'd seen Cas in heaven, and he hadn't confessed his big gay love, Dean could have been like: "hey Cas! Buddy! Good to see you, my friend." But since we did have the love confession, whatever Dean did upon seeing Cas would have to mean something in that context. So instead we didn't get to see him at all.
Which is stupid.
Also stupid is that the big sacrifice was to save Dean's life and then a couple weeks later he gets impaled on a rusty nail and dies anyway. Thanks for making the whole thing feel so utterly pointless and empty. No pun intended. Wow, they did Misha dirty, here, didn't they.
Turning back to Sam's ending, let's just talk about that for a minute. Like I said, I'm happy he got to live a long life and die an old man, what Dean always wanted for him. But nothing about that ending was more poignant because Dean was gone. In fact, it just made it super duper depressing and lame. There was no reason Dean couldn't have gotten a happy life, too. It adds nothing that he died young and unfulfilled. Like, you know how people joke about the end of the Titanic, where you see that Rose's Heaven is reuniting with Jack and everyone else on the ship, and people will say "well, gosh, that's kind of a slap in the face to Rose's family" since she clearly got married and had kids and grandkids? This is literally that! Like, having an ending where a young-again Sam Winchester gets to Heaven, and his whole Heaven, the thing that he needed to find peace after death, was a return to his brother... look, I'm not mad about that, but what the fuck about nameless blurry wife that we couldn't even confirm to be Eileen for some reason? What about everyone else?
And did Sam... keep hunting? Did he go to law school? Maybe there were background details that confirmed what he ended up doing with the rest of his life besides becoming a husband and father, but I didn't see evidence of it because I was too busy rolling my eyes out of my skull at how dumb this all was. So Sam just gets a generic "raking leaves in the yard" ending, like we saw for Dean at the end of season five, with nothing to challenge that. Even though we've seen why life outside of hunting, life without Dean, isn't satisfying for Sam, we're now supposed to accept it as how he spends the rest of his life, without seeing him put the work in to get there?
One thing I realized watching this episode is that it tries to play the middle. Like, with the Cas thing, they didn't want to make his noble gay sacrifice totally meaningless, so they couldn't just pop him back into the story, but they did give us one single throwaway line to reassure fans that he's not still in The Empty. So, people who don't give a shit about Cas can assume he's off being Jack's assistant and doesn't really interact with humans in Heaven. People who do give a shit about one of the show's main characters can assume that he has a home in Dean's little Heaven neighborhood too, and they all get to buddy around for eternity. People who don't like Eileen? Well, Sam married some nobody who we never got to meet. People who liked her? Well, you can't prove that wasn't Eileen, can you? Even Dean driving around in the impala waiting for Sam to die so he could finally be happy with his fucking soulmate or whatever. Time in Heaven is weird, Bobby says. It's metaphorical. You could assume that the driving montage was actually intercut with other moments, with Dean getting to see dear old mom (and dad, I guess, but ugh), and spending time with Bobby, with OG Charlie, with other familiar faces, and new ones as they finally reach their own deaths on Earth and come up to party with the rest of the gang.
Like, in a better show, in a world without Covid, maybe they had plans along these lines, to get more guest characters back and show Dean getting sappy hellos to a bunch of side characters in Heaven. To be quite honest, I would not have been mad about that. If you're going to make Dean die young and never give him the chance to find out who he could have been when the choices were all his own, which is, in case I haven't made that clear, a horrendous and insulting ending for his character... at the very least you could have given us the cheesiness of seeing him hug his friends in Heaven. Jeezus.
I want to hammer in this point one more time before I wrap up: they ended the show by saying that character development didn't matter. They had Dean's dying speech be a meta reference to the pilot episode of the show, they had him saying "it's always been you and me" and then they confirmed that with everything they had. Sam became a father, but did he have a happy life? Seems like he pined away for his dead brother for decades and then died. If the pilot had never happened, if Sam had stayed at Stanford and Dean had gone on hunting by himself, you know what would have happened? Sam would have had a "normal" life and married a woman and had a kid, I guess, and grown old, and Dean would have died fighting some vampires in a barn. This show has been on for fifteen years, and the ending did not honor anything about the journey the characters had been on.
A particularly egregious example is the early scene with the pie festival, where Sam is like "I'm sad about Cas and Jack" and Dean is like "if we don't go on living it won't honor their sacrifice" like... yeah, I get it, bringing people back from the dead time and time again is supposed to be a bad thing that Sam and Dean did for each other because they were selfish. So Sam giving Dean permission to go was supposed to be a growth moment. Sam and Dean accepting that Cas was gone and not even asking Jack to make sure he got sent to a happy eternity instead of oblivion, that's supposed to mean they've learned their lesson. And what a fucking lesson to leave things off on. Jesus, this is grim.
So like. As I try to figure out what to say at the end of this review, I will point out one glimmer of light in the darkness, which is that this finale isn't going to ruin the rewatchability of the show for me. I can still come back and re-watch without feeling like the whole thing is ruined by the ending. It's more than I can say for some other shows.
But honestly, if this was the ending we were going to get? Why the fuck not leave it open-ended? I did not enjoy 15x19 particularly well, but at least that episode left them on the open road, with a wide future ahead of them. Anything might have happened. It's their turn to write the story, right? Chuck is dead, the writer is "dead", the show is over, and now the possibilities are endless. That would have been an anticlimactic ending, for sure. But this ending just turns around and slaps the whole point of that first ending in the face and says "haha bitch you thought". They don't get to write their own stories. We see exactly how those stories end, and it's lame. Leave something to the imagination, yo. Leave it vague how and when they died, what their lives turned into. Show them in Heaven, getting to their peace at last, reuniting with their friends, including Cas. Put in a significant glance between Dean and Cas, and leave it to the internet to go wild about what it could mean. And never answer when fans ask "so what happened, when did they die? Did they keep hunting?" Just leave it vague. If this was the only ending they could come up with, I'd rather be left with questions.
This finale gets a low score from me, because they couldn't even pull on the right heartstrings to make me sentimental...
4/10
But the show as a whole? Well, it was a mess, and it had some seriously high highs and some devastatingly low lows. It's a bummer that the lowest low came in how they tried to wrap up the whole shebang, but like I said, this ending isn't going to ruin the whole fifteen-year run for me. We get to make up what happens next, and we can make Jack's new and improved Heaven our post-canon fix-it haven. I don't think there's ever been a show in my life quite like Supernatural. The fandom is so bonkers. The meta narrative of the show is so convoluted and twisty and goes in so many unexpected directions. I liked watching this show for its own sake, and also as like... an anthropologist trying to discover something about humanity and American values specifically. It wasn't always a pleasant experience, but it was one I know I'll never forget. My heart tells me to give the show as a whole a high score, representing the many, many hours of joy and dread and delight and horror I got over the near decade I've personally been watching. How do you wrap up fifteen years in a score out of ten?
9/10
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Hey, Maddie! I appreciate your blog a lot, but this is the first time I'm sending an ask to you. The reason of my ask i's abt a thing that is bothering me a lot: the "war" among Skr and Ssk fans between the SS fandom. How can I start that? Okay, after years of the heavy angst inherent of the ship, the hateful content of the ASSes and the almost 6 years of cannon, I never expected to see the fans bashing each others for like Ssk or Skr more. Cont (1)
Cont (2) But I'm noticing that there are more Ssk fans complaining abt the "awful" side of the SS fandom than Skr fans, so I thought it would be good to show how the things aren't not so simple. To see Skr more popular among SS shippers nowadays is a big surprise for me. I'm of the time when Skr was treated as nothing but an object that exists only for Ssk's pleasure and joy (sex, children and love). Cont...
Cont (3)I may was rude with my words and I feel sorry, I don't want to hurt others Ssk's fans feelings, but as a huge Skr fan, I got a bit upset in how some Ssk stans are playing victims of this whole situation. Look, there are a lot of people who call themselves "skr fans" and really hates Ssk, we can see it more clearly comes from KS/NS fandom, but there are a lot of skr hate from Ssk fandom too. Cont...
Cont (4) And the reasons they hates Skr is even worse like "She has no big boobs", "Ssk should make a lot of strong babies with Karin/Hinata/Ino, bc Skr comes with a normal family, so she's trash", "she's a obsessive bitch". Some Ssk fans are so cruel that like projects a distorted image of Ssk being evil (only with skr) and got pleasure a lot from that. Even though these things harms Ssk's character as well, I rarely see Ssk stans complains abt that. Cont...
Cont (5) It seems like Ssk became treated like the way Skr was always been treated by many people in the ss fandom hurts some Ssk's fans feelings. But, as a huge fan of both(together and individually), it hurt me 10 times more. I see the main problem in the way many people who like SS just because think they are hot together or are biased by the fanfictions standards(that in most cases are pure ooc),not because their cannon story. Cont...
Cont (6) I don't mind if they like them only bc of these reasons, but I got rly upset when they try to put fanon stuff into cannon stuff. In the middle of all that, as I always talked with my friends, it's indispensable to understand the character as a whole, not thinking abt romance. And I think I find another problem: some people follow some series just bc of ship. Again, I have no problem with it, I made it a lot of time before. Cont...
Cont (7) But these people need to understand that in a Shounen manga like Naruto, the main focus isn't Ssk and Skr living a sweet romance and, tbh, the obsession with romance make many fans lost a lot of good content, even between SS. For ex, in the chapter 181, Sakura say to Sasuke that "he always hated her". Cont...
Cont (8) OMG, it hurted me a lot, bc this same guy was dispose to die to save her from Gaara, he associates her with his dead family two times in part 1 and hear her talk as if him don't care about her probably was awful. But at the same time, we can see how much Skr feelings changed (for better). Cont...
Cont (9) Even in that moment with 12 yrs, she doesn't want make him hers, she knew him deeply(he isn't her old childish fantasies… He is much better than that, but also full of pain…)and saw how lonely and broke he was, but also saw the good things inside him. Even in that time, she didn't want see him become that man we saw in the Iron Land. Cont...
Cont(10) Meanwhile some people prefer to reduce the whole context in "Sasuke been an idiot once again", the true fans can see the connection between them. The fact that they know each other so well always touch my heart. And abt MultiSaku and Ssk hate, I have been analyzing how many of these "multisaku" fans are only self-insert. Cont...
Cont (11) They like imagine themselves involved in some fetishism like "student and teacher", "old man and young woman", etc. It is why I would like some Ssk stans be careful when they claim that "SS fandom only cares abt skr", it isn't true at all. Many so called "fans" even don't know the cannon Sakura. Cont...
Cont (12) It is pretty funny, look: we know that Skr(as all other Naruto women) could be much more active in battle if Kishimoto himself isn't insecure of write women as he write abt men, but there are features that Skr has in cannon and some fans put them in fanfictions like if it was something new. XD And abt multisaku shippers hate on Sasuke, I got so tired of it. Cont...
Cont (13)They use the moments where she looks sad for Ssk's bad actions and contrast it with Nrt makes her smile, etc. There are also the idea of a man like Lee is much better than Ssk bc he never was afraid of show his feelings for her. Seeing by this perspective, we can almost forget that Ssk isn't the badboy who gets pleasure from Skr's pain, he is a survivor of the biggest genocide of the shinobi world. Cont...
Cont (14)One of the most interesting thing I love abt SS is how they aren't just the stereotype of "bad boy x good girl/fangirl", in fact they are a deconstruction of that and it could be even better if Kishimoto wasn't so shy or if these two belonged to a seinen manga. And speaking by skr side, I also noticed that most men who has no "afraid of showing their emotions to her" are just her fanboys. Cont...
Cont(15) They think she's pretty and want to be with her. They don't know she deeply for treat her like a queen as some people argue. It's like a female version of Ssk. XD And Maddie, I've reading your texts and I also agree that Skr don't want to be treated like this. What she wanted was to be acknowledged as a full human being/shinobi. Skr had a big inferiority/ superiority complex and to be in the same team with Ssk and Nrt made it even worse than her time with Ino. Cont...
Cont(16)Although this aspect didn't received much attention from the author like her teammates issues, it was still there and it is the one of the roots of her sadness, not the simple fact of Ssk's existence as many haters and KS/NS shippers say. And speaking abt that, one of the most enjoyable things I found in SS is that Ssk never saw her in a idealized way(like "that pretty, perfect girl"). Cont...
Cont (17) He saw her flaws and told her abt them face to face (and it made her improve her behavior), but he also showed sensibility to see her heart (when he cheered her up in front many people or the way he compared skr with his family). Cont...
Cont (18) All of this is away better than the idealized "queen" worship, bc he is seeing her heart and not the surface. I also read an excellent analysis abt how Ssk see skr as the same way he saw Itachi (like as if her was a bother to him, which is untrue) and it could help more people understand him. Cont...
Cont (end) To finish this long ask, there are a lot of fake ss fan in the fandom of both sides and it isn't a new thing, but we, the real fans, will overcome that issues. Our ship is already cannon and they are in the new phase, some people need to grow up with them, too.
To describe that as simply a “long” ask is one hell of an understatement Anon, holy fuck. I usually include screenshots of the ask if it spans more than one part but I wasn't gonna crop and edit 18 different screenshots, lol; Copy and paste will have to do in this case.
Now having said that, yes I agree with the basic gist of what you said ^_^
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Edited: I’ve added a keep reading because I’m tired of y’all messaging me. Blacklist your tags, friends, cause I’m not dragging my laptop out just to add a cut for you assholes again. Since this dropped early, you get one freebie. One. I tagged properly the first time. Don’t @ me.
Spoilers for 8x02...
SPOILERS! SPOILERS! SPOILERS!
I can’t believe NO ONE rightly pointed out to Daenerys that she was spouting that nonsense bullshit about her trash father in the hall of the man said piece of garbage father murdered. Like bitch you’re really going to run your mouth about the greatest deed of Jaime’s life while sitting in Rickard Stark’s hall? STFU. Book Daenerys is legitimately one of my favorite characters but the D&D version...I just want someone to punch her in the face everytime she unhinges her jaw to spew more asinine horseshit.
I loved Brienne speaking up for Jaime. And Sansa’s reaction—I want more Sansa and Brienne.
Is there trouble in ✨paradise✨? Looks like there is...where are you running off to, Jonathan Snowflake?
Why is she attacking Tyrion? God why is she so fucking stupid. I lose IQ points everytime she opens her damn mouth.
I feel like they’re setting us up for disillusioned Jorah...
I’ve never been a proponent of political!Jon but uh...
Sansa has not come to play with these hoes. What about the North, Daenerys? What you think because you “bonded” over the fact that you both have a vajayjay, and men think that makes you dumb, that means that Sansa is suddenly going to forget all about her own house and family and people for the sake of your dumbass crown?
Give ST all the Emmys already for that scene though...you can see the moment she goes from “I’m going to cut a bitch” to “Joffrey is my one true love...” Her face is so expressive, I can’t deal with it.
Theon!!!! I know everyone keeps talking about Dany’s face when Theon pledges to fight for the Starks but who the fuck cares about the Empress of Entitlement when Theon and Sansa are looking at each other like THAT?!
Pretty sure that little girl in the yard with Davos was supposed to ~trigger~ thoughts of Shireen. Down to the scars on the side of her face and everything. Also, could we give Gilly more than three lines please? Thanks.
TORMUND AND FRIENDS HAVE ARRIVED!!
The council meeting was...they all are probably going to die. I’d say half of that room will be dead by the end of 8x03. But don’t quote me because who the fuck knows? I sure as shit don’t...
Jonathan? Jonathan Snowflake? Where are you running off to, Jonathan? There is definitely trouble in paradise...
The best part of this whole episode was Tyrion, Jaime, Brienne, Podrick and Davos sitting around the fire. And it only got BETTER when Tormund showed up. I’d legit just watch a show with those six sitting around a fire riffing off each other and shooting the shit.
And Jaime knighting Brienne...my Braime heart. 😍❤️
Gendrya...ick. Do. Not. Want. Look, I love Gendrya but if I never have to see a half-naked Maisie Williams again it will be too soon. Not because she’s not beautiful (she is) but because I remember when she was TWELEVE on THIS show and...nope. Sorry, but nope. Also, it was kind of out of left field so...🤷🏽♀️
The ending montage was nice, I thought. I didn’t pick up on the shipper vibes like everyone else between Sansa and Theon. But let me talk about that for a minute...if they were to get together? GOOD FOR THEM! Not because I want to keep Sansa away from another ship (side-eyeing the dumbass Jonerice stans...and btw, y’all got your own mess to worry about hooooly shit) but because he’s the only person to ever straight up offer to fight FOR HER (not counting Brienne, but if we got Sansa/Brienne for real, I’d probably literally die my life would be complete).
I don’t think Theonsa is going to be a thing though. Cause I think Theon is gonna be wight food 😩😭
And finally the parentage reveal...wow. Sings aaaaaaalmooooost paaaaaradiiiiiiseeeee...but not quite. All I got to say is, Jonsa may very well not happen (I’ve never thought it would, personally, just thought it was possible) but all the same in The Who’s Been Right and Who’s Been Wrong stakes, I think we’re up to Jonsa 134224, Jonerys 0. So sad. Sorry, not sorry.
#game of thrones spoilers#spoilers spoilers spoilers#leaks and spoilers#got spoilers#got8 spoilers#sansa stark#theon greyjoy#arya stark#gendry waters#jon snow#jaime lannister#brienne of tarth#jonsa#theonsa#braime#gendrya#and so many more#overall id say it was an okay episode
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Ch. 14: A marriage takes place (?)
So I am laying in bed with back pain terrified that it’s sciatica again, and thought that it would be a good time as any to talk about “the wedding” — No, not that one — that may (or may not) have taken place this past weekend.
Don’t get me wrong, I am not mad, or sad, or heartbroken — maybe because for months now I have been slowly letting all of that go. I am just tired of all of it. And looking back, it all feels so stupid to get involved in shipping these two people I have little interest or respect in any more. After all the bullying, the campaign against shippers being called mentally ill, which I, who do suffer mental illness and take major offense to, have decided it’s not worth it. It’s not a “happy” place anymore. This thing doesn’t deserve my time and energy any more.
The saddest thing for me, is that I have also developed an indifference to Outlander, which is what makes me the most upset; something I loved that I feel has been ruined for me through all this shipping, games, lies and what-have-you. I see videos, it’s all “meh.” I want to make gifs, or edits, but my indifference wins out and I don’t.
Their “happy 5th anniversary of the show” where they looked like they were both as excited as they’d be if they were about to have a colonoscopy had me convinced that whatever Outlander was to both of them, just isn’t any more. I’ve said it before, if our leads aren’t invested, why should I, as a fan, be? 🤷🏻♀️
So, the wedding. I don’t really care 😂 I do care however, for all my friends who are feeling hurt, confused and sad, about all of it. We didn’t just make shit up. We SAW it. A lot of us, who have been married for years, been in love, we know “it” when we see it. I can’t say it was all for “the show,” I haven’t really decided on that yet, but undoubtedly, some of it was just that.
If you are still shipping, you do you. If you aren’t, that’s ok too. I am not going to judge. It’s hard to let go of something you’ve invested YEARS in to. I have been going through the process for months. It takes time, after investing so much of your emotions, your thoughts, and TIME, which you can’t get back.
I was not a popular shipper, or one who was personally attacked, but I did ride or die with you ladies lol. I will still stick up for shippers, still consider myself to be on the shipper side of the fandom, because that’s where the best times where had. Thank you to those I’ve met along the way.
So I feel like I am in the Upside down of Tumblr, wandering around in a black landscape with no fandom alliance 😂 Just reblogging things I like with no rhyme or reason. Who knows if it will stay that way or not, or for how long. Do I give up on Outlander for good? I can’t really say. But the whole Sam and Cait thing is for sure over for me.
Thanks for reading, if you got this far. And sorry again for not being around as much as I was. I am trying to work out my place here, so please continue to bear with me as I find my way. Oh and if you can spare some thoughts and prayers for my fucked up back, I’d appreciate that too 😊😂
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I really hate aggressive, hateful, bullying, and petty fans in fandoms. Tldr, can't edit, on phone but feeling my annoyance hard
SPOILERS AHEAD FOR THE RISE OF SKYWALKER
Also, kinda long, feel free to scroll past, I'm just dealing with the stress of negative fans toxifying fandoms, on either side. Also if you don't like negative critiques of Kylo, feel free to scroll.
(on phone, can't cut it off, sorry for length, or typos)
Often there's two sides, half the time those two sides are ship-focused, though not always, it can be character focused or narrative focused. And I try to be, and mostly am, reasonable, patient, and respectful of people's opinions.
Sometimes my opinions might sound as if they're judgmental if a character, but I do my best to deliver my opinion honestly but without it seeming aggressive. Sometimes I might even with-hold an opinion to not offend or start a fight (I hate TR now, but have friends who love it, that I rp with, so I keep most opinions to myself and try to stay respectful when, if ever, I share my opinion).
I don't like people, on either side, ie that share my opinion or stand with the opposite (over a ship, character, it any content), who will attack in any way, shape or form; calling people idiots, generalizing in misogynistic/sexist/racist/or any other close minded fashion that is often in accurate and or offensive, and just belittling someone who just happens to have a different opinion (sometimes in a respectful fashion, sometimes aggressive).
I've been through so many fandoms with such arguments over character morality, character treatment, how a character translates into an example of toxic real life people or not, if so and so should be together or single or with that other character. I've had my aggressive days, fewer than others, but I'll admit to my doing. But it's not worth attacking and I'm constantly working towards bring better, expressing my opinions and views freely without arguing and attacking.
But I also I'm beginning to learn to stick to that fandom advice/fact of "you can like things, and not support all the bad; you can be interested in a character and not have to feel guilty or feel you have to defend every part of them. Fandom isn't black and white, and it shouldn't always be a responsibility" (not to say you shouldn't be aware of how things can be offensive or harmful, but not Quit Culture just because you feel guilty).
All this leads me to stating that I'm sitting here, trying to figure my opinions of a character without ignoring all the realities of their good nor their bad, and worrying I'd offend friends by having a positive opinion or negative opinion, and in trying to scan tags I'm Tumblr, certain fandom members are making me feel fucking disgusted.
So, I'm gonna say, I have a complicated opinion of Kylo Ren/Ben Solo from the recent Star Wars trilogy. I'll list it like this, a 1st watch and Reflection phase of each movie.
TFA; 1st Watch,--love the actor, so only minimally biased. But I liked the conflicting factor of who he was, where he came from, where he could go. Reflection-- after a while, the appeal half wore off, and given the hidden/limited backstory to his fall, half the fandom assumed he was influenced and wronged with no choice, or that he was deeply loved and cared for kid that turned his back on so much light for the legacy of a grandfather that he should have known wasn't all that Darkness he was trying to become and so he becomes a killer and leaves his family behind, for bullshit.
TLJ; 1st Watch--clearly struggling and growing in his desires and conflicts, may or may not have done fucked up shit to his fellow students and just continues to be a raging lil whatever, and then we have the Rey connection which, albeit out of his control, seems to come off stalky and invasive and forced. Just, very angry, little change other than expressing he's conflicted and masking it with further rage and aggression. Reflection--basically felt the same afterwards. But from here on out, I hear fro others or notice myself that he seemed to fit the tormented but actually spoiled an whiny, angry nice guy archetype, bordering on tyrant student if not actually so. My opinion was lowered, I didn't try to analyze like I do Loki, for fear I'd get sympathetic for a character who's too morally fucked for it to be okay.
TRoS; 1st Watch--confliction grows, he seems like an angry, lost robot, alone, just trying to regain control in whatever fashion he can, trying to stay on top, find answers. Will admit, what I had wandered and hadn't had evidence to before, that his evil master (thought to be Snoke but really Palpatine) was manipulating him through Anakin/Vader, then Smoke, changes my views w decent amount (as does some novelisation reveals, I think, that state the original trio kept the truth of who Vader was from Ben for years and such a lie, when growing up believing one a valiant Jedi and the other a powerful and mostly evil sith saved at the end of his life was surely confusing (but this is one of those conflicting facts of, Was this always the truth and plan or was it added in for sympathy? Not gonna argue)). Then we have one scene, a battle between 'Good' and 'Evil', he's trying to kill Rey for Palpatine or for himself, can't really say. He is stabbed, deadly wound, saved, and it's like a painful rebirth, he speaks to his father, and sheds Kylo, going to join Rey as Ben and out a stop to it once and for all. For all my conflicted feelings before and still standing by such, seeing that last scene had me hyped and crying, I thought it was all amazing, and he made many good actions to balance against his good. But still not enough, and I'm tired of the Villain Dies to Earn Redemption arc, good or badbor misunderstood, these characters should be able to live, pay for their crimes, and grow from it. But also, deeply against reylo for personal and none personal reasons, I found the kiss sweet and heartbreaking, it was a soft moment that made me feel (I prefer her with Finn, if not the impossible Finn and Poe, but I understand why reylo is shipped). Reflection--basically the same, except I've learned that there was implied neglect, assumption of evil, lying about his family, and an Evil Dark Lord whispering in his ear as probably both Snoke AND fake Vader, and he's still fucked up for all the death, pain, and torment he caused that most of it could have not be necassary. But maybe I'm fucked up for now suddenly wanting to analyze and understand him and for thinking he deserved to live his redemption, not die and earn it.
But whatever. I've decided I'm gonna RP, and analyze. And I keep sifting through Tumblr for feels post or just pics of Ben, not Kylo. And there's a lot of Reylo, I either admire it and move on.
But then there's posts trying to demean other characters in twisted, if not cruel ways. Example 2; Finn kept taking Rey's hand on Jakkuu without her consent, but Kylo always asked, such a gentleman!! = ...Finn grabbed her hand while they were running, it was a protective instinct, not in any way trying to violate her. For one, Kylos reach was a 'please take my hand and assist in making the universe cry while we spread evil' so it's not a healthy comparison, not to mention, Kylo actually violated her, using the force on her body, making her unconcious, kidnapping her, and attempting to torture her and invade her mind. I'm sorry, there's no arguing who has violated her. Example 2; referring to Finn, in just a simple small statement if who deserved her, as FN2187 = Nice, so you just stated you're an aggressive, hateful shipper AND a racist willing to use a black characters literal slave title.
Like, I'm just trying to look for pics or meta that relate to what I'm feeling, but the characters I love more than Ben, and sometimes the actors (Rey, Finn/John, Poe/Oscaar) get attacked or demeaned, or called bullies for doing less than what said fans actually say and do on a daily.
I'm just here for Kylo/Ben, but got people being toxic fucking bullies while defending him or vying for his worthiness and happiness, which makes me disgusted for even considering interest in him.
And it shouldn't. And it won't. But I'll just say this, you people make fandoms like a fucking fire pit. Just here for warmth, maybe to admire the fire, but you don't handle it properly and he burn others in the process, while making others turn around and fear the fire.
So please. Just...chill. Be respectful. Or feel free being the aggressive assholes that making the thing you love into something toxic and unlovable.
#tros spoilers#star wars spoilers#the rise of skywalker#the rise of skywalker spoilers#star wars#fandom discourse#tldr#sorry for the tldr#kylo ren meta#ben solo beta
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It’s not like I planned this. I just ... there was a lot about Tom’s character that didn’t make sense to me, and I wanted him to make sense, so I looked deeper into his character. The deeper, the better. More objective if you aren’t a shipper or huge Tom Keen fan. People don’t want to see someone bash all that they love, which I often see with shippers. They’ll swarm a post like a pack of rabid dogs if you slam their ship. Sometimes it’s hilarious. But also understandable. Hate can do the same, but I never allowed my hate for Tom’s character to cloud my theories. I had every reason to hate him, there’s no denying that. But hating and lack of understanding are two different things.
I have ADHD and OCD. My mind is in constant, and it’s not just one thought at one time, it’s dozens swimming round and round again. New thoughts diving into the pool, some jumping out because they’re tired. It’s like a humongous public swimming hole. Details matter to me because they take up a big chunk of brain-space. When they don’t fit, my mind forces me to find out why. So much thinking, I often get headaches because of it. Sure, I could go on medication, but I love the way my mind works. It limits me in some areas, but I don’t want to end up a thoughtless zombie. I know many of you have seen it already. I’ll post, and like ten minutes later, you’ll see that I’ve edited that post to add more information. That’s quite literally how my mind works. Thought spurts. Same with comments and replies. If I reply to you on fb, you’ll likely end up with ten more. I have to force myself to stop thinking in order to watch a full-length movie. I have to force myself to stop thinking in order to sit and read a book. Short stories and poetry is better, so I typically stick with that. Fanfic is good too. I watch more tv than film. My thoughts are constant, which is why most of my posts are long, or I end up posting ten shorts back-to-back.
Tom’s character didn’t make sense, I wanted to know why. I don’t ship him, I don’t like him, but I also don’t want him painted as a monster. Redemption’s very concept, doing bad for good. It’s called intent, and it matters. When you have a criminal like Red who quite literally kills people, intent matters. I don’t give a fuck about characters like Floriana Campo. One bullet can save so many. Only a monster would support the rape and abuse of children. I’m a huge Dexter fan.
A single, simple concept that allows one character to make sense. Tom’s gun to Liz’s head in 1x22. Sorry, but you're not gonna sell me the idea that he put a gun to her head because he was trying to save her from Fake Berlin. He took her to the man. What he saw when he got there didn’t change his intent, only his approach. It was Fake Berlin’s dialogue to Tom. “Let’s deal with the other female agent first. Then I want you to take care of the ginger.” At this point, Fake Berlin’s hitman was in Ressler’s custody, so he had to turn to Tom for help. Let’s say their intent was to kill her. Why would Fake Berlin need Tom's help to kill a woman? If it’s a matter of getting close enough to Liz, okay. Why would Tom need Fake Berlin's help to kill Liz? If she was supposed to die, why not kill her when he pulled the gun on her in the first place? Why bother taking her to Fake Berlin to do it? He could’ve had her pull into some alley, put a bullet in her head, and be done with it. Apparently, they both need to kill Liz together, but Tom can kill Ressler by himself. Why? Perhaps the intent wasn’t to kill. Perhaps the intent was to deliver. I will now call your attention to dialogues at the Red Wedding. Coming to kill her? -- No. To abduct her. -- I was instructed to deliver Masha Rostova to my employer, and that’s what I intend to do. Now I’d like to call your attention to Solomon’s dialogue to Tom in the pharmacy, and Tom cutting him off mid-sentence. This one’s on you, kid. We’re only in this situation because… Solomon is referencing Liz’s attempted kidnapping at the Red Wedding. He’s blaming Tom for it. Why? And what did Tom say to Liz before their Red Wedding? Need I say more?
A simple fucking concept. Okay, Tom cared about Liz and wanted to do right by her. He believed Constantin was her biological father, and he wanted to reunite them. Is it THAT hard to imagine? We have to worry about how the writers will paint Tom that they should never explain his character? What you consider a fluid characer isn’t a fluid character to me. I’m sorry, but his character NEVER made sense. You can list excuse after excuse all you like, I prefer a good and solid explanation. It makes sense if you actually consider it. That's all I’ve been doing - making sense of a character that has been bothering my brain-space. Make sense of it, and I can move onto other things to obsessively think about.
The writers can’t hurt your precious Tom, he’s a fucking fictional character.
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Are you going to translate kagerou daze last chapter? I can’t wait
Well...okay. I’m gonna be honest with the Kagepro Fandom here.
It is not likely Iwill post the RAW manga for the fandom anymore
I will get the manga, yes. But at this point, I don’t evenwant to contribute anything to do fandom to help with access to officialcontents.
It was a very hard decision to make, but with how theKagepro fandom is acting today, I have decided I will not post the Kagepro RAWson Tumblr anymore, and will remove all RAWs I have scanned once I get thesubscription.
TL; DR: At thispoint, the fandom is too toxic, therefore I have no more desire to provide themanga chapters even though there is only one chapter left. Sorry to those whowere not involved in this, but screw it with the antis who now run the fandomand hope you’re happy.
Also still shipKanoKido and don’t see HibiMomo as a “pedophilia ship”
Listen. Back when I joined the fandom, it was a simplertime. Yobanashi Deceive came out, followed by Lost Time Memory and Ayano’sTheory of Happiness shortly after. Those days were simple as we all cried overKano and Ayano, and think of the potential plot LTM revealed as we all waited forMekakucity Actors to come out. We also had awesome contents on translatorstranslating some fancomics (with permission) and a good amount of fanfics andfanarts provided by the fans in this fandom.
Of course, we had some discourse over which was better:KanoKido or KanoAya; and over Shounen Brave’s MV being leaked online. And wehad major discourse over how MCA went, but in the end it’s just agree todisagree and move on to focus to other medias Kagerou Project was released in,or just move away from the series in general.
Right now with the fandom, however, they cannot agree ordisagree over ships. Majority of the fandom anyway. Today the fandom…other fandoms really, just love to throwthe word ‘incest’ and ‘pedophilia’ left and right with ease and spread theirflames in their posts, tags and replies. In everything, really. Even when theyposted official art, they feel the need to scream in their tag to tell usshippers to fuck off and die for shipping what they think is ‘incest’. I also knowthere are those who are disgusted over my display picture of Kano and Kidokissing, which an old friend of mine edited when that episode of MCA aired(won’t reveal name because I don’t want you to attack them). And even feelgross out over the pic in my blog of Kano petting Kido’s kitty ears.
I want to ask, how can the antis who claim Kano and Kido aresiblings, can see petting as sexual? You could have chosen to see it as abrother petting his sister’s kitty ears because it is cute and fun to tease herfor that, but no. Just because Kano and Kido are alone within a picture…or apanel frame really, you guys choose to view it as a romantic relationshipinstead of a sibling relationship, getting angry over it and spreading hate.
Ironic for antis who claim Kano & Kido are siblings, butjust seeing them together doing something makes you think it’s romantic anyway.
What’s more. Age gaps. Ever since another discourse over ships happened when my friend tried to makepeace with shippers (and sadly failed and upset over it when you guys flamedher), I have heard of this thing called “Half your age + Seven” to dictate whoto date with, and what is appropriately shippable, like HibiMomo. Honestly thispost have the best response over it, but I will quote the replyhere.
so a 16 year old can’tdate a 14 year old? so an 18 year old can’t date a 16 year old? so a 40 yearold can’t date a 27 year old? a math expression should not be the regulation ondating ages…
and if it’s shippingwho tf cares? not hurting anybody because they all fictional…
To be honest, this reminds me of Dead Poet Society. Ifanyone had seen the film, maybe you recall a scene where poetry is calculatedby math as well. This is that level of stupidity. The fandom today is doingsomething what could be considered excrement on what is acceptable over whatis fiction and bringing that over to reality. The reality where your parents,grandparents, classmates or anyone you know also have age gaps, and that reallyyou are more upset over fictional characters dating instead of real-life issuesof incest and pedophilia.
Other than that little discourse fiasco, there are otherthings, but I will not go into detail. Instead just says this tiny fandom justfeels too entitled with their belief and doing uncalled for things likebackstabbing and limiting others to enjoy supporting the fandom in their ownway. Also to let the antis go free by just sit by and watch. I understand thosewho are just tired and don’t want to deal with them. But for those who actuallyenable the antis to do what they want because you guys just don’t care, youguys are part of the guilty party as well by letting them grow and think it’sa-okay to be like this.
With that being said, I do not feel the need to post thefinal chapter anymore. You guys will have to figure it out yourselves or justwait and hear bits and pieces of it maybe. But I don’t even want to post what Iknow. Instead I will just share those RAWs with who I am friends with and whomI trust, plus those who are more mature because instead of flaming, they justlet others enjoy what they ship and do their own things.
The chapters being taken down will also remove myself as aRAW provider to the fandom, which I am thankful because I do not need to dothis anymore, as I, again, I hate scanning and always believe I would get intotrouble.
I know there are those, like my friends and mutuals I havehere on Tumblr, who wanted to read the manga since they do not have access tothem where they live. I am sorry for doing this to them too, but it just isn’tworth it in the end.
Instead, I will spend my remaining days in the fandom asjust someone who hears bits and pieces of Kagepro fandom here and there while Iam enjoying myself more in another fandom or doing other things I enjoy inlife, instead of spreading hate when someone doesn’t agree with you. I willstill look forward to Jin’s next album and when Mekakucity Reload to come out, andalso I might finish my KanoKido Oneshot requests and multichapter stories Iwanted to finish, but that will take a longtime since I’m planning to focus other writing instead.
But what I look forward to the most is when the series’ end,so then it can be put to rest for real and I can officially leave and let thefandom to slowly die. Might hear some things, but it will be a dying fandom atthat point.
The asks are still open for yelling. But it will just provea point. But right now, I believe I have blocked a lot of anti, which goes toshow how toxic this fandom has become. If I do get any asks/anon hate though,feel free to blacklist #discourse and #negativity, dear followers. Tumblralways had that option at least, you guys just need to use it when you’re onthe app without xKit. Also I will just answer those asks once, then block them afterwards (if you’re sending an ask through anon, you’re IP blocked).
If you guys read this whole thing (over 2 pages at thispoint), then I thank you for reading this. And more so if you understand what Iam doing. Sorry to those who are upset over this, but not to the antis who areupset and possibly raging if they read this.
Because with antis running the fandom, I want no part in itby providing them the last manga content.
#kagepro#kagerou project#kagerou daze manga#kagepro fandom#kiki's kagepro scans#kiki's raw scans#discourse#negativity#Anonymous
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Witness: Jaetion
Creator name (AO3): Jaetion
Creator name (Tumblr): Jaesauce
Link to creator works: https://archiveofourown.org/users/Jaetion/works
Creator name (other platform- please specify): Pillowfort: Jaetrix
Q: Why the Mad Max Fandom?
A: MMFR movie was incredible! It hit all of my sweet spots. And the fandom is great: really supportive people, creative fanworks, and great discussions. I've been playing around with fandoms online for a long time and I've met some awesome people, but the MMFR fandom is just chocked full of interesting fans and ideas (like this spotlight!).
Q: What do you think are some defining aspects of your work? Do you have a style? Recurrent themes?
A: Oof, I'm not sure. I think my style is a lot of conversation, and very little and very poorly written action? As far as themes go, I love referencing music. Music is important to me, so it usually influences my writing. I identify as a feminist and try to put progressive messages into my stuff. I try to write women who form relationships, live their lives, and drive the plot without having to play second banana to men. On a similar, I like writing/reading sex scenes that are fun and funny for the people involved - enthusiastic yes from both/all parties. (Unless I'm filling a fic request that specifies something else, of course.)
Q: Which of your works was the most fun to create? The most difficult? Which is your most popular? Most successful? Your favourite overall?
A: “Take the A Train" was fun because I love writing about NYC. But the stories in "Citadel City Serenade" have definitely been the most rewarding. I really like trying to fit plots and characters together, and it feels awesome when things snap into place. "Six-String Soldier" is my most popular fic, probably because I started writing it right around the release of the movie and it's shippy. Overall... hm, I think my favorite MMFR thing I've written might be "Metal Bars." I think I did a pretty decent mix of kid naivety and shitty oppression.
Q: How do you like your wasteland? Gritty? Hopeful? Campy? Soft? Why?
A: Hopeful, but realistic, I think. With everything that's going on in politics, both in America and internationally, and the unbearably awful reports on climate change, I need to cling to some remnants of hope or else I'll just lie on the floor and never get up. I love solarpunk! Reclaiming/recreating the world is what interests me.
Q: Walk us through your creative process from idea to finished product. What's your prefered environment for creating? How do you get through rough patches?
A: I write drafts, either as notes on paper or outlines in Google docs. I have a bunch of notebooks full of fragments. I do a lot of editing - I have a hard time articulating things, so it takes a number of attempts until I get it right (or at least close to right). When I get stuck, I read fic. There are so many talented authors who've produced so many amazing stories that it's pretty easy to find something inspiring.
Q: What (if any) music do you listen to for help getting those creative juices flowing?
A: Folk music! I have a couple of playlists on Spotify specifically for writing Mad Max fic.
Q: What is your biggest challenge as a creator?
A: Writing! Specifically writing something good! I'm not sure if this counts as a challenge, but I also struggle with self doubt; posting something that gets no attention really sucks and it's hard not to take poor reviews/no reviews as a personal affront.
Q: How have you grown as a creator through your participation in the Mad Max Fandom? How has your work changed? Have you learned anything about yourself?
A: I've never attempted to write something as long as "Six-String Soldier," or the whole series of "Citadel City Serenade," really. Trying to manage a couple of different timelines at once with different POVs has been complicated and fun. Because of this fandom, I've also been writing more articles for the Fanlore wiki and tracking down references/resources for preservation. I'm an archivist and being able to use some of my professional skills in fandom and even develop them has been sort of neat.
Q: Which character do you relate to the most, and how does that affect your approach to that character? Is someone else your favourite to portray? How has your understanding of these characters grown through portraying them?
A: I probably relate most to Max: tired, wants to be alone, many grunts. But I prefer to write the Wives. They're so fascinating, each in their own way. I love how distinct they are and yet how well they work as a team. The first few times I saw the movie, I focused on Furiosa as the feminist hero that we all needed, but the more I watched and the more I read, the more I realized just how courageous, intelligent, and yes, feminist the Wives are. Victory doesn't require fighting and heroes don't need to be killers. The Wives achieve so much over the span of the story without physically fighting.
Q: How do you translate various elements from the film, such as the theme of the importance of bodily autonomy and critiques of an oppressive ruling class, into a modern setting?
A: This is an amazing question, thank you for asking! MMFR portrays a reality that is uncannily close to our own - In fact, it might as well be a peek into our future. In my mind, there's not even much of a need to translate those elements/themes because oh god we're dealing with them right now. What I was trying to translate with "Citadel City Serenade" is the victory of the characters over those adversities. In MMFR, the characters participate in violent, bloody battle; in CCS, they start social movements. Which is something we can do in the real world! Marches, protests, grassroots activism in general are tools we can use - Music, art, hell even gardening can be parts of a revolution.
Q: Do you ever self-insert, even accidentally?
A: Nope! I'm far too pathetic to survive in the wasteland. Hopefully I'll just die in the initial blast.
Q: Do you have any favourite relationships to portray? What interests you about them?
A: Yes! I'm a shipper at heart, so I am all about the couples. My two favorites are Capable/Nux and Toast/Slit. I love having the women be the ones leading the relationships - not only setting the boundaries but also expanding the War Boys world into completely new territory. I'm also totally into male characters who are sexually inexperienced. Alpha male dudes are meh in my opinion - Give me someone sweet and enthusiastic, someone whose love is based on respect, someone whose enthusiastic about learning. I think Nux is firmly in the category of awesome boyfriend, and I like trying to figure out how to lead Slit in that direction. There's also the idea of redemption in their relationships that I find fascinating.
Q: How does your work for the fandom change how you look at the source material?
A: Hm, I think that I definitely view the film through a feminist gaze. It's entirely possible that MMFR is just an action film but that's not my take on it!
Q: Do you prefer to create in one defined chronology or do your works stand alone?
A: Why or why not?Bit of both! I just want to read, read, read - As long as the fics are well written, it doesn't matter to me if the settings are consistent. As far as my own writing goes, I get so many ideas for fics that it's not really possible to have them all exist in a single chronology.
Q: To break or not to break canon? Why?
A: The great thing about fanfiction is that it's transformative. To me, canon is the foundation, but you can build whatever you want on it. Hopefully I keep the characters close to their canon portrayals, but other than that, I like to mix things up. Also, a modern AU setting just fits so damn well in the Mad Max world. I think also that canon itself can be flexible. Death of the author and all that. Once media is out in the world, it'll be interpreted by the audience - and sometimes those interpretations are vastly different from one another.
Q: Share some headcanons.
A: I don't really have any! Since most of my stuff is AU, the headcanons are limited to those settings.
Q If you work with OCs walk us through your process for creating them. Who are some of your favourites?
A: I have a smatterings of OCs who populate the world as background characters: Vuvalini, milking mothers, and War Boys. I played a MMFR tabletop RPG a couple of years ago, and my character from that and an NPC she saved both ended up in 6-String. That particular War Boy (Stacks) now has a couple of fans and so I've been giving him more screentime, as it were. He's sort of interesting as a foil to Nux and Slit: those two have girlfriends to learn from, but Stacks is on his own as he tries to escape from the WB life.
Q: If you create original works, how do those compare to your fan works?
A: I do! I participate in NaNo every year. I think my fanfiction is better than my original stuff since I write, since the fanfic is intended to be shared and thus I have to write decently enough to get readers. However my stuff tends to be in the speculative fiction genre, so that's something my fanfic and original fic share.
Q: What are some works by other creators inside and outside of the fandom that have influenced your work?
A: There are so many! In Mad Max, @supergirrll, @redcandle17, pbp (@primarybufferpanel), @bonehandledknife, Tyellas (@thebyrchentwigges), and hell all of the Boltcutters are all really important; the early writers of Nux/Capable fics also really influenced and inspired my love of the characters and the ships. Spicyshimmy, an author in the Dragon Age fandom, has also been one of my favorite authors for years, and I return to her stuff regularly to see how awesome writing can be.
Q: What advice can you give someone who is struggling to make their own works more interesting, compelling, cohesive, etc.?
A: I struggle with this myself, so I don't think I really have an answer unfortunately other than read everything you can get your hands on, write everything you can think of. I write basically what I want to read; if I can make the reader!me happy, then at least I've satisfied one person. However, what I consider interesting, compelling, etc, isn't always what other people want. Maybe my advice is to try not to take it personally when your hard work isn't rewarded. Which again, I'm not always able to do.
Q: Have you visited or do you plan to visit Australia, Wasteland Weekend, or other Mad Max place?
A: Yes, Wasteland Weekend! It was a lot of fun and I'm hoping to go again. Being able to immerse myself in the world was a great experience - A totally new way for me to engage with fandom.
Q: Tell us about a current WIP or planned project.
A: Still chugging along with "Citadel City Serenade!" The two main stories in that series are going to intersect in a meaningful way soon. In fact, they're going to crash. Looking forward to getting that out there (and getting it done!).
Thank you @jaesauce
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So you're cool person & I hope I don't mind me ranting. I'm not a shipper, I love bleach w all my heart, I didn't care who ends up with who, but it was obvious & I like IH&RR. But this is not what I wanna talk about, I was looking at some Byakuya edits & suddenly realized that there aren't enough Byakuya material here, & I just realized that I loved him wholeheartedly, it makes me depressed that there aren't enough fans for him, I see lots of Ulquiorra fans, but majority of them of are shippers
2/4 So now I'm even more depressed cuz I realize that despite Bleach beings Shonen, the vocal minority are very loud about ships, & that's all they care about, I can't find normal bleach content unless it's ship related or bashing Kubo/series. Don't get me wrong, I'm not telling u ur doing smth wrong, I like the RR,IH,HH fandoms because u don't hate on Kubo like other parts of the fandom & I feel like I can get this off of my chest for you, cuz I won't be hit with a "bleach is about x&y ur stupid"..
3/4 I like hanging out on RR/IH. But I'm getting tired of seeing just ships, I can no longer go to the bleach tag w/o ppl hating/spreading hate/attacking ppl who liked the ending &consider the novels canon (like me). You can imagine how much I want the anime back so the nonshipper can crawl out & have smth to talk about w/o shippers calling anything OOC & whatever. I know this started as a Byakuya rant, I'm still sad that most art is shippy, I'm sad that ppl r more pressed about ships than the story
4/4Sorry if I bothered u with my rant, again I'm not hating on RR&IH, I didn't ship them cuz I didn't care about romance, but I do like both & hope that one day we will see them get more development in the anime & hopefully the hate will die for a bit. But I hate that the only bleach content I can get behind is these ships, everywhere I go I see the opposing anti Ku/bo side & their aggression even tho I don't hate their ships, but the amount of Bleach hate is ridiculous, that's y I come here 😞😞
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Hi anon!
I can totally understand you and whether you believe it or not, I totally agree with you.
Well, I am a shipper and at some point I made the main focus of my blog ship-related content just because I enjoy it and I like to talk about RenRuki and like the stuff others are producing for it.
But I totally agree that the shipping fandom is very vocal, especially in a series like Bleach- I don’t consider the romance aspects in Bleach as very important tbh. I enjoy my niche with RenRuki but I am aware that it is a super small aspect of the series and frankly, I think it is a very minor subject as a whole.
This is one reason why I don’t like to get involved with fanwars about the ships, because I am not sure what it’s so important to fight about the romantic couples. I can totally understand why people would discuss theories about the story itself, but couples are more about personal tastes. Of course, also I like stuff that shows Renji and Rukia together, and I like to interpret details with them but I know in the end that is not the core of Bleach but more a small hobby part. Even though my blog is mainly about my favourite ship, I am also a huge part of the series itself.
I too think that the shipping stuff in Bleach is way too overrated as a whole. I enjoyed Bleach as what it was- a shounen series, that had much of symbolism, fights and character development and much more. That was completely unrelated to which ship I liked. If RenRuki wouldn’t be canon I still would love that series with all my heart, that is why I can’t relate to people that burn their mangas or are so bitter that they attack fellow fans or Kubo himself over pairings. (tbh while Bleach was still running I believed that there would be an open ending, even though I would have thought that IH and RR would be heavily implied by the end).
I am not sure if that is site-related. On tumblr, the majority of content is pairings and shipping stuff, which is always and in every fandom connected with wank. I like the Bleach forum on reddit for that reason because on that site people are more discussing story elements and theories and only from time to time the shipping stuff comes up. I feel that the majority of people over there also do not like fandom wank and Kubo-bashing so it is a nice place to hang out for Bleach general content.
I also dearly wish that the anime will come back and animate the last arc, and actually NOT because of the RR content, but because this arc was awesome right?? A year ago I made a re-read of the whole last arc and it was so exciting I couldn’t stop reading. I want to see the fights animated, I want to see Renji’s new bankai animated, I want to see Adult Toushirou, the sternritter and so much more stuff.
Bleach is an exciting manga, and so much more than the pairings. And I totally understand that non-shippers get frustrated when it is all about shipping content and not about other elements too.
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