#neil being an absolute menace
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tazzy-ace · 2 months ago
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Meant to finish these gifs last week but technical difficulties on top of mental health made it not happen. With ep 6 of First Note of Love being released, I rode the hyperfocus yet again to actually finish a set of gifs for ep 1 I wanted to make (and that @dual-domination thought would be great). Highlights from ep 1 of Neil being a menace and getting dragged around before his victorious escape jsksjks
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I used an online gif compressor so that they'd be small enough to upload here on tumblr, so pardon for the slight graininess. I'm looking into uploading uncompressed versions on another site (tenor) and if that works out I'll end up sharing links here.
I am absolutely obsessed with this series and everything in it. Sometimes you show up for one actor and then the entire cast and plot just whisks you away. There will be more gifs to come and maybe, just maybe some music video edits too after the show is finished 👀
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thespineoftherighteous · 6 months ago
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he won't want to hear this from me but. andrew caring about exy and being in sync with the other foxes on the court is something soooo beautiful to me. that game he and allison spent idgaf-ing their opponents into a rage? incredible. him stepping in to protect matt from gorilla? showstopping. he and aaron being an absolute synchronized menace of a backliner/goalkeeper duo? nobody does anything like them. the way kevin and neil don't even need to be looking at him to know what moves he's making and how he wants them to respond? magnificent. him involving himself by giving the backliners advice? brings actual tears to my eyes.
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ashestoashes7 · 4 months ago
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Shortly after Neil and Andrew got the cats, Andrew texts Jean a picture of a cardboard cat with the attached message of ‘this is Sir.’ He provides absolutely no context, leaving that as the only visual Jean has to mentally attach to the cats. Jean believes him.
Jean now expects that when someone (in a very specific group of people) says they have a pet it will be made of cardboard. For a while, he thinks when Neil texts him about the cats that they have now become absolutely delusional and begun making Jeremy Knox level fictional stories and life updates for fictional animals. (If they are made of cardboard how did they break that? Stop using your cardboard cats as an excuse, Neil. You’re the one who ripped up that chair.)
This continues for a very long time, because Jean doesn’t actually say any of that to him because of conveniently being sidetracked, so when Jean meets them for the first time he just kind of blue screens. It hits him that these are real adorable animals who are not being a menace like Neil to him and the others are jealous the cats warmed up to Jean on his first visit so fast.
He tells Jeremy what he thought, and he absolutely loses it. Jean has never been so disappointed in everyone around him
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the-gay-cousin-666 · 2 months ago
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I love the idea of Raven!Neil being a absolute menace but would he really?
If he'd been sold of according to plan, he'd have been nine.
His canon behavior is so primed on freedom and autonomy because of half his life on the run.
But back then he barely understood that the violence against him was unfair and unjustified. It would have been from one abuser to another, further reinforcing to the malleable child brain that this is the normal.
Even if he did fight back, I'm mostly positive that the resistance wouldn't have lasted longer than Jean's.
Neil dug his grave unwilling to sacrifice his obsession in canon, where his literal life was on the line. It would have been enough for Tetsuji to tell nine y/o Raven Neil that if he wouldn't play for him, he'd never play again, and Neil would have put a lock on his own cage.
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meanbossart · 3 months ago
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Heya!
I want to preface this by saying I absolutely ardore your art - I'm not usually into very explicit NSFW but the way you portray DuDrow and Astarion just hits the spot for me. (I even created a patreon account just to subsribe to u lol)
Onto my question: In past streams Neil mentioned that he based some of Astarions mocap performance on a feral cat that lives near his home. Also at Last Light Inn Astarion seems to like the cat "His Majesty" a lot.
What animal would you associate with DuDrow? And how would he perceive being compared to said animal/react to the animal itself?
I personally vote for swan - those things are a MENACE. I think both swans and DuDrow terrify me on a similar level.
Have a good day! :)
Thank you so much for enjoying my work and for your support!!! 😭 I'm honored to be the porno-exception in your repertoire
I usually associate DU drow with cats as well, but a swan is very apt and I'm kind of surprised I hadn't made the connection myself yet (for those unaware, swans are aggressively territorial, shockingly big and a bit scary when you get close LOL also, they mate for life!)
He probably really likes swans for the reasons listed above and would be flattered at the comparison. As a low-key admirer of naytchurr I think he would be able to flip most animal-related comparisons into a compliment - unless you were to compare him to like, a yappy lap-dog, I guess.
BUT he'd be specially pleased with the swan likening! Catch Astarion starting to call him his little cygnet from that point forward.
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dan-i-am21 · 7 months ago
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“Out of everyone and anyone you could have compared him to,” Neil said, quieter than Jean had ever heard him, “you chose Drake.”
one thing about the foxes, they’re not going to hesitate to murder a rapist
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justsomeopinions · 7 months ago
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Some thoughts/comments on the Sunshine Court bc I'm going INSANE
- I have no idea how Nora manages to create characters I care so deeply about
- This bisexual French bitch is MY CHILD
- Despite the drama the gay players keep making me cry of laughter
- Like Neil telling the FBI that Jean got beaten for being a French idiot
- Is he autistic??? I mean when he finds out that Jeremy is gay he puts it in a very neurodivergent way (and Jeremy's "more exclusively than you" bc this guy is NOT subtle)
- Cat and Laila you have MY ENTIRE HEART
- "Jean knew better than looking at a man for too long"????? Kevin Day you better watch your back
- The frustration of people slut shaming him when he was literally SAd (good for him for saying he's better than the whole lineup without fucking anyone)
- Kevin and Jean being so complicated, but caring about each other above everything despite everything
- Jeremy absolutely losing his cool when he heard Jean say his name with the accent
- Jean thinking Kevin is sabotaging him for making him live with hot people is the funniest thing I've ever read
- I love Jean not hiding his attraction towards Jeremy
- Jeremy asking him to tell him if he ever feels unsafe (bc he knows about his history and is worried that Jean will be uncomfortable if he's attracted to him)
- And Jean only saying he doesn't feel safe when Jeremy was trying to get him to tell the truth about his injuries, IT KILLED ME
- And "letting go of Jean was the hardest thing Jeremy had ever done"
- Kevin was so much more sane from Jean's perspective lol
- Also Jean asking if Cody was safe
- When he looked at Jeremy after going to the salon and just said "blonde"
- Lucas is a fucking idiot, like not even bad, he's just stupid, I mean wtfdym BAD BREAKUP????
- "Drake was not a biter, then" MY MOUTH HAS NEVER DROPPED AS MUCH AS IN THIS SCENE
- And Neil immediately getting rid of the r*pist
- Glad to see Neil is still an absolute menace
- Anyway I can't wait for the second book, AO3 will be my bestie in the meantime
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kevinsdsy · 5 months ago
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saw u respond to another anon about kevin and i ABSOLUTELY LOVE KEVIN so i thought id drop this in here: hot take (I think?) but i feel like this fandom frequently royally misinterprets kevin. hes often interpreted as cold and not really having much outside of exy, but honestly i think that hes actually pretty sweet, but you just have to look closely for it. Maybe not in words, but rather, in how he uses exy a lot of the time to show how he cares, and relates it back to things that he's experienced in the world. Which, of course, because exy was literally his entire world growing up. I'd be a bit surprised if he out grew it, due to so much of his self worth being contingent on it. Its rather subtle, but its certainly there. For example, him fretting over what people eat. someone might interpret it as "oh, kevin's crazy obsessed with exy" but its more so kevin being concerned about his teammates health, and by proxy, his teammates.
IDK i just think hes neat and not quite as one dimensional as i see some people make him out to be. curious to see your thoughts :) have a good day!
when i tell you I AGREE SO MUCH !! i mean sure he can be a little bitch (<333 i say this lovingly i LOVE little bitches), but he is not cold. honestly if i had been stuck in the nest as long as kevin had i would have been a menace to society i fear and kevin comes out of that nest; not even knowing the extend of his trauma and he's soft.
i mean like i said in the other post, he's not necessarily soft with his words, but he is soft in his actions. he calls neil an idiot for saying he's fine after he gets hurt during a game and tells neil when he gets hurt he's supposed to take it easy and take care of himself.
when he finds out neil is the butcher's son and will most likely die by the end of the season he does not call neil a waste of time. when he recruited neil he was so determined to make neil court so when neil asks him: "will you still teach me?" kevin does not turn his back on him and promises neil he will teach him every night.
jean FINALLY gets out of the nest and without jean asking (jean would never dare to have asked or even think it a possibility) kevin finds him a new team. a team that's so opposite of what the ravens were. a place that's gentle and understanding and has patience.
not to mention this part from the extra content which is SO IMPORTANT to me and i should dissect all on it’s own one day because i swear there’s something about him keeping his books under his bed and pillow, trying to read as much as he can whenever het gets the chance that could be connected to love and tenderness
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dvrcos · 8 months ago
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I feel like Nicky is the one Wymack is most nervous to mic up, but trusts Matt & Dan enough to be sure they'll get something good from that. Allison, he knows what he's signing up for, so no one is surprised when she's as aggressive as Aaron. But I think it's Renee who surprises everyone (except Andrew).
When Renee gets mic'd up, everyone is expecting serenity. Peace. "Oh, that was a good pass" about the other team. "Come on, Foxes!" quietly chanted from goal. Maybe some prayers.
Instead, they get a constant stream, in a similar style to Andrew. They get screams loud enough the mic crackles. They get "YOU LITTLE BITCH" screamed at full volume multiple times. They get "Aw, the big baby got upset that the lil midget hit him? What are you gonna do, big guy? Cry and crawl back inside your mama?" when Aaron takes a swing at a guy twice his size. They get gamer-girl-playing-with-a-group-of-boys-who-don't-go-easy-on-her level trash talk. They get hopes and wishes for players to drop dead or go to Hell and burn for eternity. They get angry shouts. They get swearing with 0 filter. They get death threats. They get detailed fantasies about gutting people like fish or of where she'd like to break their bodies.
Wymack is shocked. The audience & fans are eating it up because Renee walks off court with a serene smile and is sweet as sugar. When the other Foxes watch it back, they're all speechless because.... is that THEIR Renee?????? Are we sure???? Because it's easy for them to forget she grew up in a gang & testified against her former found-family. Andrew is the only one who isn't surprised because that's the version of Renee he spars with.
Wymack decides Nicky and Allison can get mic'd up as much as they want. All of the cousins can get mic'd up again. But Renee is banned from doing it again.
Neil gifts her a bar of soap to clean her mouth out with.
THIS !!!!
This was an absolute joy to read and you’re so correct, I have no notes
I can also imagine her being like “thoughts and prayers” in the most passive agressive way possible. The Foxes win and she’s like “I’ll keep you all in my thoughts and prayers tonight, I know that was a tough one for you” and she has the most menacing smile ever that actually shakes the other team to their core.
Also Renee knowing like 101 ways to seriously maim someone and when one of the Foxes gets hurt she just shouts a number at them. She’s been doing it for a long time and none of the Foxes knew why. When they’re listening back to her recording they hear her shout a number and then mumble to herself what that maiming technique is. And they all are just like OH. So it’s a lot more intimidating and meaningful when they hear her shouting numbers on the court from then on.
Andrew very quickly memorizes the list as well and offers her his opinion on which one he would’ve used when she gets off the court.
“22 was a better option”
“Yes but 54 is more creative” And just smiles at him.
The other Foxes also start to remember some of what each number means. They feel especially honored when she wips out certain numbers in defense of them.
Renee shouting from across the court “34”
The Foxes “Oooo, you’re fucked dude. Good luck!”
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exy-shmexy · 2 years ago
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AU where Andrew has had an absolutely terrible night at Eden’s with clients being annoying pests so he’s driving home with nothing but anger and exhaustion in his bones, zooming through the streets of Columbia when suddenly something heavy hits his car.
Can this night just fucking end already? He unlocks the door to see what the hell that was, but an auburn-haired menace jumps in his car before he can get a foot out, and stares at him with an expression of pure terror in the bluest eyes Andrew has ever seen.
The boy, because really that guy is barely an adult, frantically asks him if he can take him to the airport, he’ll pay him however much he wants. Andrew is frozen in place, but then he sees the blood. He points at the guy who is becoming paler by the second and tells him he won’t make it to the airport. The guy blanches more. Andrew tells him he can take him to his house, his brother is almost a doctor by now he can do stitches. The boy is terrified, but he reluctantly says yes so Andrew drives him home where Aaron is indeed waiting because wtf andrew you’re so late. When he sees Andrew carrying someone else inside. Aaron is just this close to losing it but Andrew tells him to shut up and just stitch that guy up. Aaron asks what’s going on. Andrew says he has no idea this is a long day he needs whiskey, okay?
Aaron patches up the guy in silence while Andrew watches him work. The man is passed out on their couch, leaving blood on their cushions which is just great. He wakes up a couple hours later with Andrew and Aaron hovering above him and they ask wtf this is about. So the menace—Neil—panics and tells them he’s really sorry but he needs to go now. Andrew pushes him back on the couch and demands an explanation. Aaron suggests calling the police but one vicious glare from both Neil and Andrew is enough to shut him up.
So this is how the twins find out Neil is on the run from some very shady people who tried to murder him last night and he needs to leave the country to be safe
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ok555ficideas · 2 months ago
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Neil planing fake dates for Kevaaron
“So,” A loud voice took him out of his dangerous thoughts. “The first day you both have off in the evening is wednesday.” Neil said with a firm voice. 
Aaron knew that he shouldn’t have brought this side of Neil to life. He knew how dangerous this was, but despite Neil being an absolut menace to society more so than usual in this state, that was the Neil that made them finally become friends. 
In Aaron’s last year of college, Neil took it upon himself to repair their relationship. He had already made everyone else socialize and his efficient system made it easier to bring the freshman smoothly into the team, so he had nothing left to do. 
At least that was what Aaron thought at first. Neil said that it was because of Andrew. Supposedly Andrew’s goal was to get into a team that was closest to where Aaron was going to go to med school. Aaron didn’t want to believe that. Andrew and him had a better relationship than before, but his brother had chosen Neil over him after all, why wouldn’t he do it again?
Neil had to practically drill it into his brain that Andrew actually cared about him and therefore Neil would try to be civil as well. 
He was far from civil. He had barged into Aaron’s dorm unannounced time and time again and dragged him to stupid events that he knew Aaron would like and did everything to get to know Aaron better. 
Over time it turned out that the redhead wasn’t that bad and that Aaron actually liked talking to him. It also turned out that he was right. No matter where Aaron was going, Andrew was close behind. Finally they both settled down in Seattle and Neil soon joined them. 
“Are you even listening to me?” Neil asked, looking at Aaron annoyed. “You asked me to help yet, you pay no attention.” He added while crossing his arms and leveling Aaron with a pointed look. 
“Technically I didn’t ask for your help, you volunteered it.” Aaron said and Neil rolled his eyes.
“I can unvolunteer it and leave you with this alone.” Neil gestured to the whiteboard. 
Aaron looked at it terrified. Truth be told he had not done many of the planning so far and he was glad for Neil’s help. 
“Nah, you won’t. You’re in your element” he said, crossing his fingers that he was right. 
“Whatever.”
Part of Saving the Day
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calixcem · 7 months ago
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Some post Tsc thoughts! spoilers under the cut :)
I have so many annotations in this book. (668 to be exact), so im just grazing the surface of everything with this one sooo part 1 perhaps?
-Kevin and jean. Jeans unrequited crush on kevin. I need to know more about this and I hope Nora delves into the semantics in the next book.
-Also how this relates to Kevin day famously saying it was easier to be straight. I figured this was a common thought among the ravens or at least Riko’s court,but Jean doesn't mention it once throughout the entire book. He brings up his attraction towards men multiple times ,and there was never any denying it. It was just something he accepted, so how did Kevin get the idea that it was easier to be straight and Jean didn't? Did Jean ever think this way and eventually changed it down the line or what?
-Im a sucker for found family and Nora really delivered with this one. Laila,Cat, and Jeremy are making it known to Jean that they’ll always be there and genuinely want to help him. The dynamic between all of them is so tender and I think it’ll be so healing for Jean. 
-Also I hope we see more of the floozy squad in the next book! 
-I need them to convince Jean to try boba at some point, and i really hope his relationship with food gets better. I really love that he’s cooking with cat and I really hope it develops into one of his hobbies outside of Exy. Let this boy live a little!
-speaking of hobbies: Cat teaching Jean how to ride a motorcycle?? I just feel like it would be beneficial(not to Jeremy’s heart but thats ok) 
-This specific moment with cat and jean 
she ran down to the tide to rinse it off with childish glee. Jean obediently inspected it when she brought it back, and she tucked it into his breast pocket with a cheerful “For you!”
Small things like this just really show how much they care about him.
- What’s up with Jeremy's family?? I really want to know what happened to where Jeremy “tore them apart” like what was the scandal his freshman year??? It was mentioned briefly but then Jeremy just decided it wasn't worth mentioning again considering all that was going on? The biggest “im fine” in history fr. Also when Cat is telling Jean about everyone’s siblings she mentions how when you go over 4 kids there's bound to be one asshole, but she only listed 4. So did one of his siblings die?? I might be reading too far into this but! Or it could be that one of them cut off all ties to the family after something happened? I don't know but I’m excited to read more about it in the next book!
Jeremy has—three. One sister, two brothers. The older brother’s an absolute tool, but there’s bound to be a jerk or two once you pass four kids.” Jean idly wondered what she’d changed at the last minute and why,
- The constant touches everyone gives Jean to ground him and make him feel loved just makes me so happy. 
- also jean constantly touching jeremy’s chin to get his attention??? Hello? 
A hand on his chin startled him into looking up. When he met Jean’s eyes, Jean only said, “Focus on what’s important.” “I am,” Jeremy said. Jean opened his mouth, closed it again, and let go of Jeremy without a word. Jeremy snagged his arm when he started to turn away. “Who did this to you?”
This line in particular really hit me.
-just jerejean in general honestly. The way Jeremy genuinely cares about him and wanting to help him heal 
You are going to be my success story: Jean Moreau the person, not Jean Moreau of the perfect Court.
“Will you help me?” he asked. “Anything you need.” “A blank check is a dangerous thing to offer.” “Try me,” Jeremy said. “I can afford it.”
-neil. Bro was just being a menace and seeing him from an outsiders pov makes me realize just how unhinged he seems to everyone. But him ordering that hit on Grayson without a second thought? Iconic. As everyone else is saying he dropped by to serve cunt and then left. 
-Jean dropping the most poetic line about Neil and Andrew’s relationship and then just not thinking about it ever again is so wild lmao.
Jean noticed how Andrew and Neil moved like they were caught in each other’s gravity, in each other’s space more than they were out of it, cigarette smoke and matching armbands and lingering looks when one fell out of orbit for too long.
-The parallels between Jean and Neil and how they dealt with things. I don't know if you can really call some of them parallels but they are connected in my head bro. 
-JEANS SISTER. Oh this shit hurts from the faint memory we get to the end when we find out that she's dead??? Nora you're paying for my therapy oh my god. And when Jean is mourning her the snippet of the memory of stitching up her dress that she’d get caught in the blackberry bushes???? He genuinely loved her and just when he’d be getting to a point to where he’d feel safe enough to try to get in contact with her again to find out his parents sold her off and she died because of it???? Yeah bitch burn your family to the ground. I hope we get more memories with her in them. 
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kevinsbitch-panini · 2 months ago
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fanfic friday: aftg edition
i don't wanna keep secrets just to keep you by kirakrs (@kirakrs)
Summary: Kevin goes to California for his and Jean's interview. Andrew and Neil tag along. The Trojans have a cultural shock from the Foxes and find out more of the truth. Chaos ensues.
Tags: Post-Canon, Canon-Typical AFTG Warnings, nothing too graphic i promise just mentions, Friendship, Healing, Post-Book 4: The Sunshine Court (All For The Game), Soft Neil Josten/Andrew Minyard, Neil Josten Being Neil Josten, Neil Josten is a Little Shit, Protective Andrew Minyard, POV Jeremy Knox, POV Jean Moreau, Found Family, USC Trojans (All For The Game), Domestic Fluff, Canon Compliant, Protective Neil Josten, Neil Josten & Jean Moreau Friendship, Humor, Developing Relationship, between jean and jeremy ofc, Canon Continuation, maybe i focused too much on neil and andrew idk, i wanted an outsider perspective at them, Tags May Change, POV Outsider, nothing bad happens, Mutual Pining, Fluff and Humor, No beta we die like riko, Spoilers for Book 4: The Sunshine Court (All For The Game), Light Angst, Angst and Hurt/Comfort, Angst and Feels, mostly jean tbh, He's dramatic, no archive warnings cause it's aftg you know you warnings, but none of those warnings happen things just might get mentioned, Neil Josten is a Menace
Words: 18,372 Chapters: 2/?
THIS FIC HAS SPOILERS FOR THE SUNSHINE COURT. GO READ THAT FIRST.
i am not one to recommend wips* (mostly because i only read oneshots so i don't really read them at all) but this one is absolutely fucking fantastic!!! it's set post-tsc and it feels so in-character and everything that istg im just gonna believe this is canon till nora publishes the next book. andrew and neil look feral from an outside perspective, there are frequent reminders to speak in english, and the trojans are (rightfully) very confused and concerned. it's amazing and will probably make it into my top fave aftg fics
*i want to acknowledge that this post is queued like 2 months into the future. it may no longer be a wip by the time you are seeing this. currently this fic has 2 chapters so i wish you (and future me) a very happy time reading whatever is published btwn now and late august
also go look at the author's tumblr and ao3 <3
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stabbyfoxandrew · 3 months ago
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Guardian Angel or Dealer’s Choice, I absolutely love all of them (Vampdrew now knows that Neil wears contacts!) thank you
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WIP Wednesday (7/31) | Guardian Angel Neil AU (Part 211)
As if the universe can sense Andrew’s desire to meet up with his angel, the rain doesn’t let up for a single goddamn second. The rest of the weekend is filled with cloudy skies and thunderstorm warnings blaring on Nicky’s radio. Each and every time Andrew thinks the sun is finally going to come out, it’s vanquished by another set of dark clouds. 
The barrage continues all the way through Sunday night and at this point, it feels almost personal. But being trapped indoors does have its benefits. Andrew is now caught up on classwork and Kevin hasn’t begged him to go to the court since ‘driving in the rain at night is dangerous’. The only downside is being bored out of his mind.
Since yesterday afternoon, Andrew has: done his laundry, finished writing an incredible essay, read ahead in his Lit textbook, and baked brownies— which are already fucking gone thanks to the menaces he rooms with. Andrew scowls at the empty pan before shoving it into the sink and going back to his desk.
A bit earlier, Andrew had run out of things to do and resorted to a word search book he found in the bedroom. It’s Kevin’s, technically. But ‘finders keepers’ is apparently in effect, since Andrew saw Kevin eating his brownies earlier.
Thus, he snatched the book and the pen clipped to the front of it and brought both to his desk. He’s worked his way through at least a dozen of them and he’s not quite sure what he’ll do if he runs out of puzzles. He supposes he could join Nicky and Aaron’s Mario Kart tournament…
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void-and-virtue · 5 months ago
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Thinking about Andreil in that bus to Binghamton and just telling each other stories about their lives and Neil talking about the places he’s been while they watch the road pass by
It gets me because. Neil has this absolutely crazy life of being on the run and all around the world and it’s brutal and it’s hurt him so badly, but it was life and that means there was still mundanity to it. Little moments here and there that were maybe a little less overshadowed by the general menace of his situation (even when most of them were) that he can look back on and remember. Routines he used to have as the people he was pretending to be, living where he did, that were his norm for a while even as he was always changing again. There’s such a vulnerability in that, because yes, you can know the overarching points and general idea of him as a runaway, but it’s viscerally different to hear Neil tell it and speak fondly of back alleys and motel rooms he only spent a few days in at most yet still remembers.
He’ll tell Andrew about all the bad stuff, felt the relief of not having to edit it beyond his mom being alive (at this point in time), but in doing so he also talks about all these other things that (unbeknownst to him) are proof of life in the sense that they make him so very tangibly real by adding context and feeling and insight into his life and character. And that’s. That’s somehow more intimate even than sharing the violence.
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ninyard · 5 months ago
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ninyard, ur ideas are gold, ur social media au is everything to me, anything u say immediately becomes canon in my mind…
i must know ur opinion…does andrew vape?
I wrote about this before in the tags of some post somewhere but I can’t remember exactly what I said so if you find that and what I say now contradicts it no it doesn’t <3
I think if Andrew were to give up smoking he’d give up cold turkey. Like the most he’d do in terms of weaning himself off is maybe some nicotine gum for a couple of weeks or he’d hide a little nicotine patch for a little while. He keeps a packet of cigarettes hidden somewhere with his things for emergencies only - for just in case something happens to Betsy or Wymack and he needs a cigarette. Or if something were to happen to Neil, Aaron, Kevin or Nicky. If he quits before Aaron’s trial he’d be chain smoking for a week leading up to the day he’s on the stand.
BUT
That being said I can also picture him vaping if he did struggle to quit the cigarettes. But I don’t think he’d vape any of the nice flavours, though, I think he’s a menace who’d vape the nasty tobacco flavoured juice. His vape would also be one of those huge, obnoxious, boxy ones. And he’d be The Worst Person You Know Who Vapes. Vapes indoors. Vapes in your face. Absolutely billows those massive clouds just to piss someone off who asked him to stop.
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