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Naiad Telemachus (au comes from my beloved anon yet again-they can cook fr)
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I CANNOT draw seafood :D
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OMGGGG ME AND NAIAD TELEMACHUS????
This is so cuteeeee
I'm so glad to be one of your favs 😭🩵🩵🙌
I’ve been Hades pilled for the past week and have seen studying the art. So I decided to make some of my favorite artists here on Tumblr some presents.
Merry Halloween
Hope y’all like them @gigizetz, @irunaki, and @sloanslone
#epic the musical#epic the musical fandom#telemachus#naiad telemachus#me?????#OMG#this is so cute#thank you
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TIS FINALLY HERE! Naiad Penelope and Telemachus fic!
A huge, huge thanks to @kindred-spirit-93 for helping me out and giving me so many amazing ideas! The light of my life ❤️
If you guys decide to check it out, hope you have as much fun reading it as I had writing it.
#epic the musical#the odyssey#penelope of ithaca#penelope of sparta#telemachus#odysseus#odypen#odysseus x penelope#greek mythology#epic telemachus#epic penelope#epic odysseus#ao3 fanfic#naiads
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penelope canonically retreating to her room and refusing food = she puts on some weight, the reason being both lack of physical activity as well as her body being on constant emergency mode (so what little she does eat ends up being stored away bc the body doesnt know when the 'starvation' will end). whats more her constant stress elevates cortisol levels which in and of itself leads to weight gain esp in the abdominal area.
tl;dr chubby penelope send fucking t w e e t
#that is it that is the post#cortisol is also known as the stress hormone#helps u wake up & regulates metabolism among other things#it helps you cope with stress but too much of it (much like anything else in life) is not good for you and your health#this has been on my mind for so long#no im not projecting#shush#thinking abt her naiad heritage too#like maybe she can get through long periods without or with very little food but her human body's nutritional needs prevail idk#and then midnight snacks maybe lol#away from the piercing gaze of the wretched suitors and judgemental looks of certain maidservants#chubby penelope for the soul#penelope of ithaca#my beloved muffin#with razor sharp teef#give the cinammon roll some tummy rolls!!#BONUS: when ody comes home they both heal together and side by side#coming to terms with just how merciless the years have been#ody gains healthy weight after years of abuse in ogygia (i hc he purposely denied himself proper food bc thats the only agency he had#as well as the making urself undesirable to the abuser)#and penelope goes for swims and perhaps bonds with telemachus in a new way like races and swimming competitions aw#as well as teaching him some naiad stuff he probably inherited#family healing yay!#:')#btw not saying they go back to their 20 year old physiques#what i am saying is they now take better care of themselves and each other#and one of the ways its reflected is in their frames#i think we need more middle aged odypen art#and age accurate content in general#esp post odyssey
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I’m listening now to the Wisdom Saga. Think Telemachus being part water nymph might be an advantage to him during his first(?) sea voyage to find his dad 😉. Maybe he knows some friendly water nymphs who can help ensure a safe sea voyage. Or maybe he’s a really strong swimmer and the least likely to drown if he falls overboard. Or maybe he swims fast enough to quickly rescue anyone who falls overboard. And adding to your idea of him eating fish whole: maybe he can catch and eat whole fish raw, so he’s the least likely to starve at sea!
Yes and no, in a way?
Naiadborn (freshwater) ARE still with an advantage even at sea BECAUSE of all you mentioned. Also would have SOME (I do mean some) manipulation of saltwater surrounding the boat.
BUT being freshwater, being in the sea/saltwater long would be really really bad for them. Just like real freshwater fish. (Best case scenario is if they have a raft/surfboard and never have to touch the saltwater)
This gal kind of explains it but if freshwater fish are in salt water too long, they can't really filter the salt and so it dehydrates their cells and then they will die.
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The same would happen with saltwater fish in fresh water in a way, but instead, their cells basically get too engorged and then that's how they would die. (Why Achilles is really uncomfortable during freshwater baths :'( he feels sick/"bloated" afterward)
I guess you could say I want there to be a "power limit" or at least some difference between the different types of Water nymphs. As then, they would kind of be mini Poseidons/Gods/Goddesses (rule over basically all water).
So Naiadborn (depending on how much naiad blood they have in them. Telemachus would probably handle being in the seawater longer than Penelope because he has more mortal blood in him (37.5% Naiad, Penelope is 75%)) would need to have areas where they can soak themselves in freshwater for their scales while at sea.
BUT Naiadborns CAN gather seawater and basically filtrate it enough so they never run out of drinking/soaking water.
If Penelope were to say, leap into the sea as she sees Telemachus'/Odysseus' ship returning so then she can see them right away, she'll be uncomfortable and will need to soak in freshwater for a while as soon as she can, but she still can do that.
Nereids COULD possibly see a naiadborn on boats/in the water and then help them out if they see their cause and/or Poseidon is not angry. BUT there's also only 50 of them and they can't possibly be everywhere at once along with their usually duties/daily lives
I'm still working out some things with how my nymph lore works but that's some of the basics :)
#Mad rambles#shot by odysseus#naiads#Water Wife#my headcanons#ask#cjbolan#penelope of ithaca#telemachus
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WATER WIFE SPOTTED!
@dootznbootz
"Deep down I would trade the world to see my son and wife."
#odysseus#telemachus#epic the musical penelope#epic the musical telemachus#penelope#odypen#the odyssey#epic the musical fanart#epic the musical odysseus#Water wife#naiad ears
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Fun fact! Odysseus is double related to Hermes (and once a bear)
His paternal great-grandfather is Hermes and we know this however his father Laertes had a grandfather named Cephalus and who was his dad?
Hermes again.
But it's all cool because Cephalus had sex with a bear who had Arcesius who had Laertes.
Conclusion?
Telemachus is only about 60% human with others being 25% naiad, 9.4% pure Hermes, and 6.25% Bear.
#telemachus#odysseus#epic the musical#I feel like we should talk about odysseus' bear grandma more#hermes
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Warrior Penelope stuff cause I've been listening to too many EPIC genderbent covers, and I wanted to give my take on it (also cuz I kinda want to draw it one day)
- Ares as Penelope's patron, absolutely! But Ares didn't have a huge cult in Sparta, although he wasn't hated. So my lore take version thing is that ATHENA wanted to be Penelope's patron (she had already an eye on Ody kinda) but Ares saw his chance, got to it first and became attached to Penelope without wanting to admit it, also because she saw the good and useful in him. Athena still watches over Penelope (especially after her and Ares platonically break up, which she finds really stupid) and is the one who does her best to protect Ithaca while she's gone. She's by Ody's side while he misses his wife and is mostly the reason why the Suitors hadn't taken over yet.
- To get Ares to realize his mistake, Athena tricks him into helping Telemachus defeat Antinous in Little Wolf because free bloodshed, only to end up sensitized by Telemachus because holy shit, my friend's son is here almost dying to this ASSHOLE who thinks he's so much stronger than MY friend the queen and even me like who tf does he think he is. Athena makes Ares fucking rational for once. And maybe even Aphrodite, as well, gets some damn sense in his mind like "they love each other like you and I and my girl is doing her best to get home you're going to apologize rn"
- ctimene holds a claymore double her height with no problems
- penelope is more "cold ruthless" than Odysseus, in a way that she's still poised (until the end or when she's really brought to her knees which is disturbing) while doing merciless stuff. She's emotionless a lot more (just on the surface)
- Ares was the one to give Penelope the idea of going to war instead of Odysseus, for obvious reasons. And Pen is really a mastermind among the Greeks ofc
- Ares and Pen fought in their My Goodbye version because she "held back her power while her friends got devoured" "she didn't even fight Polyphemus, didn't even TRY to kill him" "hid behind her wits to get things done". Because when fighting Polyphemus, she knew that if she tried to kill Polyphemus while he was asleep, they'd be stuck in that cave forever (like in the real Odyssey). And knew that fighting while her friends got killed would slow them down and probably get more people dead. And when they ran away, she didn't go back to kill the Cyclops even if she could've because of yes, mercy, but also because she would've awakened all the other Cyclops and sailing away was faster, better. Ares deemed this cowardice. Crazy thing, since one of the most important things to him is courage.
- Ares overstimates Penelope's power. Like, yes, she's exceptional, but still HUMAN. With her limits. He hasn't dealt with a human personally in years so he doesn't understand this, so his expectations are ridiculously high, which ends up breaking Penelope.
- During 600 strike, Penelope can actually breathe underwater and not hold her breath for such a long time and be fine because she's half naiad (yes, they are fresh water nymphs but still). Also this may make her even stronger around water (to a certain degree, she's still very mortal)
- calypso is pansexual
this is already a lot, ill add more when i think about it lol (also if i realize any of these ideas don't make sense)(check reblogs for more)
#epic the musical#greek mythology#ancient greek mythology#penelope epic the musical#odysseus x penelope#penelope of ithaca#penelope#penelope of sparta#odypen#tagamemnon#epic the musical athena#epic the musical penelope#ares#ares deity#ares greek god#ares god of war#ares epic#epic the musical ares#ares greek mythology#trojan war#athena greek mythology#athena goddess of wisdom#epic athena#athena epic the musical#athena epic#athena#telemachus#telemachus epic the musical#warrior!penelope
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I am in your walls…
- naiad Telemachus anon
Aahhhhh pls don't kill me 🥺
#slone asks#epic the musical#epic the musical fanart#artists on tumblr#jorge rivera herrans#the odyssey#epic the wisdom saga#etm#odyssey#telemachus#epic telemachus#epic the musical au#telemachus of ithaca#naiad#naiad telemachus#work in progress
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BABY BABY BABY BABY <3 also dw its just athena's blorbo aura lol
aw, what a cute married couple
#SUNNY IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL FOR UR ART TO BE THIS FUCKIN CUTE AND PERFECT AOUGH#telemachus#my bebe#epic the musical#telemarketing#oh my boy sweetest joy ive known#papa smurf lookin ass#naiad muffin#ithaca fam#my beloved
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i just want to to let you know that it was your art of vil with kid jack and leona with kid epel for that single parent leovil fic that really pulled me into leovil. i stumbled upon it by chance when scrolling through a vil blog and saw it reblogged and LOST MY DAMN MIND. particularly baby wolf jack. cause why am i now putting together an epic the musical/odyssey/illiad au for leovil?? (your art. your art is why) itll probably never escape my docs but. so far??
helen and penelope. cousins and princesses of sparta--their dads are brothers and co-ruled. penelope's mother was a water nymph (naiad, so freshwater) whereas helen was the daughter of zeus......soooo.....HEAR ME OUT!!!!!!
neige as helen. vil as penelope. now, i was originally gonna go the rkvl route, because that line in the challenge, when penelope tells the suitors she will marry whoever "can string her husbands old bow and shoot through 12 axes cleanly"--smth her husband odysseus was only able to do, well, a rkvl version of that could go SO HARD.
esp cause like, idk i could just give rook a random kingdom, cause yes, leona is a prince, but technically falena would be king. and i thought of making them menelaus (leona) and agamemnon (falena) with VIL as helen, i mean, come ON!!!!!! it would be SO GOOD!! but odysseus and penelope's story was just tugging at my heart, and i couldnt decide. until i realized that actually this is a fic and it doesnt have to be a 1 to 1 substitution, i can play around and do whatever i want.
(and jack as little wolf telemachus is everything. and neige as helen, both "fairest of them alls" and cursed via apple??? i love it)
sooooo. im thinking.
vil and neige are cousins, princes of. pyroxene? or maybe pyroxene would be made up of a few kingdoms....hmmmmm...idk yet. regardless, their parents' co-rule their kingdom. but neige is the actual heir of the throne. this could be because vil is technically illegitimate. eric had no wife, he just really wanted to be a dad. and so vil's mother, for purposes of this, is either a vampire or a water nymph, or some sort of enchantress, idk, but regardless, vil isnt going to inherit. (also read @pinkbeeps sympathy for the villain fic and lost my mind over it so, yeah, crewel is a vil dad, so at some point when vil and neige are 7 and 6 respectively, crewel and eric get together.)
meanwhile, sunset savannah was split by a civil war? or a revolt of some kind. leona and falena stop it, but part of the truce that is made is that falena cannot rule all of it. so the elephant graveyard half, and some surrounding land makes up what becomes leona's kingdom. why? idk.
then, when neige is like, 17, vil 18, and leona 20, its decided that neige should get married, so all the suitors from various kingdoms come. cause, heir to the throne. and fairest of them all. falena, who is now married himself and has cheka, suggests leona go, but leona isnt rlly looking to get married. falena bugs him abt it tho, and leona still isnt for the marriage thing but rationales that princes and infleuntial people from all over will be vying for neige's hand. leona can go, but not for purposes of throwing his hat in the ring, (neige is an heir and leona has a kingdom to take care of--neither of them would leave their respective homes) but rather, to make connections to better help his people.
and then he meets vil. guy is SMITTENNNNNNN from the get go, he's like, whoever was giving out the fairest of them all titles, did they like, not see you???? heLLO??????
vil is warming up to leona, but also, lets be real, vil has an insecurity abt being a backup, second option when it comes to neige. he would have been wary considering leona is here in technicality as a suitor for neige. but it becomes apparent leona was not here for that in acuality. cause leona, in true oddysseus fashion, does not even bring a wedding gift, guy was just here to network and then fell in love.
it goes as the story always does. neige's parents are worried abt the influx of suitors and wondering how to choose without angering one kingdom over the other. and leona is like, hey i got a solution, but if you want it, you gotta put in a good word for me with vil's parents, your brother and BIL, and you gotta convince them that its okay if vil marries. and theyre like DEAL.
leona proposes his solution--the oath made by all suitors to defend neige and whoever he chooses if a rival ever takes neige away. they would march against the offender and destroy their city.
neige's parents are like damn thats brilliant and then talk to eric and crewel. who put forth a test for leona to pass. he does.
they marry, leona's wedding gift to vil, the living olive tree bed he makes himself, and they have jack and epel, idk how, surrogates? adoption? not sure. but then, the apple, neige is taken away, and that oath comes back to bite leona in the ass. he pretends he's crazy to dodge the draft but baby jack gets tossed in front of the plough and leona saves them, and is forced to go to war etc etc. they win, and then it takes him FOREVERRRR to get home, and then--well we know how it goes!
wow. sorry for just. dumping this in your ask box. i was just trying to appreciate your art and i ended up dropping the au inspired by your art in here. oops
Alright, let’s process step by step cause this ask just made me go wild when I read it. /p
[deep breath]
First, thank you very much! 💕 It’s always a delight to know that more people are into leovil because of me 8D I feel like a priest in Age of Empires (big old ref here ha ha)
Second, your Epic/ Odysseus/ Illiad AU.
I was flabbergasted cause, a few days ago I saw a new leovil fic about Epic the Musical (yes, I do have an open tab of Ao3 on my phone with the leovil tag that I refresh almost every night. When I say I have an otp, I have an otp.) and, since the name rings vaguely a bell, I asked my theater kid friend about this Musical. I just wanted to listen to it before reading the fic and then, I understood Epic the Musical.
AND
YOU CAME.
:’D
I take that as a sign.
Thank you for sharing those thoughts, that was great! I wish you the best for your AU and hope you write it and maybe post it! Otherwise, it’s fine! No pressure of course, I’m already glad with your ask! x3
Anyway, here for you. I couldn’t help sketching those. They imposed themself. Literally.
Pretty sure Vil’d start to poison the suitors too.
#answer#twisted wonderland#vil schoenheit#leona kingscholar#leovil#kid Jack#kid Epel#epic the musical#Odysseus AU#my my Vil would be a prickly Penelop lol#long post
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“I wonder if he's got any latent naiad traits from Penelope” may I present Odysseus ‘you could not get me back on a boat because Poseidon hates me’ and his son Telemachus ‘I have naiad blood so all the children of Poseidon just think I’m Neat™️.’
They go over to visit Menelaus one day just to let him know like hey! Your ole pal from the war is back and alive! Yippee!! And Telemachus is having the time of his life and odysseus is shitting and crying by the prow
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Epic Telemachus HC's because i am bored and i cant post any drawings of him (yet) because i havent finished his design
|• He draws alot to pass his time. Before the suitors came, he used to draw designs for Penelope to weave. Which resulted into his scarf, the last thing she weaved for him before she had to make the shroud bluff
|• Telemachus, every year, makes a hyper realistic drawing of him, his mother, and his father while waiting. Why? Because one, he needs something to pass the time. Two, he wants to get better. But on the other hand, its never finished. Because he doesnt know how his father looks.
|• he's actually a master of sarcasm™ and Vicious mockery™ but locked in during little wolf because he knows he cant bitch tongue his way out of this one
|• he has long hair and ties it up. Fight me.
|• growing up with drunk suitors around, he does not know romantic love. But he is oh so very aware of lust. To him, because of lack of understanding and lack of anyone teaching him about it, he sees lust and love as two very similar things. And listening into his parents in WYFILWMA he is contemplimenting wether or not he should barge in and stop anything from happening
|• self esteem issues from the suitor's. Oh come on i cant be the only one that sees this???
|• you've seen Trans!Telemachus headcannons. Now i propose, genderfluid!Telemachus. Gender is a social construct. Fuck you
|• remember the scarf i mentioned in the first point? Telemachus wears that thing EVERYWHERE. and he refuses to take it off. A reminder of who he is and who he thrives to keep safe
|• he has His mother's eye shape but with Odysseus's sharpness. Does that make sense? No? Yeah ill post a drawing of their eyes later idk
|• he needs friends everyone. His only friend all his life is a fucking dog (no hate to Argos he's amazing)
|• inherted some of Penelope's naiad-like features. Really good swimmer. Fight me. (How many Times had i said fight me in this post?)
|• his Naivete is his weapon. He uses how he seems like an innocent boy as an advantage for a long time. But it kinda shattered during little wolf.
|• Peisisarus was his gay awakening. And Nausicaa was his Bi awakening. Guess what he decided on? Date both. And both decided hell to the yeah
|• when training with Athena, she realized how much and how little he resembled his father.
|• Athena suggested he used a spear, because he seems to be better at is (she meant a sword is too heavy for him!)
|• remember his Athena cosplay during Odysseus? Yeah. Thats a magical girl transformation and his "diplomatic mission" was him meeting Peisisarus and Nausicaa and also his magical girl training arc/hj
|• Telemachus never needed "the talk". Listening to whatever drunken blabbers the suitors had gave him understanding. From that he hated sex and shit. But he got the talk anyways
|• During his time with the suitors, he was almost taken advantage of. But he was lucky enough to escape.
|• also in that time period, watching those men get drunk gives him a hatred to any type of alcohol. He refuses to take more than half a cup of wine.
|• Telemachus tries, he really does. But nightmares always comes and he just feels the need to guard his mother's Doors again. And when he Heard noises from inside, he goes batshit and feels anxiety, sadness, and dissapointment in himself. Until Odysseus walks out hearing him and gives him hugs
#telemachus#epic the musical#epic#headcanon#their my babies your honour#Telemachus is NOT an “innocent little baby” you guys call him as#odysseus#penelope#maybe angst???#mild angst#family#my babies#i have free will#school is killing me#mentioned athena#athena#cosmic profanity#bad words#peisistratus#nausicaa
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He does Pottery in mine :)
Since Odysseus is into carpentry, Penelope is into weaving, what do you think Telemachus' art thing will be?
#being 37.5 Naiad helps with water and working with clay :) he likes finding and working the clay himself.#telemachus#tagamemnon#odyssey#greek mythology
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“Fair Penelope, princess of Sparta, daughter of the ocean naiad Periboea, mother to Telemachus and husband of Odysseus.”
I know that when people do warrior! Penelope AU's, they typically go for Ares as her patron, but I think that Aphrodite would also work well, maybe even better than Ares!
Perhaps you'll even read a fic about this au... Or maybe four?
#epic the musical#art#digital art#fanart#i love shading#original designs#i guess#au#penelope of ithaca#aphrodite epic#warrior penelope au#sorry for the inactivity ive been working on an au#swap au#areia! penelope
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Penelope & Athena headcanons because a certain moot (yes it's YOU @dootznbootz) infected my brain with them :)
Athena knew of Penelope before Odysseus, as she is the patron of Sparta and has been watching the Spartan royal lineage for the longest time.
Weaving is Athena's love language, and she weaved with Penelope a lot as the princess grows up. Don't tell Artemis and Persephone this, but Athena enjoys this activity with Penelope more because she is actually skilled with it and is delightful to teach.
In the Hyacinthia festival, women would offer their woven chiton to Apollo. Athena would not shut up about how Penelope's chiton is the prettiest out of the bunch and Apollo rolled his eyes like, "Yeah, yeah, I know your human is the best weaver. How about I give you her chiton???"
Aside weaving, Athena also trained Penelope in sport and some fighting skills. As a girl, Penelope isn't required to undergo heavy military training, but she still must participate in physical training to stay fit.
They play a lot of petteia (an ancient Greek board game). Penelope is smart but never stood a chance against the goddess of wisdom herself, but she's too competitive to give up. Athena very much indulged her lmao
They talked about their family a lot, from their sisters' silly frolics to their brothers' stupid antics. Penelope is one of the few who knows how much of a gossiper Athena actually is.
Mutual understanding over bystander's guilt. Athena witnessed Persephone getting kidnapped as a young goddess and Penelope saw Helen getting stolen away as a child. Both failed to save them and had dreamt of being able to do something, anything to stop the tragedy.
Silly arguments about whether saltwater or freshwater is better between half-Naiad Penelope and half-Oceanid Athena (Metis was an Oceanid and Athena had lots of connection with the ocean)
One time Athena took Penelope to the mouth of the Eurotas River at the Laconian Gulf to settle the debate by swimming and... taste testing the water.
They finally found a common ground in deciding that the brackish water at estuaries isn't actually as great as they thought. And so they decided to respect each other's opinion.
In another universe where Odysseus never came to Sparta, Athena welcomes Penelope to become her priestess.
Despite not having the best relationship with Aphrodite, Athena still brings herself to ask the goddess for tips and helps on how to matchmake Penelope with Odysseus when she found out her two pets are smitten with each other.
"Do you think I just start a fight between them so they get to speak directly?" - "Athena, sweetie, just no."
A lot of people joke about Athena thinking Odysseus gave birth to Telemachus via his head because that's how she was born, but we don't talk much about Athena's potential hidden trauma of her father swallowing her mother before that.
Even though Athena knows Odysseus would rather die than hurt Penelope, there's a tingling intrusive thought at the back of her head that she should keep an eye just to ensure the smallest of chance wouldn't happen.
When Penelope went into labor, Athena dragged Artemis to support her. The composed goddess lowkey panicked when her pet human is giving birth lol
Penelope called Athena by her epithet "Soteira" (Saviour) two times in her life: when Helen was stolen by Theseus and when Helen was taken by Paris which led to Odysseus having to leave for war.
It was a half desperate cry for help, half bitter sarcasm that The Saving Goddess could not save those whom she claimed to watch over, and not to mention Athena was part of the Golden Apple drama that eventually led to Helen being given to Paris.
Athena was immensely guilty for having a hand in the events that led to Penelope having to watch her husband depart for war and Telemachus having to grow up without a father. She tried to spend as much time where she wasn't participating in the war as possible to help out Penelope in raising Telemachus, basically becoming a temporarily stand-in parent for the boy.
Another reason for Athena's constant involvement in Telemachus' upbringing is that, deep down, she didn't want the boy to grow up half-orphaned like she was.
Penelope asked Athena why she didn't make the suitors suddenly choke on their food and die. Athena replied (for the 7635th time) that her father is the Lord of Xenia and her doing so would not please him.
Penelope: We can stage it like an accident.
Athena: I already told you, I cannot violate my father's domain!
Penelope: You started a rebellion against your father but draw the line at making a guest die because it'll disrespect him???
Athena: ... Be quiet.
#that's all i have for now#might add more later if i got creative again idk#penelope#athena#odysseus#telemachus#greek mythology#greek heroines#greek goddesses#greek deities#greek heroes
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