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Let's be crystal clear. Queerbaiting is real. But it occurs when the creators intentionally hint at a queer relationship to lure in a queer audience to give them money, but never actually follow through on their heavy-handed implications of a queer relationship. Queerbaiting does not occur when the creator has been transparent from the very beginning that Malevolent is about friendship and platonic love, meant to work through the toxic masculinity they've lived throughout their entire life, and to express healthy platonic love (and sometimes unhealthy love) between two male-presenting characters. It is not queerbaiting when they emphatically tell each other that they love each other, because love isn't exclusively romantic, and while it is absolutely okay for people to ship them (and something that the creator is totally FINE with, btw), it is not okay to accuse the creator of lying about their relationship when he's been clear about it from the very beginning.
Friendship and platonic love is just as meaningful as romantic love and that's the whole point of Malevolent.
#i'm hearing that there was another queerbaiting accusation floating around but i personally haven't seen it#but i've seen other folks mention it#and i want to make my stance crystal clear on this matter#and also as an ace person i find it very insulting that people would reduce the importance of platonic love#and suggest that platonic love is lesser than romantic love#because it's not#and also fuck you#ugh sorry i just felt upset when i saw rumors of this accusation#because it feels like their wish of their ship becoming canon completely overshadows the importance of platonic love#malevolent#spiteful musings#heavy on the spite today#okay now i'm gonna take a shower bye
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post-wipeout patch up on a tuesday afternoon (embarrassing) [electric guitar]
#stardew valley#stardew valley fanart#sdv sam#sdv maru#my art#i like these two together#and i don't know if it's more like “i ship them” or “these are my two favorite characters and i want to see them interact a lot”#because in every fandom i've ever been in i've never really been much into shipping (it just never scratched that itch for me)#but their ship name being electric guitar is pushing me that's just cute!!#at the very least they can bond over their shared interest in space :)#i think this ship would also cause a good amount of in-universe drama#“what if ur bisexual and both ur male and female crushes started dating each other what would you do” “happened to my buddy penny”#(eh i honestly kinda ship penny with haley so it's all good hehe they're cute too)#(side note: i also like alex and seb together. you can get a lot of drama out of that over their polarized stances on eggs)#(everyone else ur on ur own lol good luck!!)
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when i got on twitter and said if katara had killed yon rha, zuko’s opinion of katara’s core character wouldn’t have changed (we even see that the split second shot of him seeing her blood bend) but aang’s would have- THEY NAILED ME TO THE FUCKING STAKE YALL! they hated jesus because he told the truth!
#I am absolutely not wrong#everyone on twitter is so stupid and I’m right and that’s just the truth#like aang looks at katara through rose tinted glasses and when he shows who she really is he backtracks#katara intentionally does not show that side to him and even said out her own mouth she knew he’d never understand#zk you guys will always be the better ship#I will not change my stance on that#zuko#katara#zutara#atla#anti kataang#look I’m tagging correctly guyssssss
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they would have so much potential for gentleness in their dynamic after all their deeper complex-clashings would demand further vulnerability thus trust and understanding...
#im going kkkrkkdjhdhsjjs#👍#laishuro#laishiro#toshiro nakamoto#laios touden#dungeon meshi#delicious in dungeon#also they could so have it all#like the strenght of this ship is definitely the funny bits but arhhhgggsgghhh they could be so vulnerable#no actually i change my stance the strenght is their potential for vulnerability and the psychosexual shit their most deranged parts create#between them
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the way the fandom (and canon!) treats Nico versus Meg is so amusing to me given they have like one year between them at best. Meg in TOA is older than Nico in TLO. Why is every 13 year old in TOA babey when Nico is treated like the hottest emo boy who needs to enter a relationship Right Now or he'll Die but he only just turned 14. Meg is even shown to be basically equivalently powerful to a Big 3 kid. but she needs to be chaperoned meanwhile Nico at 11 is just let loose on the world unsupervised after beating up a ghost
#pjo#toa#trials of apollo#riordanverse#meg mccaffrey#nico di angelo#to specify my stance on this: i think Meg should be given more agency/written slightly more like Nico#cause yeah no 13 year olds are just like that#(also i have nothing against nico shipping i just find it very amusing that people LOVE shipping nico but nobody ships meg)#(like. theyre the same age....)
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One of my many favourite scenes from Of Saints and Sinners by @morningstarwrites!
This one being from chapter 18 in Heaven, but don't worry - I won't spoiler too much, so you can go ahead and read it yourself! 😊
#For those people who wondered what my stance is on the Alastor shipping#There ya go! 😆#Though i do like the pathetic TV man with all my heart as well#don't look at the date please#It's a shame how long this has been sitting in my Fanart folder without being posted!#hope you like it!#Let me know if I should do more Fanart for fics#i have a lot of ideas#my art#hazbin hotel#radioapple#duckiedeer#osas
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reposting this bc the OP blocked me (and is blocking anyone else who disagrees which means blocked people can't reblog) and i want to say this loud and with my whole chest!!!!!
another Dragon Age fic was recently outed as being AI, and this is what the writer had to say for themselves about it:


so actually, Grammarly uses generative AI and is just as bad as ChatGPT. it also objectively makes your writing worse, it sucks the voice out of your prose and turns it into corporate sounding homogenized paste. it's also unethical for all the same reasons any generative AI is unethical. get a writing group and have a real human beta read for you if you don't trust yourself to check your own grammar etc. but honestly something unpolished and written entirely by your human brain and human imagination will ALWAYS be better than AI slop.
also, the part about published authors doing this is patently untrue. i know this is a huge problem in the self-publishing space, but most publishers now are including clauses in their contracts that expressly forbid the use of AI in ANY part of the creative process. this includes using ChatGPT to generate or clean up outlines or Grammarly to spellcheck and revise. so if you're trying to publish, don't fucking do this or you could literally be asked to return an advance if you get caught.
i've posted about this in the past, but AI detectors are actually shocking accurate these days. i've tested them extensively recently and they can consistently and correctly flag individual sentences written by ChatGPT in an otherwise original passage. and they almost never flag false positives. so the argument that AI detectors can't be trusted is just flat out wrong. are they correct 100% of the time? no. but can they indicate with a high degree of accuracy if AI was used in some capacity? absolutely, especially if there is additional evidence.
and for all the people hand wringing about AI detectors flagging false positives, let me just say this: if something is not AI written it is very easy to prove. you can't write anything of any considerable length without leaving a massive paper trail of notes and drafts. almost all writing software tracks changes and makes it very easy to prove you wrote something yourself. being falsely being accused of AI isn't actually a real problem and is only being made to seem as such by people who are trying to get away with and justify using AI or who are worried about getting caught.
i think a lot of people are just lured by a seemingly easy shortcut, and to their untrained eye, what the AI is spitting out feels "better" to them than their own writing. but i promise you it's not. trust your own brain and put in the work to improve at your craft rather than outsourcing the gift of your imagination to a robot that steals from other people's work.
i will continue to die on this hill!!!!!
#this isn't about solrook or shipping wars or any other dumb shit like this#this is about AI use in creative writing and my opinion on that won't ever change#i'm not in that solrook discord idk what OP is talking about#this isn't about brigading or bullying it's about taking a hard line stance against AI use#calling out AI isn't “starting drama” it's about upholding fandom to a certain standard#this literally isn't about ships AT ALL#ship whoever the fuck you want#just don't use AI#AI critical#ai discourse#ai slop#gen ai#fuck ai#chat gpt#grammarly#fanfic#fan fiction#fanfics#fanfic authors#archive of our own#ao3 fanfic#fanfic writing#dragon age#dragon age fanfic#dragon age fan fiction#dragon age fic#da fanfic#dragon age fanfiction#da fic#anti ai
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Photo Opportunity
Ext. J Edgar Hoover FBI Headquarters M: Scully, you've got to take a photo of me here!
TXF Fanart ☆ MSR Fanart
#the cop meme#the iconic mulder stance#x files fanart#the x files#fox mulder#dana scully#mulder and scully#msr fanart#txf fanart#msr#The Mother-Ship#my art#I like drawing dumb shit
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me tryna follow a blog entirely unrelated to shipcourse: pretty things yaaay :)
blog entirely unrelated to shipcourse: proship/neutral/anti-anti dni
me: >:(
#bro you literally upload icons and dividers. literally why do you give a shit#you can't even make the argument that people are gonna make certain things “shippy” THERE'S NOTHING TO SHIP#same with a lot of stim shit for us autistic folks. literally why do you care what my stance on shipping is#i just want the pretty gifs man#i ain't gonna be your friend i just wanna reblog your stuff BECAUSE I LIKE IT AND YOU'RE GOOD AT IT#like do you really think i'm gonna bring discourse into everthing?? do you think people are that one dimensional lmfao#proship#op is a proshipper#proshippers please interact#profiction#proshipper#proshipper safe#proship safe#sandwich rants#anti anti#neutral ship#shipcourse#ship discourse#shipping discourse
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Lots of people moved over to bluesky from Twitter recently, and they have a thing of blocklist. Where someone can make a list and if you subscribe, you block everyone in that list so it's easier than blocking individually.
There are a few antis block lists, and sometimes people will be put on lists they don't belong on by accident.
I have seen so many people complain about being "accidentally" put on anti list just to click on their profile and them to have "proship dni/proship fuck off" in bio. Or "anti lolisho/proship dni" list and them having it clear in bio that they are thoes.
It wasn't an accident they were added. It isn't a mystery why they were added. It's very clear why, but they are acting like they were blindsided, and the person making the list must be wrong. If you have proship dni/proship fuck off in your bio you will be added to anti/proship dni list.
"I have proship dni in my bio, but it MUST be an accident that I was added to a list of people who also have proship dni in there bios"
Oh heavens.
#i fuckin love the bluesky blocklists#im not explicitly proship on there#or do anything ship related haha#its solely for my furry shit#but i do like blocking antis#proshippers against censorship#jackal barks#proship please interact#proshippers please interact#proship positivity#proship#proshipper safe#proshipping#proshipper#anti anti#ask#asks#pro stance
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mgs doodle dump + 2 shitposts i shoould like. organize these somehow. i wont but i should
thank you @counterfeitubiquity for helping me ID and also letting me steal one of ur memes
#ashenart#big boss mgs#venom snake#kazuhira miller#solid snake#revolver ocelot#does anyone else show up enough to justify being tagged.... no#mgs#metal gear solid#I HAVE things to say on a couple of these actually so welcome to my tag commentary its nice to have you here#1] i dont give a shit about bb and venom as a ship i just think the bad bitch i pulled line was really funny#the 2nd meme was inspired by the fact that i saw someone do it with kaz and i went like that fits bb like way more. dont read into venom he#the funniest guy to put there#official ashenberry stance neither kaz or ocelot are twinks but again. funny fucking sentence roll with it#oh yeah theres enough here to justify a#vkaz#tag. awesome enjoy
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Ok so this is going to be my attempt to put all of my thoughts about Silco and Vander and their relationship and how they might achieve reconciliation into one coherent post because I cannot! stop! thinking about them!
As we see in s2e7, reconciliation between them is definitely possible. However, I think it definitely wasn't easy, and it wasn't motivated by a single event like Silco finding Vander's letter or Vi dying. I think a million little things needed to perfectly align for them to find back to one another. As others have already said, and I agree with this, I think the "happy" timeline is a statistical anomaly for them.
So what was needed for them to find back to each other? And like, disclaimer that this is obviously only my own interpretation of events.
First of all, I think one of the prerequisites for reconciliation is that Silco doesn't start working with Singed and doesn't get into Shimmer, which is supported by his eye having healed normally in the alternate timeline.
I also think that Vander's letter could only ever be a starting point for their reconciliation, something that would get them in the same room to talk again. After that, I think they'd still need a long, long time to get back to how things were.
Vi's death imo has absolutely nothing to do with whether they reconcile or not, because in the alternate timeline she dies during what would be Act 1. Silco is already past the point of no retunr here, he doesn't give a shit about Vi or the other kids, he's deep into his Shimmer business. He's literally planning to kill all the kids in episode 3. He would not give a fuck if Vi died in that explosion. If Silco and Vander are to reconcile, it needs to happen pretty soon after the betrayal.
But I think the most important aspects for their reconciliation are violence and ideology.
Obviously the actual betrayal is horrifically violent and traumatizing. Vander actively chose to drown Silco which is just like, such a brutal way to die. He does this because he puts the blame for the bridge fight escalating on Silco. This is unjustified, and the show wants us to know that Vander was in the wrong here. Vander himself admits in s1e3 that he has regretted what he did to Silco since it happened. In general episode 3 in my opinion very clearly communicates that Vander overreacted and that what Siclo did (throwing the first molotov) does not justify Vander's reaction (violent murder).
However! Vander also clearly still thinks Silco is dangerous and despite regretting how he reacted still puts some form of blame on Silco.
In the apology letter, he says the blood is on both their hands. The letter in general is shit considering the weight of what Vander did, and what it shows is that even though Vander feels bad about what he did, he does still put the blame for the bridge fight on Silco.
In act 1, Vander also says there are worse things than enforcers in the Undercity while looking at his brace that covers the scar Silco gave him while escaping. This is, presumably, before he knows Siloc has been funding Shimmer development and getting into human experimentation. He thinks Silco is worse than enforcers based on whatever happened between them in past. With s2, this is explicitly Silco's escalation on the bridge.
So obviously despite the time that has passed and the fact that Vander can admit what he did was unjustified, he does still believe Silco is dangerous based on their differing ideology. Benzo, too, obviously still holds a grudge against Silco for what happened.
So really the crux is that even though Vander feels sorry, he does not change his stance on non-violence being the right way forward for the people of Zaun, and thus he can never truly forgive Silco for what he did on the bridge - he still believes that Silco is responsible and that his own way is the right way.
I think as long as Vander keeps his ideological stance, reconciliation between them isn't possible. From both sides, because Vander thinks Silco's ideals are dangerous, and from Silco's side because he thinks Vander is a coward and a sellout.
Then let's look at Silco's side of things a little bit.
I think there's two aspects to his forgiveness/reconciliation with Vander: the violence and the ideology.
Canon pretty much tells us that Silco is willing and able to forgive the violence Vander inflicted on him. We see this not only in the alternate timeline, where they're obviously close again, but I think s1e3 tells us the same. Silco kidnaps Vander, but still offers him the chance to join him in the fight against Piltover again. I don't want to talk here about Silco's methods at this point in time, but he's obviously willing to put the murder attempt behind them IF Vander is willing to switch to his side again. He even says that his hatred for Vander passed with time. I think this implies that, somehow, eventually, with time, in a nicer timeline Silco could really forgive Vander for trying to kill him.
However, and I think this is the much bigger issue for them, there's still the matter of ideology. Vander betraying their shared goals, turning towards a pacifist, more passive approach to revolution and ultimately striking a deal with Grayson is what really drives the wedge between them.
This is what Silco despises Vander for: For turning his back on violence. Silco encourages Vander's violent tendencies, he wants him to become the person he used to be again, wants him to embrace that part of himself again. I think this supports the assumption that Silco would forgive the violence inflicted against him much easier than Vander abandoning their shared dream. Until the end, he wants Vander to embrace that violence again.
And a Vander who is committed to non-violence is a Vander who stands in the way of Silco's goal of a free Zaun. So as long as Vander stays firm on his ideological stance, Silco is always eventually going to get rid of him. There is no way for them to find back to one another if they remain on opposite sides of the struggle they used to fight together.
This is, I think, the crux of my interpretation of them:
Reconciliation doesn't only depend on Silco coming back to Vander and forgiving him for the violence Vander inflicted upon him. It also depends on Vander coming back to Silco, internalizing that the bridge figth was not Silco's fault, and being willing to compromise his non-violent ideology and take action again for their shared dream.
It's about the two of them coming back to each other.
#arcane#silco#vander#zaundads#(tagging this as ship because i ship them in all their violent fucked up glory and i wrote this post with a somewhat romantic angle in mind#vanco#i hope this is at least somewhat coherent and i managed to convey my thoughts on this#long story short i think the question is not whether silco could forgive vander (he could)#but whether the two of them could realign their ideological standpoints#really whether vander could admit he was wrong about not only trying to drown silco but also about changing his political stance#before silco goes off the deep end for good and reconciliation becomes impossible#also with the alternate timeline episode showing us a peaceful zaun and canon showing us how ultimately useless vanders inaction was#i think we can infer that a big part of that au is vander and silco learning to work together and taking political action#which imo can never be entirely non-ciolent if it's supposed to be successful#anyway! that's all thanks for reading please don't come for me if you disagree
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#14! silvil sweep!!!!!! finally!!!!!!!!!! ive actually wanted to draw this for them for Ages as an actual picture but iii dont have energy#im not rly a ship art girlie. im a lore art girlie. i like the conceptual stuff i like funky compositions w symbolism#anytime i get into a ship and hafta provide food for it its so HARD. if i ship something all i wanna do is lean into concepts instead grrrr#none of these doodles are ship specific. stating again to be oh so clear. but i did wanna draw this scenario anyways so this is the closest#my scrunklies. silver can improve vils fighting skill. his stance. his form. he can improve at acting in silvers wheelhouse i think its NEA#twst#twisted wonderland#twst silver#vil schoenheit#sry this one is late my friends happened to be in town so we last minute had dinner together. i laughed a lot it was nice#suntails
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the episode didnt broke me, i broke the episode
#inanimate insanity#inanimate insanity 2#inanimate insanity ii#ii 2#ii 18 spoilers#ii mephoj#mephoj#yoko doing a mephoj post after episode 18 🤣😂🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂🤣 what a loser it will never be canon#but seriously we dont need to force a ship to be canon#its the crews choice whether they wanted to make it canon or not#payjay wasnt my cup of tea since im more of a mephojayer but i have a neutral stance for that#ill just pretend that paper is in an exterior angled polyamory relationship with mephone oj and floory where he dates only oj 👍#you good?#im trying to make the payjayers at least proud#okay now right onto the character tagging#ii mephone4#mephone4 ii#mephone4#inanimate insanity mephone4#ii oj#oj ii#oj inanimate insanity#i will rewatch the whole season of inanimate insanity someday#and hey remember that we still need exit interviews of balloon and cabby? itll probably made soon i hope#ill keep the inanimate insanity fandom alive by posting a lot of content since i just recently joined the osc in goddamn 2024#off-topic but i wheezed by the fact that the spanish dubbing team didnt had to dub the noises mephone4 made after being plugged in s3e18#i… didnt word that in a different way#long tags
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Hey! Do you think there’s any chance they might not make Romione canon in the upcoming HBO series because of the popularity of other pairings and JKR’s somewhat recent statements concerning the ship?
fair warning this is gonna be a long post!
you know anon, i’m not gonna deny that the possibility of romione not being canon in the hbo series doesn’t keep me up at night HOWEVER COMMA-
I believe romione will be safe because i’m placing a lot, if not all, of my faith in the upcoming hbo series being repeatedly described as a "faithful" adaptation of the 7 novels. which we can deduce to mean romione friends to lovers slow burn endgame and all that good stuff (maybe i'll talk about the potential of book romione and the serial tv medium some other time)
and sure, it can all be marketing/pandering/etc. but i find it so hard to feel cynical about hbo because i love LOVE their shows and i'm of the belief that they know how to tell a good ass story (and romione happens to be a good ass romance subplot). i also have such positive feelings about the showrunner Frances Gardiner (consulting prod on succession and also has killing eve under her belt) who JKR chose herself and one of the exec producers of the show who's set to direct of a bunch of episodes Mark Mylod (succession, the menu, tlou, got)!!!! and if you know me at all you'll know that succession is one of the main pillars of my personality and i fucking love that show so bad I would follow anyone who was part of the making of that show off a cliff if they asked me to. and Mark Mylod is a fantastic fucking episodic director who's directed and produced some of the best episodes of television ever, so i know he knows how to tell a good story. and though i'm a lot less familiar with Gardiners' work, she is a female creative who has some of my personal favourite episodes listed in her imdb (chiantishire, living+, tailgate party) who's pitch of the show made joanne give her the job so.... and y'all know im a canon bootlicker and love the books so all i'll say is.. real recognizes real.
so knowing the creative team behind hp series had a direct hand in making my favourite show of all time gets me so excited and giddy!!!!
but here's where my personal theories and speculations start: I really think with this hbo series, JKR is on a mission is create something wholly and newly hers. she was barely involved creatively in the production of the movies until DH pt. 1 and 2 and the movies have almost become an entity of its own that's drifted so far away from her. of course i realize me even just talking sympathetically about JKR is deeply touchy and might piss some people off but as a fellow creative, i feel for her man!! when i think of the best books in the series in my opinion that are filled with the best bits of world building and political commentary, what i find is that GoF was handed to a director who didn't even read the book, OotP was the shortest movie in the franchise despite being the longest book and how it entirely missed the Quibbler plot and all of harry's rage, or HBP that was filled to the brim with *chefs kiss* tom/voldemort lore which was done a complete disservice in the grey and brown sludgy mess that is the HBP movie.
and knowing that JKR now has a strained relationship or had a falling out with most of the top dogs involved in the films like Kloves and Yates (hallelujah what who said that) and Emma Watson and Daniel Radcliffe means this show has the chance to be a behemoth that’s entirely joanne’s, like the books are. it’ll be free of Kloves' Hermione and harmony (harry x hermione) favouritism or Watson's take on Hermione's character that makes my ass itch or Yate’s complete inability to direct his actors and make non-action scenes have heart, soul and heft. but i also can’t not address the elephant in the room: this section of the discussion is filled with every shade of grey possible because what led to the falling outs was that they all vehemently disagreed with JKR's anti-trans views and good on them they absolutely should! but like.............. i hated kloves' writing and his butchering of ron's character, i think yates is a static and boring director and im not a fan of emma's acting so like... a win is a win? NO IT'S NOT. but IT IS. BUT IT'S SO NOT. but do you see what i'm getting at???
the point i'm trying to make is that joanne is not the same person she was when she was first writing the books or when the movies were being made. I think she's a lot more ruthless and cutthroat now and while i disagree with her methods and condemn her transphobia.... i think this newfound hardness to her will lend itself to making the hbo series the best HP adaptation it can be, I'M SORRY it's absolutely fucked and i acknowledge and abhor her gender critical politics as a queer woman but im also an artist who just wants good, high quality stories to be told 😔😩
and as for the other popular ships and JKR's somewhat recent comments about romione:
I think its safe to say that joanne dgaf about this fandom and what's popular in it anymore LMFAOOOO 😭😭😭 i genuinely respect that she's always stood ten toes down about how draco's not some antihero, bad boy love interest and at best is a cautionary tale on prejudiced bullies, so I don't think that's changing anytime soon. especially considering that the dramione cottage industry that its fans have made is more or less a reactionary "fuck you" to joanne and canon which they do by writing fanfic about crimes against women and making merch and binding physical copies of said fanfics (really showing it to the big baddie transphobic DV survivor by *checks notes* auctioning hermione off as a sex slave) so I doubt she'd ever consider other ship's popularity seriously. as for the possibility of harry and hermione becoming endgame um..... if the show plans to faithfully adapt the books then we'd get harry and hermione’s quintessential sibling dynamic plus we’re already free from Kloves (also i have faith in francesca and mark knowing that harmony are just plain BORING) so i think the chances, again, are low. and if joanne really wants to stick it to her old colleagues, she can go down the route of pushing romione that much harder (and she really wouldn’t have to do much, it’s all in the books already) 😭
as for the comments on romione that she’s made in recent years, i think a lot of it’s been blown out of proportion or have gone through a terrible game of telephone. what she said (paraphrasing here) about ‘wishing she’d handled ron/hermione differently because a lot of what went into them was a wish fulfillment fantasy’ has turned into ‘jk rowling regrets making romione endgame???!!’ which is just *takes a drag from a cigarette* just another tuesday around here. i also would link to two meta posts by @saintsenara on the topic of endgame romione which i wholeheartedly agree with it
all i have to say is that going into making this show i hope joanne remembers that she based ron’s character off of a person in her life she liked when she was younger and who is still a good friend of hers now 😭😔
you guys probably know i’m in animation school which is basically film school in a different font. so i’m quite literally training to one day work in the story department on projects and work alongside writers, directors and producers, so this stuff means a lot to me! she and the creative team behind this upcoming show have the chance to make something really special and i’m finding it hard not to root for them!!!!!
#jesus christ i need to learn how to shut up#romione#harry potter#harry potter tv series#harry potter tv show#hp tv#anti dramione#anti harmione#anti harmony#oops! i think i’ve made my stance on non romione ships pretty clear so this shouldn’t come as a shock#jk rowling#hp meta#harry potter meta#toorumlk#nusreplies
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“I want proshippers to tell their parents theyre proship” i did and they didnt care (my mom started talking about her crush on walter white)
#proship#proshippers are valid#proshippers interact#proshipper safe#proship interact#btw my moms a 64 year old chinese woman with a successful career who probably makes tripple what you antis do#not all proshippers are gooners who live in their parents basement#in fact my mom actually agrees on my stance on shipping soooo
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