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Thief king to Mariku be like: 🥝 - I feel the need to protect you 🍍 - People need to put some respect on your name 🥒 - Great sense of humor 🥦 - Let's take a walk through the woods 🥬 - In love with you tbh 🥔 - I just think you're neat 🧅 - I'm so glad we're friends 🌰 - Let's cuddle by the fireplace together 🍒 - Probably a great kisser
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"While I don't require your protection, it is very touching for you to offer it. Honestly, I am very flattered. You can't just throw these compliments at me and not expect that I retaliate in a certain fashion."
His grin grew mischievous and he bend down towards the other to scoop him up in a deep kiss, letting the moment linger for a bit, before he pulled back.
"So? Was it everything you expected and more?"
It was really a joke to overplay the fact that somebody had just honestly confessed their love to him, because he couldn't possibly give the Thief back what he was so readily giving...
Guilt and that damnable sadness swirled through his gut. He had no way to express feelings like that.
#crimsonandgoldthieves#ic#ask#canonically on this blog#my muse is aromantic#but that doesn't mean that he doesn't care about thief
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Helpful diagram of what it feels like to write romance as an aroace author
#bro is my muse atp#'movement' and 'sunlight' made me understand love#hozier#writing#aromantic#asexual#fanfiction#once upon a witchlight#d&d#d20#good omens#legends of avantris
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I am making my friend watch the new Superman show with me and we just watched the most recent episode with Doctor Ivo. At the end, Jimmy is sad because his two best friends walk off all romantically into the sunset. I think nothing describes difference between the aroace and allo experience better than our very different responses to that scene.
My response was that Jimmy’s needs as a friend were clearly being disregarded in favor of the ��more important” romantic feelings developing between Clark and Lois. And despite him shipping the two of them, it doesn’t change that it always hurts when you get third wheeled or left out by your closest friends. But I was confident that once the romantic tension settled and the three of them had a chance to talk, Lois and Clark would start making space for their friend again.
Meanwhile, my allosexual friend’s response was that “they need to give Jimmy somebody.” That the way to cure his sadness was to give him a romantic partner. Which was a response that shocked me, considering that my friend is very on board with my desire to maintain our close friendship after their marriage while not pursuing a romantic relationship myself.
And I cannot stress enough that finding a romantic partner cannot be the only solution to feeling sad when your best friends get together. What kind of message does that send to asexual or aromantic people? That you will lose all your friends to romance and you won’t have any fulfilling relationships yourself unless you also get with the program?
I am curious to see which direction the show takes this, but Jimmy seems like a prime candidate for either ace or aro representation. I hope that this can be a moment to help people untrain the knee-jerk response that romance isn’t a one-size-fits-all solution to relationship ills.
#mae muses#my adventures with superman#jimmy olsen#i love my best friend dearly and know that they are just picking up what the narrative's putting down#but it was still a shock to me#i really love him and would love to get some aroace rep from him#also i get that jimmy interrupting the romantic moments was a running gag#that was inevitably gonna end up with him getting hurt#the show could've shown a more nuanced response i think#cause up to this point jimmy has been teasing them both#so a mix of hurt and happiness would have been appropriate i think#asexuality#aromantic
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#no hate to him I love this professor so much he's great#but my dumbass did NOT get this lecture at all#I'm not completely against romance in movies I'm just very particular about them#like if it doesn't make sense to me I just don't like it at all#and the film we watched (La La Land) did NOT have a romance that made sense to me#at least they didn't end up together I guess#aroace#aromantic#aro#meso's musings
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Julian + Loneliness + Love: an essay
BASHIR: Wait. Quark, did you really mean all that? About Dax being my one last chance for true happiness?
In Change of Heart, Season 6, Julian really latches onto these words from Quark, leading us to half-a-season of having to painfully watch him become re-obsessed with Jadzia. Here, I’m going to examine how Julian perceives love – particularly romantic love -- as being that one, impossible-to-get thing that could actually make him happy, and why he might think that way about it.
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First: a couple of things I learnt about in therapy that I think are pretty relevant to how Julian does life.
(Please note I am not a professional – my therapist is wonderful and I’ve tried to re-research this too, but I might well have misunderstood or forgotten something, so please don’t just take my word on it! The descriptions of the concepts are also rather simplistic in the interests of time.)
Drive, threat, and self-soothing systems
In ideal conditions: we will be seeking out satisfaction from our lives through our drive system. There will be things we want in life that will give us purpose and make us happy, and we’ll move towards our goals because we *want* to.
At times, we’ll face things that are difficult, and when we are in danger, our threat system kicks in to warn us of it and get us away. The old fight-flight-freeze-fawn thing; our limbic system takes control, so that we don’t waste time *processing* things and thinking through everything logically -- we need to get away from that sabre-toothed tiger automatically, not stand there thinking about it!
Once the threat has gone away, our soothing system kicks in to neutralise the threat system. As we go through life, we learn from our experiences how to better self-soothe, and gradually add to that system.
However, it doesn’t always work out that way and my best guess is that Julian’s system is going to be heavily threat-based with very little soothing.
I imagine that post-enhancements as a kid, he did manage to develop his drive system, finding things he enjoyed doing and chasing after them just because he wanted to. However, his parents’ very high expectations probably meant that even then, his threat system was conditioned to think of *failure* as a threat, and so even from a young age, Julian’s threat system has been highly active in being a driving force behind his ambition - undermining his *actual* drive system.
Then, of course, he learnt about his enhancements, meaning that he becomes preoccupied with not being discovered -- and from this moment on, his threat system is pretty permanently activated. He seems to find some relief in distraction: escapism through books, in his work, in tennis -- but he doesn’t have a way to soothe this threat, only ignore it.
By the time he arrives on DS9, I believe he has a few things in his actual drive system, including wanting to help people and seeking adventure. But he is also so used to his threat system being engaged that he doesn’t even notice how driven by fear he is -- and his soothing system is an absolute wreck, with minimal coping mechanisms.
Attachment style
There are four different attachment styles, as pictured above. These influence how you form and manage the relationships in your life -- in the image it says “partner”, but it’s also involved in your friendships and families.
As warned, this is a little simplistic, but basically your attachment style is formed by having a warm, consistent and loving relationship with your primary caregiver in infancy. Julian very much didn’t have that, and we know that from when he was very young he “knew he was a great disappointment to his parents” -- so I think it’s very likely he would fall into having a fearful attachment style, with both low self-esteem, and low trust in other people.
(Having a secure attachment with your caregiver also helps you develop good soothing strategies for your threat system! Another reason why his is so depleted…)
Attachment styles can change and improve, so I think that during his time at DS9 (maybe even during the Academy) as he begins to gain experiences of friends who do consistently choose him and with whom he is safe, he probably moves more towards the preoccupied category. But I do not think this man has ever made a *really* secure attachment in his life. 💔
I also don’t think he has ever examined this too deeply? Maybe after DBIP, hopefully some of his friends might have gone “that was a super fucked-up childhood you had there”, but I figure he probably attributes the way he approaches social situations to his autism (which due to his parents’ ableism, means he thinks “I’m doing socialising wrong and everyone else is doing it right so I should listen to everyone else and do it their way regardless of how I feel about it”) and so he doesn’t realise that actually his fear of being rejected and his craving for validation through meaningful relationships -- if he even recognises those feelings for what they are -- are unhealthy coping mechanisms that he could learn to shift into something more positive if he had the time and space and help of a professional.
His relationship with Palis was almost definitely a victim of this, imo. Even if he doesn’t realise it, he’s terrified that she will inevitably reject him (having a ridiculously catastrophic secret doesn’t help with this assumption, but being fearful-preoccupied also just lends him to believe that people are inevitably going to reject him) and so he makes his excuses and leaves her first.
Amatonormativity
Even if I hope that the 24th century is less amatonormative than now, I don’t think Julian has necessarily been able to benefit from that. Given how ableist his parents are, I don’t think it’s too much of a stretch to think that they might be queerphobic too, or at the very least dismissive of any lifestyle that isn’t the same as theirs.
In addition, on DS9, his best friends are Miles O’Brien (who has always been very vocal about how happily married he is) and Jadzia Dax (who had been as happy as he was to be flirty and single and not tied down, until she found her One True Love, and got married), which wouldn’t exactly help discourage the notion of “romantic love = marriage = happiness”. So I think that Julian has definitely internalised all this, and – especially since he’s been taking cues from those around him how to act and what to think about social situations his entire life – he accepts this whole “you need to have a partner” thing as true for him, just because it’s been true for his friends.
I headcanon Julian as being somewhere on the aromantic spectrum, too (hovering around WTFromantic) -- but crucially, he has no idea. He genuinely struggles to tell the difference between platonic and romantic feelings and guesses how he feels a lot of the time, but since he doesn’t know that he's guessing, he really believes he's in love. And because he has never connected the dots that he’s aro, he assumes the disconnect between *his* experience of love and everyone else’s is just down to his autism, and therefore everyone else is right and he needs to follow their lead in finding happiness through romantic love.
We also know that he really likes old books like James Bond. (I headcanon that he finds pre-1990s fiction safer, because there is no chance that the villain is secretly going to be an augment all along, or any other anti-augment prejudice or micro-aggression in them.) So despite being a 24th century guy, he becomes steeped in these 20th century views -- and with him trying to figure out all the time what’s a “normal” way to act, both in a “not-an-augment” sense and a “not-autistic” sense, he’s internalised a fair amount of “what love really is” from these books which, like, isn’t always great to say the least.
Season 6
QUARK: You know what's really sad, what really keeps me awake at night? She's out of reach because we let her go. BASHIR: I suppose so. But some things just weren't meant to be. Evade. O'BRIEN: Julian, are you sure you want to-- QUARK: Chief, please. You know the rules. No coaching during a round. You're probably right. But what if that's a convenient rationalisation? What if deep down in our heart of hearts we both know she's something unique, something we may never see again. A chance at true happiness and we let her slip through our fingers.
And so we come back to this conversation. Quark is manipulating Julian to win the game of tongo, but whether or not he knows how deeply his words will cut, they leave a lasting impression upon Julian.
Quark calls Jadzia “a chance at true happiness”, but when Julian repeats those words later -- despite his perfect recall -- he describes Dax as being his “one last chance for true happiness”. And this, I think, is what really gets to him.
We’re deep into Season 6 -- Julian is not “happy”. He’s become depressed, despondent, weighted down by the war. It’s not been long since Statistical Probabilities -- is he watching the casualty count grow, the war continuing exactly as they had predicted for the time being? At this point in time, “happiness” feels like a pipe dream for him.
How long has it been since he has truly had a long stretch of contentment? Most people put it at pre-Dominion-camp, right? So he had a pretty long stretch of being happy and (incidentally) in a relationship with Leeta from the end of Season 3 until s05e07, and then a few months later, he was kidnapped – which makes me think that if he’s thinking back on the “good old days” of DS9, it’s quite likely he’s thinking of a time when he was in a relationship.
Julian comes from a background of believing that no-one would accept him for who he is. Even in Statistical Probabilities, among his friends, O’Brien and Sisko and Worf all openly discuss how augments should have restricted access to general society. And that’s just the augmentations: he also knows that his personality can be annoying and off-putting to many people. So he thinks that it would take an extraordinary person to actually like him and want him.
> Back in Season 2, when he was talking about Palis, he said “Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night and I think to myself, will I ever find anyone that wonderful again?” Quark describes Dax as similarly unique -- and I think that strikes a chord with Julian, causing him to think “I lost Palis, I’ve lost Leeta, I’ve lost Dax -- how many more extraordinary people can there be? Dax really was my last chance.”
Julian doesn’t properly understand his feelings. He’s used to relying on other people to help him figure out what they are and how he should react.So Quark asserting that Julian does still feel attracted to Jadzia and does resent Worf and that he should have tried harder with Jadzia is something he accepts. (Just like later on, when Vic tells him he should be moving on, he accepts that very easily, too.)
> His preoccupied attachment style and fear of loneliness also means that he gravitates towards social interaction and people being friendly to him. After this, and particularly after Jadzia’s death, he starts having a bit more time for Quark: Quark’s inclusion of him in this “we both like Jadzia and resent Worf” club does provide him with some of that relationship-ness he needs, and even though he isn’t quite on the same wavelength as him, Quark is making him feel seen and understood, so if he’s lonely and there’s no-one else, he’ll probably seek Quark out that bit more.
>> And come to think of it, we’ve definitely seen Miles leaving Julian behind at the bar (with no-one to talk to but Quark) to go home to his wife and kids, just reinforcing the people-with-relationships-get-to-be-happy thing.
So yeah: Julian’s actually feeling some really big feelings about his loneliness and unhappiness and wanting to feel better, but he ends up projecting all of this onto his lack of a relationship, and more specifically, that Dax is probably the last person he’s going to come across who would accept him so completely.
Which sucks, and is a really toxic attitude. We don’t see it change the way he treats Dax on-screen, but even so, there is a sense of misplaced entitlement: he’s entitled to be happy and therefore he should have been entitled to have Dax. And I hate that for him. But he really is deeply, deeply afraid that without being in a relationship with her, he’s never going to feel genuinely happy again.
(Yes, he has friends, and he enjoyed spending time with them, like in Take Me Out To The Holosuite. But remember -- his threat system is constantly on with his fear of loneliness, and he doesn’t have the skills to actually soothe that fear and put it to rest. What he can do is use his malformed coping mechanism of distraction -- distracting himself with his friends and holosuite games and so forth. And no doubt they do give him some true satisfaction and validation -- but since he doesn’t have an internal source of validation, he’s lost when they can’t provide.
And additionally, when they can’t provide it’s often because they’re in a relationship. In the beginning of Chrysalis this is made super obvious, when Miles can’t hang out, and Kira and Odo are going to Vic’s together, alone, and he just ends up in bed working. Until 3am. I can’t help thinking he was somewhat trying to avoid being alone with his thoughts.)
And then Jadzia dies. And he has to refind his footing in a Daxless world and I can only imagine that he just accepts the depression is here to stay forever now.
Season 7
And now Chrysalis happens and firstly: I’m not here to make excuses for him. Chrysalis was pretty fucked-up, and irl I don’t think I could be friends with him after what he did. (But also irl I’d have given him a real talking to and not just accepted his bs like everyone else did in this episode and I think with that he might have realised earlier what he was doing so idk. I think if you’re gonna judge Bashir for this episode you also have to judge everyone else for standing by…)
Anyway, Sarina appears, appearing to be his dream woman, and Julian’s just lost.
It doesn’t happen immediately. When Sarina shows up on his doorstep and falls asleep on him, he is so awkward and uncertain what to do. And in the morning he’s still unsure and hesitant as to what this all means.
I’m certainly nor blaming Sarina -- she’s figuring everything out even more than Julian is! -- but when she makes breakfast for him and sends him off with it, I figure that is a massive romance-cue for Julian, who’s given up on his dreams of domesticity. If his feelings are just platonic at this point, he figures out they must actually be romantic, because people who are in love live together and make breakfast for each other. And if he has already started falling for her, it’s a confirmation that he’s allowed to fall for her, because they’re already acting romantically, and she started it. (Again, not an excuse -- he should have known that she is in no position to make a move to start a relationship.)
He’s not thinking logically and pursuing a relationship with his drive system, he’s still being driven by his threat system and fear of loneliness, and being in a relationship is the only thing that he can imagine will soothe him. (I mean tbh this has been his problem all along -- possibly even back to Palis -- and ugh, it sucks, because even though in a way he kind of can’t help it and he’s clueless to why he wants a relationship so much, it’s also kind of on him that he’s never done some serious self-reflection, and the fact that his trauma has led to him acting like this doesn’t negate the fact that he’s taking advantage of a very vulnerable woman and hurting her.)
It’s been implied by a) Quark, b) Vic, c) Bond-type books and d) most recently, Ezri, that he wasn’t quick enough to get Jadzia and should have tried harder. So of course, once he starts thinking he’s in love with her and that a romantic relationship is what they need, he’s desperate to start as soon as possible so that he doesn’t lose his chance. Because if he thought Dax had been his last chance, how much more is he going to be thinking that Sarina is his real last chance?
Sarina is pretty similar to him, and he can empathise a lot with her. And he knows how augments are treated by the world. And he knows how difficult it’s been for him, finding someone to love. And so he projects his own loneliness and fears onto her, and figures that being in a relationship is what they both need, because she’s unlikely to be given many chances either (which is kind of a contradiction to “I need to act now in case I lose her”, but hey, limbic system. Rational brain has long been taken out.)
And then as soon as he realises she’s only gone along with him because she feels like she owes him, it clicks and it’s over. It doesn’t make up for what he’s done but it genuinely never occurred to him -- and what’s more, he knows it should have occurred to him, and he still can’t figure out why he wasn’t more rational about this all.
> Which is also why none of the other characters were allowed to have a proper talk with him this episode because I think that would have made him realise what he was doing. (I know Miles kind of tried with “Julian, she’s your patient”, but when Julian came back with his excuses, Miles didn’t exactly argue against them.)
> And also, how much do you think that her telling him “I don't even understand what love is. I don't understand anything… What am I supposed to do? What am I supposed to feel? Tell me. I want to make you happy” resonates with him. Does he realise that these are the things he’s been asking himself his whole life, that this is actually how he’s been living his life and doing relationships this whole time. Are these actually a direct reflection of his thoughts about her: meeting with his friends, showing her off at dabo (he was always so proud of Leeta, remember?), that whole cliche of a romantic dinner… Are these all things he felt he was meant to do to make her happy and to show her what a romantic relationship is like?
And the thing is -- he does learn from this experience, and we see that he doesn’t try to rush in with Ezri when he starts getting feelings for her. (Yes, his learning shouldn’t have come at the cost of Sarina’s wellbeing, but it did, and I’m just going to accept that because he’s a fictional character and also I love him.) I don’t know if he got to the bottom of figuring out why he went so off-the-rails with Sarina. But clearly, it’s a mistake he doesn’t want to repeat. And I do want to give him some credit for that.
So let’s go on to Ezri.
BASHIR: Funny, I was just starting to... O'BRIEN: Starting to what? BASHIR: I don't know. But there was something-- something about her, wasn't there? Something that made me happy, anyway. She was this old soul and yet so young at heart, and… and-- I don't know what I'm saying.
I read this as a sort of admission that he doesn’t know what romantic love is. He knows he felt something, but I don’t know if he found something in what Sarina said that makes him doubt and wonder if it is love that he’s been feeling, or something else. But also, he leaves before O’Brien and Quark can comment, not asking for anyone to help figure out what he’s feeling. (Particularly as Quark’s made it obvious he thinks Julian must be in love with Dax, even if he doesn’t want Julian to be in love with Dax.)
And then when she returns, they begin their whole awkward dance around each other: though interestingly, as he’s talking about his inability to talk to her about his feelings in their eventual conversation, he sounds genuinely confused, and even distressed, when he says “I mean, I'm not usually like this. If I find someone attractive, I just-- I just tell them. I don't play these ridiculous games.” It seems he’s been experiencing some subconscious barrier whenever he’s wanted to bring his feelings up -- probably not dissimilar to most people’s hesitation to ask out a crush, but like he said, that’s not usually his style at all.
Presumably, this is because he’s worried that he could lose Ezri altogether if he makes a move and his feelings are unrequited, along with the knowledge that pursuing Sarina had been the complete wrong thing to do. Although again, maybe more subconsciously than not: when Ezri suggests they’ve both been hesitating because of their friendship, it seems to click for Julian as something that he’d not properly registered before.
Additionally, at this point in the show, losing people to the war seems inevitable. There’s been a long period with very little hope that either Ezri or Worf are alive, Kira, Odo and Garak are all off on Cardassia doing goodness-knows-what, until Odo returns with the Founders’ disease and again, there’s very little hope that he’ll survive. So it’s not really surprising that Julian finds himself unable to speak to Ezri about his feelings, given that this is the time least suited to losing friends to stupid mistakes like telling them you love them.
I definitely think there’s more to say about Ezri and Julian, but I feel like I’m losing the plot of what I’m saying a bit, so I’m going to stop there.
In summary:
Julian’s driven by his threat system: his fear-of-failure, fear-of-loneliness and fear-of-discovery/fear-of-rejection-for-being-an-augment. He doesn’t realise how much this affects him.
Julian thinks that other people/pre-90s media know about romance and love more than him and he should try to emulate them rather than figure out what he wants from them.
Julian doesn’t really understand his own feelings – his upbringing never gave him the chance to, and it hasn’t occurred to him to explore them and figure out what makes him tick and what doesn’t.
He’s deeply unhappy by season 6 and relying on easy but short-lasting waves of happiness to get by (e.g.holosuite adventures)
Because of all these things, when it is presented to him that there is a way to get lasting happiness, and that one way is to be in a relationship, he buys into it completely – falling for that idea probably far more than he actually falls for any of the ladies in question.
#Looooooong post#But worth the read I hope!#Julian Bashir#Julian Bashir meta#autistic julian bashir#aromantic julian bashir#genetically enhanced julian bashir#god this man needs therapy 😅#andi writes#my trek musings#wsb
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I'm a romance neutral aro but early nuwho is slowly turning me romance repulsed
#mossy’s musings#aro#doctor who#would you get those stupid pining subplots out of my way!!#aromantic#nuwho#new who#aro memes
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i think one major factor in why aromanticism is so isolating at times is because of the fact that, growing up afab at least, there is often times this huge expectation enforced growing up that no matter how shitty life gets, no matter how poorly you are treated or how you get fucked over, you can rest easy knowing you will 'find your person' and no matter what they will love you, and you will love them, and thats supposed to be enough. but its not- why do we settle for expecting to find one person who treats us well and devote our lives to being with them when we could be working to be surrounded by people who treat us well and are treated well by them? why do we settle? when i was younger, i read a lot of young adult romance and while i never really thought about it for myself, i remember when i had the crushing realization that that was expected for me. that id find my person, so to speak, and the rest of the world would cease to matter, because from that point on it would be just me and them against it all. it was horrifyingly isolating, especially as people around me talked more of their crushes and whatnot, and i couldnt relate at all. so i settled. i saw people who treated me well, made me feel appreciated, and i said 'i must be in love with them.' and when they expressed their own affection, i felt this tightness in my chest i can only describe as feeling like a fraud- like i had claimed to be a military soldier to avoid a horrible fate, only to be picked up and brought aboard an army batallion. just this really heavy dread, like i didn't belong and had done something horrible, and i was suffocating for it. for being wrong. and then id go on, thinking i had learned something, only to do it again. and again. and again. and then someone explained aromanticism to me, and it was like everything clicked, and it was invigorating but also like a rift had split the ground between me and most of my friends- because if romance isnt just feeling appreciated and enjoying someones company, what is it? i hear my friends describe falling in love with someone and i can only picture their faces. they say 'you want to spend all your time with them, and listen to them talk for hours, and share space with them' and i think 'but thats companionship? thats connection?' and idk maybe im just wrong about it all and in love with my friends or maybe society is just really fucking weird about romance and the divide it forms between partners and their friends
#aromantic#aromanticism#vent? ig?#although this is more so just thought musings cuz its been on my mind
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Why does a muse have to be a romantic lover
#aromantic#artistry#my muse#like if a muse wasn’t so closely related to romance#I’d have so many muses#like most of my friends#or my cat#actually scratch that just my cat#I love my cat
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Man. Thinking about how me being AroAcespec really connects with my sefshipping.
Like. It took me putting “We’ll Never Have Sex” by Leith Ross on my AroAce playlist and I’m in shambles just. Considering my f/os not minding my asexuality or even realizing they’re asexual because of me just makes me. An emotional mess <3
Like. My identity as someone on the AroAce spectrum has really made it so if I were to ever date irl again it would have to be with someone on the Ace spectrum at least cause I don’t think I could handle being with an Allo person longterm unfortunately. And just the idea of being in a long term loving and doating relationship brings me such joy even if I doubt I’ll find that for myself in real life, at least not easily.
Even just headcanoning a lot of my f/os as similar to me makes me feel so. Idk. Comforted? Like they’d understand. Like thats an element of our relationship that’s established and makes our situation unique. Idk it brings me a lot of security and joy.
#ollie musings#identity#my art!#🥘a dish made with love.rom#🔥spice of life.rom#☀️sunnyside up.rom#🌕moon and stars.rom#❤️i've got you memorized.rom#🌈you're the color in my cheeks.rom#aromantic#aro#ace#asexual#selfship#self ship#selfshipping
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I had SUCH an aroace moment yesterday and not to be corny but when it happened you could see the physical clicking in my brain with the multiple aroace alastor centric fics I read over the months
#Hazbin hotel#aromantic asexual alastor#musings#personal#to get a little real for a moment#I have never been in a situation for me to really ‘prove’ if I’m ace or not#because there are several layers of separation to enjoying suggestive media through writing through art or through screen#but I was there yesterday and I had the choice#and the realer is got the more disconnected I felt with the actions I was doing and what I really felt was right#the like intense revulsion I felt genuinely surprised me#it was a lot of acting and trying to see what the other person wants you to say or do#it felt like a weird roleplay or an act#it was so reminiscent of that scene in ‘face for a radio’ by ckret2 where alastor kisses a girl for the first time and it reminds him of#salmon#looking back at it now that entire fic is so relatable right up to the ‘being just ‘interested’ in what makes people think it’s so good’#and I don’t blame the other person at all they were really nice about it#I just feel bad about accidentally making them my?? beard??
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i just realized that my aceness is driven by my aroness.
i dont perceive romantic relationships like a lot of allos do. i can perceive close and intimate relationships, i can even perceive lifelong close and intimate relationships. (though like most people, i find it a daunting concept.) but i cant perceive, specifically, exclusive romantic relationships. "till death do us part" is a phrase that does not compute in my brain.
this translates over to sex. if i have a close friend or queerplatonic partner (i don't think im capable of having a true romantic partner) who i'm able to be intimate with, i don't think that intimacy is required. it's nice, but ultimately not needed to fuel the relationship. this is because the relationship isn't romantic in the allonormative sense. a romantic relationship has sex almost as a prerequisite. in an allo society, a romantic relationship and a sexual relationship are one and the same. i've only been in like two romantic relationships and both started entertaining the idea of intimacy right out of the gate.
but because i don't experience romantic relationships, i don't need to really experience sexual relationships. does that make any sense?
#i can see why a lot of allos think aces/aros are childish#it can be very easy to equate not having a normalized urge with not understanding it#but honestly i think i understand allo sexuality more than i do my own sexuality#i grew up with it. watched it on tv. read about it in books. was told i'd experience it eventually#i can and have given allos relationship advice that has worked#i've been told im good at it#i just find it interesting that i can understand something so well and not experience it at all#and meanwhile struggle so much with understanding myself#musings#asexual#aromantic#ace/aro
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🌸。*゚+. Me, working on my carrd... realizing that like 80% of my muses are on the Ace spectrum--
#MUN SPEAKING 🌸 ᴬ ʷᵉᵃᵛᵉʳ ᵒᶠ ᵗᵃˡᵉˢ; ᴾᵃⁱⁿᵗᵉʳ ᵒᶠ ˢᵗᵃʳˢ#Once again... I am noticing... The Trend™️ LMAO aside from it also being the “IRL Puppy Dog” type of muse#The amount of times I've typed “Demisexual/romantic” and “Asexual” or “Aromantic” in a combination of ways is. Startling LMAO#Damn the QUALITY of this muse list is Valedictorian material; Because they're all ACE-- //SHOT#Don't mind me I'm slowly losing my mind at transferring bios and thinking how I'm gonna put together other pages LOL#Creative brain is overheating with how much thinking I'm doing I need me a Purification Ampoule--
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Three days ago, a guy in my speech class asked me out on a date, and if I'm being honest the whole thing still kinda weirds me out. We exchange maybe 4 sentences every two weeks and we barely know each other. I was so fucking confused and I still am. Is this something that allo people just do???? Just ask out people like that???? He was chill with the put-down when I said I have a partner, but still I hated everything about that experience and I pray to god it never happens again. If I had any doubts in my mind that I'm AroAce, they're definitely gone now.
#the experience still makes me sick to think about#and it's not him he's an ok guy#I don't know it was just a really bad experience#my partner agreed that it was weird too at least#I never want to be asked out again it was horrible#aroace#arospec#aromantic#meso's musings
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this man would be so much happier if he understood what a QPR is and had the language to be able to ask ppl out into a QPR tbh
#>> ooc#sometimes when u write a thing but ur muse doesn't have the vocabulary or understanding to properly describe a thing#because ur writing from their PoV you never get to properly define it....#me gnawing at my bars as i lose my mind#all my ships are QPRs!! but he doesn't know that because he only understands allonormative and amanormative standards#picks him up and shakes him#sir u r aromantic will u ever understand this
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Jiro: Yeah so I actually have a big crush on Kluke 🥺 and sometimes I feel like you do too but idk :/ maybe I'm just wasting my time pursuing this feeling...
Shu: Man I love you but what the everliving fuck are you talking about
#📜 muse's voice#This scene is so funny#Shu comes out like 'yeah I've never really been interested in girls. Kluke is just my close friend :~)'#And Jiro is like HAHN???#Shu reads to me as aromantic in the same way Luffy One Piece or Sonic the Hedgehog are 😭#Characters who want more than anything to be free like the wind!#they do give Shu his own love interest later but she's a side characters who is only important to one arc of the story#+ I can't get into the idea of Shu and her as a couple bc of a scene that i consider to be VERY poorly written#Blue dragon posting
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Sometimes I catch myself wondering if I actually experience romantic attraction after all, wondering if I'm "really" aromantic, wondering if I should adopt an arospec microlabel. But... what does it matter whether I experience absolutely no romantic attraction or just a little bit of it? Experiencing attraction now that could be considered "romantic" doesn't erase the alienation I felt in the past when I was the only kid not getting crushes. It doesn't change the fact I pretended to have a crush my whole freshman year of high school. It doesn't take away the fear of dating I used to have. So I figure, if I experienced romantic attraction now, that attraction would be inseparable from my aromanticism. A specifically aromantic flavor of romantic attraction.
And while I do like microlabels, I just can't help but stick with plain ol' aro. Do I experience tertiary attractions while also desiring romance, or is that romantic attraction? Does the distinction even matter? Not to me. I remind myself there is no objective way to tell what these things are because they're socially constructed.
So what's the point here? Aromantic and romantic are compatible, and attraction is fluid and language is fluid, so go and do whatever makes your heart happy and call yourself whatever makes your heart happy.
#my identity#musings from odd hours#//#aromantic#aro#actually aromantic#arospec#aromantic spectrum#romance favorable
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