#my Megatron is 100% based on their works

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can i kindly ask for a summary of how time is measured in your au? mostly the cycle/year stuff, im not sure if it's lifted from elsewhere or your own creation — either way i think it's really cool :) world building is awesome

very sorry if you've already gone over this elsewhere

Oh sure! I spent way too long figuring this out so i might as well explain it.

The cybertronian calendar goes in one direction forever unless a new Prime decides to reset it. Nova Prime reset the calendar when he declared the new Golden Age of Expansion, which is why Megatron’s canon Birthday is so small (1st cycle 012) as he was among the first Cold Constructed mechs onlined, and that started with Nova.

The only unit of measurement that we seem to have solidified is Vorns, which is 83 earth years (earth years=stellar cycle). The calendar’s cycles are measured by vorn, the first number counts vorn, and every 24 vorn the second number ticks up. after 24th cycle 12 it would become 1st cycle 013 and then 2nd cycle 013.

There…actually is no unit of time for the second measurement as far as I can tell, so I have no idea what to call it, but essentially you would say Megatron’s birthday as first cycle O’twelve, and people would know he was born 23904-ish years after Nova Prime’s calendar went in effect.

24 vorns is roughly 2000 years and every 500 dates on the calendar is roughly one million years.

I developed this calendar system based on the actual dates we do have in IDW1, I decided 24 vorns are when the calendar turns over because the war starts about a million years after Megatron’s birth and the canon dates for most of those events are in the 500s. I did have to ignore the single canon date set in the 51st cycle for this, but all the other dates are within the 1 to 14 range. And this is taking into consideration that the calendar probably reset some time under Zeta Prime (which is why the Battle of Sherma Bridge where Megatron and the newly anointed Optimus Prime allegedly duked it out for the first time happens in 2nd Cycle 087 even tho Megatron was beat up by Whirl in jail before the war in 4th Cycle 496). Some of the inconsistencies I also chalk up to some bots still using the old calendar. the only date I really cant figure out is 6th Cycle 356 being confirmed to be “half a million years ago” like?? Eh?? Ultra Magnus’ last fatality was pre earth pretty sure and that happened in the 3800’s (of nova’s calendar pretty sure). Maybe they missed a zero at the end of the date or something idk XD 3560 would make so much more sense for half a million years ago.

Also, 83 years is a long time and it does seem like they have smaller units of dating called chords and arcs but I just assume thats like days and months to us and I cant be bothered to figure it out. not enough info about it anyway. I’m sure one of those tracks stellar cycles and the other tracks cybertronian days.

i think the only other unit of time I've used is deca-cycles, just cuz I like how it sounds. a deca-cycle is about a month, or three weeks.

Megatron and Skywarp were constructed earlier on (012 and 023 respectivly), Thundercracker was constructed closer to when the matrix “ran dry” probably in the 100s, and Starscream was commissioned by Cryak at the end of the millenia, in the late 400s, after they’d stopped constructing seekers entirely. He must not have been more than a few vorns old when he met Thundercracker.

Starscream and Skyfire’s expedition would have taken them 40 on the calendar to get to earth, based on Skyfire’s shuttle speed. Starscream probably would have been able to make it back to cybertron a little bit faster.

I referenced this and this page of the wiki while working on this. Most of my worldbuilding is extrapolation from canon.

yes i did all this for one joke.

A few more timeline stuff: Megatron is about .7 million years older than Starscream, and Starscream is about half a million years older than the start of the war. The war lasted 3 million years before they crash landed on earth after which they went into stasis for one million years. Some time after they landed on earth, Shockwave successfully clones Sunstorm.

and in case you were wondering, sunny's serial code is referencing his Collector's Edition toy's ID number (089). SC stands for Seeker Class. they run out of glyphs slots after 999 so they sort them into batches. Sunny is the 089th frame built in batch 16. whether that means his frame was already built and left empty in storage somewhere and then repurposed by Shockwave, or Shockwave built him from scratch based on the blueprints and just continued the serial code sequence, I haven't decided. but either way, it means there was a finite number of seekers brought into the world and they dont even make up a whole united states city's worth of people. Lots of them are dead by now anyway. The whole cybertronian race is so small now they are all on first name bases with each other XD. But i digress, none of that has to do with time or calendar stuff, just thought it was fun.

thanks for asking!!

[scourgeofmyownbrain]

More "Bumblebee and Optimus meeting as ✨Adults✨ but still being Father and Son" stuff I came up with, plus extra because I can't get these chuckle-fucks out of my head.

Link to my prev. post for context. incase yall missed it bc I'm not explaining myself, we're just diving right into the deep end

Edit: i entirely forgot but i have a third one.

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Bee knows Optimus isn't one for physical affection, and he fully understands and accepts that. He doesn't want to make Optimus uncomfortable by disrespecting one of his boundaries, that's just a shit thing to do. And Bumblebee is not a shit person. But... he's also desperate. Look, being deprived of physical parental affection your whole life fucks you up something good, let Bumblebee tell you, it makes you do some odd shit just to get a taste of what you've been missing out on. And! And most of the stuff Bumblebee has done are perfectly normal things to do! Plenty of casual stuff, leaning against his chair to look at what Optimus is working on, high fives and fist bumps (Optimus rarely, if ever, does these but for Bee he'll do anything just to make him smile, see Optimus acting totally normal about his feelings what are you talking about), leaning against him for a second when he's tired, totally normal! There are, less normal things, like when one of Bee's legs nearly got torn off on a mission and Optimus had to carry him back to base and Bee curled up close in Optimus's arms the whole time- because of the pain, totally 100% definitely only the pain that was Not mostly taken care of by some field anesthetics. It felt nice to be carried like a kid, sue him.

Getting injured is a special case with giving and taking affection. For example, when Bumblebee had to drag Optimus to a med bay after he passed out from a mission. They were walking into the common room together; Optimus was telling Bee he was fine when he CLEARLY wasn't because he didn't want to wake the medics for something as Trivial as THEIR LEADER and FREIND'S HEALTH (Bee is this close to strangling him) when Optimus just pitched over onto the floor.

Optimus, clearly tried and hurt: I will be fine, there is no need to wake the medics, I just need some energ... *faceplants*

Bumblebee: What did I say? What did fragging I say?! *Hefts Optimus's limp body onto his shoulders* fragging, stupid, slagging, moron, 'I don't need a medic, I'll be fine' he says, if I had been the one doing this, you would have torn the base apart getting the medics up, fragging idiot. *drags Optimus's body out of the room*

Optimus: *Mumbles something about not wanting to bother anyone*

Bumblebee: Too fragging bad, big man, you are going to take care of yourself and you're going to like it!

So now Bee has to drag a bot much bigger than him back down the hall and into the Medbay, just because Optimus was being fucking stupid. Yes it looks as funny as you're thinking. Optimus is semi-conscious but delirious as they make their way down the halls of the base and says "I don't want to take anything that would be better served helping any of you, I care about all of you so much I don't want to see you hurt. I love you." and Bumblebee's like Optimus, I feel so loved and so angry right now, but fuck what you want you're getting taken care of. No, you did not just make my fucking day, I lOve yoU tOo dAd-. He gets Optimus into the medbay on a berth then goes to forcibly wake the medics up to calm himself down because he is seconds from crying.

Optimus eventually gets better with affection, and now Bee gets a hug whenever he asks. He has yet to come down from this high.

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Bumblebee calls Megatron his "Shit Ex-Stepfather". The entirety of team prime thinks this is hilarious. Even Optimus can't help but smile, though he tries to hide it. Someone, probably Jazz, changed Megatron's file name to "Worlds Worst Stepfather". After the war, if Megatron is still alive, he will mysteriously acquire some kind of award saying "Cybertron's #1 Worst Stepfather". He is very confused.

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If you could get Optimus drunk, he would become such a sap. Like, insufferably soft and emotional. And he would be talking about Bee damn near the whole time. He would be so annoying.

Optimus: *Drunk* Did I ever tell you about Bumbl-bee? He's, he's my boy, my bumble boy, my gold'n boy, my buzzy boy, my sweet cheese. An, he's really yellow, you'll know it's him, he looks like- he's really yellow, it's hard not to see him, but he's really really good at sneaking. Even though he's so yellow. He can sneak around so good, no one sees him. I can see him, 'cause he's my boy. He can sneak around and nooo one finds him, 'cept me, 'cause he's my boy. He can hide so good, he hid under sshockwave's chest once. Riiiight under his eye, his big purple eye. Bee's so funny, he tells such funny stories. He tells his stories better then me, they're a lot funnier. I'm not good at funny stories. He's really good at it. He's really good at lots of things. Bee's so cool. I'm so happy he's here, he's so cool and funny and nice and cool. And he fights real good too, he's so cool. he once- Bee once punched my ex once, right in the face. Riiight in the kisser, just, boosh. My ex sucks, Bee's so cool. I like him, he's my boy. An-and he taught himself how to do aaaaall the cool things he does. He didn't have anyone to teach him, he did it all by himself. All alone... I wish I met him sooner, when he was small. He says he was really cute when he was small and I want to see him small. I like him big though, he's really fun when he's big. He's- *Sobs* He's my booooy, and I love him so muuuuch.

This continues for hours. Luckily he never drinks so no has to suffer through this.

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If you thought Optimus was the Serial Adopter, you'd be wrong. It's Bumblebee. No bot is safe from his clutches. He scoops up family members like a pelican scoops fish. Optimus is barely aware of how many family members he technically has, he stopped keeping track a long time ago.

Bumblebee: *Bursting into the room dragging some bot he was on an extended mission with* OPTIMUS, I GOT ATTACHED AGAIN YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER FAMILY MEMBER

Optimus: *Not looking up from his data pad* That's great, son, go put it with the rest.

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Optimus would be such a good grandparent. In the future, after the war ends, Bumblebee comes into possession of a kid; whether he finds someone and takes them under his wing or he just fucking makes one, I don't know nor care, but he gets a kid. And when he introduces them to Optimus, Optimus just fucking melts. He was already a huge softie before but he's so much worse now. He goes full grandma mode. He has snacks in his pockets (or whatever bots have) that he sneaks to the kid every time he sees them. He gives them money at random. You best believe he would destroy anything that even looked at his grandbaby wrong (Bee: Optimus, stop attacking the door. Optimus, the door just bumped them, they're fine. Dad stop, omp(rimus))

The "Bee finds a kid and both of them get attached and now are a family" is the funnier option. Because the kid knows who these guys are, they saved Cybertron. The kid's still getting used to having Bee as their guardian, so when they meet the 13th Prime: Holder of the Matrix of Leadership, Savior of Cybertron, they don't expect Dotting Grandparent Extraordinaire.

Bumblebee: and this is Optimus Prime. He's your Grandpa.

The kid : *nervous* He's my what?

Optimus: *on the verge of tears* mY grAnDbABy-

The "Bee made a kid" version is still pretty funny.

Bumblebee: *Exasperated* Optimus, give me my child back.

Optimus: *violently crying* nO, It'S mY bAbY nOW.

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Imagine, if you will, Optimus and Bumblebee sitting on a roof together, not talking, not touching, just watching the sun set. Just enjoying the silence together, maybe with some energon to go with it. Because they get it, oh they get it. Sometimes you just need to be alone with someone. That good mutual respect and love from a found family that understands you. this is why I need bee to be an adult, I need both of them to be hurting and find some comfort in each other, to find solace in each other, to be a family and to be equals, is that too much to ask?

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A list of things Bumblebee is allowed to get away with:

Interrupting Meetings to Tell Optimus Something, important or not (hi dad)

Casually touching the Usually Touch Adverse Optimus (Physical affection ftw)

Calling Optimus out on his self-sacrificial bullshit (you're going to see the medics and you're going to like it, old man)

Using the three points above to drag Optimus into the Medbay by force (Ratchet is so smug about this)

Getting Optimus to do something fun and relaxing (father son bonding time, as Bee says.)

Swearing aggressively (for everyone else it's unprofessional, for Bee its therapeutic. He stretches this excuse as far as it goes)

Making Insulting comments about others to their face (look they deserve it if the Perpetually Friendly Bumblebee is saying it)

Talking about Megatron (Usually team prime avoids talking about Megsy outside of war related convos out of respect for Optimus's history with him. Bumblebee does not give a shit, Megatron is a bitch and he's going to make his opinions known (Everyone thinks it's funny dw))

Illegal activities (this fucker street races in every universe, you think he isn't doing shit like this on the daily?)

Murder

Stealing/Sneaking snacks (he shares with Optimus)

Making jokes about Optimus being his dad (he thinks it's funny bc they're not related and they met like 6 years ago. Optimus explodes with emotion every time bc you consider me good enough to be your dad?)

Bee is a fucking menace, Optimus loves him so much.

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Misc. funny word vomit I came up with that have no context, reason, or sense

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Optimus is working at a desk focusing on some data pads. A tiny energon cube flies into frame, bouncing off Optimus's forehead and landing on the desk. Optimus grabs the cube and eats it without looking up from the datapad. A few minutes pass, another energon cube flies and bounces off Optimus's head. He eats it without looking. Bumblebee is sitting off to the side in the room with Optimus with a bag of energon snacks, periodically throwing one at the distracted Prime. This is Bee's and Ratchet's newest scheme to get Optimus to actually eat, and it's working splendidly. (Actually, Bumblebee originally was throwing the energon onto the desk, but over time he got bored and started just throwing the cubes directly at Optimus. He hasn't noticed any of the cubes hitting him at all, so Bee's started trying to do trick shots.)

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"Are you sure this is a good idea, Bumblebee?"

"Absolutely, now throw me."

"Alright... Three, two, one- Ngha!"

*distant loud metal slam*

"..."

*distantly* "I'm good! We're in business!"

*quietly* "oh thank primus..."

*distantly* "Okay, I'm done. I'm coming back down."

"Wait-"

*distantly* "Hup!"

*loud crashing metal noises*

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It's early morning, everyone got back to base late the night before. Everyone is tired. Optimus is sitting at the table in the common room, slowly drinking a cube of energon. His eyes are half open and bleary. Bumblebee is beside him, head in his hand, dozing. Bee's head falls from his hand and slams onto the table. Optimus doesn't even blink at the noise, just takes a sip of energon.

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Bumblebee takes a lot of pictures. Mostly of his team. He's pretty sneaky about it too, usually just taking a capture from his visual feed and saving it to his personal datapad. And at a glance none of the pictures are all that special, captures of a group of bots hanging out between missions, selfies of Bee and company on missions, drunken mishaps, quiet moments, he's got this really funny one of Cliffjumper stuck in a storage closet, but Bee keeps all these photos out of sight. The others are aware of his habit but they never see most of the photos, they never ask. Bee only opens his photos folder when ever he has a quiet moment alone and just scrolls through, reminiscing. His favorites are the ones where he caught someone's genuine smile. Sometimes they're in the background of a larger group shot, or it's just them smiling at Bee in conversation. He's got a lot of Optimus's smile. Optimus doesn't smile a lot, but he always seems to smile when Bee's around. Bee's proud that he can do that for him.

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this could literally be anyone on team prime: *teasing* You playing favorites, Prime? Giving Bumblebee all this special treatment is making the rest of us feeling left out.

Optimus: You all treat him the exact same way I do.

again, literally anyone on team prime: ... Touché, Boss bot, touché...

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After spending an extended period of time in close proximity to Megatron (for what ever reason), Bumblebee and Optimus talk.

Bee: You had terrible taste in partners.

Optimus: *sighs*

Bee: Physically, I can see the appeal, but everything else is a wild thing to say yes to.

Optimus: ...

Bee: His personality, his interests- just why none of that clocked you onto how fragged up he would be is beyond me.

Optimus: ........

Bee: You're not stupid, I hope that your next partner will be leagues better than him. Ratchet maybe, oh or Elita, they would make great partners (and even better step-parents), or maybe-

Optimus: CanwePleasestoptalkingaboutmylovelife??

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Bumblebee: If you get back together with Megatron I'm disowning you.

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BB: This is... so dumb.

OP: The higher I am the better I can see.

BB: You can- You can fly.

OP: Hush now Bumblebee! I am searching...

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ idk man, brain rot hits something different when I think about it for long periods of time

[raileurta]

A continuation of this post

Looking back on it Miko should have just told the truth. Sure yeah it's extremely embarrassing calling your resident overlord addict "dad" by accident but it would not have snowballed into this hot gaslighting mess.

Oh who Miko kidding she is reveling in the complete chaos she's caused.

Scrolling back to a few weeks ago Miko had just finished school. The girl had just previously pulled an all nighter to catch up on all her work and studying. (Got to stay in her exchange program somehow) So Miko was completely exhausted. She didn't even have a chance to sleep during school as for some Primus forsaken reason there was an important test in every class! Miko had planned on sleeping at the base but nooooo the universe had other plans. That day the decepticons decided to try to tail them without them noticing and try to find out their secret base. Of course her best bestie in the whole universe noticed them and quickly diverted his course. They drove for a few minutes before Bulkhead quickly went behind some rock transformed and did a surprise attack on them. It probably was an interesting fight but Miko was too tired to care or pay attention to.

Iterable now and still unwillingly awake they were ground bridge back to base. Jack being the good mom friend he is asked if she was okay. Miko doesn't really understand what happened in her brain that day that made her give that response but sleep deprivation is a scary thing. She had responded,

"Yeah yeah I'm good just some of Dad's goons being annoying again."

Silence greeted her. She looked around weirded out by everyone's shocked faces. They were staring at her like she had just grown another head.

"What's wron-" and apparently that's when her mind registered what she had just said. Miko's face twisted into the definition of abject terror and her brain in all it's horrible glory decided it would best to follow that up with,

"Scrap you weren't supposed to know that."

What the hell brain?!?? Could you have worded that any less suspiciously? Could have said something like "I didn't mean to say that." Jesus Christ.

Miko obviously knowing on some instinctual level she fucked up big time immediately tried to book it. She didn't get too far of course, getting caught by Arcee real quickly. (She's slippery but not that slippery.)

The girl was half questioned half interrogated about what she had meant by that. Deciding it was a good idea to dig herself into a deeper hole Miko "revealed" that Megatron was her father. For obvious reasons they didn't believe her bs. Miko then decided to back up her claim with "evidence" if you can even call it that. She said she can understand Bee for instance. Bumblebee then chipped at her which had translated into, "What?? No way! If that's true what's my favorite dinosaur?"

She simply responded "Triceratops."

Everyone freaked out especially Bee. Miko couldn't really blame them. As she's been "acting" like she didn't know Bee's language and been lying to them since day one. The truth though was that Miko had in secret actually been practicing to understand him for a couple months now. It was going to be a gift of sorts and she was just fed up with not understanding him.

They still needed more evidence from her through. Yeah it was extremely suspicious that Miko hasn't said anything about this but Raf could understand Bee and he's a regular human. She then brought out the big guns and told them,

"Well I also know Megatron and Optimus are exes." Miko had bluffed. She didn't know 100% for sure that was true. She mostly just got this vibe from those two and nobody acknowledged it. It honestly was kinda annoying if she was being honest with here. The team instantly threw up protests and looked to their leader to disprove her claims. But they were met with a slightly blushing Optimus who was turned away. Ratchet making a comment under his breath about how did she know?

If Miko thought they weren't fully freaked out about the language thing they were totally freaked out now. It was really chaotic. Bulkhead was frantically asking why she didn't say anything and was Miko just using him for some evil plan?! At the same time Arcee and Bee were trying to get Raf and Jack away from her at the same time. While Optimus was kinda breaking down about not knowing anything about this and Ratchet was consoling him. She thankfully managed to convince Bulk that yes they were in fact best friends and no she wasn't going to hurt anybody. Being the saints they are autobots tried to look past her "heritage" and still be a family. Optimus even giving her a grand speech about how your blood doesn't define you and what you choose to be.

God was that awkward.

After a bit of more talking Miko finally was permitted to rest and once the best sleep of her life was over reality hit hard for her. If she wasn't freaking out about the whole situation at the time Miko would have laughed herself dizzy at how easily the bots were fooled. They didn't even ask about her quote unquote "creation." Calming down a few minutes later Miko started to really think about what to do now.

And well in for a penny in for a pound, she decided to double down and commit to this weird bit. So for the next few days Miko started dropping "lore" about herself and in general messing with everyone. Ratchet even made a comment about how it was kinda obvious looking back as Miko apparently was a mini Megatronous with her personality.

Okay wow. She was kinda offended by the comment but really couldn't say anything.

She did however get some cool information about Megatron. Like apparently how he was a very lively prankster. This info would come in handy about two weeks later.

Miko had ran through the ground bridge as usual, got caught up in some dangerous battle, then to shake things up was caught in another cave in. (Those are never as traumatic as the second time around) As fate would have it she was sorta saved by buckethead himself. Holding up a huge rock preventing them both from being squished making him unable to harm her. Not one to waste this opportunity she tried to recruit him into her scheme.

It went something like this:

"Okay look I need for you to hear me out."

"No."

"I didn't say anything yet!"

"I don't care to listen to the ramblings of a filthy organic."

"Ugh why couldn't it have been a different pretend dad decepticon?!"

"what...?"

"Long story short I have been gaslighting the autobots into believing your my dad- well sire for the past few weeks."

Megatron was rendered speechless.

Well briefly anyways.

"I'll be damned Starscream was right. All you insects are completely insane."

"Probably. But that's besides the point; I need your help to keep this lie going."

"Absolutely not."

"Come on....."

"No."

"Yes."

"NO."

"YES."

"NO."

"YES."

"IT'S NOT EVEN BIOLOGICALLY POSSIBLE!"

"Does it look like I care????? The autobots believed me and that's all that matters!"

"Wait a minute- you got the autobots to believe you?"

"Surprisingly yes. In all honesty it was too easy."

"....."

"Don't you want to fuck with them?"

"Imagine how much psychological damage Ratchet and Optimus would take."

"Aren't you tired of being nice?"

"I'm never nice."

"Don't you want to go ape shit?"

"Why are you doing this?"

"Why go through all this effort to keep up this lie?"

Miko should have said that it was because she didn't want to be caught lying and was scared about revealing the truth; but that would be a lie.

"I'm doing this because I can. I do it for the love of the game."

"Your psychotic........"

"It's nice to meet you daughter."

Cew evil canned laughter.

[Part 1] - [Part 2?]

[yes-i-write-fanfiction]

Some opinions down below on why I think these specific characters would be funny to see in this scenario;

-Nightbeat is a detective. Gotham is full of crime. See where I'm getting at? Also, it would be funny if he just casually figured out the batfams secret identities, went "neat" and then just moved on to the next mystery.

-Rodimus would 100% try to become a vigilante. Creates a heroic looking holoform (that looks way to flashy for anything in Gotham) and uses his alt mode as his own batmobile. Batman would find out about his true identity by the end of the week.

-I want to see Megatron accidentally create a criminal empire. Like, he tries so hard to appear like a normal human while trying to find a way home, maybe even opens a cafe or some shit as cover, but he keeps on attracting the attention of criminals. Suddenly he's got hundreds of goons devoted to him, following his every order. Call that warlord rizz.

-Whirl for the same reason as Megatron except he does it on purpose. He wanna do crime! Be a rogue (but one of those cool ones like Poison Ivy and Catwoman)! And punch the Joker. Fuck, he really hates the Joker.

-It would just be funny to see Prowl in this hellhole of a city. Gotham's crime rate is 100%, the cops are corrupt, the law is upheld by vigilantes. Look me in the eyes and tell me that he wouldn't have a fucking seizure. Would kill the Joker for stress relief.

-Look, Starscream would hate the city but he would make it work. He'd make his own place, forge connections, create his own criminal empire. And totally try and seduce Bruce Wayne. You know, for the money and power.

-Grimlock gets found by Robin. Robin sees giant, fire breathing, robot t-rex and goes "hmm, yes, you're mine now" and keeps him a secret from the rest of the batfam.

-Brainstorm would fucking thrive in Gotham. He's a mad scientist, he would have so much fun taking apart the weapons and equipment of Gotham's rogues and vigilantes. Not to mention creating his own. He'd steal the batmobile only to return it two days later, upgraded and decked out with the most insane tech.

-Soundwave has an adoption problem. Batman has an adoption probem. You see my vision? Also, I want him to adopt Robin. And Robin just accepts it because now he gets to hang out with Ravage, Buzzsaw, Laserbeak and Ratbat. Alternatively, just Ravage in Gotham because that would be funny too.

-Rewind thinks Gotham is fucking WILD and he's planning on getting it all on tape so he can show his friends later. He stalks the batfam on their patrols, sneaks into the secret bases of rogues, just to get those good action shots.

-Similar to Prowl, Ultra Magnus would be so fucking vexed by Gotham but while Prowl goes "I FUCKING HATE THIS CITY AND EVERYONE IN IT!", Ultra Magnus has a major case of "I can fix them".

[somerandomcockroach]

Okay, but decepticon Prowl didn't plan and prepare and properly defect from the decpticons, he was thrown out.

The ask that mentioned him being a bad shot got me thinking.

We rarely see Prowl as a bad shot, so either one of two things are going on

1.) Prowl is just not emtionally invested in this fight and is running too many numbers for something else but he has to be here against his will

2.) Prowl is intentionally shooting certain deceptions because "they threaten the future of the decepticons" (they threaten and beat up Prowl)

So after enough "bad shots" the grunts of the decepticon base Prowl was stationed on (as barricade) beat him up, and throw him out. Prowl is annoyed by this because obviously he is important but he can't reveal himself without ruining his cover. So he goes planet hitch-hiking to get back to Megatron and obviously get reinstated and protection.

While planet hopping, "Barricade" meets Jazz who is currently under the name of Meiser since he is infiltrating and taking a look at some decepticon territory. Barricade does not know that Meiser has been following him since he got thrown out. Barricade also does not know that Meiser has his suspicions about who he is. Afterall, there aren't a lof of praxians left in the deception forces, and this one has some dumb gold paint on his cheveron that has already started to flake and show red in these harsh outdoor conditions.

Barricade does think that Meiser is either an autobot spy (since he is not accounted for in any of Prowl's databases and battlefield simulations), or has a major glitch in his logic circuits that got him kicked out and now desperate for any social interaction (which must be the reason why he is hanging around Barricade, since no one ever actually willingly hung out around him before, and especially nobody hangs out with Prowl).

Things keep happening that try to kill "Barricade". But luckly clumsy Meiser is right there to "accidentally" shoot the problem right in the processor. Barricade does not remember Meiser having a gun on him. Or a knife. Or that feral of a smile. But anyways he has places to be and a mech to see.

Prowl intends on turning in Meiser-the-spy or just ordering the death of Meiser-the-idiot once he gets back to Megatron. Especially since through this adventure, Prowl has learned that Meiser will listen to a long thought out and perfect plan, then immidiately go do his own thing, so he can't be used as some disposable pawn in one of Prowls plans.

Evnetually Prowl gets back to Megatron. It is unfortunate that this regrouping happens on an open battle-field, but Prowl predicts that the decepticons will have to make a hastly retreat in 27.8 joors and does not want to miss his ride home. He expects to be welcomed by Megatron, updated on all battle field data, and then sent to the safety of the back of the lines to go sip a cube and win this battle.

Except Megatron has noticed that decepticons tend to have more friendly fire where ever he sends Prowl. And Prowl has already given him predictions and battle maps and troop movement plans for the next 100 vorn. And honestly? Megatron has wanted to punch Prowl for a while now.

So he does just that. One moment Prowl is clearing his vocalizer to get his attention while he is OBVIOSLY busy beating up an autobot. And the next moment Prowl is 12 feets away with a large fist-sized crater in his chest. Serves that nerd right.

Prowl goes offline. Not from the injury. But from the glitch that spawned when Megatron didn't welcome him back and start a much needed debreif.

Anyways, Prowl wakes up in the autobot medbay.

HELP, oh you all really don't like Prowl and want him punched ahagsgga

In my mind it's hard to turn events to that. You see, I think Megatron would treat Prowl like autobots treat Ratchet. Megatron is ruthless in the way he treats his warriors, they fight for "freedom" so someone's life is worth it. Prowl always gives 99% successful plan with minimal risks. And these plans work because Megatron accepts them. Decepticons can say nothing but they hate "Prowl" behind all these plans, because they can see that they are turning in even more bugs than they were before. Before it looked at least like a live or die battle. Now it is a straight order of dying in their cases. But hey, ahah, who is this "Prowl"? There is only Barricade and a possibility of his hidden identity leaking, it's just Megatron can't keep his optics on him 24/7 so making him second identity is a good way of preventing him from instant death. I actually want to think of the ways Starscream could switch his attention to Prowl and not like him because he can't be bribed. "With such tactician even I can be a leader" and Prowl just "-_-".

Prowl is left without voice, tracking, comms, everything is done to not let Megatron find him, but he will search for him even if everyone tells him he is dead. Prowl just need to fix everything and not let others find any info on him and somehow leave to send a signal. So I bet there are much more layers to all of that. For Megatron to want to punch him he needs to be like Starscream or be a Sentinel Prime.

Pffht, imagine you see a very beaten up Decepticon, clearly beaten up by his own people. Everything that allows to track you is ripped off. What does it mean? They wanted to get rid of him while making it look like he died of accident in the end, they got all they needed from him and left him to suffer. Means he had something valuable within him and clearly will be more anticipating in the interrogation with autobots. Revenge takes a place, wouldn't it? So even if Jazz is in a good condition and finds him, he clearly will bring him to Autobot base right away. Prowl will not search the way on his own, he will be thrown out where it is impossible to get out by his own, Junkion, so his priority also will be to get saved even if go with autobots with the possibility of revealing his identity and he will make everything to not let it happen

[dragqueenstarscream]

hey, its me again, back with more Starscream thoughts, so you just know things are about to get uncomfortably real and introspective! Again, prefacing by saying that a lot of my analysis is based on my own eerily similar experiences to Starscream, so I'm not 100% sure how much of this actually rings true and what is just me projecting.

I have entirely fallen down the StarOp rabbit hole thanks to you, at a speed I never could have expected. When I first finished TFP and started browsing the tags, I'd see the occasional StarOp post and at best be like "alright, sure" and at worst a little confused on where it was coming from, given the infrequency of interactions between the two after like, early season 1. But since I sent that first ask in it just clicked and like.

Before, I was always of the opinion that Starscream joining the autobots was something that could never really work from a character perspective, not just because of his dependency on Megatron like I talked about last time, but like, even if Megatron was completely out of the picture I never felt like the full on redemption and becoming a functioning member of post-war society that becoming an Autobot would entail would particularly be desirable to Starscream (if even possible for reasons both in and out of his control.)

I sorta felt like any good ending for Starscream would have to entail him moreso escaping the narrative than anything else, given the extent to which he's stuck in this cycle almost on a cosmic level, with how he's unable to escape it in any universe, any continuity, which of course ties into wider thoughts on how this franchise seems uninterested in letting Starscream ever escape that cycle. A sort of El Camino style ending, where leaving behind everything you know and running away to Alaska is considered a good ending, all things considered. That naturally led to me shipping him with Knockout, given their chemistry and the fact that they were this close to running away together, it just felt like the most compelling option, narratively speaking.

But now that I've caught onto the StarOp agenda, I've sorta cracked the code and realized that you can make a compelling and believable path to Starscream becoming an Autobot by having him getting together with Optimus initially be on a subconscious level an outlet to recreate the cycle he was in with Megatron purely because he's used to it and doesn't know how to live without it.

Outside of the obvious ideological and moral differences, Optimus and Megatron have a lot in common, especially from the perspective of Starscream. They're both big, strong, masculine figures, and natural-born leaders that effortlessly compel those around them to fight for their respective causes. They both radiate power in a way that I imagine you can almost feel when around them (and in a way I know it, because that's often how it felt being around my personal Megatron, it's why it was so easy to fall back into his arms over and over.)

All this to say, when Starscream gets with Optimus, he's not escaping the cycle, he's changing his target. If he became an autobot he would instantly become the most dedicated autobot, not out of any ideological reasoning or particular desire to be good, but out of an intense loyalty he effortlessly placed in Optimus. But of course, the loyalty phase is only half of this cycle.

This next part I'm heavily basing on what I've realized about my own experiences, so bear with me for a second, (I also doesn't think it exactly applies to TFP as much as it does some other continuities, G1 maybe but I haven't seen much of G1 so idk for sure) but I feel like sometimes Starscream almost tests Megatron in a way when he feels like Megatron's priorities are drifting away from him, (since remember, he needs to be the most important bot in his life, Starscream is desperate for Megatron to be as obsessed with him as he is with Megatron.) so Starscream will sort of do something stupid, maybe he comes up with some harebrained scheme that's probably not gonna work, or he makes some tactical or administrative decision entirely based on what he's feeling on an emotional level, to see "will Megatron back me on this?"

because Megatron does stuff like that all the time, he's far from being a better tactician than Starscream, (notice how the moment Starscream leaves in season 1, the decepticons stop winning like, at all until he comes back?) and he makes rash decisions out of anger all the time, and Starscream goes along with all of it, every single time, so it's only fair that Megatron lets him get away with doing something kinda stupid this once. and when Megatron inevitably doesn't, either because it would work against the Decepticons own goals, or purely because he doesn't want Starscream to think he has power over him, (and despite how good he is at hiding it, Starscream does have power over him in a lot of ways, I might talk about that some other time.) Starscream lashes out, betrays Megatron, and leaves, because once again all the loyalty he gave to Megatron got him nothing in return.

and let's be clear, Starscream doing this is toxic as fuck, but at the same time of course it is, it's almost impossible not to become toxic in an environment like this. And that really comes back to bite you when you get out of that environment, but on a base level still have these habits and base level impulses that might have helped you survive back then but are terrible for the actually decent people you've surrounded yourself with now.

With that, we cut to today, where Starscream is an autobot and he tries to pull one of these "tests" on Optimus because the honeymoon phase is over and Starscream is instinctually ready for things to start getting worse, maybe they had like, one minor argument and Starscream instantly assumed the worst. and I imagine Optimus "fails" the test, says "no, I'm not backing you on this, I'm not gonna let you do that", but unlike Megatron who does so while prioritizing his own ends and his control over Starscream, Optimus is saying no for moral reasons. And I imagine he tries to explain that to Starscream, but that answer isn't hitting him properly because again, Starscream's only thinking in loyalty.

Everything Optimus thought was progress on Starscream's part in living up to autobot ideals was really just newfound intense loyalty to Optimus, his growth was really just him doing what he thinks Optimus would want him to do and what he thinks would gain him Optimus's loyalty in return. and, from Starscream's perspective, it didn't work, so he's thinking "obviously Optimus doesn't care about me at all, fuck him, I'm out of here." so he makes this big display of betraying the autobots and running away.

and from there, it's the question of if Optimus sees through what this is really about. The other autobots are probably no help in that regard, they all probably fall into one of two groups, the "At no point in time was I not 100% sure that this inevitably was going to happen" group, and the "I mean, I had hope for him, and it seemed like he was doing good, but I'm still not that surprised" group.

But of course, Optimus isn't Megatron, he does care about Starscream and wants him to know that, so I imagine he actually tries tracking down Starscream to have an actual conversation with him to try and figure out where his mind has really been at these past few months, and if he catches on to even a little bit of the subtext of what I've been saying here, he's gonna be like "oh shit, there is a lot more we need to work on than I thought."

and yeah, Megatron fucked up Starscream in ways that its gonna take years to properly unpack, so Starscream is lucky to have found quite possibly the best person to help him through it in Optimus. It's gonna be a rocky road, but Optimus is in for the ride.

and I do think this relationship could eventually become healthy, and I like reading fics where they've managed to make it healthy, but I do think at first it really wouldn't be, and as someone with the autism that makes you obsessed with themes and motifs and subtext, the process of seeing it become better, of seeing Starscream have to unlearn these old harmful defense mechanisms, THAT is really what makes my brain vibrate, especially because I've had to go through that same process myself after finally getting away from my personal Megatron for what I'm thankfully certain now is the final time.

also kinda realizing a lot of this kinda sounds like borderline personality disorder, which. that might be something I have to look into in regards to myself, damn. anyways, yeah, thanks for letting me kill the vibe again, appreciate it! I'll probably try and keep these shorter in the future, I imagine it's kind of a lot to suddenly have 1500 words of deep character analysis with hints of traumadumping suddenly thrown in your askbox lol. If this actually was a bit too much then I'm sorry, you can tell me to dial it down a little if you want.

and this, right here, is why starop is my favorite transformers ship.

you really hit the nail on the head with this one. when done well, it's not only cute and fun to explore, but it's also a deep dive into starscream as a character and what could possibly lead to a redemption arc. sure, you don't need starscream to fall in love with optimus to redeem him, but how that would actually play out is so fascinating.

sure, i love aus where starscream is an autobot spy the whole time. yes, i love aus where they were in love in the past and got separated. but the idea of starscream replacing megatron with optimus in his mind fits him so well, because, as an abuse victim myself, it's easy to find yourself drawn to people who remind you of your abuser.

and that's where optimus' kindness sets him apart, because when starscream pushes back on him, optimus doesn't do what starscream expects. he doesn't lash out or hit him or verbally berate him. he responds with honest concern, trying to figure out what's wrong.

and that kindness, that sincerity, is something starscream doesn't even realize he's been missing the entire time.

i do believe they have the potential to be healthy, but the fight towards them actually becoming healthy and helping starscream get out of his toxic mindset is part of what makes these two so damn compelling.

always happy to have another starop fan.

(also you don't have to worry about toning it down lmao, gods know i ramble like a maniac about my favorite things. i'm not gonna be the one to judge)

[weenwrites]

Cooking A Meal: Part 2

Summary - You ask one of the cons to cook you a meal, but honestly it goes about as well as you'd expect. Characters - Megatron, Shockwave, Starscream, Soundwave, Dreadwing, Knockout, Breakdown, Airachnid, Predaking, Darksteel, Skylynx Content - Crack Category - Headcanons Trigger Warnings - None

✎ A/N: This is an un-revised shitpost, not something too serious.

[ Please do not repost, plagiarize, or use my writing for AI! Translating my work with proper credit is acceptable, but please ask first! ]

Megatron

Don't even bother having him try to cook you something, he can't cook at all. More often than not he'll just send some vehicon off to fetch you a meal, but when he's actually put in a kitchen and told to cook a meal, he'll probably serve you a plate of charred... Stuff.

It reeks and honestly you can't even tell what it used to be. The most he knows about cooking is that humans always heat up their food. He doesn't know how cooked a piece of meat or a slice of bread has to be, and despite knowing how useful patience is, he can't bring himself to wait a couple minutes for a slice of bread to turn golden brown.

Even with some instructions he doesn't understand a single word on that page. What does "fold in the cheese" even mean?! All in all, the food tastes awful, the presentation is awful, and it's not even a nice experience, he somewhat cleans his mess, but still, it's an awful experience. Even your local fast food restaurant would serve something better than what he could make you.

Shockwave

He wouldn't be too bad at cooking... However the meal he's served you is most likely made from some artificial substitute... It's not bad, per say, and it has a higher nutritional value than everything in your kitchen combined, but... He didn't stand in a kitchen to make it, he stood in a lab and fabricated it. That aside, it's plain and has a bit of a weird taste, the presentation sucks, and it's not naturally made, it was fabricated in a laboratory. It counts as science. Not cooking. So nevermind, he'd be bad at cooking.

But if he were to cook, he'd get into the technicalities of all, and spout food science facts at you. He'd tell you all about how proteins in meat force out moisture through coagulation, and that's how meat cooks. Or how amino acids and simple sugars are rearranged to change the color of meat as it cooks. Unless you know about food science yourself, all it may sound like some scientific garble to you. Whether you implore him to continue or not is all up to you.

But just because he knows about the chemical composition of a cracker doesn't mean he knows how to make things taste good. He chooses things based on their nutritional value, not their taste. Everything from meal portions, to seasonings, to even the temperature it was cooked at is all carefully measured to ensure that you're getting your healthy fill of nutrients. He doesn't even allow you to season it afterwards, because any more seasoning would disturb the healthy balance.

Still, while it may be nutritious, it certainly isn't delicious, but at least it's 100% edible and extremely healthy.

Starscream

He didn't know humans cooked their food, he thought they just ate it as is. So you'll have to explain a lot of stuff to him before either of you actually get anywhere. But once he gets the basics down, he'll be off to a rough, yet good start!

He's very particular about the way things are organized in a kitchen, and he'll get real annoyed if you moved something like a spatula or a spoon he was using. He's sorta set up this organization system in the kitchen that works specifically for him and no one else. While it may look like a mess on the outside, it works really well for him.

He'd never touch raw meat, even if it were to cook for you. He just hates the feeling, so you'd basically have no luck at getting him to scrub a chicken down with salt and seasoning unless you gave him a pair of gloves or a brush. But even if he's a bit squeamish, he's very thorough with his work, and very patient too. But he does complain about how long it takes for things to prepare things and then cook.

Might be a bit burnt here, and a bit bland over there, but if you pick some parts out and sprinkle some salt, pepper, spice, or hot sauce on it, it makes for a solid-ish meal! Which is pretty impressive, given the fact he once knew nothing about cooking a few hours ago.

Soundwave

They're actually a really good chef, better than everyone else, that's for sure. Soundwave knows where and how to learn what he needs to know, so it wouldn't take long for him to research and grasp the bare bones of cooking. And after a couple of tries, they could definitely whip you up a 5 star meal that tastes like something the best chef in the world would make.

It's almost scary how fast he learns, but hey at least you're getting like one of the best meals in the world using cheap ingredients from your fridge. Like who knew ketchup could taste so good in place of fancy marinara sauce!

And because of the amazing meal he made, it's without a doubt that he is the undisputed best chef aboard the Nemesis and everybody else's skills immediately pale in comparison. If it were a competition, it would've been over the moment they joined.

Dreadwing

Like almost everyone on this list, he has no idea what to do, and he has no idea what humans eat, so it ends up being a bit of a lecture before he actually starts cooking. It might take him a bit, and he'll stumble here and there, but he's always quick to ask good questions to ensure he has a solid grasp on what he needs to do.

He's quick to pick up anything you teach him, like about cutting vegetables, or seasoning meals, temperature, et cetera. And in a while, he's able to follow a recipe rather well, only occasionally coming to you to ask a question about what "folding" or "basting" or "al dente" means.

He'd serve you a pretty solid meal all in all. But on the off-chance that what he made for you had caused you to get sick, he'd immediately and sincerely apologize to you, and most likely never make you a meal ever again.

Knockout

He has some knowledge around human cooking thanks to the internet, and it helps the slightest bit, but for the most part he'll be bugging you with all his questions about human cuisine and cooking.

And all the while he's cooking, he'll ask you to fetch him things like that kitchen knife over there, or that measuring cup—no, not that one. That one was used for wet ingredients, he needs the other one that was used for dry ingredients, now chop chop. The clock's ticking. Or he'll holler at you to come and help hold the bowl as he scrapes the mixture into another pan.

Surprisingly, the kitchen actually remains rather nice and orderly throughout it all. He fills your sink with water and just leaves the dirty dishes in there to soak, and cleans messes the instant they're made, which greatly helps with clean-up afterward! But he won't touch the dishes. He just hates the feeling of scrubbing grimy food off, so you're on your own unless you give him a pair of gloves.

But as for the food itself? It's... Semi-decent! He may have burned it a little, or messed up one of the steps, but it still tastes good and it's still edible. He even decorates it nicely! He'd chop any vegetables into cute little shapes, and he has a good eye for presentation. So it's pretty nice.

Breakdown

He doesn't know anything about human cooking. He does question where the heck human food comes from though, and the most he knows is that humans consume other organisms, which he finds really weird. So in the beginning, the whole cooking session might be more of an educational session than anything, but only so he understands what humans can eat and what he should be doing.

He technically doesn't do any cooking since he just makes you things like instant noodles or instant mac n' cheese. But he'll need a bit of supervising because with the noodles, he'll put the seasoning packet in the water while the noodles are cooking, and then drain the noodles because he thought that the noodles would absorb the flavor (same goes for the mac n' cheese), but it turns out that the cheese water just goes down the drain. So it technically isn't completely his fault that the food may taste off (because instant food doesn't always taste that good...) but he does mess some of the steps up which contributes to that.

But with a little guidance here, and a little trial and error there, he'll actually be able to whip up something pretty decent using the instant stuff as a base! He'll add things like chopped up vegetables or spice for some flavor in some instant ramen, or cook the macaroni in milk and add some mustard for mac n' cheese, or perhaps crack an egg and add some garlic into some insta-soup.

All in all, it's a pretty solid meal for his first time cooking. But does it really technically count as cooking if he used an already pre-made thing to make it?

Airachnid

If she didn't care about you as much as she does, she would've fed you something poisonous if she didn't ignore your request first. She's... A questionable cook... To say the least, but one thing's for sure, all the meat she uses in her cooking is fresh. And I mean fresh as in "she dragged that animal into the kitchen and slaughtered it on the spot" kind of fresh, which is ideal if you're eating something that requires super fresh meat like oysters.

She doesn't burn the food, but she most likely under-cooks it. As for seasoning, well, she doesn't add any, so whatever you're eating will need a whole lot of salt, pepper, and spices either to taste like something, or to distract from the horrible taste the food already has.

But while the food may taste weird, the presentation's interesting. It's something of an art, made from something you don't even think you can call "food" anymore, but it's interesting to look at.

All in all, the food tastes horrible, the presentation's neat, and you're 100% guaranteed to get food poisoning if you scarf the entire meal down (which you won't, the stench is bad enough to kill even flies).

Predaking

He can't cook at all—actually, he doesn't even know what humans eat, so you'll have to explain to him quite a lot. Even then, he'll probably just bring you a dead animal and assume that's enough. You'll actually have to lecture him on cooking meat, preparing ingredients, and whatnot. So this whole thing turns into a cooking lesson as opposed to doing actual cooking.

He soaks all that knowledge up like a sponge, and with his newfound knowledge of cooking he's able to make something relatively decent for you, if not leaning more towards mediocre! The meal is something simple, probably from a cookbook you have at your house (or on the internet...)

All in all, while it's below average, it's probably above-par by your standards, given the fact you just taught him how to cook a hot second ago. The presentation is simple, the food actually tastes good, so all in all it's a pretty average meal.

Darksteel

Surprise, surprise! He is the worst cook out of them all. And here you might have thought that Predaking or Airachnid would've been the worst, but nope. It's him. He'd most likely burn your kitchen down, if not trash everything you have, and waste everything you have in your fridge. The best he does is bring you a dead animal that he "cooked" by spewing fire at it. Then again it's most likely either overcooked or undercooked and would definitely give you trichinellosis, E. coli, BSE, salmonella, or whatever other horrible disease you risk contracting by eating what he's served you.

But what about vegetables? He doesn't even know what a vegetable is, and unless you give him a really thorough description of what counts as a vegetable or not, he'd most likely just uproot a tree or pluck a bush out from the ground and give it to you, mildly scorched, because he remembered that you have to cook it.

If you were to ask him about presentation, he'd probably pose the scorched cattle or chicken he got his claws on, set the crisp "vegetables" upright, and think that's good enough "presentation".

Bottom line? Do not eat anything he gives you, it'll absolutely destroy your stomach.

Skylynx

Yeah he doesn't want to. He'd hate cooking so much because everything takes so long to do! He's sensible enough to do some research and learn, or ask you questions for clarification, but waiting for water to boil just drives him crazy.

He tries to work diligently and be patient, but you might catch him cutting corners a little bit. How so? Well, he'd raise the temperature of the stove to get something to cook faster, or if he needs to carefully ground something into a poultice, he'll just smush it into paste. If you're having something simple like mashed potatoes, then he has absolutely no problem preparing that.

He doesn't pay much attention to how it looks, so while the food he serves looks unappetizing as he straight up slaps it onto your plate, it actually tastes pretty decent... Ish... Decent-ish. Sure your food may have come out a bit burnt, or you might find some weird chunks in it, but it's better than what Darksteel has to offer, that's for sure.

[winntir]

Things about my own Transformers universe that you didn't ask for and you'll just have to read about

Elita-One was an air commander before the war, and her relationship with Orion Pax was fraught with conflict because of their differing classes, military and laborer. Even worse was when they conceived a child, who was transferred from Elita to Chromia before its protoform could begin molding. They later had to send their child away during the war.

The Quintessons created the Transformers as two lines of robotic servants: domestic and military. Over the years, the widespread military bots eventually formed a united force to return to Cybertron, conquering it with the aid of the Fallen, a betrayer whose name was stricken from all record.

Jazz was one of the first scouts on Earth when considering it for long term colonization in the 20th century and came back with the name.

Also, Jazz is a femme.

Megatron is Elita-One’s dad. He was also one of the most prominent generals of Cybertron. He betrayed Cybertron during the beginning of the war to gain power, becoming one of the big Decepticon leaders. However, he’s not the leader of all Decepticons, just one warlord among many. He may have significant influence, and few would stand against him, but he’s not emperor.

No one can take Spike's name seriously. He’s also one of the first human allies the Autobots had on Earth. Every time a new Autobot comes to Earth, there’s a whole song and dance getting over his name. His revenge is never correcting an Autobot when they call a rooster a cock.

Any human character you can think of definitely exists. What exactly they’re doing varies. Miko is the tour guide at the Ark, the Burns family works with the Protectibots and the associated rescue ops, and Kelly is having her car hit on by Side Burn.

Side Burn came to Earth on the Ark in crystalline stasis. He's still the younger brother of Brawn and Prowl. Prowl is a ninja.

Several sparks were put into crystalline stasis for the voyage from Cybertron to Earth to make the most of energy and space. There’s a waiting list for new bodies, as protoforms are a resource of constant conflict. They could also be carried to term via gestation, but there’s always personnel shortages, and few are willing to set aside the long period of time to raised them back to maturity.

One of the quirks of using blank protoforms is that the revived bot discovers what their true alt mode should be. Obviously, they’re an Earth vehicle or animal, but their spark data assists the computer in deciding what to pick. This has led to several Autobots who were meant to be aircraft but made to be a land vehicle becoming an aircraft and developing a fear of heights (i.e. Blades, Silverbolt).

Any Seeker you see that shares Starscream's body type is one of his clones. He claims the origins were part of a tax evasion scheme from before the war, but he kept making them long after the start when that wasn’t relevant, and continues to do so whenever there’s an unattended protoform. The truth is he’s trying to rebuild Skyfire's genome based on his own, but the results are more and more flawed each time. He doesn’t realize he already perfected it years ago, and now, he’s just creating flawed copies of himself.

The Dinobots are 100% Wheeljack's kids. I haven’t figured that one out yet.

[mothiepillie]

POV: You're a roach

"You've gotta be fucking kiddin'..." - The Thing, 1982

Mimic is a new OC of mine I wanted to post because I'm finally out of my art block for now. Also can you tell I'm into transformers now lmao. I started watching transformers prime earlier in 2024 and went down the transformers hyper fixation rabbit hole like a dumbass and I've been loving Megatron more and more. Surprise shawty, another villain crush. But I remembered I have the power of art and can make anything I want and made Mimic and her backstory. So it's stupid and cliche but I like it. I'm still thinking of making a comic about it but I'm so lazy and can't focus on making one page let alone a panel so it's a hard maybe.

Mimic, Conjunx of Megatron/ Queen of the decepticons. She had the ability of taking on the appearance of any other cybertronian and using their powers to her advantage. She could also manipulate any part of her own body to transform into weapons or jets, wheels you name it to get by. But in her original form she's quite weak and relies on her reflexes to dodge a strike. Her chest and legs are made of a flexible material to change color, shape and any material to accommodate for her various forms whether robot/vehicle, the rest of her is pure metal and circuits. Her voice can change as well so it could be quite uncanny even to her when she's hunting down her target. She's still getting used to her body as she isn't 100% cybertronian. Whether or not she's actually a threat or just someone for Megatron to squeeze is totally up for debate to the other decepticons/Autobots since Megatron barely lets her out in fear she could get hurt again.

Mimic used to be a young woman named Violet, a energetic, kind hearted girl that lived alone on a small farm. And there's the cliche, a giant alien robot crashes on her farm. Violet earns the trust of Megatron by repairing him even enough he threatened her multiple times he'll kill her afterwards. She was determined to make sure he was functional and would die trying if she fails. Violet becomes his pet among the Nemesis, yet overtime Violet became more than a pet to him. He protected her from the other cons that found out about her presence on the ship. She was severely injured by a stray Autobot blaster shot which Megatron was devastated. He had her remaining intact organs used to power her new body that was made up of dead Vehicons and whatever was left of Makeshift after his demise. Since Violet renamed herself Mimic, she's still trying hard to fit in even though she knows she's an abomination. She can't eat, barely sleeps because of nightmares, nor can she feel pain, only hot or cold or pleasure. Now that she was crowned queen, she's determined to lead her new army to either victory or peace with the Autobots, though she is protecting her own home world by keeping the fights away from other humans.

Just a couple things of Violet before she became Mimic. Violet's past is a bit weird but I'm still trying to figure it out. Making new OC lore is so hard, especially when they start out with the cringe stage of making them. Right now I'm trying to make her story work and not too lovey dovey robot/human romance even though it kinda is lol. I like a little bit of angst n drama. I'm still trying to make her work by not making her that one OP character that can beat Goku lmao. I just want to make a cool character idea without making her sound cringe 😭 anyways. Thank you for reading if you read everything. I don't post on here often because I don't draw often and don't have a lot of good drawings to post initially. Also yes, I use bases because I'm super bad at perspective.

[jack-o-cel]

Watching g1 rn and here are my thoughts so far (Episodes 1-8)

Completely out of order btw

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[sees Cliffjumper]

Oh, wonder when he’s gonna die

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[Starscream about to do something painfully stupid]

Babe, no-

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[Upon witnessing Shockwave’s enormous bodonkers for the first time]

godDAMN-

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Megs: For once Starscream, I agree

Well that’s never happening again

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[Cliffjumper still alive]

This gotta be a world record

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Ratchet, I appreciate the effort, but you’re not beating Shockwave in the tiddy category

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Megs: I need assistance

Star: lol

Not sure what you were expecting, Megs

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[Megatron turns into a literal gun]

LMFAO this is almost as funny as your head being visible in a vehicle alt

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I’ve only had Jazz for a few hours, but if anything happens to him-

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[Skywarp taunting Rumble while in an ice cave]

I don’t think now’s the time-

[gets covered in snow]

See??? Oh it worked out lol

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Omg Skyfire!

Omg Starscream searched for him 🥹

He’s so nice to him🥹🥹🥰🥰

“And you’ll be my second in command”

BABE, YES❤️❤️

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Jazz: not a snowman, a snowbot!

❤️❤️❤️

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>:O no shoot at Skyfire

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Soundwave is just that guy, y’all don’t stand a chance

OMG look how cute Laserbeak is ❤️❤️

RAVAGE ❤️

RUMBLE ❤️

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Screamer shush, leave cinnamon roll Skyfire alone- NO! NO SHOOT >:O

You deserve better, babe

Optimus adopt him, please

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Megs, babe, he failed the first hundred times, why are you sending him to do it again???

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[Chip on Cybertron]

How are you alive-

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[Skywarp missing multiple missile shots]

Babe, how??? They’re not even trying to dodge???

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SKYFIRE NO!!!! 🥺🥺🥺😭😭

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[Spike finds a random ass cassette player in the mountains]

Spike: yeah this is normal

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lol he’s a camera

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Oooo! Underwater base, nice!

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Dinobots! Dinobots! DINOBOTS!

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Starscream being a former scientist is like a wizard with absolutely no wisdom whatsoever

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[Mishears Slugs name]

Who????

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Just a thought, maybe next time activate the Dinobots outside, away from important computers

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[Megatron, gone for .02 seconds]

“MEGATRON HAS FALLEN! I STARSCREAM AM NOW YOUR LEADER!!”

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100% convinced Megs only keeps Screamer around for entertainment

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“You’re too slow, rusty pants”

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“It’ll make them smarter”

Wheeljack, pretty sure you only made one brain cell between all three of them, and Slug never has it

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“YouRe sUpPosSeD to kNoW eVeRytHiNg??”

Babe-

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[Megatron trips]

“I STARSCREAM-“

[ogurizz]

my magnum opus: metalocalypse x transformers crossover

aka the most metal death metal band in the galaxy

separate designs + a bit of lore under cut

it's geared more towards metalocalypse fans, but if you haven't watched the show or don't feel like reading just enjoy the designs :)

it would be weird if they still had human names so 60% of my creativity went into making up new ones

au is based on idw 2005 comics, i'll put the canon lore into square brackets

[short history summary:

cybertron was ruled by functionists. they believed you must live according to your vehicle mode. so if you're a cement mixer, you will mix the damn cement until the end of time or else

eventually, a miner-turned-gladiator megatron said: "guys this is bullshit, everyone should have equal opportunities in life". a lot of people shared his opinion, so he gathered an army, named them decepticons, assassinated the government and the civil war broke out. it lasted four million years, a whole bunch of war crimes was committed on both sides. also megatron stopped giving a shit about equality and turned into a tyrant but that's irrelevant

post-war cybertron population was like.. 100 times smaller and had a hard time adapting to civilian life. maybe death metal wouldn't fix them but it would sure be cathartic]

SCRAGMUG, being a humble cement mixer, really vibed with megatrons ideas about equality and emancipation and all that. in reality decepticons assigned him on construction work again, with the only difference that he could get caught in artillery fire now. he compensates with making up heroic stories about losing his arm every chance he gets

war was kind of a social lift for DETONATE: he went from odd security guard jobs to elite decepticon storm troop. while he never cared about ideology, end of war still leaves him confused on what to do with his life now. therapy is for pussies, so he pours his ptsd into gory poetry on his secret datapad

he met scragmug once in a prison cell before the war, they both got into a mass brawl. the cement mixer talked his audial off while detonate stoically listened. decepticons soon opened the prison gates and scragmug left thinking they are besties for life (he didn't even get yelled at!)

DOUBLEKICK is from junkion, a literal garbage-dump of a planet where all fauna will try to eat you! its culture is 15% scavenging, 15% cannibalism and 70% earth tv. he had a pretty good relationship with his twin triplesnap, until this rat accidentally burned down an important storage building and blamed it on his bro

conveniently, decepticons were recruiting junkions at the time, so doublekick escaped the ostracism by enlisting as a mechanic. he became fast friends with scragmug and after the war they went to cybertron together, where he set up a workshop.

[short digression on spark bonds since this pair of fruits has one:

sparks are transformers' souls and hearts simultaneously, extuinguished spark = death. it's located in a spark chamber in the middle of a chest and powers the body.

there are two kinds of spark bonds: conjux endura and amica endura. first is similar to spouses, second - to best friends. to become amicas, you must perform a ritual: bare your spark to your friend, invite them to share your light and tell them how much you appreciate them :]

the guitarists are from camian, cybertron's long-lost distant colony, so the war didn't touch them at all. luckily for them, camian places a lot of value into art and culture. unluckily, it is also required to find an amica in 10 megacycles (about 93 hours!!) or face ostracisation. it's a religious thing

WINTERSUN has a total of three interests in life: flying fast, playing guitar fast, and fragging. social stigma would significantly limit the pool of sexual partners, so he chose his amica based on guitar skill. turned out this doesn't make a solid foundation for a healthy relationship. after a particularly nasty fight wintersun compulsively left for cybertron

SCRAPFANG has always dreamed of flying, he used mountains as springboards so he could get into the air for a few seconds. with this comes fangirling about planes, so he was ecstatic when a magnificent white jet became his amica, and making music together was amazing! he's determined to find wintersun, apologise and fix everything

... ok i also have a 1000 word google doc on how they all got together but no one will read that shit so i'm planning to illustrate some highlights from it. and design charles and maybe some other characters too. follow me for more robot art

+ bonus height chart, they're big boys!

[smoked-salmon-official]

Cliffnote anon again, back again with more word vomit,

This time about how I love Megatron and why he deserve to be use as a pinata by Victory while those who love them cheer them on and/or hold a lottery for others who Megatron also wronged to join Victory in whacking him.

Megatron, in any continuity, can only be describe as a character you can only love in fiction, he is a different flavor of awful in, aside from SG, every verse and I say that with love, there's a tumblr post that say that the reason why Megatron is fun to ship with is because he can make anyone WORSE, and I 100% agree.

There an aspect of Megatron that's pretty consistant in every iteration is a sense of narcissism self-centeredness, it's especially pronouce in the 'good' version, the 'good' version are still fucking awful even if they went through a whole redemption arc, and it stem from his self-centerness. The 'redemmed' Megatrons abandon the Decepticons and their cause, never mind before he went off the deep end and drag everyone with him, it was a revolution for the lower caste, the caste literallly called disposable and he fucking denounced it, as if the Decepticon Cause is something toxic that poison him and not the other way around.

https://www.tumblr.com/foxyturttle/129666158689/okay-but-consider-this

This post succinctly illustrate the way he had fuck over his own people for the Autobot Megatron verse, and well, you seen ES sooo, (I jusst read about him ordering the Peaceful Tyranny smelted and reread that post about him clawing off Victory's Deceptibrand and now I want to punch him too, I'll break my hand but it'll be worth it)

Have you read Radius of Action by sparkysheep414, it's a good read that also goes in to how Megatron have fucked over the Decepticon and still continue to fuck over them even when he gone to the otherside.

In the Victory au, Megatron literally didn't see them as a person but as a tool to use, he lead a revolution for the right of those treated like tools to be use and discard and he see nothing wrong with using a child as one. In the ES Good ending posts where Megatron appeared, I keep repeating 'how fucking dare you' under my breath, but what make me seethe is that if Victory au was canon to ES, I can legitimately see him having the audacity to do the things he did.

Here my 2 cents on Victory's feelings about their parents base on all that I got from metaphorically ragdoll'ing them like a wild animal. Victory loves Optimus and Megatron in a sense that they as the child are wired to want the love of their parents, even how they both fucking fuck them over, they unfortunately still occupy the parents image in Victory's mind and the child inside still want their parents to love them so bad.

Here the thing, I am of the opinion that had Optimus has full custody of Victory, they wouldn't have end up so fuck up, they would still have issues but they wouldn't be running away before coming back to kill everyone. Optimus is a parent but he's a Prime first, he had to put the whole race first before his own child, they know he does love them but unfortunately, he's a really good Prime.

Megatron, however, did fucking not, and Victory fucking knew it, hell, they literally have a parent who does love them to compare to but no matter how justified their anger is, their emotions still cling to the fact Megatron occupy the space in their mind with the label parents

Also, on a more funner note, I have an idea on how Victory can beat Megatron up like they deserve in the DJD ending, it tied in a bit with my Soundblaster on the Peaceful Tyranny II idea so I'm going to let it marinade a bit before sending it to you

Anyway, all that talk of Meg's failures remind me of fics that I think you might enjoy,

https://archiveofourown.org/works/61948042 The Wager, Megatron not in it but does go into how Megtron, even in the begining, was going to be the evil warlord waging meaningless war

https://archiveofourown.org/works/27176647

Oh, this one hold a place in my heart, it goes into Megatron's self-centeredness, his hypocrisy and how his self-centeredness is still fucking over the people around even as an Autobot, even as he's trying to be better

You know, the only reason I have so much criticism toward Megatron is because of his redemption runs. In reality, evil is boring and banal, in fiction, it's fun and exciting. Good, however, is hard and both fiction and reality. Had Megatron just stay evil, I wouldn't think much aside from an entertaint'd 'I hope horrible things happened to him' or 'Manifesting Victory beating him up with a lead pipe', but he didn't and here we are

hihihihihihihi I LOVE READING THIS STUFF TYSM

-you are right about megatron. he is absolutely a terrible person, but a good character.

-i have always enjoyed the exploration of even the bad consequences of redeemed megatrons, particularly in ES where he basically abandons the decepticons (why i like ES megasound - sooooo sad). and him denouncing the decepticon cause sucks too, but i think its more deouncing what it has become

-wow that post is AWESOME, that summarizes my feelings much better than i ever could

-i unfortunately have not but i will check that out!

-megatron ultimately becomes everything he fought against, and victory illustrates this perfectly. everything is a means to an end for him, he's willing to justify any horrible actions as long as it gets him to his "good" intentions of a peaceful/equal cybertron, etc. including using his kid as a political pawn. he was treated like a disposable tool and now he treats others like that

-peaceful tyranny and decepticon brand was just me going "how could i make things so much worse." peaceful tyranny is also a reference to lost light ending up disassembled and the marks over the con brand are meant to reference tf one sentinel branding megatron. so, megatron as become as to vicky as sentinel was to him (tf one is not canon to victory au!! i just thought it would be a neat parallel)

-you are right about victory's views on their parents. they still want love, approval, forgiveness, acceptance, even when it is absolutely objectively a bad choice to make amends to people who do not deserve your good grace and forgiveness. however, they feel like they will never be worthy to their parents as their child that they love and raise - not a weapon, or an heir, or anything else, just .. their kid. and they will jump at any chance to prove that they are. which is fucked up, but yeah.

-i absolutely agree with you! optimus is just, he didn't have enough time and his first priority is as you said a military leader and prime, and high command pressure dhim, etc etc. optimus and the autobots would have actually given victory a pretty good childhood and they would have grown up to be pretty okay - still issues of course, plenty of oppurtunities for angst, but pretty okay. the decepticon portion of their childhood is a big catalyst for the bad things that happen later. i place weight of responsibility on both their parents, but autobot victory would be fine whereas decepticon victory would be sooooo fucked up

-yes, part of victory can't help but still love megatron and still want his love back. but they still will hate them more than optimus, which is why in endings where they get part of their revenge, its always megs.

-YES LET VICKY BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF MEGATRON HE FUCKING DESERVES IT. also i need to see this send it to me send it to me

-thank you for the recs! i will add them to my reading list:) also if you are perhaps interested, i write fanfiction too and there is a fic currently up that explores this megatron's origins and past. (victory au was, after all, originally a fan continuity with its own lore and worldbuilding)

-i think i agree with you. megatron redemption is always difficult, but very, very interesting. even after becoming objectively good, there is still such a horrible mess .. i think idw explores this well, which is why there is much of an idw canon imprinted onto here

i look forward to hearing more of your thoughts! in the mean time, more lore and more art coming soon, most likely!

thank you again for enjoying this au and victory < 3

-one more thing you may note with interest: i am now converting earthspark ending to the good ending and subtly altering canon events so that earthspark can work very close to the real show. they are one and the same now! mostly because i dont want to write two endings that are basically literally the same. they will still be the sunshine and rainbow endings for me to write some fluff, but i really enjoy discussing the grayness of it too<3

[quibbs126]

So I decided to work on some more designs more characters in my AU starting yesterday, this being Megatronus/The Fallen and then Liege Maximo

They’ve already been here in the lore, they just didn’t have designs

I’m also not 100% on either of these designs, not just from a detail perspective, but overall. Like I wanted Megatronus to be purple, and have his head more resemble his canon designs in his Fallen state, but he really ends up just looking more like Galvatron. Like yes, he is supposed to look like Megatron, but maybe it’s too much. Or maybe I need to design Galvatron in this AU too, because he’s kind of also here (the Decepticon leader)

And with Liege, he’s predominantly based on his IDW appearance, with a couple other things, but his role is supposed to be semi-closer to his original role, and he’s a threat larger than a mere trickster. I guess when you’re a combination of official designs and most of those designs are twinks, you’ll end up a twink too, but still. Maybe he needs beefing up

And like I said, the helms. Megatronus’ looks too similar to Megatron or Galvatron I think (though the issue is again that I want to save his Fallen head for when he is The Fallen, and the heads that aren’t resemble the Decepticon logo, which he isn’t nearly as tied to here). And then Liege, I just don’t know if it looks good, it took a fair bit of tries and I’m still unsure

They aren’t horrible I don’t think (though I need to figure out the triangle shoulder anatomy), but they might need more work. I don’t know, tell me what you think about these designs

Oh and also, the Fallen design at the bottom. I meant to go full in with it, but I really don’t know how to design what I want, I’m not skilled enough. So he is left as sketch, because lining that would have been a mess as is

But a lot of his design comes from Trio/Evil Robot from Mega Man 8, since he really captures that vibe I want. I just don’t know how to use it right

I don’t know, hopefully I’ll figure something out eventually. I have to work more on breaking out of this standardization of the designs

Anyways, lore time for these guys. I think I’m gonna put it under a cut this time since I know I text wall a bit too much, we’ll see if it sticks

Okay, so starting off, I should probably mention that these two are not in the current day story, they lived and died centuries prior, and it’s been even longer since Megatronus looked like that, but they’re relevant to the lore, specifically Megatron

So starting with Megatronus, he was some sort of gladiator revolutionary, wanting a better Cybertron than the corrupt one he had lived in. I don’t really know the details of what he was fighting against, but basically he has like a modern Megs’ backstory, I’d say closest to IDW (that I know of), since this AU’s Megatron doesn’t. He was incredibly powerful, even trading out one of his arms for a powerful arm cannon to be better suited for battle (in this time weapons weren’t retractable, unlike the current day. Megatron’s arm follows the old rule for reasons and he doesn’t want people poking around his circuitry), and there was seemingly no foe he could not best

But despite what his gladiator reputation might lead you to believe, he was also a great intellectual as well, writing many poems and treatises that are still read and appreciated in the modern day (he did not trade out his writing hand). Not only this, but he was an incredibly empathetic and kind bot to those he fought for, saving his anger only for the corrupt leaders who deserved it

Unfortunately one day, the Mighty Megatronus simply disappeared, with no knowledge as to what had happened. Some assumed he died in glorious battle, some simply believed his rebellion against the ruling class finally caught up to him, some believed he may have gone into hiding, either from exile or because he had given up the cause. But regardless, without him there, the cause he strove for slowed somewhat, but his teachings and ideals remained, and eventually, the better, equal Cybertron he sought was attained. And while he did not lead the final charges to cause this, his influence on the revolution led to him still being remembered as an influential and respected figure

Sorry it’s a little vague, I really don’t know what specifically was the conflict Megatronus was fighting or what the corrupt Cybertron was about

But as for what actually happened to Megatronus? I don’t have the who yet, but someone managed to get the drop on Megatronus and capture him, and “punish” him for his actions. Megatronus was locked inside a massive armor, which ran with fire and would keep him perpetually burning, but never to the point of death, just eternal pain. And it would eventually fuse to his plating, meaning that trying to simply pull him out of the armor would kill him instead. Not only this, but his voice box was broken to he point where he can no longer speak any coherent words, only make noises, and his voice was also taken away by removing his remaining hand and replacing it with a claw, so he could no longer write either, to communicate with others

He would be locked within eternal suffering, while never being able to relay to anyone who he was, or any thoughts at all, only able to look on as bots run horrified at the terrifying monster they saw, as he would be left as nothing more than the mindless, savage gladiator the ruling class claimed him to be, with no other name given to this creature than The Fallen

Basically his life becomes pain, both figuratively and literally

Like I said, I don’t know who did this to him or specifically why, so I don’t really know what he did after this, but I do know that he eventually ends up working for Liege Maximo, mostly unwillingly, but without the strength and nearly the spirit he once had; the old him would have rather died than take any part in Liege’s schemes

So now let’s talk about Liege Maximo. While I don’t know what he is exactly, whether a warrior or a scientist (though I think he has to be able to do both), he’s definitely evil, and probably tried to either conquer or destroy Cybertron in the past

He also just so happens to be Megatron’s creator, as well as the creator of the Destron Virus that later created the Decepticons. And as for Megatronus’ involvement, Megatron was made in his image

Liege’s backstory is even more undefined than Megatronus’, but he once tried to do something bad to Cybertron, but ended up failing and presumably dying in some huge, probably lore relevant event that I think Alpha Trion was there for. The Fallen also definitely dies here, but we’ll get to that later

Megatron and the Destron Virus were key players in his ultimate plan (whatever it was), whether they were the next large phase in his plan that never came to fruition, or they were a backup should the main plan fail. But regardless, Megatron wasn’t supposed to stay locked in stasis for as long as he was, he was supposed to wreak havoc centuries prior to the current story. The virus also wasn’t supposed to make him docile either, the smoking gun here, but either Liege wasn’t as good a scientist as he thought, or he didn’t have time to iron out the bugs. But in current day, the virus has been unleashed and the Decepticon leader is following in his footsteps

I should probably mention, in case I haven’t said, the Decepticon leader is meant to be like, Megatron’s clone or something. He’s somewhere between Galvatron and BW Megatron. The main reason I’m unsure of the clone thing is that he was supposed to be made because the original Megs went AWOL, and lacks the flaw that made the virus affect him the way it did, but the issue here is: how did the clone get made in the first place? He couldn’t have created himself and Megatron wouldn’t have done it, and Liege would already be long dead. That’s why I need to think on it more

But back to Liege, let’s talk about his relationship with The Fallen

I half want to call them toxic yaoi? It might be seen like that, considering they are on some level, basically Megs’ parents, and in my head Liege has some sort of obsession with Megatronus/The Fallen, so much so that he keeps him as his attack dog essentially, and based his piece de resistance almost entirely on the former gladiator. But also, Megatronus had no say in any of the events that led him to Liege or what he does under him, and he utterly despises him, he’s just unable to do anything about him. Like if there’s yaoi, it’s entirely one sided, and LM’s absolutely emotionally and probably on some level physically abusive in this relationship (maybe not directly, but like he can control how much pain Fallen’s in)

I’m unsure if Liege was the one to turn him into this, but he does pose a strong possibility, I just don’t know if I want to go that route, seeing as how Liege is entirely separate from the corruption stuff (well he probably isn’t, but he wouldn’t be someone Megatronus knew before as an enemy of his)

But regardless of whether or not he was involved, he is one of the only people that knows the truth that The Fallen and Megatronus are the same bot. I heard once in a fanfics that Liege can read minds, and while I have no clue whether or not that’s true, screw it, he has some level of telepathy here. So he can hear The Fallen’s thoughts, the only way he has left to communicate, if only to himself, and so he’d find out the truth eventually. As the years and isolation and suffering continue, The Fallen’s thoughts probably deteriorate more in terms of cohesion and intelligence, which Liege laments, but not because he feels bad for him, and he won’t do anything about it, he’s just disappointed. Liege tends to hold one sided conversations with The Fallen, at least to anyone else that sees them, since The Fallen can only communicate in his mind

But he does hold his knowledge of this over the Fallen’s head, specifically the idea that he holds the key to any form of salvation from his torment, of someone finally knowing who he was that isn’t Liege. Liege will never give this info away, not unless it was actually beneficial in some way, and on some level The Fallen knows this, but he chooses to still hold on to the potential hope this brings of being free from his prison

The Fallen despises the villainy that Liege forces him to do, but he feels he has no choice, whether it bring him salvation, or the sweet mercy of death, and it was the latter he eventually found

Originally I was going to have it that Prima was the one who killed The Fallen, back when he was companions with Alpha Trion in my lore, and somewhere along the way they’d eventually discover The Fallen’s true identity (it might have been a mercy kill), but now that Prima’s role in the story is completely different and much farther back, I don’t think it was him anymore. But I do still think Alpha Trion knows his true identity, I’m just not entirely sure as to how. He also didn’t make this public knowledge, probably because of how Megatronus was remembered and how The Fallen was perceived in his time, as a force of pure evil, and that this wasn’t something that should stain the legacy of the great hero, especially when he himself never wanted it and knew nothing but pain from it

The Fallen was also aware of Megatron and Liege creating him, and while disturbed by the likeness to his former self, had no way to stop Liege from doing so. As for The Fallen/Megatronus’ views on Megatron himself? It depends on how articulate this version of him looking at this modern incarnation is, and when in his lifetime. Though it probably doesn’t really matter

Megatronus despises the evil he was created for and the destructive, violent nature Liege created him with, mixed with extreme disturbance at how similar Megatron looks to him. But he also knows that Megatron did not ask for any of this, it was his creator that intended him to be this way, and can’t really blame him. In the time before his death, he would have had mixed feelings on Megatron, but if he were to have lived, he would have tried to make sure Megatron could have had some amount of a decent life, and not be terminated before he ever comes online to prevent whatever plans Liege had, with the hopes that he could overcome what Liege had wanted him to be and there was some goodness in him. If he were to meet modern day Megatron? He would be absolutely delighted that the virus backfired on him so bad and gave him complete free will and compassion, and probably be extremely supportive of the bot he is now, trying to make up for his past, even if he doesn’t know the half of how significant it is to the current situation. Keeping a crucial secret from his team? Not the best decision, but it’s understandable why he doesn’t and goddamnit he’s trying at least. Pre-Fallen Megatronus would probably get along well with Megatron, though maybe be a bit more critical of his secret keeping, and wouldn’t have any of the prior context as to his situation. Also no clue why this other bot looks so similar to him and even has a name a mere 2 letters off, he’d probably question that, but Megatron wouldn’t have the answer to that either

And I think that about wraps up all the infodumping on these two? I don’t know, I have a lot to say on Megatronus

As for how they tie into the current story, Liege’s schemes are the basis for the Decepticon’s ultimate goal, but I don’t entirely know about Megatronus, outside of his connection/similarities to Megatron. I’ll have to work on that

But yeah, I think that’s about it for now. Now for sleep time

[sunrisecaminus]

Hello! I saw in your rules that you do not write for OCs, but I was wondering if you are comfortable with using characters from other shows, specifically Light Hope from the 2018 She-Ra and the Princesses of Power.

During the start TFP, Megatron returned from his 3 year journey from deep space. I was hoping that you may write how during that time, he found the planet Etheria, met Light Hope, and became a mentor for Mara. Overtime, he fell in love with Light Hope, an AI program gaining sentience from spending time with him and Mara. He found Dark Energon on Etheria but chose to stay for their sake. Later, Megatron and Light Hope became Conjunx Enduras. Once Mara discovered the true use of the Sword of Protection, to destroy the planet, she, inspired by Megatron, began a revolution, with her Squadron Grayskull to stop the First Ones from activating the Heart of Etheria project. When Light Hope retreated to her original programming, Mara isolated Etheria to Despondos and Megatron left to Earth. Time worked differently in Despondos, 1000 years passed for them, but only 3 for Megatron. Light Hope, finally escaping her programming after Adora destroys the Sword, fades away, but remembered Mara and Megatron in her last moments and sent herself to Megatron unconsciously sometime during Season 2. She then arrives on Earth with a 100% Etherian physical form. The large energy burst was detected by the decepticons and autobots, but Team Prime finds her first. She demands that she speaks with Megatron, they become hostile, but she insists. The autobots and decepticons later meet and Megatron says that he will trade her for an Omega Key. Everyone is shocked. The two talk and Light Hope asks who D-16 is, why he abandoned her, etc. At some point, Light Hope says that he will never understand what it is like to not be free, which led to Megatron telling her how the war started. At the end of the interaction, she hugs him, he awkwardly reciprocates and everyone watches confused. Miko makes a comment. She then says her systems are shutting down and Megatron calls for Knockout, they all end up in the Autobot base. What happens next is up to you.

My request is a long one and I completely understand if you cannot do it. Although, if you have not seen the show, I would high recommend it regardless. A lot of the specific details like the Heart of Etheria project or Squadron Grayskull are from the series.

I apologize anon, but I will not do any fandom cross overs. I will change the rules just in case others have this request, but this fanfic idea does seem really cool to do for people who like both shows. Also I will give 2018 She-Ra and the Princess of Power a watch!

[blueikeproductions]

Some CyberWorld stuff cropped up.

…Kinda.

Prices were revealed for the line.

Of note is the Scorponok toy that’s roughly 100 bucks. The price has led some to guess it’s similar to the Hot Wheels playsets with the car eating monster and assorted Batman and Paw Patrol transforming playsets.

It’s thought that if this is a transforming playset of some kind, presumably that means this Scorponok is likely based on the G1 version.

And it Transforms from base to scorpion, no robot. Of course the toy could also be based on Bay Scorponok…

At this point it’s hard to say without photos yet, but something similar to G1 Scorponok seems likely.

The other prices seem … ok. Toys are still expensive but these seem manageable? Unless Cyber Changers are more One Steps like Cog Changers, $14 bucks seems a little steep for that though. Hopefully they’ve retired that as the Cyberverse and EarthSpark One Steps clogged shelves my way for the longest time.

The Cog Changers aren’t moving much here either so maybe it’s time for a different approach. Fans do seem more intrigued at what all these toys will be and are hoping Hasbro is learning better lessons after the failure of CV & ES.

Another thing that sticks out is Megatron is indeed part of this toy line, but whether that means he evolves to Galvatron or Galvatron is a separate character we don’t know yet. For that matter we still don’t know if Megatron’s a bull or bulldozer, lol. Both would be funny. It seems then it’s only a matter of time before Bumblebee is also revealed if Megatron’s still involved.

The original listings didn’t explicitly name Megatron, leaving us confused if Meg Bull was Megatron or was a separate character, so this is new information.

Another thing that’s cropped up are the Swapticons.

It’s unknown if they’re related to CyberWorld (both this and CW DO make use of Grimlock and Snarl specifically), but the mention of a Jungle Mission implies a larger return to animals all around from this, CyberWorld and Wild King post ROTB.

The gimmick seems to be a revival of an aborted toy considered in the 80’s.

It’s still just as bizarre now as it was then, but at least the pairs for the Swapticons make a little more sense.

The weirdest pair though are Nemesis Prime and Clench.

Both that Hasbro seems hellbent on making Nemesis a proper character (RiD Scourge aside), and that Clench is remembered. At all. He’s incredibly obscure, and certainly a unique choice.

Hazarding a guess the toy might use the “Laser Prime” body type since that fits what Clench usually turns into the best.

Shadow Panther and Ravage is also funny because depending on the continuity, they’re the same character!

The Beast Wars versions are, unsurprisingly, usually repaints of Cheetor. Apparently Shadow Panther is supposed to be a separate character in Japan, but some Beast Wars stuff in America tried to make him into Ravage to tie into his role in the cartoon.

How this Swapticon version works I don’t know, as I would think G1 Ravage would be the dominant one, but I don’t know if I see this turning into a cassette. Maybe it’s loosely based on BW Ravage?

Or it’s just a Cheetor/Tigatron repaint and I’m overthinking it.

The aforementioned jungle pack is probably the Dinobots, the cats and maybe Nemesis and Starscream?

Hopefully the Swapticons have better luck than the EarthSpark Tacticons, as those finger puppets keep clogging pegs my way. No one wants Hashtag and Arcee that badly it seems.

Also can we go back and use Swapticon and Tacticons as actual factions? They sound cool by name alone.

[mythicaldemigoddess-of-deltarune]

Why Am I The Last To Notice That Soundwave (from EarthSpark) Has Large-Hips...?

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I can’t help but have the word “Mom-Hips” pop into my head when finally noticing how large Soundwave’s (from EarthSpark) hips are....

okay even though not everyone who has such large hips, will automatically be a “Mom” but after seeing some fan art of Soundwave from EarthSpark, and then I had to double check from a image of Soundwave from the show to see if his hips are in fact like that........and well, it seems to be true.

why is it I’m the last one to finally notice this, even if I did see the episode but this....oh my gosh, the whole “Mom-Hips” comes to mind and I know that is just me being weird, and well I can’t help but view TFA-Soudwave as not being 100% the same as the Original Soundwaves like from TF-G1, TFP and even Earthspark, because TFA-Soundwave is more of a Soundwave Jr. to me now, like Soundwave Sr. could be like a Dad figure to him....

wouldn’t be surprised if Megatron based Soundwave Jr. on a Decepticon he use to know who had the same name as him, like some of Soundwave Jr.’s blueprint designs being based on the Original Soundwave, and the Original one could look like a TFA version of the Soundwave from TFP...

well Soundwave from TF-G1 and TF-Earthspark, is technically Frenzy, Rumble, Laserbeak and Ravage’s Dad/Sire...

and given how the IDW had made Scorponok the whole Fanon “Carrier” into Canon....

seriously, I can’t be the only one who had figured out that even if I had to look it up and find it out myself and sometime I need to read the full comic sometime...

that Scorponok had just made the fanon into canon, the Transformers becoming Carriers has become canon, I repeat, it has become canon people, this is not a drill! XD

well at least Soundwave doesn’t have to worry about some people pointing out how big his aft is, I mean that can be a bit embarrassing to some who don’t want it be point out.....it’s one thing when it happens in a fictional movie or show or a book, but it happening in real life can probably be real life embarrassing...

it’s like even if I did end up losing a lot of weight thanks to that first depression that happen in 2015, why couldn’t I.......no, never mind...forget it...

but the point being it might be possible that some Mech and Femme will have large hips, that I guess could be seen as “Caretaker Hips”...           

Scorponok has already made the whole “Carrier” thing canon, so we know the hatchling/sparklings will be carried and be visible by the chest area of the Cybertronian...thanks to Scorponok....who shouldn’t be confused with the one from Beast Wars. 

and of course the thing that pops in my head, after finally realizing and noticing that Soundwave from EarthSpark has large hips, is that the whole he has “Mom-Hips”.........which once again, I know not everyone who has large hips are automatically Moms.......but it fits Soundwave, since his technically a parent.

a Caretaker in theory, is the Sire/Dad or Carer/Mom who takes care of the young ones, like the hatchlings or cassettes.

while their life-partner is off at work, and if they both have work, then the Caretaker will find someone to babysit, but they are still the Caretaker.

no matter if they are the Mentor, Sire or Carer.

and yes I am very much aware it’s weird to view Soundwave having “Mom-Hips” I’m weird enough to have that thought pop into my head...XD

I already talked about in another post on my view on Megatron and Optimus from EarthSpark, technically being Eon-Boomers. 

and don’t misinterpret the whole “Mom-Hips” thing, like I had pointed out before.

I don’t like it when some of the things I say gets misinterpreted in a very wrong way....and depending on how it is, there can be hurt feelings on both sides.

which is why I want to try a bit better to make sure my words don’t get misinterpreted....at least I am trying to.

well my having the whole “Mom-Hips” pop into my head when finally realizing that Soundwave from EarthSpark has large hips...

isn’t the weirdest thing to pop into my head...

that would be calling Optimus from EarthSpark, a Himbo Prime.

and maybe me calling Megatron from EarthSpark, a Sweetie Energon-Pie.