#muslim damian wayne al ghul

[rollerskate2theface]

Thinking about Damian Wayne-Al Ghul fasting during Ramadan in full for the first time the year he moves in with Bruce. He did intermittent fasting throughout the rest of his life but he was still a kid and Talia thought fasting would impede his training.

Little 12-year-old Damian studying the Quran between classes at Gotham Academy. Alfred preparing an Iftar buffet for him before his patrol and suhoor for once he gets back. Bruce keeping multiple water bottles in his utility belt so that Damian stays hydrated through the night. Dick participating in the fast with him despite not being Muslim because he knows it’s Damian’s first time fasting and that takes a lot of discipline. Barbara taking him to an all halal grocery store before Ramadan starts to stock up on food so he doesn’t have to waste energy shopping during the fast. Damian praying 5 times a day just like he always did with his mother and grandfather. Jon asking Damian TONS of questions about fasting and Damian acting annoyed but also being kind of happy that his best friend is interested in his religion.

[iamumbra195]

Not really in the DC fandom and I don't really read many comics but I've been seeing some videos and posts making headcanons about the Al-Ghul family being Muslim and it pisses me off so much.

This interpretation is deeply rooted in Islamophobia and the ignorant notion that every Arab is a Muslim and therefore a "terrorist". The Al-Ghuls are not and have never been Muslims and any parts of the religion found in their characters are likely due to the fact that Arab culture has a lot of aspects of Islam mixed into it and because again, people think that being Arab and being Muslim are the same thing and a lot of the comic writers are white Americans who commonly have this misconception about Arabs.

I'm not going to go into the specifics of everything because 1) I don't know all that much about canon and 2) this is a little hard to explain but I will give several examples that pretty much disprove that headcannon because The Al-Ghuls do things that are considered major sins in Islam on the daily.

Ra's runs an assassin league/cult and despite what many people think killing people is a major sin in Islam except in very specific scenarios where it may be excused like in self-defence or in war. And what the Al-Ghuls do? That isn't excusable in any way.

Ra's' name in and of itself is proof. His name means the Demon Head and I promise you a proper practicing Muslim would not call themself that or commit the atrocities he has on innocent people. I don't know if this is true but I saw on the wiki that apparently a character named Gerhardt asked him if he was a man or a fiend from hell and Ra's, said that he was both and neither and that he was "Ra's al-Ghul". A Muslim would not associate themself with Hell, a place where evildoers are punished in the afterlife.

Talia committed zina (fornication), yet another major sin, and wears extremely revealing clothing despite the fact that modesty is an integral part of the religion.

The Al-Ghuls drink wine, eat pork and apparently Damian was often fed ox blood soup as a child despite the fact that all these things are explicitly forbidden for Muslims to consume in verses of the Quran. (To clarify a bit, in case you're confused about the ox blood soup, Muslims are forbidden from consuming animal blood because it is considered filthy and harmful, much like pork and wine.)

Not to mention the whole thing about Ra's nearly being 500 years old and the Lazarus Pits apparently reviving him every time he dies... but that's a whole can of worms I don't know enough about to open

So yeah, the headcanon that the Al-Ghuls are Muslims perpetuates harmful stereotypes about Islam as a whole. There probably is more to be said about this topic but unfortunately, I haven't read many comics and have only watched a few of the DC animated movies so I can't say much more.

Feel free to correct me if I've said something incorrect or missed something important.

[redrobinsrobbingrobin]

I think it’s important to note that headcanoning Damian to be Muslim is NOT inherently problematic.

Headcanoning him to be Muslim because the league of assassins are known to be terrorists IS problematic.

There’s a difference between good representation and representation in a bad way.

In my Muslim Damian AU, Talia grew to respect and resonate with her religion, and taught Damian her way. She’s not perfect, and neither is Ra’s, but I do believe that even if they only follow a few teachings (Ramadan, five prayers) it could just be for spiritual reasons (fasting to sharpen the brain and meditation). I think Damian would be able to acknowledge that Ra’s and Talia’s version of Islam isn’t the version he’s being taught at Masjid Halima in Gotham, and accept that.

He knows and understands that the league is radical, and he knows that a lot of the time, it’s out of concern for the environment (sometimes), which he can relate to. He may not agree with what they do, but he can accept that they’re different and maybe, just maybe, attempt to show Talia next time she’s in Gotham.

(This went into too much detail into my little Gotham AU, but my point stands. Be respectful.)

[batmobilestires]

head canoning Damian as Muslim is so special to me

i like to think that he accepted Islam after his time with the League of Assassins (bc associating the religion to what’s essentially a terroristic cult, along with assuming he’s automatically Muslim just because he’s half Arab, is a little Islamophobic)

i imagine Damian exploring various sets of beliefs while on his journey to unlearn the violence that was taught to him as a child. he ends up resonating with Islam as a prominent theme of Islam is peace and mercy.

with that being said, Eid al Adha Mubarak to my fellow Muslims!! May Allah SWT accept all of our duas - free Palestine and end all other oppression Ameen

[what-shitfuckery-is-this-ew]

i'm begging non-Muslims to not headcannon Damian as Muslim without heavy research because y'all keep saying he's Muslim just because he's Middle Eastern

[almostpoetic0-0]

The concept of Damian growing up with a Muslim shower(bidet) as he grew up in a Arabic country and just talia packing him an empty bottle(if yanno , yanno) and telling him to use this to go to the bathroom in his European tour or however he really to the Manor, with a separate Muslim shower attachment (for when he get to the manor for installment) as well and like poor bby dami confused and asks his mother if it is a training exercise and Talia just freaking longs sighs and says that the west doesn't have Muslim showers like us and they u paper to clean there butt and

DAMI JUST HORRIFEID LIKE NO WATER ???

AND LIKE HES WILLING TO BEG UMMI NOT TO SEND HIM. And then he's like but my FATHER(baba) would not be stupid enough right he must be rich enough to use water to "do the stuff right " and once again he is disappointed

And like in the background Jason had his dip already sneaks into the league to like steal a Muslim shower for himself (he grew up on the street he has to feel clean or ptsd yanno) and Ra's is so proud that ATLEST SOMEONE from the west cherises cleanliness and doesn't even care abt hurting Jason (he's like a scientist showing of his discovery) like HERE U WANT ONE TAKE IT,I HAVE A GOLD PLATED ONE TO TAKE THAT TO. Like just Muslim shower appreciation bro and Eastern culture to but mostly Muslim shower

Also the food don't get me started on that bby used to having whole a** chilies but like he's comes to USA and EVERYTHING IS SO BLAND W H Y. He has to call his mother and ask her with increasing desperation if he can come back and to at least send him a cook he is a prince after all.

Everybody at the Manor is confused abt him not eating food and putting hot sauce on everything because that's what he has been led to THE HORROR. Alfreds British and even after all that colonization BY TRADING FREAKING SPICE through the subcontinent their food is still pretty bland and Dami is so salty abt this to Alfred

Dami: Ummi these people don't even know what seasoning is, Ummi. Plz is this punishment for the time my tiger ate your dress mother. Father(baba) doesn't even know how to install a Muslim shower Ummi

And talia amused on the inside and telling to preservere and think of it as training

And just yeah a biracial person guide to THE WEST

I would like LOVEEEE to read a comic written by a Eastern writer about Damian having to adapt to the west and that being harder then any training cus he like are these people senile or poor to wipe ther butt with paper and to think that mandi (pretty sure there might be veggie options in this to) is just orange friend rice to them like where is the FLAVOUR 🤌

[they-reap-what-we-sow]

Damian participating in Ramadan

because I want to put my blorbo into my situations

-Damian claims that he should be allowed to go on patrol still, but does acquiesce to only doing recon or protective missions. 

-Sleeps almost all day except to wake up for prayers, and then like an hour before sunset to ready himself for his day (a la Saudi Ramadan)

-Goes on patrol after Taraweeh, hides his costume under his thobe- everyone in the mosque can definitely see it but they’re all ignoring it. 

-Eats suhoor right after patrol, Alfred keeps it warm and ready just as he arrives

-Everyone else is very conscious of their eating during the month, literally running out of rooms if Damian is in it and they’re eating- Damian really doesn’t care though

-WE has a big employee Iftaar Gala- the one and only party that Damian is ever excited to go to

-WE also does open Iftaar every night for employees and anyone on the street who can use an extra meal at night

-Damian makes a concentrated effort to be nicer to his brothers during this month, which got more than a few concerned responses the first year, but now they all just appreciate the break and try not to antagonize him too much

-Once, there was an all hands situation before sunset and Damian insisted on helping- he had to take a second to break his fast, and then it took another half hour to explain to Riddler what he was doing; “Not even water???” “...No, not even water.”

-Bruce keeps emergency rations in his belt at all times, but he’s a little extra prepared during Ramadan in case they lose track of time or get caught up in a fight so that Damian can still have a Suhoor meal.

[thenerdsofcolor]

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[fluffykitty149]

Okay haven’t really posted much Damian content in a while but I just reblogged a post about Muslim Damian Wayne and as an Arab Muslim I’d like to offer my two cents.

Before I start this discussion I want to say I get it okay? Islam as other religions have been used to spread violence and hate and I don’t condone any of it. Those type of people misuse the texts that are taught and I can only hope they see the truth and stop.

With that said let’s talk about why some people headcanon Damian as Muslim. For some it’s just a fun projection. Being Muslim and seeing your favorite character being Muslim is a fun thing! For those I caution you to be careful about how you choose to portray it. Some Islamaphobic rhetoric is so ingrained into stories we can become blind to it.

For those who aren’t Muslim I want you to ask yourselves why. Some people automatically assume the Al Ghuls would/should be Muslim because they’re Arab but not every Arab is Muslim and not every Muslim is Arab. That not even to mention that Ras himself doesn’t seem to worship any deity and quotes himself as a man of science while his mother seems polytheistic.

Some might see the religion/culture fascinating and want to add it to the narrative as a form of representation. I am all for positive representation but be sure to do your research on it prior. Not just on representation but the religion itself.

Some want to use it in a negative light and I’m not going to give you guys the time of day for that.

For those of you who want to write Damian as Muslim please take into consideration the fact that the League doesn’t seem to follow any major religion and predominantly works like a cult. Maybe Damian could convert post leaving the League.

If you really want Damian to be Muslim in the league listen up. If you’re going to do that, have Islam be what teaches him morals and not meeting Bruce. Islam is all about compassion and mercy. It’s such an important part of our religion that to be without it is to go against it. We quite literally have a month dedicated to fasting to make us empathize with those lacking in our resources, making someone pay interest is a taboo in our religion because it’s acknowledged as a tool used to prey on the weak, and charity is such a huge part of Islam it’s one of the five pillars. There is an entire system dedicated to figuring out how much is the minimum you should give. And these are just the things I can think of from the top of my head!

Don’t have him learn about Islam through a member, terrorist group cult Muslim assassin is an ick but how about through learning about different religions? Maybe Islam spoke to him. That’s all for now since I’m not in analysis mode but asks are open for whenever!

[redrobinsrobbingrobin]

My newest newspaper clipping, straight from the gazette! (My dying ibisPaint)

Based on my fic, Damian Al-Ghul’s first Ramadan with the Wayne’s!

[g1rlr0b1n]

My Grown Up Damian Wayne Headcanons:

The reason Damian's speech pattern can come off as odd or stiff is because English is his third language; his first language was Arabic and then he learned Cantonese. Damian has an accent which he hid most of his childhood to blend in with other Gothamites and vigilantes but when he would get emotional it would come out. Sometimes when he didn't have the words to express what he was trying to say in English, he'd substitute in Arabic words because he was most confident in his first language. As he got older he had to come up with a public persona since he was being forced to be in the public eye more and actually had to speak to people. He decided to allow himself to speak freely with his accent as Damian Wayne but Reporters still tend to stay away from him because he's the 'boring' Wayne and no one wants a quote from the eloquent and soft spoken one. He's fine with that. (Robin has a Gotham, New Jersey accent.)

Even though Damian isn't necessarily practicing, he identifies as Muslim. He even participates in some of the holidays such as Ramadan. He has memorized most of the Quran and can quote it with ease. It holds a special place in his heart and he does a lot of outreach within the community.

Damian's favorite sibling is actually Cass, he doesn't go around announcing it though because he knows it would hurt Dick's feelings but he grew really close to her in his late teens. They have a lot in common, like their similar childhoods and difficulties with building and maintaining relationships; He likes that he can talk to her about those things. Damian puts Cass in the highest regard, he's not too proud to admit she's the better fighter. He uses it to his advantage, sharpening his skills by sparring with her frequently. During team up sparring sessions they aren't allowed on the same team.

Damian has a veterinary medical degree but he also has a general medical degree so that he can practice medicine on humans too. He was already in school to become a vet when Dick's wife went into labor while Dick was off planet, they were too far from a hospital to get there in time so Damian delivered the baby. It was such an exhilarating experience that he decided to get a second medical degree to practice human medicine and to help his family out more. (sidenote: Dick's wife has not let him live that down). For a while he even acted as the new 'Alfred' staying completely out of the field and going by the code name ‘Lazarus’, but once Bruce retired and the mantles shifted around he started going out on patrol more because no one likes a backseat surgeon.

Damian had his name legally changed when he was 18 as a birthday gift to himself, he wanted to honor a legend. His name was legally changed to Damian Alfred Al Ghul-Wayne. His father cried when he saw his updated driver license.

[zeynyukine3011]

In Turkey (which is a country most of the population is muslim) many people fear jinns. Even there is turkish horror stories, movies etc revolving around jinns. Some people even fear to say their name. They call them "three-lettered-ones" as in Turkish they are called "cin".

I absolutely love this headcanon. 💗💗

So Damian can use magic. It's canon.

Although it's never explained how?

So I got an idea for an AU.

There are these things called jinns.

As mentioned, it exists in the religion of Islam, and is feared in most of Arabic countries.

( Jinns also exist in my culture, so I don't mean to offend anyone or spread misinformation. So feel free to correct my mistakes. )

First let's talk about what a jinn is. It's believed that jinns are beings that are invisible to the humans and live in another realm. People can't see them because the frequency of eyes aren't meant to percieve in that space.

Also on an important note, not all jinns are evil. Just like humans, there are good and bad ones. Jinns also like humans, have their own beliefs and religions.

Although humans can't percieve them, jinns can see humans very clearly. And sometimes interact with them. I mentioned previously that humans can't see them, but it's not always true. There are some cases where humans see and interact with jinns, and even have relationships with them. But, it's strictly forbidden for humans and jinns to interact with each other and it's regarded as a sin.

Some jinns can also take the shapes of an animal. Or sometimes they can posses people in order to get revenge.

Also while researching that topic I came across this:

Now going back to my AU:

Ra's al Ghul, while creating the the Lazarus Pit, made a contract with a jinn. And with that, Ra's gained a secret ingredient: magic. Ra's achieved eternal life, and became more tangled with the jinn's realm.

When Talia was born, he made another contract with another jinn and binded them together. This protection could be from anything. Magical or physical.

When Damian was born, they continued this tradition and binded him with a jinn. Now this is where it gets interesting.

The jinn would most of the time, chill in an animal form around Damian. And protect his soul from being possesed with other beings when he was sleeping. That's where he gets his love for animals.

The jinn would also channel their energy into Damian to enable him the use of magic. That's why sometimes people would get restless and disturbed when they'd be around him.

It would also explain why did Damian went to Hell after his death. Because interacting with a jinn is considered a sin.

Anyways I might think of this one more thorough and share more of my ideas of this AU. Also please comment if anything in this post is offensive or a misinformation so I can edit it.

[ao3feed-brucewayne]

Damian Al-Ghul's first Ramadan with the Waynes.

read it on AO3 at https://ift.tt/LKMUThz by JMApologist Ramadan is finally here for our beloved baby Robin! However, he never told his family he was a Muslim, afraid of being judged or mocked for it. He knows they wouldn't, of course they wouldn't, but Gotham, with all its prejudices have always been very biased against the Middle East and Islam. (I promise it's good, I'm just shit at summaries) Words: 423, Chapters: 1/?, Language: English Fandoms: Batman - All Media Types, Batman: Wayne Family Adventures (Webcomic) Rating: Not Rated Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Characters: literally everyone, Skylar (Batman: Wayne Family Adventures), Damian Wayne, Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Stephanie Brown, Tim Drake, Bruce Wayne, Cassandra Cain, Barbara Gordon, Alfred Pennyworth Relationships: Dick Grayson & Damian Wayne, Tim Drake & Damian Wayne, Jason Todd & Damian Wayne, Damian Wayne & Damian Wayne's Pets, Tim Drake & Dick Grayson & Jason Todd & Bruce Wayne & Damian Wayne, Damian Wayne & Everyone Additional Tags: Fluff, Islam, Islamophobia, Islamic References, Muslim Damian Wayne, muslim author, yall ramadan is nearly here??, Batfamily (DCU), Good Sibling Tim Drake, Theyre all good siblings, They're all so stupid as well, I can't tag lmao, iamophobia in the comments will not be tolerated, Ramadan, implied/referenced eating disorder, its mostky crack tho, Promise read it on AO3 at https://ift.tt/LKMUThz

[batboyblog]

please reblog because I'd love to see the thinking of the whole fandom on this matter.

[ao3feed-timkon]

Watchin' the Waynes

read it on the AO3 at https://ift.tt/Ceylr01

by White_Tape_01

“You can say we’re all here because someone leaked a video of our dear Timmy’s face getting covered in cum.”

Tim groaned and hid his face in his hands. He never should have let Kon film them.

“It’s not my fault Kon doesn’t keep a password on his phone!”

Everyone froze and gaped at him.

Fuck.

Words: 4362, Chapters: 7/?, Language: English

Fandoms: DCU, Batman - All Media Types

Rating: Teen And Up Audiences

Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings

Categories: F/M, M/M, Multi

Characters: Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Tim Drake, Damian Wayne, Bruce Wayne, Selina Kyle, Ra's al Ghul, Barbara Gordon, Alfred Pennyworth, Kon-El | Conner Kent, Original Female Character(s)

Relationships: Dick Grayson/Jason Todd, Jonathan Kent/Damian Wayne, Selina Kyle/Bruce Wayne, Tim Drake/Kon-El | Conner Kent, Tim Drake/Ra's al Ghul, Tim Drake/Ra's al Ghul/Kon-El | Conner Kent, Ra's al Ghul/Kon-El | Conner Kent

Additional Tags: Alternate Universe - No Powers, Civilian AU, Alternate Universe - Reality Show, Reality TV, Aliases, Pseudo-Incest, Polyamory, talking about sex, Light Angst, Implied/Referenced Rape/Non-con, Implied/Referenced Self-Harm, Implied/Referenced Homophobia, its not actually that bad, theres one bit thats really sad, but thats it, Gay Damian Wayne, Muslim Damian Wayne, Original Male Character(s) - Freeform

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[fluffykitty149]

No but seriously as an Arab Muslim THANK YOU!!! Don’t get me wrong, if you’re Muslim and want to see your favorite as Muslim totally valid but I sure as heck don’t want him being Muslim while in the league. I’m already declining in my fandom enjoyment with the mircoagressions sprinkles everywhere and it’s infuriating.

For those who desperately want Damian to be Muslim prior to meeting Bruce let him be Muslim in spite of the league. Let him learn about Islam through lessons. Let him be intrigued by the history and let him grow his morals through the Quran to value life and give mercy and kindness. It would make it a so much more compelling story than him learning it through a white man.

There is a lot of stigma around Islam. And I can fully admit that there are those in power who manipulate the texts and misuse the surahs to spread violence and hate. But I am so sick of only the negatives ever being portrayed. We literally dedicate a month to fasting to teach us to empathize with the less fortunate, a pillar of our religion is charity and it’s taught to only give what you can afford, heck even making someone pay interest is taboo in our religion because it’s acknowledged as taking advantage of the poor.

If you’re a Muslim who wants to see Damian being muslim too ofc you can headcanon him as so but sometimes even stereotypes about ourselves can fly over our heads. For those who aren’t Muslim I want you to ask yourselves why you’re making him Muslim? Do you believe he can learn good morals from it? Do the holidays interest you? I’m asking that you do research prior to writing him as Muslim before you put anything out there and be wary of Islamophobic beliefs.

Common head canon I don’t understand: Damian being Muslim. I mean, I could understand if he converted after moving to Gotham or something? But growing up a member of an ecoterrorist murder cult led by a quasi-immortal supervillain seems like it would preclude being raised in any major religion. But I could be wrong! Please let me know if you have an explanation!