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imthepunchlord · 1 year ago
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Possibly How It Should Have Been
Gosh, I've just thought about it sometimes, as I'm largely trying to turn my creative focus onto something more enjoyable than ML (hence less writing for ML fics), but sometimes I just can't help but focus on it. Cause it's a great concept and it's butchered and that bothers me so much.
And there's SO MUCH that could've been done to improve it. Some of which could be easy tweaks. Some of which needs massive overhauling. Some of it is just picking a lane, staying in that lane, and you follow the road to progress.
It's a great concept with a LOT of possibilities and ways it could've been done. I've actually thought about possible ML Rewrites a few times, I even reached out to a friend to try and help develop a Rewrite that we could've collabed on cause I was struggling to much to decide, and we both just got stuck cause there's so many options for characters and what could possibly be done as we could see so many pros for each option.
And of course, part of the pondering that came to my mind was seeing promising improvement with kwami swaps.
Like, Marinette and Adrien may have developed better if they had each other's miraculous. Plagg could've been the ideal foil to Marinette as he's the opposite of her in every way, addressing her overworking herself, prioritizing others over herself, and caring so much about her responsibilities that it just weighs and stresses her out. And with Adrien and Tikki, she could've helped him develop as an actual, step up in responsibility, learn to take on duty, to care about others over himself. She also would've helped him get the plot rolling, as Adrien is a stagnant character but Tikki is not. She's going to get him involved into the Agreste plot whether he wants it or not, and in turn, he's going to get Tikki to learn to be more attentive and considerate of her holders cause things can go south for Adrien very quickly if she pushes too much.
Gosh, another great kwami swap that could've been done that could've improved a lot was switching up who are the leads. I always wondered if Tikki and Plagg TRULY would've picked Marinette and Adrien, also if they were even the right picks now that we know that Fu doesn't know everything and is running on limited knowledge. As far as we know, they ARE the wrong picks for these two. And considering there was an ep of Tikki and Plagg picking their own users, I now wonder if Alya and Nino should've been our actual leads.
How Alya was initially as Scarabella screams to me that it would've better served in the Origins as a starting hero. Alya also has promising potential arcs as a starting hero, especially as being a superhero is her living her dream:
There's the struggle of balancing her civilian and hero life, she can learn that the civilian life is just as important.
She can learn that being a hero isn't all glory and isn't always easy.
She can learn the importance of secrecy, and what happens if she exposes herself to the public or to a friend (probably Marinette).
And a lot of the lessons Tikki is involved with would make more sense with Alya, who does get tunnel vision and isn't good at listening to others and isn't so considerate and can be very pushy with her own agenda. Alya naturally aims for the leadership position and Tikki wants her Ladybugs to be leaders, so Tikki can help guide Alya to improve as a leader. Lastly, Alya will challenge Tikki on her call outs, which could at certain points help established that Tikki isn't always right and is open to learn and adapt too. And Alya could busy herself looking into HM, making her theories and being nosy about his identity, which Tikki would readily be apart of and encourage. Which Alya should've done in the show than recklessly trying to expose the heroes identity to the public and help HM win. Which, if Adrien wasn't a hero, maybe that should have been his role instead, which Gabriel could encourage and Adrien is even more excited cause he thinks his father is taking an interest in what he does which can be some later Adrien angst for you.
With Nino and Plagg, the BIGGEST plus is that it would actually give Nino SOMETHING outside Alya and Adrien. It would've prompt him to get more focus, and based on what's seen, he's 2nd to Marinette in having the most friends, meaning he can be more engaging and present with what happens to his classmates. Plagg also could bring some needed chaos to his life. You can even expand upon what's seen in Horrificatr where Nino can be controlling, strict, and harsh so Plagg can work on that. Nino does have some similarities to Marinette where he does care a lot for his friends and is hardworking, so there's something there to make Plagg a bit of a foil to him. To expand on Nino's role as Alya embraces being the big hero and savior, could even do the fandom popular idea of him getting Guardian training.
With those two taken, this nicely opens up others getting the Five.
Marinette can work with either Bee or Fox. If you want to work off Chloe vs Marinette, it works best if Marinette has the Bee. Though I think Pollen's personality should be overhauled, but if not, at least there's a perk that yes man Pollen going to force Marinette to take initiative and decide things for herself instead of seeking advise from her kwami. And with Fox, that can work off Marinette being a meddler, schemer, being creative, and her more inclined to work from the shadows. There could also be a fun twist to explore with Marinette not liking liars and she has a miraculous tied to deception, plus her and Trixx could've been an interesting pair to see interact, especially if working off what's seen in Sapotis where Trixx is very observant and manipulative, but also a bit of a chaotic gambler (from what I've seen, later seasons seem to ruin Trixx as a character). And of course, Marinette having Fox could work off her vs Lila, you could even dabble in her vs Felix.
Arguably, Chloe MAY grow as Alya and Nino would NOT have been so tolerant of her unlike Marinette and Adrien, so Chloe could've gotten the Bee and actually be a good hero and character for it. But that can also come down to preference and how you want Chloe to go.
Adrien could've gotten the Turtle, which I think could've been one of the best miraculous he could've gotten as he naturally likes to be a protector, and this miraculous works off that while also giving him protection. Wayzz also could've maybe addressed Adrien readily sacrificing himself, help him learn to be more cautious instead of rushing in, or at least think and be smart about how you go forward. There's even a possibility of Adrien having Turtle full time, as Nino could share his suspicions with Fu about Gabriel, so Wayzz could be there as a spy to check things out, which would have Adrien eventually get involved in his own plot, but still allow things to be at a slower pace. And as Wayzz, ideally, seems to be serious and dedicated but also playful and open minded, I think he would be very engaging with Adrien, which in turn could mean that when Adrien needs a call out, he would listen to what Wayzz had to say more (as most of the time Adrien ignores what Plagg says).
As for the leads, both would have an equal neutral involvement in the plot that can explain why things don't resolve quickly (looking at you Adrien who won't even ask questions about the suspicious book your father has). Alya would be a hero and lead for glory and self-righteousness, Nino would be to genuinely help others. Neither would have a super close tie to Gabriel, allowing him to sit under their noses for a while.
Also, gosh, you even could've had a lot of fun with color coded rivals/foils/personal antagonists for Alya and Nino.
If you really wanted to do Alya vs Lila, let Lila actually have the Fox or maybe she bought the Fox in Volpina, and this has Alya and Lila having the miraculous the other is color coded for. She could work off being a hero initially for the wrong reasons, just like Alya who starts for the glory too, as well as integrity vs deception.
Something could also be done between Nino vs Felix, with Nino really color coded for Peacock while Felix is color coded for Cat. Could play off both being ambitious to a fault and being selfish and nosy, but Nino cares more for others vs Felix is more exclusive.
And if expanding to others...
Of course could do Marinette vs Chloe if Marinette has the Bee, Chloe could have the Mouse, which could be funny to see Chloe deal with herself. That might humble her.
As for Adrien... could do him and Max being foils, work off Max getting Horse while largely wearing green, and I think Adrien is most color coded for Horse. Could work off both being perfectionist and could delve into the shared interest of gaming, with Max trying to bring out the competitiveness in Adrien. Could be thinking vs action.
Either way, ML is frustrating cause it's a show with potential and great concepts and it's irritating that it got butchered so. And the most frustrating thing is that there is just so many options to how it could've been done better. And kwami swap wise, these are my top two picks that would've been better.
Thank you for coming to my TED talks.
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sweetcloverheartdraws · 2 years ago
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I believe in former ballerina!Chloe superiority
Don’t often see many mouse!Chloe designs so I decided to make my own (and by that I mean hard project my “Chloe used to do ballet” headcanon and didn’t look back). Had trouble coming up with a mask pattern but overall I’m happy with I came up with (can’t say the same about the name though - very hard to combine the french word for “mouse” with ballet terms. Even almost called her “Clara” as a nod to the Nutcracker though tbh I can totally see Chloe calling herself “Mini Mouse”, trademarks be damned.)
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kari-go · 7 months ago
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Cat!Chloe and Mouse!Sabrina, I wanna see this cute friendship (only before season 4)
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Sabrina is such a cutie,,
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jumbocracky · 2 months ago
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Fourth Grade: Costume Edition
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huli-jinx · 3 months ago
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Chloé's Codenames for Each Miraculous:
Ladybug Miraculous: Ruby Lady
Black Cat Miraculous: Duchess Noir
Bee Miraculous: Queen Bee
Fox Miraculous: Vulpine Queen
Turtle Miraculous: Emerald Queen
Peacock Miraculous: Queen Pavone
Butterfly Miraculous: Queen Papillon
Snake Miraculous: Empress Cobra
Rabbit Miraculous: Lady Lapin
Mouse Miraculous: Queen Souri
Ox Miraculous: Royal Might
Tiger Miraculous: Grand Tigress
Dragon Miraculous: Grand Dragoness
Horse Miraculous: Royal Mane
Goat Miraculous: Queen Caprina
Rooster Miraculous: Dawn Duchess
Monkey Miraculous: Queen Simia
Pig Miraculous: Queen Porcine
Dog Miraculous: Bichon Frisé
Eagle Miraculous: Majestic Wing
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coppereko · 1 month ago
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i had a cool idea
what if instead of adding new heroes after season 2 its just the main 5 being the main characters and the zodiac miraculouses are just backup for them + they can unify it
this is for people who think the other heroes just arent necessary LOL
edit : plot wise, I feel like Bunnix and Viperion were pretty neccessary so I guess you're free to add them probs
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d011zk1ll · 4 months ago
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My beaufiylg illustrations, this is canon now ty
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real-fire-emblem-takes · 3 months ago
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I still can't get over the fact that Chloe is the current voice of Minnie Mouse. Goldmary could never.
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silentmagi · 1 year ago
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revealedmouse: marinette × chloe & classmates "did she finally stop pretending she had a crush on ladybug to make marinette jealous?"
Careful, this is almost a complete summary in and of itself.
Marinette wasn't sure what to take of Chloe's sudden attachment to her life, and wanted to help her stay on being a better person. Besides, the quiet moments together they had, when she could see behind the mask the blonde wore in public were something she'd treasure.
There was just this strangest possible rumor going around... why would Chloe pretend to have a crush on Ladybug to make her jealous, that implied that she-
Oh.
OH!
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rammop · 1 year ago
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emos of paris
hcs in the tags??
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plumsaffron · 1 year ago
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Each time I see a post questioning or speculating if Lila Rossi is an adult to make it so called realistic. My desire to bless your mouths with Spades grows.
Just because what you can't fathom because it appears improbable does not mean it's impossible. One just really just needs intel and know what they are doing.
But very well this is what you're asking for with your stupid theories.
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It will be just like that ship people drew of many times called Gabinette or Gabrienette Maribriel. So I guess Cerise would become shippable with every adult then (even master fu).
Farewell to your Liladrien Nataniel and Lila Lilanette Chlolila Lilagami Liluka Maxssi etc then. Oh the devastation. And like what even makes you want to really think like that. GEZZ?
I wonder if that would possibly grant a excuse to make some people no longer hold back on what they desire to draw or animate of Iris Verdi or Volpina or Hoaxer.
A fan of Lila ceased her life because worthless maggots harassed and drove her there because they hated the existence of Rossi.
Yes, speculate the worst so scums and indirectly some of the accursed parts of miraculous fandom can have a one up on the deceased.
Ah number 2 on my list of fandoms I despise a lot.
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imthepunchlord · 10 months ago
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Which canon miraculous you think would help Chloé become a better person?
Honestly, Bee was really set up to be the best for her overall growth. Cause everything that bees are tied to is all that Chloe needed to grow as a character. This Miraculous was her perfect foil.
Bees are tied to community, fellowship, teamwork, duty and responsibility, working hard, being selfless, and having self-restraint (for a bee can only sting once). Chloe ultimately needed to learn how to work with others, to be more considerate and selfless, and to actually do her own work instead of passing it off to Sabrina. And self-restraint as she easily lashed out, "stinging" very easily and readily.
Chloe essentially starts out as a wasp, and was set up to learn how to be a true bee.
But that potential went out the window when they made Pollen an eager servant and yes man, and went with "bee sting" power. Cause that's what bees are known for, stinging. These ultimately didn't help Chloe much, as the power and kwami just feeds into how she is.
If Chloe's growth was to be tied to the Miraculous, then it should've been tied to community in some way, and something that's going to have to force her to change, like the power instead is directing a magical swarm of bees that WILL unionize and leave you if you're unfit to direct the hive, and they will not come back until you change for the better. Which until Chloe makes a change and commits to it, she's going to be powerless. Also, Pollen herself would also need a huge overhaul in personality, cause Chloe doesn't need another yes man in her life, she needs someone that is going to challenge her and how she is.
Outside Bee, there is promise for her having the Horse. They are tied to being noble and heroism, which Chloe did admire heroes and want to be like them, so something like that could be worked off of. Kaalki also has similarities to Chloe, so she can be on the same wavelength as Chloe, but still challenge her and how she is as Kaalki should be all for her holders being noble and true heroes. Which Chloe is not.
There is some potential for Cat, but it could also be risky. Plagg and Chloe could be a very funny pair, how she is could practically be begging him to mess with her and have some payback. And it could also be a good destructive outlet for her. But this is also an easy Miraculous to misuse, and do we really want to see Chloe wielding the power of destruction? I'm not sure.
I can also see potential with Mouse. The little we see of Mullo has some similar appeals to Plagg in that she'd mess with Chloe and be hard to control, and her liking to prank her humans can work off some good karma to how awful Chloe is. And the power of cloning is going to mean Chloe's actually going to have to do work, and is going to set Chloe up to deal with herself. It can be set up with her literally looking in the mirror to see who she truly is and need to change, less nothing get done cause she's too busy fighting with herself.
Lastly, there is also similar appeal to her having Monkey. Monkeys are also tied to honor and strong sense of communities, and she's very chaotic so the power will be up her alley; biggest appeal though is Chloe paired with Xuppu. That kinda promises it's going to be hilarious given both have short tempers, and Xuppu is an absolute gremlin and will prank Chloe, make a mess of her life, and call out her bs.
So of the canon, these are what I would vote for, with Bee having the most promise but needs changes, and there's potential for sure with Horse, Mouse, and Monkey. Technically Cat too but that could also be risky.
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lostinaflashforward · 2 months ago
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FROM - Recensione 3x03 "Mouse Trap"
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La terza stagione di From prosegue senza sosta, con un buon episodio che porta a uno sviluppo narrativo davvero inaspettato.
RECENSIONE 3x03
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maepolzine · 9 months ago
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My Thoughts on Behind The Broken (War of Hearts: Behind Darkness Duet, Book 1) by Chloe C. Peñaranda
Sharing my thoughts on Behind the Darkness by Chloe C. Peñaranda and comparing it to the Cat and Mouse duet by H.D. Carlton
I don’t typically read contemporary romance but there are a few exceptions to that rule when it comes to dark romance or crime noir. When I heard that Chloe C. Peñaranda was coming out with Behind the Darkness, the first book in the Behind Darkness Duet as part of a new series called War of Hearts, I wanted to give it a chance as I loved her book The Stars are Dying from the Nytefall Trilogy.…
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grimreaperthing · 1 year ago
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debating buying lis before the storm..
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missswag · 3 months ago
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GLASSHEART PROMPT:
Chloe being Cinderella’s daughter loves MICE! And has plenty of mice friends back home, so when she discovers one in her’s and red’s dorm she’s ecstatic. Red? Not so much.
Chloe: AWWW!!! Red look!
Red: *not looking up from her phone.* Hmm?
Chloe: *Holding the mouse in her hand and displays it to Red.* It’s a mouse!
Red: *Still not looking up.* Very funny, Princess.
Chloe: *Pouts and places the mouse on Red’s bed until she notices.*
Red: *Suddenly feels something crawling up her leg.* A RAT!!! CHLOE A RAT-KILL IT!! KILL IT!!
A/N: let’s just pretend that they don’t have mice in Wonderland.
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