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Moxxie and His Weapons Grade Daddy Issues (Part 2)
How would Moxxie react to becoming a dad?
TLDR for part 1: Fans often overlook the magnitude of Moxxie's trauma and insecurity and the ways in which his issues make him rely heavily on both Millie and Blitz. He hasn't meaningfully worked through any of this, and I think we're going to need to contend with that in Season 3.
Let's start with the M&M relationship.
In lots of ways, Moxxie and Millie have a healthy, loving relationship- OBVIOUSLY. I actually think that one of the reasons why fans overlook their flaws is because they're so warm and sweet with each other, and from Season 1 onward, they were set up as a comforting relief from the repeated trainwrecks that stolitz kept making us watch. Okay. Let's give Moxxie and Millie credit and list the positives.
They recognize and celebrate each other's strengths. Moxxie LOVES when Millie kicks ass in battle. From the "Oh Millie" song all the way to his comments during the fight in Sinsmas, he's so smitten when she does her job well. Millie loves Moxxie's singing. She brags about his sexual prowess. She believes in his ability to excel on missions.
BOTH think each other are hot and aren't afraid to let the whole world know (sometimes in very inappropriate situations).
Both are motivated by helping each other. Millie, of course, will cut through dozens of goons to save Moxxie. Moxxie is motivated by Millie to stand up to Crimson. And to take the kill shot in Murder Family. She motivates him to set his ego aside in Unhappy Campers.
They share a zany, chaotic sense of fun.
Millie gives Moxxie a pep talk when her leg is in a fucking bear trap.
They seem to forgive each other's shortcomings easily. Millie followed up events in Exes and Ohs with "Next time, tell me if your daddy is a psychopath," and Unhappy Campers with "just don't do it again." Moxxie responds to Millie's outburst in Sinsmas with concern instead of judgment.
They give each other space for their various needs. Moxxie knows when to let Millie just spend time with her sister in Hell's Belles. Millie gives Moxxie time to do the investigation in Unhappy Campers "his way." And in turn (once he get through his freak out), Moxxie gives Millie the space and support necessary for her to enjoy her 15 minutes of fame.
Even with all of these genuine positives, I see some warning signs in their failures to communicate and Moxxie's utter dependence on the relationship.
Communication:
By the time we get Exes and Ohs, Millie has NO IDEA that Moxxie grew up in a mob family. I understand that it's because of trauma and concern for her that he keeps it secret. But they're a married couple and she knows nothing about his past. So Moxxie is carrying around a secret, and Millie is unable to help him with his trauma.
Moxxie refuses to ask for help from Millie when he needs it (Exes and Ohs, Unhappy Campers, just NOT COMING HOME without texting or anything when dealing with the "math nightmare" in Ghostfuckers). His need to prove himself actively harms their relationship in these situations.
Millie knows that Moxxie is insecure and traumatized (at least instinctively), so she waits until she ABSOLUTELY CAN'T STAND IT ANYMORE before calling out his behavior. Millie waits until she reaches a boiling point to tell Moxxie to pay attention to her needs in Unhappy Campers. She supported Moxxie through an entire day of buying stupid art on the streets of LA before finally snapping about it after dark in Seeing Stars.
Now, Millie doesn't want to tell Moxxie about her pregnancy. And this is speculation, but I think that in addition to Millie grappling with her own emotions about this situation, she also doesn't want to sort out those emotions while having to take care of Moxxie's very intense emotions at the same time.
Dependence: First of all, it's okay to depend on your significant other for aspects of your wellbeing. Especially if it's mutual and especially if needs and capacities to give are properly communicated. But I do think their relationship is somewhat imbalanced.
Millie gives Moxxie a pep talk while her leg is in a fucking bear trap.
Millie's very often in a caretaker role, or making sure that Moxxie is being taken care of. She attends to his emotions in The Harvest Moon Festival, in Unhappy Campers, in Exes and Ohs... Even in Ghostfuckers, when Millie can't be present, she makes sure Loona is taking care of Moxxie. While sometimes one partner needs a lot of care, it CAN put a lot of pressure on the person who is doing all of the taking care.
It seems like usually, Moxxie's emotional needs come first, unless Millie demands to have hers met (i.e Unhappy Campers).
As explained above, Moxxie doesn't tell Millie about his emotional needs, so she has to do the emotional labor of figuring those emotions out before helping him with them.
I just . . . I love them, but I worry about them too.
Predictions for how Moxxie will react IF Millie decides to go through with the pregnancy:
These are predictions, obviously. The show very well might prove me wrong.
Personally, I'll think Moxxie will be overjoyed for about 5 minutes, because he loves Millie and has a fun and caring nature and wants to do a better job than his father did with him. And . . . oh shit . . . his father . . . he'll quickly start to freak out.
Moxxie's insecurity will play a role. Will he do a good job? No one can walk him through this, and he'll feel like if his kid ends up messed up, it will be HIS FAULT. And there's the masculine stereotypes that get involved when it comes to "being a good dad." I can picture Moxxie trying to build a crib from scratch and crying in the fetal position when the whole project falls apart. I can picture him getting stressed about the baby's health and early education and buying products that are marketed as "what the baby NEEDS" that are completely unnecessary, and all of this leading to a very frustrated Millie.
Moxxie will be extremely protective over Millie and their child. I think he won't want Millie going on assassin missions at all. He might fear that Crimson could want to hurt his child. I think the result is more perfectionistic planning and stressing and breaking down.
Moxxie has never been needed to this degree before. Millie is a self-sufficient person. With Millie's body going through terrifying changes and a huge shift in responsibility for both of them, he will have to be as present for her emotional needs as she is for his. He CAN'T get fully absorbed in fear or perfectionism or the need to prove himself, because he has to be there for his wife.
I also won't be surprised in Moxxie is faced with increased responsibility at work. Stolas doesn't know what he's doing, and are we getting more new I.M.P. employees too? Millie won't be there to take care of him, at least for a time, and he might actually have to lead other people. He's NOT READY for this.
So . . . is Moxxie capable of handling all of this if he goes through much needed character development?
I think so. He has the makings of a good partner and a good dad.
BUT I do expect at least one major blow-up (worse than the ones we've seen so far) along the way. And I hope it leads him to think very deeply about the baggage he brings and be open about this with Millie. Because they both deserve it, and they deserve to find happiness with each other, whether or not that involves a kid.
#My helluva meta#moxxie#moxxie knolastname#millie#helluva boss#helluva boss meta#m&m helluva boss#M&M#I'm not saying I NEED for them to have this kid#but I do suspect that this is where the show is going
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I don't know what is more precious, that moxxie made cookies based on blitzø's scribbles of them as horses, or that he made one to include stolas because he's family too.
#let them be besties damn it#moxxie#moxxie knolastname#stolas#stolas goetia#stolas ars goetia#helluva boss#helluva boss spoilers#sinsmas#salem rambles#1k#2k#i did not expect this to get notes wtf#3k#4k
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GUYS HE PUT MOXXIE ON THE LIST OF PPL HE HURT AND THAT'S THE ONLY NAME HE DIDN'T GIVE A INSULTING NICKNAME. AND THE QUESTION MARK AFTER IT BC HE DIDNT WANT TO ADMIT THAT HE MESSED UP ANOTHER IMPORTANT RELATIONSHIP WITH SOMEONE HE CARES ABT AFTER STOLAS. THEIR RELATIONSHIP HAS IMPROVED SMSM
MY BOYSSSSSSSSS!!! THEYRE LIKE FAMILY I LOVE THEM
Also could be foreshadowing for GhostFuckers were he genuinely and sincerely apologizes (like he did in Oops) with the M&Ms/millie for stalking and being weird with them. MAYBE EVEN OPEN UP TO THEM ABT HIS PROBLEMS??? I'LL CRY
#helluva boss#helluva boss apology tour#helluva boss blitzo#helluva blitzo#hellaverse#helluva boss millie#helluva boss moxxie#moxxie knolastname#moxxie#helluva boss season two
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Oh they are so going to have a daughter, I would be so surprised if they don’t have a daughter
#god I feel so bad for Millie here though#I know Moxxie will be completely supportive with whatever she wants to do#but an unplanned pregnancy especially with their field of work sounds like hell#I’m really hoping the crew pulls this plot line up well#helluva boss#helluva boss millie#helluva millie#millie knolastname#helluva boss moxxie#helluva moxxie#moxxie knolastname#helluva boss spoilers
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#helluva boss#ghostfuckers#moxxie#blitzo#moxxie knolastname#blitzo buckzo#helluva spoilers#helluva boss spoilers
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ignore the difference in quality, i made that first sketch in RECORD TIME after the recent short dropped LOLLL
#helluva boss#blitzø#blitz buckzo#moxxie knolastname#millie knolastname#m&m helluva boss#i dont actually ship the polyimps bc narratively it would be So bad for all of them BUT its VERY funny and i love to indulge in Concepts
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Helluva lotta doodles, mainly circus stuff
#helluva boss#blitzo buckzo#tilla buckzo#barbie wire#fizzarolli#millie knolastname#moxxie knolastname#stella goetia#octavia goetia#loona buckzo#ill bill has artistic skill
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when yahoo answers died it went straight to hell pt. 2
sinsmas meets yahoo
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I know Moxxie and Millie haven't had many (on screen) interactions with Stolas, but I love how genuinely worried they were for him, this wasn't just a job to them.
Also, Millie putting her hand on Blitz's arm, because she knows how much he loves him (even if he won't admit it).
#helluva boss#helluva boss stolas#helluva boss blitzø#helluva boss blitzo#helluva boss blitz#helluva boss moxxie#helluva boss millie#stolas goetia#stolas#blitzø#blitzo#blitz#stolitz#moxxie knolastname#millie knolastname#moxxie#millie#moxxillie#hellaverse#personal
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just a reminder that all of the helluva main characters are under 40.
they are so. fucking. young!!!
stolas entered a forced marriage and became a father at 19! now he is 36 with a nearly adult daughter!
blitz lost his mother and was kicked out of the family at 20, while fizz became a quadriplegic cyborg!
millie and moxxie met at 25, got married within a year, and are now expecting a baby!
Loona is 22 and spent her first 18 years living in a literal kennel!
these are characters who have only begun their lives!!!!
#helluva boss#stolitz#stolas#octavia goetia#moxxie knolastname#helluva millie#loona#hellaverse#vivziepop
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The fact that out of the whole main cast, only Millie and Blitz look at each other at the moment of the execution…oh their friendship makes me BONKERS
#helluva boss#helluva boss spoilers#helluva boss mastermind#mastermind#helluva boss season two#helluva boss s2#helluva boss season 2#helluva boss 2x11#helluva boss blitz#helluva boss millie#helluva boss loona#helluva boss moxxie#moxxie#millie#loona#blitz#blitzø#moxxie knolastname#millie knolastname#hellaverse#vivziepop#vivienne medrano
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and if i said "the healthy couple and their whore friend"?
what then?
#hazbin hotel#hazbin hotel memes#helluva boss#helluva boss memes#charlie morningstar#angel dust#vaggie#chaggie#moxxie knolastname#blitzø#millie knolastname#helluva boss m&m#debs is a memer#debs is an original poster#915??? thanks???
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Happy new year!!!
#Official art#Hazbin Hotel#charlie morningstar#Vaggie#angel dust (hazbin hotel)#Alastor#Hair down#Millie Knolastname#Moxxie Knolastname#Staff artwork#Helluva Boss#Cherry Bomb#Blitzo Buckzo
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Some screenshot redraws of the mnms! I really wish they gave moxie more blue, i could barely tell he had any before hand. Also it just works very well with his personality
Honest to god think moxie would be the type to have extravagant robes and then just wear like heart boxers underneath. Millie would just rock graphic tees like the rest of us lmfao .
#mnms#moxxie Millie#moxxie x millie#helluva fanart#millie helluva boss#helluvaboss#hellaverse#hazbin hotel redesign#hazbin hotel#helluva boss redesign#helluva boss critical#I guess critical#millie knolastname#moxxie knolastname#Moxxie hb
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IMP's Realization & Wake Up Call
All of IMP have just been sentenced to death.
I want you to notice how Loona, Millie, and Moxxie are just staring at shock about the fact that all of them are just about to die.
During the entire time the rest of IMP are staring at horror on their impending death, none of them notice Blitz is struggling and looking only at them.
I want to make this very clear, Blitz is only looking at them. He doesn't care about his own safety at this moment, he just NEEDS to make sure his family is safe.
Millie, Moxxie, and Loona have just been grabbed by the enforcers...
"NO!" Blitz screams this at the top of his lungs, and he looks absolutely petrified.
Suddenly, all of IMP's attention is turned towards Blitz for the first time as Blitz speaks and makes his desperate case.
Notice how Moxxie turns to Millie with a look of utter confusion and bewilderment, even Millie herself looks just as concerned.
Millie and Moxxie are not expecting this sort of action from Blitz.
Blitz is floundering, twiddling his hands nervously, thinking of whatever he can say to stop this event from unfolding.
Blitz is met with Satan's fury and Yogirt intervenes to calm him down.
"Look all that Hell is going to see, is you executing imps who are just trying to do their job! I'm the rogue here, not them!"
Blitz makes his final plea to save the rest of IMP, and I want to point out how Blitz purposely stands tall, sticks his chest out and everything. Blitz is doing whatever he can to make himself appear big, to make himself look like a leader.
Moxxie has spent the entire trial trying to defend Blitz to the best of his ability, but even he is not expecting this.
When Moxxie asks Blitz what he's doing, he steps forward and grips the stone table. his voice is concerned. I want you to also notice how Loona looks so surprised by Blitz's actions to the point even her ears are sticking up.
Moxxie makes one last desperate plea to Satan, and he looks like he's about to burst at any minute. Moxxie is panicking.
Blitz tells him to stop vouching for him, and this is when you hear Moxxie's voice start to quiver. He's terrified right now, he doesn't want to let Blitz go.
The camera pans to Loona as Blitz makes his final request for M&M to watch over her when he's gone.
The moment Moxxie is given his last request this is when the waterworks fall, and he says the words, "No, I can't look, Millie!"
I love Millie's face of pure strength, you can tell that she's upset, but she knows she has to be the one to keep it together. Millie knows that one of them has to be the strong one, so she carries that burden like a champ.
Blitz is chained and forced to the floor on the pedestal of death, he's visibly hyperventilating and his eyes widen the moment he sees the scythe that's about to meet his demise...
The moment the scythe is raised above Blitz's head, Moxxie turns his his head away in tears and Millie can't help but look scared. Loona whimpers, turns away as her eyes tear up, and her ears are pointed downwards.
And Millie... takes on the burden in making sure she watches Blitz's final moments, so he could be there for him one last time. They really are best friends till the end.
I love how at peace Blitz looks in this moment, he's made a lot mistakes in his life, but there isn't a look of regret in his decision.
#helluva boss#blitzo#blitzø#helluva boss blitz#ro rambles#millie helluva boss#moxxie knolastname#helluva boss moxxie#helluva loona#loona#I.M.P#IMP#I wanted to add more but I reached the picture limit#might make a second post who knows
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