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98% of the time Trent and Gabi work together.
Trent, grumbling to himself: She’s lucky I’m in love with her.
Gabi’s Team: We’re lucky Trent’s in love with her.
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If Found isn’t a comedy then why do I laugh whenever Sir screams “GABRIELLE!!” Lmaooo that man pacing the five steps he’s allowed HARD
#found nbc#I am so sorry#and this episode was obvious to me#put me in Mosley and associates#we can throw sir away I will solve these cases
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wip / something about tommy and arthur conveying the same codified homoeroticism as a leyendecker piece or whatever. certainly the thing knight intended
#dubiously titled 'in which arthur gets tommy to suck on his cigar'#but tommy notably doesn't smoke cigars in canon like ever#even the scene with mosley tastefully omitted the actual act (because. it's not a cigar in that scene either)#john and arthur are show to be frequent smokers though#at this point in history cigarettes aren't associated with the working class anymore; all classes smoke#but cigars remain firmly a symbol of wealth/status/power and the masculinity attached to it#lots of thoughts for what is silly visual innuendo but well
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Today I spent my first hour walking the baby fantasising a highly charged conversation between The Young Pope (played by Jude Law) and Tommy Shelby
It was fun.
#because there is a parallel ambition#and regality and regalia too#and the sex#but then there is also the Catholicism#there was no wonderful premise#the pope needed a killer on staff that he could pretend was an associate#it was like#how could I take the Mosley Tommy dynamic and make it even worse#add religion#young pope s1 hit me hard#it was rubbish by the time John Malkovich got involved
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“A scene in Trafalgar Square, London, Eng. showing Sir Oswald Mosley, leader of Britain’s new Fascist party, addressing hundreds of his followers. This meeting took place shortly before thousands of London hunger-marchers Iand unemployed staged a riot, in which several persona were injured in the battle with police and many more arrested. It was the most severe riot ever staged in London. Police, mounted and afoot, held off thousands of hunger-marchers from the palace of the King and from official residences on Downing Street in Sunday's outbreak. Some seventy of the rioters have been injured since the first disturbance Thursday last.”
- from the Kingston Whig-Standard. November 2, 1932. Page 10.
[AL: Not entirely clear from this reporting if the New Party participated in the unemployed protests, or was merely trying to steal some valour and recruit from the gathering.]
#trafalgar square#london#new party#oswald mosley#british fascism#unemployed association#unemployed#unemployed protest#hunger march#hunger marchers#riot#buckingham palace#great depression in the united kingdom#british history#fascism#uk fascism
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In a classic example of better late than never, a Federal Court in Canada ruled on Tuesday that Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's invocation of The Emergencies Act in 2022, used to crush the largest and most peaceful protest in Canadian history, was "unreasonable," "unjustified," and "violated the fundamental freedoms" set out in Canada's constitution.
The case was brought to the court by a number of individual applicants as well as several Canadian civiil liberties groups, including the Canadian Constitution Foundation and the Canadian Civil Liberties Association. And in the decision, Federal Court Justice Richard Mosley expressed what every trucker and other participant in the trucker's Freedom Convoy knew to be true: There was no justification for granting the government powers that amounted to near Marshall Law over a protest that was 100 percent peaceful, with no violence or property damage committed—that is, until the Emergencies Act was passed, and the police trampled grandmothers under horses, fired tear gas canisters at journalists within point blank range, beat protesters down and smashed the windows of the truckers rigs, and generally deployed the type of violence that the government had knowingly falsely accused the truckers of engaging in.
The government also froze the bank accounts of truckers, seized donated funds, and shut down of the economic lives of hundreds of Canadian citizens, a draconian measure which shocked the world.
Every protester and trucker who took part in the Convoy knew that the government and it's bought and paid for media were lying to the public about the Freedom Convoy, and though it feels good to once again be proven correct, that doesn't change what happened. It also doesn't change the division in Canadian society which took place under COVID, and it remains to be seen if this ruling will put an end to the ongoing punishments of various Freedom Convoy protesters which continue to this day.
For example, the trial of Tamara Lich and Chris Barber, who emerged as public faces and leaders of the Ottawa portion of the Freedom Convoy, has now become the longest mischief trial in Canadian history. Finally getting underway in September of last year, the trial proceeded in fits and starts into December, and is set to resume in February.
Or take Guy Meisner, a trucker from Nova Scotia, was one of the first to be arrested and charged when the crackdown began after the Emergencies Act was invoked. He will be back in Ottawa near the end of February for the ninth time to face his "mischief" charges.
Then there is the case of Christine Decaire, a woman who protested in Ottawa and was charged by the police, who was acquitted last year; much like this ruling today, however, The Crown has decided to appeal her acquittal. To drag an innocent person back to court is the kind of grossly vindictive behavior on the part of the Trudeau Government that they have become well known for.
There are dozens of cases like this working their way through the system.
And then we have The Coutts Four, a group of men who were arrested in Alberta right before the Emergencies Act was invoked and have been kept in custody without bail nor trial ever since. Hopes are high that this ruling may help change their circumstances, but it has now been two years since they have seen their families, which is a grossly offensive situation, especially in a country where nearly everyone gets bail.
All of these cases point to a level of vindictive cruelty on the part of this government as constituted under Trudeau, who was only too happy to champion the fair treatment of someone who fought on the side of The Taliban in Afghanistan and was later apprehended by American forces. Champion the rights of his own peaceful citizens to a fair trial? Apparently that is beneath the Prime Minister.
Trudeau's deputy, Chrystia Freeland was behind the bank account freezing acting as Finance Minister, and she appeared almost immediately after the ruling to announce that her government would be appealing, claiming to "remind Canadians how serious the situation was." This though all the evidence and testimony presented in 2022 at the official inquest into the invocation of the Emergencies Act found that no threats existed, and everything the media said about the truckers was a fabrication.
Justin Trudeau has remarked in the past that Canada is a "post-national" state that has "no core identity," yet when that identity asserted itself to say enough is enough to the strictures of his punishing COVID Regime, he was only too happy to unleash the full power of his "post-national" state to attack these citizens whom he holds in utter contempt.
It appears that there is no ruling Trudeau will not appeal or lawfare he will not pursue to ensure punishment of the enemies of his party.
Justin Trudeau is not a leader, but merely a narcissistic tyrant. This week was only the latest evidence.
Gord Magill is a trucker, writer, and commentator, and can be found at www.autonomoustruckers.substack.com.
The views expressed in this article are the writer's own.
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On this day, 1 July 1938, tenants living in slum conditions in Quinn Square, Bethnal Green, London, held a meeting and elected a committee to take forward their concerns about high rents and appalling conditions. Residents in all 240-odd flats attended, and complained about broken steps, broken handrails, unusable wash houses, damp, lavatory doors with no locks, falling ceilings, peeling wallpaper and more. In August they launched a rent strike until repairs were undertaken and rent prices reduced. The dispute was organised and run by women, who paraded through local streets with placards bearing slogans like "Less Rent, More Repairs", and picketed their estate office daily. When rent collectors arrived, they were followed by huge crowds of women and children and booed. Fascist thugs under the control of Oswald Mosley – himself a big landlord – turned up to try to break up tenants' meetings – but they were shown short shrift by the locals. After two weeks of solid action, the landlord relented, agreeing to recognise the tenants' association, carry out repairs, reduce rents and consult tenants on future changes. We've got loads more great anniversaries today, far too many to post on here. For all of them, every day, check out the On This Day section of our Stories web app: https://stories.workingclasshistory.com/date/today https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=653584406814778&set=a.602588028581083&type=3
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Hate To Watch You Go, But Love To Watch You Leave
A/N: Brett Dalton has my heart and watching him be all flirty and give heart eyes to the stunning Gabi Mosley in NBC’s show Found has me giggling like a school girl. Thought I’d toss in my two cents with an OC included in the fun of Episode 4.
Let me know what you think! 🤗
Pairing: Mark Trent x reader (no descriptions used but feminine pronouns are used by other characters when describing the reader).
Warnings: fluff! And a bit of harmless flirting.
I stepped out of my house and turned back to lock the front door. As I was done securing it, the car waiting for me by the curb honked loudly. I offered a middle finger behind me before walking down towards the car and smiling at the driver. Dhan smirked at me and rolled his eyes as I opened the passenger door and sat myself down.
“Was the beeping necessary?” I asked, buckling myself in as Dhan took off.
“Absolutely, annoying is my favorite past time. Was flipping me off necessary?” he said with a deadpan expression, his voice mocking mine. I scoffed at him but smiled nonetheless. Dhan and I were always like this, teasing and annoying each other to the point where people naturally assumed we were siblings. Truth is, Dhan was my best friend. Ever since we started working at Mosley & Associates, Dhan and I were inseparable. I turned back to look at him as we drove to our destination.
“Thank you for picking me up, the mechanic swears that my car should be ready by Monday at the lastest,” I smiled sweetly at Dhan as he rolled his eyes playfully once more.
“You sure it isn’t because you want a guaranteed designated driver so you can get smashed?”
I laughed, shrugging.
“I mean, I was being genuine but be careful cause I might just take you up on that. You ready for another rousing team bonding night?” I teased, knowing that he would rather be doing anything else than playing silly board games at Zeke’s house.
The whole team bonding experience was curated by Lacey, who truly was a sweetheart, and wanted everyone to come together and celebrate a night without any cases to solve. A night where we could let loose and just enjoy each others company. I thought it was a genius idea; things often got too dark in our line of work and a night of inebriated fun sounded like heaven. Every 3rd Friday night of the month, we would all meet up at Zeke’s house for booze, food, board games, charades and even karaoke.
Dhan huffed out a laugh, turning onto Zeke’s block.
“Whatever you say, Short Stop.”
I gave him another middle finger while we searched for parking. We finally found a great spot down the block and walked up to Zeke’s side door. It seemed that the door already ajar with laughter and music seeping through. Lacey was the first to spot us and ran over to me with two beers in hand.
“Yessss the team is all here! Just one more person to go and then we can get this shit started. I’ve only had one drink and I need to rectify that ASAP.”
I laughed while Dhan took his first swig, thanking Lacey for the drink. I went around giving everyone while asking Lacey what she meant.
“One more person? Who else is coming?”
I plopped down on the couch as Lacey answered, wiggling her eyebrows at me.
“Oh you know, just Trent.”
The look she was giving me screamed “the cat caught the canary” and I could only smile. Lacey has been doing her absolute BEST to try and get Mark Trent and I together for the majority of this past year. Little did she know, he and I were already in a secret little situation-ship of our own. We had been keeping it quiet, not wanting to let anyone into our own bubble for as long as we could help it.
I kept a neutral face and smiled back at Lacey, ignoring her suggestive glances.
“Oh is he? That’s great, it’ll be an amazing ego boost for me when I kick ALL of your asses at Catan.”
Lacey gave an annoyed huff and I took a generous swig of my beer. Dhan groaned out loud and I looked back at him.
“Why the fuck does the cop have to be here? He’s pompous as shit.”
I laughed loudly and Gabi chuckled from across the room. Dhan hasn’t been Trent’s biggest fan for quite some time now, but his dislike only seemed to intensify over the past few months when Trent and I got together. Of course he didn’t know we had gotten together, but it just seemed that Dhan’s brotherly figure senses kicked in magically and he felt the need to always make a snarky comment about Trent.
“Remind me again why you don’t like him?” Margaret asked from her spot by the fridge.
“He’s annoying as fuck and I don’t know if anyone else can see it, but he just eye fucks Short Stop over here any chance he gets. It’s kind of disgusting.”
I almost spit my drink out and snorted out a laugh while Lacey rebutted before I could speak.
“Disgusting? I think it’s hot, he clearly has a crush on our girl here. And he’s such a nice guy, always helping us out,” she smiled at me again, winking as if that was the selling point that would make me finally jump into Trent’s arms.
“I can’t help it if he stares, have you seen me? Fucking gorgeous!” I teased, standing up and giving a little shimmy while I walked to the kitchen to grab the bowl full of chips.
The sound of Zeke’s door opening caught my attention and I looked up, crunching on a chip as I did so. Mark Trent popped his head in and smiled, holding up a two cases of beer as he walked in.
“Hey guys,” he smiled in greeting, nodding at everyone. He hugged Gabi on the way to the kitchen counter to place beer cases down. I smiled at him, and he walked around the counter to say hello with a hug. I took in a breath after wrapping my arms around him, inhaling his cologne and smiling to myself. He gave me a gentle squeeze before pulling back.
“Hi,” I said sweetly as he smiled back.
“Hey you,” he said before addressing the rest of the team.
“I caught the tale end of whatever conversation was going on here before I walked in. Who’s gorgeous?”
Before I could reply, Lacey spoke up. I could see Dhan rolling his eyes and turning around to tune out the conversation.
“Our girl! I mean look at her, isn’t she just stunning, Trent?”
I blushed and threw a chip at Lacey as she pointed at me, and Zeke’s chuckled loudly at her ridiculous attempt at playing matchmaker. Trent looked back at me, a twinkle in his eye as he smirked and gave me a quick once over.
“Yeah, she’s alright.”
I let out a incredulous laugh and slapped Trent’s shoulder. “Dick,” I laughed again and moved away from him. He grabbed my hand and pulled me back, laughing as he wrapped his arm around my shoulder and squeezed me in close.
“I’m just kidding, you’re beautiful.”
I beamed under his praise, his voice melting my heart. I stared up at him, loving how his brown eyes shined with mirth as he stared right into my own. We smiled at each other, forgetting where we were for a split second before a loud cough from Dhan’s brought us back to reality.
“Anyyyyy way, who’s ready to play! Guys verse girls, let’s go ladies!”
Lacey dragged me and Gabi towards the couches to get settled. I was laughing before my eyes connected with Gabi, who had a smirk on her lips. She quirked her eyebrow at me as if she knew something. I gave her an innocent smile and ignored her stare as we began to play.
Hours went by and we were having the best night. We were all slightly buzzed and finally relaxed. I had gotten up at some point to use the bathroom and retuned back to find that the only seat free was by Trent. The rest of the gang was busy watching Zeke and Margaret battle each other in Mario Kart on one of the giant flat screens. I plopped down next to Trent and smiled at him. The feeling of his thigh pressed against mine and his arm tossed nonchalantly over the couch behind me warmed my heart again. I suppressed a shivered, loving the idea of being close to him physically while everyone else was none the wiser. Almost as if he had read my thoughts, Trent leaned down to speak to me.
“Hey,” he whispered, eyes full of happiness.
“Hi,” I whispered back. “Having fun?”
Trent shrugged and nodded, looking back at the team as they all cheered Margaret on.
“Yeah, it’s fun. Everyone’s nice, even Dhan mellowed out after giving me dirty looks all night. What the hell is that about?”
I giggled and looked back to see Dhan place his hands on Zeke’s shoulders, shouting at him to speed up.
“Yeah, apparently he doesn’t like the way you “eye fuck” me,” I said nonchalantly but gave him a teasing look. I leaned in a little closer, the alcohol in my system making me braver in this current setting. “Is that what you do, Trent? You like eye fucking me?” I said sultrily, looking at him with a small smile on my face.
Trent’s eyes tracked from my lips back to my eyes and he gave me a playful smirk, leaning closer to me as well. The arm that was behind me on the couch moved closer, Trent’s fingers playing gently with the bottom of my ponytail.
“Okay, so what if I do like eye fucking you. You have a problem with that?” He said, licking his lips and giving me a smile that made my knees weak. I giggled and looked back behind me to make sure everyone else was still preoccupied with Mario Kart before speaking.
“I don’t have a problem with it. Gonna demonstrate how you do it?” I teased and reached up to fix the collar of his checkered button down. Trent adjusted his position on the couch to face me even more and leaned closer, making my smile wider.
“I could…or I could get you alone and demonstrate a different type of fuc-“ He was cut off by the loud sound of Margaret, Gabi and Lacey cheering while Dhan and Zeke groaned. Trent and I straightened out, both of us with stupid smiles on our faces. I got up to go join the girls, but before I did, I leaned back to whisper in Trent’s ear.
“Maybe you can show me that demonstration you were talking about later at your place…” I winked at him and walked away, swaying my hips just as tad more than usual before leaning my chin on Lacey’s shoulder. In that moment, I knew that Trent probably hated to see me go, but I know damn well that he loved to watch me leave.
*gif not mine*
#mark trent#mark trent x reader#nbc found#found nbc#getting back into writing#please don’t judge me#my writing
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Being mad wasn't helping the situation, but there was no avoiding it.
(lol please fix if this has terrible grammar 🤣)
Being mad wasn't helping the situation, but there was no avoiding it.
Or at least, for once, Clara didn’t want to avoid the anger, and she didn’t care about the impropriety of it all, shouting at her OBE of a brother in his office at the House of Commons.
As far as Clara was concerned, Tommy deserved it if he thought he was entitled to send men to pick her up off the street and drag her here, and anyway, shouting and chastising had been what he intended on doing himself by bringing her here anyway, but Tommy didn’t even let Clara get properly started as he leaned back in his chair, interrupting her with a calm, almost quiet voice.
“Why is it my men found you wandering down to Camden town again?” Tommy asked as he lit his cigarette, issuing a long, deep inhale and releasing it all while he held Clara’s gaze.
Clara didn’t bother to answer her brother’s question, knowing Tommy didn’t care for the truth, that Ezra and Adina Solomons had welcomed their second child and Clara had been planning to drop off gifts. Truth was, Clara knew there was no right answer to her brother’s question, not seeing as he'd made it perfectly clear who she was and wasn’t meant to be associating with since he started working with Mosley.
As Clara held her brother’s gaze, really seeing the tiredness that ran through him, the anger drained from her and little by little and she was overcome by a sad bit of curiosity and a maybe foolish bit of hope about her brother’s motives, so Clara sat and chanced a quiet, desperate question of her own. “Why are you working with him, Tommy?”
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response to this post by @divinekangaroo, continuing the conversation.
These moments I really appreciate your concise, coherent meta posts!
sorry just had to point out that this made me laugh because i do not consider my meta to be remotely concise and usually wish I could write short snappy meta posts without having to keep the entirety of the show in my mind. i'm often thinking things through as i write too! thanks for calling it coherent though, I appreciate it :)
I'd asked what you made of the fact that Tommy is the only family member who uses his body like this re: the discussion of the 'subaltern' and Tommy's ethnicity and its impact on his sexuality.
And I definitely should have been more clear that I meant the only one of his male family members, because I think you were talking about the way the perceptions of the 'exotic' or 'subaltern' impact the view of a minority ethnicity's maleness/male sexuality, I think? But forgive me for not going back and finding that passage again!
You're right that Polly especially uses her body this way, with Campbell in s2. I don't remember an example of Ada doing it, and I'm not sure what you mean regarding Arthur with Linda. I don't see a similarity between Arthur/Linda and Tommy's use of his body/sex in the way we've been discussing. But maybe I'm missing something!
But, I also feel there’s a deliberate presentation of Tommy’s consideration of his ethnicity as different to how most of his family consider it (long different conversation), because of the alignment to his mother that none of the rest of the family have (another long different conversation). This assumes a reading of his mother as far more closely associated with his (rather silent/compressed) relationship with his ethnicity, too. Polly and Uncle Charlie's comments reinforce this reading in a few points. So this different relationship he has with his ethnicity also leads into a different intersection of that with his sexual activities.
Yeah, definitely. I think this is supported in the show, even to the point where I believe he's the only one of his direct family to speak Romani (or what passes for Romani when they were ignorantly using Romanian instead early on, I think??) on screen. Johnny Dogs and Esme both do, but as far as I recall only Arthur and Polly are shown understanding it but not speaking it (which doesn't mean they can't, it just stands out that Tommy's the only one shown to speak).
When Tommy does use his body, I think it’s repeating behaviours he’s seen and understood as an available way for those with no power and limited influence to exert more influence, and those behaviours were drawn from watching the behaviours of primarily women of his family. And will mostly talk about Polly because that's what we do see on screen, extrapolating there was more of this sort of exchange going on around Tommy in his youth, too.
That's definitely a possibility. The Lees call his mother a whore in that s1 episode where he's trying to provoke them into a fight, which may or may not have basis in reality.
I think the show also includes significant hints of the Othering/exoticism associated with Tommy’s (and Polly’s) ethnicity in a way that shows it is connected to sexual behaviours/body trading – May talks about everyone laughing about when he’ll steal the silver, which is a Romani stereotype more than working class or racketeer; I think you mentioned once Tatiana does it too with the allusion to Tommy squatting in his own house.
I won't quote everything you wrote but yeah!
I think where I wasn't sure I could follow your initial thesis was that you'd been talking about the subaltern re: specifically the impact on men and none of the men in Tommy's family/circle behave this way, especially his brothers. But yes, absolutely Polly does, and there's that slur towards his mother, etc.
And for Tommy: Campbell, Hughes and Mosley’s sexually charged ethnic slurs (or ethnically charged sexual attacks?) towards Tommy are a whole essay on their own.
Oh definitely. And Tommy is often pre-emptively and defensively brings up these bigoted stereotypes (towards the auctioneer when he buys Grace's Secret, for example, to the Russians and Hughes when he talks about his father, etc.).
but because Tommy’s a man, there’s always that sort of mental hiccup first?
Yep!
BUT, his partners (and sexual aggressors) actually do acknowledge his ethnicity if with varying directness, and using uncomfortable stereotypes/terms. Tommy either forcefully silences his ethnicity in their encounters, or, he acknowledges his ethnicity but it’s in difficult and uncomfortable ways.
At this point I'm just highlighting bits I think were put really well!
It all feels like a wound he can't touch, ethnicity / mother. (He also never engages with Alfie on this line, despite multiple times Alfie opens that door.) And so the deliberateness of his omission conversely makes his ethnicity feel quite dominant in his sense of self and identity for me, in the way this series frequently uses silences and omissions to show the shape of something there.
Yeah!
The Romani layer is silenced in so much fandom discussion -- as if the masculine v feminine becomes the sole question rather than as well as, why does a Romani man in particular in that position maybe think to behave that way/why did they choose to portray a Romani man in particular behaving that way. Like, could any of his thinking to behave that way (or, could the expectations and approaches of his sexual partners/aggressors) have anything to do with the rather abundant late 1800s/early 1900s literary and pseudoethnographic texts which exotify and hypersexualise his ethnicity? (watch out for that gypsy man stealing women, the tinker sleeping with your wife while you're at work, etc etc; then he looks at someone like May, and maybe Arthur and John only see a hunger for working class cock, but Tommy is maybe consciously just a little bit leaning into that exotic stereotype as well, horses and goldfish etc, because it might gain him advantage?)
Yeah. Again idk how a Romani person would see this discussion (and the show's handling of it all) so I hesitate to really draw any strong conclusions either way, but I do think this is intentional in the writing of his character and in the performance, for sure. And this may also be why fandom doesn't tend to talk about this aspect much: not wanting to get it horrifically wrong in ways that would hurt a real person. Probably we do though, out of ignorance.
#the show did go there though; the gutpunch of shit getting real I felt in the S5 scene when Mosley refers to the 'wog language'#tommy's absolute stillness and silence in response; even words even those words which were always just him and his family stripped from him
Yeaaaah absolutely. And while it's definitely not the same as the social position of a Romani person in Europe (or even a Traveller in Ireland, which the Shelbys are also hinted to have relations to re: speaking Shelta), I do think Cillian Murphy's performance reveals a potential familiarity with being on the receiving end of bigotry, and how a character it's aimed at might react. If not from direct personal experience, certainly from family/national history of being colonized.
Sorry I don't have a lot to add here, I was just interested in hearing more of your thoughts on the topic and not sure if I understood where you were coming from re: Tommy's place as the only male family member who does these things. Thanks for taking the time to eloquently expand on your ideas!
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hello!
saw max talk about this in a clip from his twitch stream and was wondering if you knew anything about this. is there only one drivers championship trophy and it gets like what, passed around? he said he had the real one and a replica that already had both his championships on it so is it also only one replica per driver with their championships written on them?
i knew they got replicas for their podiums/wins (and that sometimes they get to keep the original) but didn’t think this also applied to the championship trophy as well. does that essentially mean that lewis, fernando etc all have a trophy as well but it isn’t the real one that’s moving around? how does it even have the room to keep adding all these names to them?
such a random but cool fact i guess that i hadn’t heard people talk about before
sorry, whenever drivers drop these little tidbits i get really hooked on these weird, pointless details
this is a good question because like everything in motorsport: it's complicated.
so: there is one championship trophy, which has every champion since Giuseppe Farina's name carved on it. but it wasn't made in 1950, it was made in 1995 by a company called Fox Silver.
like a lot of sporting trophies, you only have it while you've won it, so there are also a bunch of replicas. since 1995 those have looked like this, the official, etched-year-on-year trophy (each ring of the spiral has a decade of champions on) there was a lot going on in the FIA in the early-to-mid 90s and this new trophy came during some very major governance wranglings between what was then the sporting arm of the FIA (FISA) and FOCA (the Formula One Constructors' Association) that ultimately ended in FISA being reabsorbed into the FIA and FOCA getting Bernie Ecclestone and Max Mosley into vice presidency and presidency of the FIA to represent their interests.
(that's oversimplifying but otherwise we'll be here all day)
a new era of grand stability and governance for the sport naturally merited a new, ugly trophy:
but before 1995 that's not what the trophy looked like at all. it's amazingly hard to find photos of the actual trophy because F1 has always had this slightly bizarre (especially for a sport where there are trophies every week) half-arsed approach to awarding the actual championship silver.
but here's a photo of Nina Rindt, Jochen Rindt's widow, receiving his posthumous world championship trophy in 1970. as you can see, it'd a kind of modest little generic trophy, which despite the tragic circumstances of Rindt's win, isn't unlike what they usually were.
so: yes, all drivers who've won it in the last 28 years have won the same trophy and then they or their teams or both have had replicas made.
hope that answers the question semi-competently!
there's a sort of - I don't want to call it a rumour because it's stronger than that but an unverified story that the actual trophy currently being handed out is itself a replica and that Michael Schumacher kept the 1995 original. idk if that really matters either way, so long as there's one trophy that gets handed out every year (and it's not necessarily true in any case) but it does vaguely sound like the sort of thing Bernie Ecclestone would do.
edited to add: Nina Rindt was a timekeeper and incredibly accurate - timekeeping back then meant using a literal stopwatch and writing down lap times as drivers passed the pits. feel like I have to mention this cus she gets an entry in the history books only as a widow all too often but she had her own role in motorsport. (she was timing the session Jochen was killed in) - timekeeping was pioneered by women.
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"Dixie Reger Mosley was born in 1930 at Buffalo, Oklahoma, to a rodeo performing family. At the age of 5 ½ she was trick riding for Colonel Jim Eskew on a Shetland pony. The family performed all over the East for the next five years at various rodeos. Returning to Oklahoma her father, Monte, put on rodeos and the children performed. They were homeschooled by their mother, Opal. Dixie began public high school when she was 12 years old and rode her horse to school. As a teenager she also began jumping palomino horses over cars and began her rodeo clown career. When the Girls Rodeo Association (GRA) was formed Dixie was a charter member. She served as Contract Representative and Vice President. She clowned at all the GRA rodeos, trick rode and roped, and competed in the roping events and an occasional bull or bareback event."
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Meeting The Voodoo Boys, another chunk of Johnny's memory, Alt, and A Promise
Vilem went to the Chapel that Mr. Hands told him to go to in order to meet with an informant of the Voodoo Boys. A funeral is a strange place to meet someone, but Vilem has met with people in stranger places. He was told to go to a butcher shop to meet with someone named Placide.
Placide is not a talkative man.
Vilem is lead into the HQ and told about the gig he's gonna be hired for, but not before being forced to be scanned. He has to infiltrate the GIM and hack a truck. No biggie, only he has to sneak past a bunch of Animals who have taken residence in the place.
Here goes nothin...
Sneaking past those lunkhead Animals was no problem. Hacking the van was cake, until Netwatch decided to interfere. Now Vilem had to hunt down an agent.
The Netwatch Agent, Bryce Mosley, offers Vilem a deal. He doesn't kill him and Bryce not only lets Brigitte and her netrunners go, but also gets rid of the malware Placide put in his system. Johnny didn't like it, but Vilem didn't like being double-crossed more so he took the deal.
Placide was pissed, but didn't interfere with Vilem talking to Brigitte. She told him why she needed the chip, and Vilem told her that it was in his head and had to stay there or he would die. She claimed she could help, but she needed a bit of the chip to talk to Alt.
Vilem agreed to help her so she could help him. Both went into the net, where Brigitte told him they would need to elicit an emotional reaction from Johnny via a memory. Another dive into the Rockerboy's life...
2015. A post-show fight with Kerry, who Vilem noted was damn cute at that age, even if he was pissed at Johnny.
A romp with Alt in the dressing room.
A post-coital fight, followed by an ambush outside that concluded with Johnny's guts being stabbed and Alt being thrown into a van.
Johnny woke up at a ripperdoc with the man who dragged him there, Lyle Thompson, a media. He told Johnny that he and Alt were supposed to have met that night and that Alt had been taken by Arasaka. Johnny was livid, wanting to get her back. So he enlists in the help of Rogue, his ex and her associate Santiago.
Johnny concocts a plan. Samurai incite a riot outside Arasaka Tower, providing enough of a distraction for Johnny, Rogue, Santiago and Thompson to sneak in. They clean house, but the plan fails. Johnny unplugs Alt from the net, killing her by accident.
The memory ends, Vilem calls Johnny out on his lies and then Brigitte reveals the truth. She had no intention of helping Vilem at all, but needed him to go beyond the blackwall to talk to Alt. Vilem reluctantly agrees as Brigitte and her netrunners are all killed by Netwatch. Alt managed to get Vilem and Johnny out of harm's way so they can talk. She agrees to help separate Johnny and Vilem if they can get her into Mikoshi. With a plan in mind, Vilem is shot back into reality, where he fights his way out of the underground, forced to kill Placide and the rest of the VDBs.
Vilem has another relic attack, one so bad it renders him unconscious. He wakes up on the balcony of the Pistis Sofia hotel in Pacifica. Johnny dragged him there.
They go into a room, one where Johnny said he hid out in after he deserted. Vilem finds his dog tags. Then and there Johnny states that he will leave Vilem's head, even if that means dying in the process. The dog tags were his way of making that promise. But first, Vilem had to do something for him. Help him get Smasher once and for all, and enlist the help of Rogue to do it. Vilem, feeling like he can trust Johnny a little bit more than before, agrees to this exchange.
#cyberpunk 2077#virtual photography#vilem davydkin#kerry eurodyne#johnny silverhand#rogue amendiares#alt cunningham#placide#maman brigitte#narrative photomode#not sure if people care about these things but I do like to show the plot-important bits through my V's eyes so I'll continue to do this
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furthering tommy-sexuality and intersection of ethnicity discussion with @deadendtracks from this post:
I do wish I could be more concise about this so sorry for the ramble - too much I think is still trying to sort it out through the process of writing it. These moments I really appreciate your concise, coherent meta posts! I also don't think I've properly answered the question, but contains more broader context around my thinking.
"This is a very interesting approach that I don't think I fully disagree with, but where I hesitate is that Tommy's the only character in his family or extended kin group who uses his body like this. / What do you make of the fact that Tommy is the only "subaltern" character we see who uses himself sexually the way we're more used to seeing a woman do?"
I think Polly and Ada do it too, though? And I also think Arthur does it particularly with Linda but it’s in a very differently articulated way, but this definite sense of the use of the body. (I *headcanon* Tommy also saw his father do it, too, paying off a debt to some English woman with authority this way, and one day some husband/brother etc cut up Dad as a consequence, but off I spiral -- this was born out of very micro hints of Arthur Shelby Snr as a wandering Casanova using sex as a (theoretically) no-personal-cost way for a man to slide out of situations or obligations, and Arthur Snr's association with prostitutes without any war-soldier-prostitution linkage to drive that connection.)
But, I also feel there’s a deliberate presentation of Tommy’s consideration of his ethnicity as different to how most of his family consider it (long different conversation), because of the alignment to his mother that none of the rest of the family have (another long different conversation). This assumes a reading of his mother as far more closely associated with his (rather silent/compressed) relationship with his ethnicity, too. Polly and Uncle Charlie's comments reinforce this reading in a few points. So this different relationship he has with his ethnicity also leads into a different intersection of that with his sexual activities.
When Tommy does use his body, I think it’s repeating behaviours he’s seen and understood as an available way for those with no power and limited influence to exert more influence, and those behaviours were drawn from watching the behaviours of primarily women of his family. And will mostly talk about Polly because that's what we do see on screen, extrapolating there was more of this sort of exchange going on around Tommy in his youth, too.
And while there’s an argument to be made that using sex/body is a behaviour available to any person with no power trying to exercise influence (many stories of women over time) without the subaltern/ethnic layer, it’s difficult for me to detach ethnicity from Tommy and Polly's on screen behaviours, because their ethnicity is a huge contextual-for-the-time part of what limits their power/influence in the first place. I think the show also includes significant hints of the Othering/exoticism associated with Tommy’s (and Polly’s) ethnicity in a way that shows it is connected to sexual behaviours/body trading – May talks about everyone laughing about when he’ll steal the silver, which is a Romani stereotype more than working class or racketeer; I think you mentioned once Tatiana does it too with the allusion to Tommy squatting in his own house. Polly has Campbell (the whole exchange is subaltern coded) and Abarama which is also ethnically *heavy* if not in the same way as with Campbell because Abarama is Romani too. And for Tommy: Campbell, Hughes and Mosley’s sexually charged ethnic slurs (or ethnically charged sexual attacks?) towards Tommy are a whole essay on their own.
For Polly, feeding into my thoughts around subaltern coding: stolen children and Polly’s sexual behaviours, including approaching Campbell. Stealing children from certain cultures/families is not just a poverty/class thing, taking children was a deliberate targeting of the Romani culture (amongst other cultures) to detach children from the culture and destroy/degrade culture, in a similar way (if not as governmentally sanctioned/policy-driven) as the Stolen Generation in Australia and other colonial government policies over indigenous (subaltern) cultures. So from that particular approach, I’ve then read every one of Polly’s actions to protect Michael (sleeping with/rape by Campbell, sleeping with Abarama, even her actions with Tommy in his clannishly coded position of masculine/head of family privilege) as coming from that place of the woman-subaltern, lower even in status than the male-subaltern. So Polly’s behaviours with Campbell and Abarama translate directly into my reading of the subaltern coding around her sexual behaviours, which then has a copy/mirroring in Tommy’s own sexual behaviours.
There’s also an interesting question I ask myself as I ponder why I've taken this reading. If Tommy were instead a Romani woman who engaged with her cultural/ethnic signifiers in the same way Tommy does*, and she used her body for sex with higher class English men to obtain influence where she cannot obtain or apply power, would the exotification / Othering / subaltern coding associated be a discussed layer? A Romani woman using sex as trade to gain influence? And I think, but of course it would, this is a tale as old as time...but because Tommy’s a man, there’s always that sort of mental hiccup first?
*which he does in fact do, it's not non-existent. But I think the complexity starts to come in with what and how exactly these cultural/ethnic signifiers are engaged with by Tommy / his partners, and how obvious it is or isn't, because the show doesn't always treat this as a direct or foregrounded thing. For example, to reframe that question, is Romani Tommy (male or female) exoticised/othered/[consciously acting as or unconsciously portrayed as] subaltern in sexual encounters for influence, if he and his partners *don’t in any way* acknowledge his ethnicity in any way? Probably not, BUT, his partners (and sexual aggressors) actually do acknowledge his ethnicity if with varying directness, and using uncomfortable stereotypes/terms. Tommy either forcefully silences his ethnicity in their encounters, or, he acknowledges his ethnicity but it’s in difficult and uncomfortable ways.
Tommy almost deliberately omits engaging on any ethnic line of dialogue with any of his partners raising it to his face. (I swear the only time he says Gypsy all 6 seasons is when he shouts at Lizzie in S6 in his panic.) Class dialogue, yes; ethnicity, no. And Tommy's silences say a lot. Vulnerability, shame, tool, sense of self, etc: the ethnicity is almost more sensitive and can't be talked about because it's something he can't change, whereas he (sort of can) with class via money and rank. He does *use* his ethnicity as a tool (his Romani connections/forces, the way gangs even being formed tend to occur on ethnic lines in the first place because general society even working class shuns that ethnicity, aspects of trying to find comfort like potentially his retreat to the road and Zelda after Greta died; seeking the first Barwell sister after Grace died; the protection motifs around Ruby; using the language in front of others to speak secretly but in plain sight) but it's almost more frequently a vulnerability and liability (the reason for his disadvantage, the weight of inevitability of suicide, seeing visions etc).
I also think on how he has this repeated motif of being almost physically incapable of talking about the things most close to, hurtful, risk of hurt to him, and it seems his ethnicity fits into this, too. He doesn't even talk directly to Polly about it except in his fit about his mother in S4, and even that's a sideways, indirect mention. He says something like 'going like Mum, speaking to the dead, scaring the kids' - but because we've seen Polly's behaviours we understand that 'going like Mum' means Polly leaning hard into her take on Romani mysticism and calling it her Gypsy blood/opening the door to Gypsy foretelling/seeing things etc; from this I make the link that Mum = Romani; Tommy's complicated relationship with his mother = Tommy's complicated relationship with his ethnicity. Every time Polly raises their Gypsy blood, he lets her speak but won't engage. Even Uncle Charlie's commentary around the mother's suicide, everything framed around that is Romani - the horse, the travelling, the Gypsy mythos. And again Tommy says nothing when he hears all that. It all feels like a wound he can't touch, ethnicity / mother. (He also never engages with Alfie on this line, despite multiple times Alfie opens that door.)
And so the deliberateness of his omission conversely makes his ethnicity feel quite dominant in his sense of self and identity for me, in the way this series frequently uses silences and omissions to show the shape of something there.
Where it gets to his sexual actions as [partially consciously subaltern] or [unconsciously subaltern but consciously portrayed as such by the show], I suppose the guts is that I feel like he carries his awareness of how other people view the Romani, and his discomfort with that awareness and the discomfort/hurt with that part of his self that he can never get away from and that has disadvantaged him, into his sexual encounters (except for Grace in S1) -- but that in parallel, his decision to proactively trigger sexual encounters as a way to win/exercise influence is also weighted by a sense of ‘this is what I need to do because this is a tool I have available’ and his internal definition of ‘I’ includes (amongst other things) ‘Romani’.
I also think, like: a Romani woman using sex with upper class men to gain influence, becomes a conversation about stereotyping, authorial and period specific contextual justifications, as well as character justifications; but given it's a Romani man doing it, I've been fascinated in fandom discussion it's almost automatically honed in on masculine vs feminine behaviours only. The Romani layer is silenced in so much fandom discussion -- as if the masculine v feminine becomes the sole question rather than as well as, why does a Romani man in particular in that position maybe think to behave that way/why did they choose to portray a Romani man in particular behaving that way. Like, could any of his thinking to behave that way (or, could the expectations and approaches of his sexual partners/aggressors) have anything to do with the rather abundant late 1800s/early 1900s literary and pseudoethnographic texts which exotify and hypersexualise his ethnicity? (watch out for that gypsy man stealing women, the tinker sleeping with your wife while you're at work, etc etc; then he looks at someone like May, and maybe Arthur and John only see a hunger for working class cock, but Tommy is maybe consciously just a little bit leaning into that exotic stereotype as well, horses and goldfish etc, because it might gain him advantage?) Or even authorial intent to really hammer home the subaltern nature of this character because look, even in sex as a man who is in theory has more privilege in bed, this character still can't be free of behaviours and manners which tie back to his ethnicity?
But I know and sorely feel how much harder it is to write and think effectively about ethnicity in a public forum, because it can be so much more hurtful and real and intersectional, than it is to consider slightly more abstract concepts, such as the masculine animus and feminine anima, and mother-parallels, that become more symbolic, character-only, and which can be contained and referenced within the source material alone, hence, IDEK, it's a safer dialogue, and so~?
#i think i've touched on some key points which hopefully allow some dialogue.but do feel free to point me more clearly at your question#idk what's happened to my reading comprehension these days XD losing all my essay writing skills#also i have whole essays around polly arthur ada and johns approach to ethnicity in comparison to tommys.he's just soooo alone in this spac#all these things for which he hasn't got the words#some interesting snips in fanfic here and there though so fans are aware of it it's just not easy meta-making material methinks#the show did go there though; the gutpunch of shit getting real I felt in the S5 scene when Mosley refers to the 'wog language'#tommy's absolute stillness and silence in response; even words even those words which were always just him and his family stripped from him
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for the alternate love interests... okay i have several to ask for victoria... hanako arasaka... arthur jenkins... bryce mosley... alt cunningham (also apparently i had my asks turned off lol... didn't even realize)
i have, once again to the surprise of no one, rambled like a mother fucker in response. i apologise 😔
Hanako Arasaka
In brief they wouldn't work - like at all, but you know i love over-explaining: I touched on this in the Michiko ask but: Victoria has no innate love or respect for the Arasaka family. Though she'll certainly play her part as the respectful underling, she doesn't view them as Gods Among Men but painfully human, as fallible, as prone to death and mistakes as she is. And her opinions on Hanako are less flattering still; she sees her as a figurehead, pretty to look at and well-trained on what words and tone to use. And sure, she's a splendid netrunner - but it's easy to hone a skill when you have all-day, every-day to commit to it - Victoria holds more respect for the interns in counter-intel, whose lives are actually at risk when they get into the chair.
She might have garnered some respect for the Arasaka daughter after Saburo died and she was left to forge her own path - but the moment Hanako reveals Saburo's play and involvement? It all goes down the drain. Solidifies Victoria's view of the woman as little more than a pretty parrot.
Hanako, meanwhile, I believe would see Victoria as just another rank and file corpo, another suit who wants nothing more than to climb impossibly higher and higher even to their detriment. And she'll promise that with a smile, a gentle nod, steer their conversation into emotional territory because emotions are easy to wrangle - and she thinks by that furrow in Crane's brow that she's got her.
She sees Victoria as a fool for siding so publicly with Michiko, says as much with a gentle tone, like a parent asking their child why they've done something so naughty. Gives her the whole spiel about being Arasaka's heart, family and bloodshed, perhaps believing that Victoria's resentment of her dead half-brother was a passion thing, that she did it through a strong sense of family worth that Angelo ruined with his very existence. It's a severe misunderstanding of character on both their parts.
They have such low views of one another that they'd never get along or understand each other beyond pretense, but it's made especially worse when Victoria deliberately kills Yorinobu against Hanako's wishes.
Arthur Jenkins
I genuinely had to consider this for a bit, cos they'd be an interesting pairing - but in the way it's interesting to watch a spider web up a fly. Victoria, if she considered Jenkins as anything but a headache, would probably find some joy in fucking with him; encouraging his worst ideas in a subtle enough way that she could claim denial when it'd inevitably comes back to bite him, keeping enough of a distance that people wouldn't assume they're associated in any way beyond the thinnest threads of employment.
And Jenkins, well I imagine it'd play into a powertrip for him, a torrid, tense affair where he's cucking Adam fucking Smasher - it'd preen at his pride, make him feel a little bit invincible for a while. The apparent secrecy a thrill. Until Victoria grows bored, deigning him painfully predictable and moving on, sparing him nary a thought until he tries to wave his dick around, use his position against her, threatening to make Smasher aware-
it wouldn't end well for Jenkins, but when does it ever?
Bryce Mosley
I'll admit I haven't dug into Mosley all that much besides what we know from the Placide mission, BUT!!
He and Victoria have definitely rubbed elbows, mixed together at some corporate events - really it was inevitable that their circles would overlap eventually and they get to talking over over-priced champagne while people-watching; ever observant even on their time off.
They'd flirt, make eyes, but both are equally wary of each other - both know how loyal the other is to their respective companies, and that the other is prying in indirect ways, looking for a drip of information, an admission of doing things they shouldn't (ie Victoria breaching the Blackwall once a decade or so-). It could get physical now and then - a supposed one-night stand that reoccurs more than it should; when a party is too boring and nothing interesting to be learned, they retreat into each other's company - but it is purely physical. Trust is the one thing corpos can't really afford, especially when another corporation is involved.
so, as a sexual partner? 100% but a genuine love interest? not a chance.
Alt Cunningham
they absolutely wouldn't work out- like even less than Victoria/Hanako - but I think they'd have…something. i reckon they might have known each other back when Alt was still a human, before Johnny fucked her over forever and condemned her to a digital purgatory - there was something of a respect there, but begrudging on both ends if even acknowledged - at least where their respective netrunning skills were concerned. As people? Not even a fractal of it.
Victoria knows what happened to Alt, met her beyond the Blackwall shortly after it happened and she can't decide if she's terrified of sharing such a fate or not; digital godhood is appealing in concept but she doubts its so easy in practicality; Alt confirms that. They manage to converse in those years, reach an understanding that was impossible in their humanity. It's odd how civil they manage to be - when Alt despises Arasaka and Victoria is viciously protective of it; but odder things have happened.
(idk if i'll ever write it but i'd love for them to have a discussion on humanity, and their respective lack of it after Victoria becomes a 'borg)
#ask game#Victoria Crane#Hanako Arasaka#Arthur Jenkins#Bryce Mosley#alt cunningham#you chose so many fun ones i stg-#i think vic/bryce is gonna be pricking at me for the foreseeable future#the tension would be palpable
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