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splatooshy · 2 months ago
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would you do one of those nsfw alphabet headcannons for bi!damon??
omg yes. okay wait i’m gonna go look up the template rq brb. i might not get through all the letters in this, so stay tuned for part 2.
damon salvatore nsfw alphabet, a-g:
A = Aftercare (what they’re like after sex)
with casual hookups & one night stands, damon MIGHT allow his partner to rest and cuddle with him, if he’s in a good mood. otherwise he’ll compel them to leave (with memories of whatever post sex cuddles they wanted) (what? he’s not a MONSTER! …wait. okay, you know what i meant). or he’ll just… eat them.
after augustine, he prefers not to sleep alone, but often wakes up to find that he’s killed his bedpartner in his sleep. which is REALLY inconvenient to find first thing in the morning. so after the first couple of times that happens, he starts compelling people to leave (the MINUTE they’re finished. no afterglow for him or anyone he tangoes with).
with actual lovers? damon’s a total octopus. and a bed hog. he likes to stretch out & be cuddled cuddle in his sleep, which most people find amusing/endearing (specifically rose, elijah, enzo, alaric 50% of the time), but sometimes, his lovers find that having a damon-sized limpet clinging onto them is just Too Much (alaric the other 50% of the time, when it’s 7am and he needs to get up for work but damon’s naked and wrapped around his entire body and he can’t move, damnit, but also he doesn’t really want to because why is damon so warm??? and shit, he’s got some serious morning wood which will NOT go down & he has to be at work in half an hour, he can’t show up late & with a raging hard-on at that. which is definitely part of damon’s Evil Plan to keep ric home all day, he muses as he calls in sick, catching the twitch of damon’s mouth). (elena and stefan show up at ric’s loft during recess, because elena’s Concerned & has no sense of boundaries and stefan just takes one look at alaric making coffee, shirtless and tired & scruffy like he’s just rolled out of bed (he has) and smelling of his (stefan’s, not ric’s) brother, raises an eyebrow and says flatly: “damon keep you up last night?” and ric’s about to reply that no, actually, damon wouldn’t let him up this morning, but then a VERY naked damon struts out and interrupts, pouting that: “Ric! Coffee does NOT take this long to make!” and pretending not to notice the nosy elephants in the room at first (elena blushes and tries to look elsewhere, stefan raises his other eyebrow and stifles a sigh). THEN, in true damon fashion, he oh-so-suddenly notices his brother & their girlfriend and is like, “oh? are we having a four way? i mean, i’m down. but my brother, ric? kinky. i didn’t know you had it in you.”)
B = Body part (their favorite body part of theirs and also their partner’s)
damon spends far too long admiring his own body for this to be an easy question, but his best feature (in his humble opinion & aside from the obvious answers) is probably his mid-lower torso. hey, it’s not his fault he was born with a perfectly thin & slutty waistline. (elijah can completely wrap his hands around damon’s waist and they both think that’s beautiful).
with each partner, it differs — and he’s had a lot of sexual partners in his time. usually it’s some variation on the classic breasts vs. ass vs. cock (his drag queen ex from the eighties had a very impressive array of the three) (he may or may not be slightly fixated on elijah’s dick. just a bit. because WOW. not only is it one of the biggest he’s ever seen, but elijah’s cock is just as perfect and impeccably groomed as the rest of him. a true gentleman’s phallus), but when it comes to rose, it’s her tongue. or just her mouth region in general (totally not including her smile, that’d be cheesy) (pardon the pun). with enzo, it’s also his mouth. and damon will (however reluctantly) admit to that including his smile. because oh my god, look at that smile. he would do anything to make enzo smile at him. no homo (full homo).
C = Cum (anything to do with cum, basically)
damon can come untouched. pretty easily, too. and he hates that he can. he discovered this about himself with katherine back in 1864, when she used her strap (eight inches of polished stone attached to a leather harness) on him.
also on the topic of 1864, katherine (more than once) had damon eat her out right after she slept with stefan. bonus points if damon knew but willingly did so & enjoyed it anyway. i’m not saying she cucked him, but… she totally cucked him.
D = Dirty secret (pretty self explanatory, a dirty secret of theirs)
see above. he’s hot under the collar for his brother, and it’s pretty much the only thing he will never seriously admit to.
E = Experience (how experienced are they? do they know what they’re doing?)
so there was that 50 year dry spell, but damon has since MORE than made up for his years of celibacy between 1864 & 1912. he’s slept with everyone. E V E R Y O N E. but he wasn’t always a lustful little manwhore - he lost his virginity to katherine & she and sage taught him almost everything he knows. so let’s say thankyou to katherine and sage for bringing out damon’s inner slut. he knows too much about every erogenous zone imaginable, and is more than willing to prove so.
F = Favorite position (this goes without saying)
time to push my second favourite agenda (and a sub agenda of my favourite, pardon the pun): damon salvatore, the chronic bottom. that’s not to say he’s submissive by any means (though the fandom severely overlooks & underestimates his subby tendencies, which is a crime imo. he’s a natural sub, his pride is the only thing getting in the way of that) — he might prefer to take it in the ass, but as a wise man once said: “liking what (he) like(s) don’t make (him) a bitch.” so obviously, his favourite position is cowgirl / cowboy. he gets to keep control & be the one getting fucked.
G = Goofy (are they more serious in the moment? are they humorous? etc.)
again, it really depends on the partner/s. like he definitely pushes the limits & makes a really bad joke at the worst possible time, or just rambles on until the other person shuts him up. one of my wips at the moment (eternal teenager verse) has a scene where damon and enzo reunite after a month or two, and it’s all squishy and silly —(“Missed you,” he says between kisses, fumbling with his lover’s jeans for an excruciatingly long minute before deciding to hell with it, and he rips them open, dropping to his knees with all the patience of a lit fuse. “And I certainly missed you,” he plants a kiss on the head of Enzo’s cock, eyes never leaving the organ as he strokes it to full mast. “Never leave me again,” Damon murmurs, then looks up at Enzo through dark, fluttering lashes, shooting him a cheeky grin. “That goes for you too, Mister.”)
part two is already in the works!!!
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alfhildr-the-word-weaver · 3 months ago
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Shoutout to my Monkees mutuals for reminding me about the Monkees and their music; now I'm thinking about how She is such a season 2 Damon talking about Katherine song.
Meanwhile, 1864 Damon is of course firmly Vampire Girl by the Misfits (he would die for her, and he did).
#Damon Salvatore#The Vampire Diaries#Datherine#the Monkees#She#that post defending Auntie Grizelda got me listening to them a little again and first of all She slaps#and second of all Damon is singing it about Katherine. privately of course. but in his heart#Vampire Girl#the Misfits#I like to imagine Damon would be very fond of both of these songs#some people see him as a Taylor Swift fan because he mentions her but he specifically says that he *tolerates* her music to get girls#the only music we canonically know he listens to is Enjoy the Silence by Anberlin and 21 Guns by Green Day. So really he's an emo#well and Ask the Angels by Dead Sara in season 5#I'm trying to think of any other diegetic music Damon chose in some way. but just based on those three I'd say he's a man of taste#and I like to imagine there's some diversity in what he listens to#assigned Monkees fan by way of my tumblr mutuals hehehe#anyways time for my monthly main blog post#idk I need to bring these things more into balance. but ah well here we are#I love how tumblr is just all of our obsessions bumping up against each other and sometimes meshing together#I should reblog with applicable lyrics#some music for my favorite terrible vampire man <3 ;)#update: I was gonna pick some lyrics but nevermind it's really just the whole song#although 'she needs someone to walk on so her feet don't touch the ground' hits in particular#Vampire Girl is pretty lyrically straightforward but it definitely hits human Damon's devotion to her#also I know it's not necessary to italicize song titles but I wanted She to stand out because I feel like if you don't know the song#you might think I just capitalized a random word. so I wanted to be clear#I ramble#even in the tags I ramble
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kiss-my-freckle · 2 months ago
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Noticed in this photo that Stefan grabbed Katherine's ass while dancing in 2x7. Between that and kissing her in 2x4 and avoiding answering Elena about his feelings for her in 2x5 and gaslighting, it bothers me that Elena felt guilty for dancing with and kissing Damon when Stefan didn't show remorse over his actions or tell her. When I noticed that in 2x7 I felt it cheapened the love he had for Elena and added to my further disgust. Also his expressions when Katherine said she checked in on him showed that he had unresolved feelings despite not wanting to date her again.
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Datherine and Steferine have a lot of differences. Most fans focus on the broad strokes. Like the fact that Stefan was compelled but Damon wasn't. Relationships aren't just about the beginning and the middle, they're about the end. While Damon lived his truth for 145 years, Stefan lived in denial. You can see and feel the differences between Datherine and Steferine just by watching Delena and Stelena.
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Elena: Did Stefan think that he could use me to replace her? Damon: Kinda creepy if you ask me. 
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Katherine: Have I mentioned how inconvenient your obsession with me has been? Damon: You and me both, honey.
Stefan's living in denial is the reason he's the one more likely to suffer transference. The one more likely to fall back into a relationship with Katherine. The one who'd replace Katherine with Elena. That's why it gets so much focus. Why Elena never once questions Damon's intentions the way she does Stefan's. She has no reason to.
Damon's living in truth is the reason his relationship with Elena is deeply affected by his love for Katherine. This is shown even in his attempt to build a friendship with her. 1x13 is perfect example. Elena is able to fool him because he can't imagine Katherine lying to him. That's what them being doppelgangers does to him.
Stefan would welcome Elena dressing up as Katherine. Damon wouldn't.
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rockman-x · 7 months ago
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catherine leaves to bathe, call her batherine
i mean one catherine specifically, datherine
catherine is a woman-eating cannibal, call her eatherine
catherine adopts a child, call her fatherine
catherine is collecting things she finds on the street, call her gatherine
catherine wears a head cover, call her hatherine
catherine is mentioned after a friend of hers, call her latterine
catherine has mass and is occupying space, call her matterine
catherine is a cereal, call her oatherine
catherine gently hits a surface and makes sound, call her patterine
catherine has big ears, a tail, and likes cheese, call her ratherine
catherine put her butt on some sort of surface, call her satherine
catherine ripped something to pieces, call her tatterine
catherine is confused, call her watherine
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zalrb · 2 years ago
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Speaking on Datherine, can we talk about dumb the “it’s okay to love them both. i did”? Morally, you should not love two men who are brothers at the same time 💀 Second, it’s not even true. It was established that Katherine never loved Damon or even cared about him for most of S2 then after she said that line, they backtracked that next season.
Well, I mean, that's kind of the point of the line, though, right? Because Katherine's the one who says it and are you going to listen to Katherine above all people about what's OK and what's not? And Elena isn't supposed to be Katherine, which is why KW had that quote about it:
Kevin Williamson: At the end of Season 2, Katherine uttered that one line, ‘It’s OK to love both of them.’ We’re gonna sort of watch that play out. And what does that mean? It meant one thing for Katherine. What’s it going to mean for Elena? You can love someone brotherly. You can love someone as a friend. And I just think romantic love — it may not be OK to love both of them. I think that’s the journey. She’s got a big journey, because 100 percent, yes, she’s attracted to this man [Damon]. Yes, she loves Stefan unbelievably — I mean, it’s an epic love that’s never going to change
Even when they retcon what it was meant in 6x02
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As I've mentioned many times before, the [retconned] love that Elena describes she felt toward Damon in 3x01 doesn't sound like romantic love at all.
And yeah, the whole Katherine actually loves Damon thing had me like, I mean, she wanted him, but even when she tries to seduce him throughout season 2 there isn't really a glimmer of affection until he gets bitten.
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tarotofbadkitties · 2 years ago
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Bamon is mythic on many levels
As I was pondering the goddesses and men, Selene and Endymion dynamic I realized Bamon definitely hits several of the main notes in that vein, and that the characters pass through some variations on that theme before coming to each other.
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Damon’s first taste of love is with this powerful immortal when he’s a human man. He’s enthralled with her beauty, freedom and power but alas...she was not to be his goddess. She didn’t love him back. But like Selene did for Endymion in several different versions of their myth, she did grant him a lesser version of immortality.
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And our goddess Bonnie’s first love is this mortal, Jeremy Gilbert. She fell in love with him and fell hard, and when his time came to die, she defied the laws of the universe to save his life. We technically hit the notes of the song here with these two but...this was a dress rehearsal for when they found each other.
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Now we get to Bamon, and for mythical love they actually give us THREE different myths, one of which is gender-flipped.
The first is the subject of my last post, the goddess and the mortal. While yes, technically Damon is immortal, compared to Bonnie he’s distinctly unmagical. It’s clearly stated in the series that vampires lack the ability to connect to and feel nature, and that is the source of magic in their world. Eventually the show breaks that rule with heretics, but that’s off topic, so I’m sticking to the main lore here. Bonnie can accomplish feats of magic that leave him in genuine awe. And, rather importantly, Damon first seriously considers using the cure when he thinks he and Bonnie might die in the prison world, so he might do so with her as a human. And when Stefan cures him, neither of them have reason to imagine this will result in him being with Elena because she’s still under her magical slumber with no apparent way out. And thus, we’re back to human Damon and fabulous goddess. But what kind of goddess is Bonnie in particular? That takes us to myth #2.
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Bonnie’s a nature goddess of course! That’s why her powers are so tied to weather, the elements, life...and why it’s made clear several times that she will lose the power she has if she loses her life. It’s why her powers are intensified when she’s outside in the elements. And a nature goddess in love with a god of death...well that sounds an awful lot like Hades and Persephone, doesn’t it?
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And this is one of those myths that has two versions...just like this show presented two takes on it. In one, she goes willingly to the god of death, but eats 6 seeds of a pomegranate and is thus bound to remain in the underworld.
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In the other less romantic version of this tale, she’s dragged down there and has to be rescued by her mother, but as in the other version, she’s only able to get her a reprieve and not fully free her from the grip of the underworld and its king.
And to wrap up this jaunt of mystical madness...we have Orpheus and Euridice. Orpheus was a musician and Euridice was the love of Orpheus’s life. When she tragically died, he played songs so sad even the gods wept and they agreed to give him a chance to rescue his love from the Underworld.
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Bonnie faced down death itself to save the lives of Enzo and Damon, while the show was giving us love triangle vibes. Bonnie used her magic to attempt to bring Enzo back from the land of the dead, and ultimately that ended in him trying to straight up drag her to hell with him. She failed in much the same way Orpheus did, and nearly met a grisly fate like his own. And Bonnie faced down Cade, the personification of death and judgment on the show for Damon...and we’re back to Selene and Endymion because this goddess defied all odds and saved his life.
Sure, it could all be coincidence, but I think it’s deeper than that. I think that versions of these myths have travelled through all the cultures of the world in different ways with some variation, but much of the core themes the same, and therefore instinctively they hold our attention. Even people who can’t tell you the names or exactly where they came from or the details usually heard a bit of this here and a bit of that there, and if you’re going to make a story feel epic to your audience, you’ve got to kick it old-school with the themes of the epics our ancestors passed down. I think in the Vampire Diaries with these characters and their foils, you see how strong and enduring a bond these dynamics can create when the love is true, and how much of a tragedy there is in gods and mortals entangling if their love is not true and their motives are not pure.
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cabeswaterdrowned · 3 years ago
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btvs + tvd for the ship meme!
Btvs
otp: Spuffy & Fuffy. & Coffy. in that order tbh but I do adore them all favourite canon pairing: Spuffy. other than them I’m only really into Sprusilla and primarily s5 Willara worst pairing ever: I mean it’s Buffy/Giles obviously people who ship that are freaks. but otherwise anything involving Xander (usually I can like ships even if I dislike a character in them if there’s merit to a dynamic imo but here I can not somehow I just … hate him so much lol). Any canon ship that isn’t the three I just mentioned mostly isn’t for me guilty pleasure pairing: I don’t really have one, also I never quite know what this is supposed to mean and most of my ships for this verse aren’t like, healthy. but Willow x Amy would be like another level of toxic even by Buffyverse standards and I do find the idea kind of fun, although I never sought  content for it. and the rare time I’ve seen a Buffy x Drusilla post I’ve been like ! a pairing you want to see more: Buffy x Tara & Buffy x Kendra & Faith x Willow & Willow x Anya all those ships are great, especially Faith x Willow which I’m a vocal advocate for. Oh and Cordelia x Anya would’ve been rad that pairing everyone likes but you’re like “lol no”: Bangel but I used to notp it and now I do respect it a lot more for it’s place in Buffy’s narrative and see some merit in it, but it’s still really not my cup of tea romantically. I don’t hate hate it anymore but still. favorite non-romantic pair: Buffy & Dawn + Tara & Dawn the absolute best! Buffy & Giles. also Buffy and Willow but them I do occasionally like romantically (mostly I like the thought of them having crushes on each other in s3 and then growing out of them, but post Alyson Hannigan talking about them dating in S7 I do sometimes find the idea a little fun too). But like primarily I love their friendship. I also just sort of love Tara’s dynamics with all the Scoobies. Spike and Dawn even if reading some things about James and Michelle has made me feel worse about this but I did love their written dynamic. they don’t get too many scenes one on one but I love Spike and Willow when they’re together, also as foils.
TVD otp: Bamon & Beklena. favourite canon pairing: Steroline & Stebekah. worst pairing ever: Caroline x Alaric seems really obvious as the worst one. DE & SE I think I’ve had a stronger negative reaction to DE in the past because it’s a) a ship that I expected to like when I first watched but didn’t which is never fun and b) because it took up so much narrative space in the later seasons, whereas SE mostly just bored me. now I have a more eyeroll-y reaction to both with distance that isn’t full on hatred per se. I could not stand Matt x Caroline. I know in the grand scheme of TVDu ships it’s not like that insidious but it grated on me a lot guilty pleasure pairing: I guess Katholine would be this I really loved them tbh, also Klaroline and Steferine. and Datherine I don’t think about them as much but I enjoy them together. a pairing you want to see more: Beklena & Bonora & Katholine. also Kennett had a lot of potential that pairing everyone likes but you’re like “lol no”: Delena & Stelena favorite non-romantic pair: Elena and Katherine !!! my favorite dynamic on the show. I tried to think of a more traditionally positive friend/family dynamic that would qualify but honestly idk. I like Barolena dynamics sometimes but how I feel about each one sort of … varies depending on the day as does if I ship any of them romantically. the closest I can think of otherwise is Elena and Jenna rip
I obviously did not include Ats/TO ships like Cangel and Klayley in this
thank you so much! <3
(send me a fandom and I’ll answer questions for ships)
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certifiedceraunophile · 4 years ago
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Hello! I’m your Klaroline Swap gifter👀 I am sorry it's taken me this long to reach out but I've finally gotten to it! I am excited to be writing for you and wanted to ask a few questions about your gift. Wanted to know about your all-time favorite tropes and side pairings? Any Caroline friendships you like? Any tropes or pairings you don't like? Any pet peeves with KC fic? Any smut preferences? Anything you especially want to see or any info you'd like me to know? Hope you have a great day!💖
Heyyy!! Thank you for sending me this ask, and please don't apologize, it’s all good 💖 I hope you're having a great day too! So I’ll just jump in and answer all your questions ✌🏾✨
I am so so sorry it got this long, like so long, I really tried to condense it, but I have no concept of short and concise so now I have to put this below a cut 😭🙃😭
All time favourite tropes:
[see here's the thing I dont exactly *know* what tropes are so I'm just gonna yeet a bunch of HIGHLY specific prompt-thingies that make me tingle at you and you can do w them what you wish- like take out certain parts you want to use, or base other tropes off of them anything you wish really, even if you choose to ignore all of them I won't be holding it against you dw!]
Ok so I love love the "I was just captured by the bad guys and very harshly uh demanded to sell you out, but I didnt, bc even though I might posture like you’re the scourge of the earth and would gladly see you dead, I in fact, do not want you dead and will therefore not be selling you out and will handle mild -emphasis on mild please do not hurt either of my babies too much- torture instead and oops! look at that, you just overheard this exact exchange where I stand my ground and refuse to betray you, and now you’ve gone feral over your loyalty kink and are spouting promises of never letting go of me, which honestly I cannot bring myself to be mad at."
I love love love the forced bedsharing trope which then leads to accidental cuddling, where one party [caroline] is just very very annoyed that their body sought the warmth of a cockroach fucknugget being [klaus] and the fucknugget party is just very very smug about being the other party's personal space heater, and nuzzles them and cuddles tighter and asdfghjkl I'm getting tingly just thinking about it, and like says w a husky sleepy voice “don't move” and cuddles closer. jfc please I’m a basic bitch with very basic wants.
I absolutely LOVE the "we work on opposite enemy sides, but now we have to band together to defeat one common enemy and honestly I am NOT glad that I constantly wanna throw you against a wall, and not all reasons for said wall-throwing are strictly to inflict violence on you."
I also LOVE the "fuck youre bleeding/hurt/injured and fucking hell I dont know why my hands are shaking while I attend to your wounds but god it is, and now I'm not sure exactly how deep you've furrowed into my heart and stuck yourself there like a dickheaded leech."
Now I feel like I have given you many tropes, but I also feel like i didnt in fact help you at all, bc I'm not sure these are uh tropes?? but anyway those are some highly specific...scenes?? I have a very deep bias for
[you obviously dont HAVE to write ANY of them if you dont want to]
And also if I had to give you a clear cut trope to follow, I absolutely LOVE the enemies-to tentative allies-to lovers trope, in which one party is just working really really hard to get to the lovers part, and the other is working really really hard not to get to the lovers part, but caves later on, bc really the fucker grows on you. [Featuring Klaus as the "high key besotted already pursuing Caroline"-person, and Caroline is the "I am very very annoyed w this wooing, but I am more annoyed this wooing is working"-person. And also, I like my Klaus E V I L, But really really really *soft* for Caroline.]
Also if by tropes you meant settings, Like AU's, literally anything works, I have a personal bias for Crime AU's when it comes to enemies to lovers, and Canon is the ultimate enemies to lovers AU, but honestly you can use which ever one you want, I am not entirely sure myself if I have a specific preference here, AH, Fantasy, Supernatural, Scifi, it's all good.
[I however am not extremely fond of Historical Settings]
Again you are not required to follow any of these tropes at all if you don't wish to, I just require you to have a lot of fun writing and love the beauty you write yourself first!
Side pairings:
Ok I LOVE me some Kennett [kol + bonnie] but I also LOVEEE kolenzo [Kol and Enzo], I also am extremely just *heart eyes* at Bonenzo [Bonnie + enzo], but I absolutely DIE for Kennettzo [which is OT3 of Kol Bonnie and Enzo]
Kalijah is also a-ok w me, and I feel like I dont have any other side pairings I'd like die to see I guess. If you choose not to go with these side pairings its perfectly alright.
Caroline Friendships:
Ok this I can answer without rambling like an idiot, I love love love love :
Bonnie + Caroline [like i love this so much it physically hurts me, they both deserve so so so much better]
Kol + Caroline [I will literally touch a frog, and I have a phobia of frogs, to have one full conversation w these two idiots]
Enzo + Caroline [Honestly enzoline brotp makes me wanna sob happy tears bc they are so perfect together]
Katherine + Caroline + Rebekah [bad bitch meets head bitch meets super bitch, what could possibly go wrong]
Tropes and Pairings I dont like:
NOTPS:
Kolvina, stebekah, delena, stelena, datherine, steferine, Haylijah, Marcel+Rebekah, Matt+Rebekah, Bamon, Kai+bonnie, beremy.
And I think that's about it? mostly I just hate elena stefan damon and hayley and I am not fond of them w anyone, I hate all canon Rebekah relationships, and I dont like seeing Bonnie with anyone other than enzo or kol.
Tropes:
I am totally not fond of the Kill Liz for plot reasons trope, like seriously killing Caroline's mom is not ok w me, but I am totes fine if she's like already dead as part of Caroline's backstory, just don't show me Liz dying in the story as a part of the plot.
Any form of sire-bond-y or like sire-bond adjacent or like any form of deal/bargain/agreement that gives Klaus even a tiniest bit of power over Caroline's free will and choices, is just not for me, like at all, no matter how well it's done, I can't stand it.
not fond of any form of prisoner/hostage tropes, like klaus kidnapping caroline or caroline kidnapping klaus and holding each other hostage and stuff like that.
Death as a plot point doesnt work for me? and really I'd prefer if there were no major character deaths at all.
Friends to lovers trope is not for me, childhood friends to lovers trope is definitely not for me.
I don't like any sort of redemption arc really, anything that starts with Klaus as a “bad” dude and ends with him being a relatively “good” dude is not for me.
Any form of infidelity, like ofc especially in between Klaus and Caroline is just [shudder] hard pass, but like I also hate it when Caroline or Klaus cheat on anybody at all.
Also all the tropes and like themes I'm not comfy w that I mentioned in my original Gift Request still stand.
KC Pairing Pet peeves
ok This I can answer easily bc I have like a FEW,
I hate a woobified Klaus so much, like so much, I hate all TO!Klaus characterizations but this one is the worst, absolutely not here for it, I am not here to feel sorry for this mf I want to feel really deliriously GIDDY at how evil he is and how whipped he is for Caroline, but like concentrating on Klaus's manpain is not something I really wanna read.
Caroline excusing Klaus's bullshit, or like being a push over-y “it's ok, I understand why you did it” person is not for me, bc she never was one to begin w, she never did rationalize or justify Klaus's behaviour, she always held him accountable and told him what a difficult son of a bitch he is every chance she got.
I don't like arcs where Caroline is Klaus's redemption? like Caroline bringing Klaus into the "light" or whatever I am not here for it, like at all, I like Klaus staying evil while being endlessly in love with Caroline, and Caroline being able to be w a man she knows is a selfish evil ruthless grade A asshole, but will literally also choke himself to death for Caroline, cuz the man is whipped as fuck.
I also absolutely am not a fan of arcs where like Caroline remains "pure" or whatever, like that's just not for me, I am totally fine, actually MORE than fine for ruthless Caroline who is willing to do deplorable shit to get to her goal and protect her people, like Caroline being extremely almost evilly pragmatic just gives me a boner, and pretty sure gives Klaus one too. Klaus "protecting" Caroline's so called innocence is uh off putting for me personally. And her remaining this pure white light princess of good and Klaus being attracted to the *good* in her is um, nope.
Smutty Preferences
Honestly I’m very easy when it comes to smut [and u totally dont have to write me any if you dont want to]
I do not like:
non con/dub con, anal sex, Strict and/or elaborate Bdsm themes, [light undertones are ok], drunk sex, sex that’s basically infidellity [like caroline/klaus cheating on someone else w each other] , gagging, choking, Extremely rough emotionless sex, sex as a bargain, or as a part of a bargain.
Smut preferences:
I like reading oral sex, especially Klaus going down on Caroline
light bondage like being tied up [either Klaus/Caroline I enjoy both]
Sex toys are really really good, like love reading Klaus using one on Caroline, or Caroline using one on herself and Klaus watching
I do have a special love for praise kink, especially Klaus being really just in awe of Caroline during the do and expressing it uninhibitedly
Dirty Talk is GREAT
I enjoy both Klaus and Caroline in a dominant role, but I usually love it when both of them share the dominance equally, I’m just not into “Yes master” and “Yes mistress” level of dominance. I guess the word I’m looking for is Vanilla dominance lmao.
Bloodplay is also great if they're vampires.
And Klaus and Caroline leaving marks on each other is *swoon*.
I love reading possessive!klaus and possessive!caroline in equal measure so really your choice.
Hot and Dirty sex with a an undercurrent of emotion and devotion, want and need and all that nice stuff is great!
But I do have a list of words I’m not really a big fan of coming across when I’m reading smut:
Any word for vagina that’s not wetness, or folds or lips, is squicky, cunt is not a problem, pussy however is squick.
Clit is clit; little nub, bundle of nerves, all of that makes the med student in me really anxious lmao.
Any word for Cock that’s not cock is squick.
Juices, cream, semen are squicky, I just prefer come or release.
Ok these are seemingly innocent words but moist, engorged, gaping, drooling, sopping are not words I like seeing in context of smut.
So yeah that’s about it, I know hi, it’s been what, eleventy bajillion years since the beginning of this ask, I am so so so sorry for being this difficult, and really, LIKE SERIOUSLY, except for my squicks you are more than welcome to just skip past everything else, since I’m not really that hard to please, as long as the no-no’s are not there in what I read and the dynamic I asked for is even just vaguely followed I will be really really really happy and really I just want you to have fun writing whatever you feel like cooking up, I’m superrrr excited to see your interpretation of my request!!!
[Also Please please send me another ask clarifying you got my answer and also telling me I haven't frightened you with this long ass rambling list of okay’s and no-no’s bc honestly I am just anxiously debating if I should answer this ask like this or yeet half of it and vaguely rewrite the answer.]
Hope you have a great day lovely!! I am once again sorry for being this difficult. ✨💖🤝🏾
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pinkhysteria · 5 years ago
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Anyways since were here let’s talk about it. In s1 Damon fucking worshipped the ground Katherine walked even after Anna said Kat was never in the tomb and didn’t give a shit about him. But after she rejected him in 2x01 everytime she’s mentioned Damon calls her slutty and evil and a whore. Inch resting
and then immediately moved on to feeling entitled to the closest thing he could to a replacement fix - her doppelganger! even if you lean to “poor damon, he didn’t deserve that, he’s owed katherine :(”, his first instinct to this rebuff was to force himself on a girl who looked just like the one who had just said no to him, and then kill her brother when she did the same thing.  
but the fandom really said, “um, two women daring to reject damon?? it’s their fault he killed jeremy! they shouldn’t have made him sad!” brain worms.
all the women damon has doubtlessly fucked/fed on/discarded over the years, but I’m supposed to feel bad katherine didn’t want to live happily ever after with him. hell, we had a whole mini plot of damon pretending he had feelings for rebekah, and we were supposed to root for him and feel bad when Rebekah retaliated. 
the whole “annoyed/reluctant allies” thing datherine initially had going on was enjoyable. but then it spiraled into katherine being responsible for every horrible thing he went on to do, and being hit over the head with that nonstop once they really started shifting into the concluding “damon is the better man”/”queen of hell” dynamics. and damon not only never extended this “logic” to her situation with klaus, but went so far as to tell her that everything klaus did to her was funny, was yet another character to imply she was horrible for running away, and then pinned everything that klaus retaliated with on her. 
but poor damon, i guess?
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netflixandthecity · 6 years ago
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my top 10 couples from The Vampire Diaries/The Originals
Here are some other honorable mentions:
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Datherine [Damon Salvatore x Katherine Pierce] If Katherine would choose Damon over Stefan, I think that she and Damon would be such a badass couple. I liked their relatioship through the seasons. In the beggining he loved Kat for 145 years, but then finds out that she’s not in the tumb. Also she told him that she loved Stefan and I think that was the moment when he hated her. I think of them more like frenemies than enemies, beacuse sometimes they get on well with each other. “I'm sorry.  You blame me for who you are, and I'm sorry. I'm sorry that I turned you. I'm sorry that you didn't get to die as a forgotten nobody on a bloody battlefield and that your father didn't get to live another day to be disgraced by you.  Damon, I'm sorry that I gave your life purpose, passion, drive, desire.  I'm sorry that you are who you are, because I'm the one who taught you how to love.” 
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Stebekah [Stefan Salvatore x Rebekah Mikaelson] I really, really liked them togheter. In 20′s and also in s4 when they looked for the cure. I actually like Stebekah more than Rebel. Pls don’t hate “You're right. I do care. I want stupid koala corsages and a prom. I want to have kids with someone who loves me enough to stand outside my window with a stupid boombox. I want to be human.”
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Kalijah [Elijah Mikaelson x Katherine Pierce] They had a potencial. Real potencial. They could have been the biggest power couple of this show, but writers ruined it. I think that Katherine truly cared and loved Elijah. Also I think Elijah was still in love with her even though she wasn’t that sweet and innocennt girl he fell for 500 years ago. I’m upset that they didn’t find way back to each other, when they were alive.  I ship Haylijah, but I want more Katherine and Elijah to happen in the afterlife. They deserve to find peace together. Also there’s nothing better Elijah saying “Katerina”. "Because I meant what I said. About my feelings for you. And I'd like to think that you feel something for me too.  I need you to trust me.  I want you to trust me, just like I'm trusting you.” 
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Jalaric [Alaric Saltzman x Josette Parker] I really liked them together in s6. I was glad that Alaric finally found happiness. But then Kai came while their wedding and it stopped to be so beautiful. “I got to meet you, the most beautiful, hilarious and intimidatingly brilliant woman I have ever known. You inspire me, you've shown me that happiness is actually something that I can have in my life. And so I promise to be with you, and love you, and to dodge fate with you for the rest of our lives.”
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Klayley [Klaus Mikaelson x Hayley Marshall] The. Best. Parents. I love them together. There were few times when I wished they were official couple, But still their bond is something unique. Best duo. “Seems I owe you an apology, little wolf. I’ve given you a thousand reasons to abandon me, but you haven’t yet. So thank you for my sake and our daughter’s.”
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alwayskaysanova · 8 years ago
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what did you think of the tvd final? it felt rushed to me and i'm even more upset now ive seen all the interviews with kevin saying it was always meant to be stelena and it feels like a slap in the face that they gave us delena but only by default and the delena we got was so lacking everything i loved about them what did you think?
it’s taken me two days to process everything i felt about that finale and i’m still not fully there yet but i’m gonna try to put my feelings down and then move on
firstly, i had a lot of fun watching it with everyone (specifically @lowsodiumfreaks bc it was hilarious) and i am really glad i got to experience this fandom one last time in all its crazy glory
(i’m tagging @insightfuldamon too bc i like yelling my feelings at jackie bc she understands and i love her for it)
immediately after the finale i was content, i was crying, i was thankful for the show and its characters, i was generally A Mess but i was happy about it
yesterday, once i’d had some sleep and a chance to properly look at the finale by watching it again without the fear of my faves dying i was…less happy with it
i’m gonna start by saying what i loved and still love;
BONNIE BENNETT BEING THE ULTIMATE HERO WE ALL KNOW SHE’S BEEN FROM THE BEGINNING
the bennett witches being fucking amazing
that steroline phonecall bc as someone who never really shipped steroline that was the first time i truly felt it and i was so upset on behalf of caroline and stefan that they didn’t even get a day of marriage before death did them part
caroline/alaric and their girls, the whole convo where alaric mentioned liz and caroline got it and chose her girls over stefan bc she knew it was the right thing to do regardless of her love for him she’ll always put her girls first AND GUYS THAT WAS SO AWESOME BC ONE OF CAROLINE’S MAIN CHARACTER POINTS WAS GETTING THE GUY AND SHE LET THE GUY GO IN THE END !!!!!
BONLENA REUNION!! both times were glorious
all the defan. all of it. amazing. the whole scene where they were trying to sacrifice themselves for each other and i didn’t want either of them to die but then damon chose to save stefan and compelled him away AND I WAS SOBBING SO HARD AND SCREAMING AT CHAR but i’d also accepted it and was so proud of damon bc it was such a great moment in his journey
and then the plot twist with stefan tricking damon and turning him human and then sacrificing himself instead AND I WAS EVEN MORE OF A MESS BC I DIDN’T WANT IT AND HISTORICALLY I HAVE HATED STEFAN BUT I DIDN’T WANT HIM TO DIE but it was beautiful that he went out saving everyone
the whole stelena goodbye was a nice nod to their relationship even though i never liked it i adored their goodbye scene
STEFAN AND LEXI AND I WAS FEELING EPIC
the little daroline scene was cute
caroline seeing elena again!! all the girl feels when they were sat on the bench
i did like all the after death reunion scenes and the nods to past characters even if it felt a little too ‘wrap it neatly in a ribbon/all the fuzzy feels/overdone’
all the donovan family feelings were beautiful
now on to the things i didn’t like;
the delena scenes were flat as hell, felt forced, disjointed and just generally Bad
we got no conversation, no last ‘i love you’, no hint of a flashforward into those supposed ‘happy, human lives’
don’t get me wrong i’m content with the endgame and my 12 year old self now feels supremely justified in all her decision makings but it was so U G H purely bc it wasn’t anything
we got the endgame in name only and i didn’t feel it
i have a suspicion most of it was to do with the very obvious bad feeling between ian and nina, though i have to give credit bc i 100% felt everything delena from nina’s side it was ian doing a terrible job which was seriously jarring after how amazing his acting was in the scene with paul when defan were debating who was gonna die
the kiss was awkward, the handholding was awkward, the looks were awkward, EVERYTHING WAS AWKWARD THEY WERE LITERALLY ON SCREEN FOR A MINUTE AND IAN COULDN’T ADULT ENOUGH TO GET THROUGH IT GOOD LORD
but whatever i’m done, it’s over, bye
/side note; the interviews afterwards mean shit to me tbh bc the writers knew that nina was leaving at the beginning of season 6 so if they had ever truly intended stelena to be endgame they had plenty of time to write it and it’s obvious they’re just throwing every fandom a bone bc delena get to claim the endgame but the interviews suggest stelena get to feel justified in thinking stelena was always meant to be
blaming nina leaving is an utterly shitty thing to do so they can fuck off with that nonsense
the bottom line is they wrote the show, they decided the relationship endgames, they CHOSE THE CHARACTER ENDGAMES
their writing is on them and they need to own their decisions and stop trying to appease everyone or shift blame to one fucking actress like she didn’t dedicate her whole damn sanity to the shit they put her through
like the fact she even came back…they didn’t deserve her that’s all i’m gonna say but then they haven’t been deserving kat graham since she arrived so…fuck them basically
/end side note
i was disappointed that there was no dalaric other than the casual mention, there was no denzo, there was no last bamon scene which was utter bullshit considering they are supposed to be best friends though i loved damon mentioning his utter faith in bonnie and i also loved how as soon as bonnie found out damon was off to sacrifice himself she was like ‘nope i’m gonna save their asses’ once again
i’m waiting for a character to embody the title of ‘Queen’ more than bonnie bennett
still waiting
like we literally got a daroline scene but no bamon scene…what. the. frick?
i don’t care for katherine or datherine or steferine so all of that was a complete waste of time for me and the fact that katherine got more than elena in terms of screen time makes me all types of bitter but once again nina owned what she was given so kudos
i’m happy bonnie’s endgame was her getting the fuck out of mystic falls and i realize that their intention with that was to portray her as strong and moving on whilst still having enzo there whenever she needs him but i also can’t ignore the inherent wrongness of the black girl who has sacrificed literally everything of herself being the one who gets the ‘on her own/off to explore the world’ storyline whilst elena gets her happily ever after with damon and caroline gets her family and the future tease of klaus (also fucking africa?? s e r i o u s l y ? ?) whilst bonnie is supposed to be content with a semi love life she can’t really have until she’s dead ! ! ! n o p e 
(like bonnie is literally the only one who ends up alone after she saved every single other character multiple times I’M SO FUCKING ANGRY THAT HER ENDGAME IS COMPLETELY SEPARATE OF EVERYONE ELSE’S LIKE ‘THANKS FOR ENSURING WE LIVED LONG ENOUGH TO GET OUR HAPPILY EVER AFTERS BUT WE’RE FINE NOW BYE’ what the fuck honestly)
but i’m white so i can’t really speak to that racist nonsense and there are hundreds of people in this fandom way more qualified to speak on that than me so i won’t say anymore on it
and then the whole ‘oh we thought maybe matt and bonnie could eventually get together but we left that up to the audience’ bullshit just bc matt’s the only guy left *barf noises*
i love matt but come on (also there wasn’t enough matt for me either)
i never really liked bonenzo but i can deal with it even though it should have been bamon until bonnie died and then i’d have been fine with delena after that bc i am of the opinion that u can have more than one epic love and to me damon was in love with both bonnie and elena and we were robbed but again w/e my multishipping ass will just have to be content with fanfiction
i hate that tyler got nothing but a tiny scene smiling at matt and holding hands with vicki bc they did that character so dirty after giving him such a fantastic journey in the early seasons
listen highkey we should’ve gotten forwood but then klaroline butted in with all its nonsense and tyler lockwood was sacrificed on the alter of shipper bullshit
I HATE THAT WE GOT NO JERLENA REUNION AND IT WASN’T EVEN HINTED AT IN THE WHOLE ‘ELENA DIED THEN REUNITED WITH HER FAMILY’ SCENE
B U L L S H I T
like superficially this finale was good as far as finale’s go, i’ve had to deal with a lot worse, but when u pick it apart and get past the glossy happily ever after sheen it’s kinda false to a lot of the relationships and characters
basically i have a lot of mixed feelings on it but i personally got enough that i can now move on without feeling entirely like i wasted 8 years of my life on the show and 12 years on these characters and relationships tho lbr they never really followed the books anyway
the thing i’m most thankful for about this show is the people i’ve met online through it and if the most i can take away from this experience is the friendships i’ve made with other fans then it’s been worth it
i know some of u won’t agree with everything i’ve said, some might not agree with any of it, but i appreciate u reading it anyway and i hope the finale meant enough to u that u can still be glad u fell into the hellhole that was tvd
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bepassionate24writings · 8 years ago
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*Last 3 chapters*
Chapter Twenty-Seven: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10683415/28/Dangerous-Minds
Chapter Twenty-Eight: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10683415/29/Dangerous-Minds
Epilogue: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10683415/30/Dangerous-Minds
“Dangerous Minds”
AU. AH. FBI agent Stefan Salvatore, must come to terms with his haunting past when his daughter goes missing without a trace. Even if it means tracking down a woman who has been eluding his task force for years & who has more in common with him than anyone truly knows.What happens when dangerous minds play perfect games?(Stelena,Bamon,Klaus/OC,Halijah,Forwood,Mentions of Datherine)
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kiss-my-freckle · 2 years ago
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I'm laughing at the nonsense. Claiming the vervain necklace is a Stelena thing that the writers tried to make a Delena thing is like claiming roadside feeding is a Datherine thing when it became a Delena thing. Elena doesn’t decide what that necklace means for Damon, just as Stefan doesn’t decide what it means for Elena. It holds meaning for ALL three of them, so it belongs to BOTH ships whether fans like it or not. If it didn’t mean anything to Damon, he wouldn’t be bothering with it. He does because it does. It doesn’t need to mean anything to Elena to be a Delena thing, it's a Delena thing because it holds meaning for Damon. 
If we’re to get technical, the necklace is Damon-centered. Stefan only gave it to Elena to protect her from Damon’s compulsion. Despite him later claiming it was (also) to protect her from him, it was just about protecting her from Damon. “There must be a shred of humanity left inside my brother. Somewhere. I keep hoping. But how do I make him see it? And how do I protect her?”
Lexi made mention to what it represents for Stefan. 
Lexi: That necklace. At least tell me you remember how you felt about that. You found it during your darkest time. And you said, when you made it through, that that necklace represented hope.
Damon and Elena both made mention to what it represents for her. 
Damon: Isn't this the reminder of your unbreakable bond with Stefan?
Elena: He gave me the one thing that represented hope for me and his brother.
The representation it holds for Damon is obvious, since he tried to kiss her in 1x3. Stefan basically tells you that it represents “real love” for Damon. 
Stefan: This isn't about sex or...or compulsion or any of our other tricks. She has to want to be with me on her own terms.
There are two necklaces. One from the prison world, left at Stefan’s grave. The other, left in the Lockwood tunnel in 3x15. Now that Damon is human, he can go get it. And he likely will because it means something to HIM. 
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hazel-wolf · 6 years ago
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Table of Contents
The Vampire Diaries Roleplay (My Audition for the RP) May 28th, 2011 - July 28th, 2011
Note: I deleted my original hazel-wolf account on August 29, 2011. It has always been a regret of mine even if I saved everything so I recreated my account to archive the posts from this role-play.
Storyline: Hazel is found by Damon Salvatore when she runs away from home to escape the abuse she suffers from her parents. Through him Hazel meets Elena and Stefan who adopt her and take care of her and give her the home and family she deserves. She is able to reclaim her childhood with them, and they love her and accept her even though she is a werewolf. Hazel now has a home, parents, stuffed animals and a family that loves her. She feels like the luckiest child in the world!
Faceclaim: My face claim in this role-play was Dakota Blue Richards, I chose her because I loved her portrayal in The Golden Compass. My face claim for Hazel now is Mackenzie Foy.
Ships: Stelena & Datherine
Table of Contents
Note: I did my best to put the role-plays in order. Given how different role-plays were being written at the same time certain things might be mentioned that you have to read the next role-play to understand.
Hazel and Arleen
Hazel and Damon Meet, going to the hotel
Hazel and Elena Meet
Elena and Damon talk about Hazel at The Grill
Going to the Lake House!
Elena tells Stefan about Hazel
Katherine and Damon Trip
The Boarding House - Elena and Damon argue
Hazel and Damon - Boarding House
Elena and Katherine talk about Hazel - “You see her as your own.”
Katherine and Damon talk about Hazel - “I spoke to Elena… I get it.”
The Boarding House Damon and Elena - ”She is…cute.”
Getting Ready for the Wedding
Mystic Falls Church Wedding
The Wedding Reception Hazel and Katherine
The Wedding Reception Hazel and Elena
The Wedding Reception Hazel and Damon
The Wedding Reception Stefan and Damon
The Wedding Reception Damon and Katherine - ”She is kinda cute”
The Wedding Reception Elena and Stefan
Stefan and Elena’s Family, morning after the wedding
Hazel and Stefan Meet
Texting – Hazel and Damon
Stefan and Hazel talk history
Stefan and Damon forest talk, before Hazel’s Full Moon
Damon and Katherine talk, before Hazel’s Full Moon
Hazel’s Full Moon - Lake House
The Lake House after the full moon - Elena and Stefan
The Lake House after the Full Moon - Pancakes and Promises
Damon and Elena fight after Full Moon
Stefan and Elena’s room, after Damon and Elena fight
Damon and Stefan on Hazel, after Damon and Elena fight
Damon and Hazel, after full moon
Take Away my Humanity
Trying to Understand – Damon and Hazel
Hazel’s Nightmare
The Gilbert House - Stefan and Elena
Hazel goes shopping with Stefan and Elena!
Elena Meets Izzy
Out for Lunch with Stefan
Elena and Damon talking about Hazel
Elena and Hazel – “Thank you for being a mother to me”
Mother Fears
Uncle Damon
Hazel and Bonnie
Elena and Bonnie
Stefan and Hazel forest walk fun!
Talking with Family - after Forest Fun!
Izzy - Trouble at the Boarding House!
Izzy Again
Conflicted Feelings
Damon Babysitting Hazel
Shopping and the Pink Cat
Showing Elena the Pink Cat!
Talking about School
Stefan and Elena Bed and Breakfast
Kidnapped!
Hazel’s Happy Future
Writers
Note: A lot of our members deleted, but I still wanted to credit everyone. If you ever stumble upon this blog and wish to have your current account listed, just message me on hazelswish.
Hazel is written by hazel-wolf. Damon Salvatore is written by takeawaymyhumanity Elena Gilbert is written by judgeylittleeyes Stefan Salvatore is written by romancenovel-stare Jenna Sommers is written by no-secrets-onlydirtyshame Alaric Saltzman is written by imtoosexyformycross-bow Arleen is written by publicenemy1994 Izzy is written by theoriginalflirt Katherine Pierce is written by -norules Bonnie Bennet is written by pr0tectingu
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zalrb · 2 years ago
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wdym debekah is what people think datherine couldve been
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i don't think any of this was or could've been datherine, i think that could've been debekah for all the reasons mentioned in the debekah post.
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zalrb · 4 years ago
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Hey zal, how do you plan on differentiating stefan and damon's behaviour in the datherine and stelena relationships respectively. I mean, stefan knew that damon and katheine were in a physical relationship when he decided to confess his love for her. I ain't saying that damon's repititive self assertion on elena is romantic. So i will stick to that one point in 4.07 where he made out with elena on the same day of stefan's breakup. It was rude af, but stefan made out katherine too, when he knew that damon was involved with her. Maybe i am drawing parallels bw wrong scenes. You could correct me.
Was stefan wrong? If he was, so is damon. Both cared about the girls more than each other.
Even if this was correct, I would still say it’s not comparable because it ignores  that the whole point is that Katherine was the one who was always in control and was the one who chose who to be with at what time, which is why we get lines like this:
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It also ignores the heavy implication that even in contemporary times, Stefan doesn’t know the full story but I’ll get to that later.
So this is something I’ve seen Damon fans struggle with: Damon may have been physical with Katherine first but he wasn’t with Katherine first, meaning that the first Salvatore Katherine actually shows interest in, the Salvatore Katherine actually picks (even before the retcon in 5x11) is Stefan, right when she shows up to the Salvatore Mansion for the very first time in 1864:
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and Damon knows this because he sees it:
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But Stefan hesitates
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so despite seeing this attraction, Damon goes after her and puts himself in the running:
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(these two gifs are actually indicative of Stefan and Damon’s dynamic, Damon follows a woman and Stefan follows Damon)
But even when Damon and Katherine have a sexual relationship
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she says that she will be lonely without Damon when he leaves for the war and he says that Stefan will keep her company so she says
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Which indicates that she was still seeing Stefan, still being courted by Stefan, still in some kind of entanglement with Stefan, she just got dicked down by Damon first. This is further proven when Stefan takes Katherine to the ball, he says this:
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Him saying that he’s in competition for her affections means that he thinks that both he and Damon are trying to win her hand so he actually didn’t know they were together, he didn’t know that Damon was behind the door, listening to everything,
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he didn’t know they’d been physical:
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At the point of the Founders Ball, Stefan thinks that a choice between the two of them still exists
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whereas Damon actually makes fun of Stefan for being so forward because he’s in on something that Stefan isn’t, which is that he’s already fucking Katherine
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It isn’t until after they have sex and she compelled him that Stefan realizes that she had a plan for a coerced polyamorous relationship all along
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and it’s repeatedly shown in the series that both in 1864 and in 200whateveritwas Stefan still doesn’t know everything that happened between Damon and Katherine because Damon repeatedly lied to him or kept things from him, as did Katherine:
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Like I don’t understand why it’s so difficult for people to realize that Katherine manipulated the shit out of Stefan and Damon stood back and watched but somehow reach the conclusion that Stefan giving Elena her diary in 1x01 is a diabolical plan. It’s really akin to the anons who ask me if Caroline was too judgemental about Damon and Elena and a bad friend to Elena but don’t even consider that Elena was a bad friend to Caroline by fucking her rapist.
NOT TO MENTION, that even if this was correct, you are comparing Stefan hitting on Katherine even though she slept with Damon first (because that’s all Stefan would know about the matter) with Damon sleeping with Elena the day after she broke up with Stefan when he was privy to the knowledge that Stefan had resisted compulsion for Elena, had taken bullets for Elena, had fought off werewolves for Elena, had vowed to die for Elena, had been so deeply, profoundly, irrevocably, head-over-heels, us-against-the-world in LOVE with Elena and that is just ridiculous.
Because when Stefan say this:
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He’s saying that at the time, he didn’t care that out of the two of them, he thought Katherine chose him because he just wanted her and he’d won the competition fair and square and Damon would just have to deal with it:
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When Damon says this
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He’s saying I know that you two had an epic love story and that you’re the love of my brother’s life but I really don’t give a shit that you two aren’t together anymore because it makes me feel better.
Absolutely not the same thing. No.
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