#megxit for real

[grits-galraisedinthesouth]

After this, I will be good. I will be good I promise.

[trexalicious]

Another person, British actress Hannah Waddingham, discussed on Late Night with Seth Meyers what a mean girl TW is from personal experience...

[brf-rumortrackinganon]

Could you elaborate a bit on what the "half in-half out" deal that the Sussexes wanted (and were denied) actually involved? It comes up pretty frequently and I'm personally pretty unsure about what they actually were asking to receive and why the royals shot it down leading to total megxit.

Half-in: They wanted to be part-time official working royals to represent The Queen and the BRF but no longer cooperate with the royal rota for coverage of their activities and control how the public interacted/engaged with them.

Half-out: When they weren’t on official duty for The Queen/BRF, they wanted to make their own money through commercial deals for content, products, speaking gigs, and paid appearances, and all interactions with the press would be invite-only (aka no invite, no press access).

Why The Queen refused: It would have made the BRF pay-for-play, when their greatest asset is being “accessible” to all kinds of people from all walks of life. A pay-for-play system benefits only the wealthy and those who can afford it, drastically reducing the kind of reach, impact, and recognition the BRF has.

Why it led to Megxit: The Queen said “either you’re in or you’re out, full stop.” Meaning that if Harry and Meghan wanted to be official working royals and represent her/the BRF, they could not make their own money, control media/press access to their events, and limit the public commentary (aka censorship). But if they chose to make their own money, control access, and restrict the public, then they could not be official working members of the royal family. The Sussexes didn’t like that so they said “fine, we quit” and moved to California instead.

Here is Harry and Meghan’s first official statement about leaving the BRF and yes - it was first released on Instagram (vs the usual palace authorities):

This statement came after some leaks and scoops from Dan Wooten in The Sun. You can easily see what they envisioned for half in/half out:

Modernize the "spare" role in the royal family

No longer be senior members of the family, but continue representing the monarchy as needed

Being financially independent

Live part of the year in North America pursuing their own interests while living the rest of the year in the UK doing royal work

Raise Archie with appreciation for tradition

Launch their own charity

Collaborate with The Queen, Charles, William, and staff.

Still remain your beloved Duke and Duchess of Sussex

(My interpretation: They wanted to travel on the BRF's dime; attend signature BRF events; raise Archie as a fully-blooded Prince of the Realms; monetize their titles and social media; fund their personal charity work on the back of The Queen's, Charles's, and William's own works and efforts; and spend the glamorous British social season in the UK being royal, spend the shoulder seasons in Canada representing The Queen, and spend the brutal Canadian winter attending the glamorous Hollywood awards season and traveling the Caribbean Commonwealth nations. YMMV.)

When this statement was published, two things happened:

Everyone went to the Sussex Royal website to read their plan and immediately began laughing/rolling their eyes about how tone-deaf and ridiculous some of their demands were.

The BRF reacted with the royal equivalent of "wait a fucking minute."

Neither reaction was what the Sussexes expected. They expected total praise and support from the press and they expected the BRF to totally roll over and beg them to stay (and we know that because of the stories that Sussex-friendly press were writing). So immediately the Sussexes began clapping back - both at the public and at the BRF. For example, see this cflapback to claims that they blindsided the BRF with their "resignation" as senior royals by none other than Omid Scobie.

Also while they were clapping back via the press and social media associates, the content on their Sussex Royal website began getting changed and updated in real-time based on the critical commentary from the press (and likely alo the initial reactions from the BRF) in an attempt to show that the Sussexes still remained fully in control of their "Spring 2020 transition", like so:

As a result, the original manifesto angry-posted on January 8, 2020, is no longer easily available - most of the blogs that I’d consult for the original manifesto are no longer available (like Cat's original blog, which Sussex Squad forced down in 2021) and the ones that remain, their archives are enormous that it's like searching for a needle in a haystack. You can still find it, but it will require a LOT of patience because this was like a powder keg exploding - everyone came crawling out of the woodwork with commentary and criticism.

[celticcrossanon]

Can you imagine all these people who worked so hard to present Harry as a cheeky, fun-loving royal prince who appeared to be a "legit" Army pilot-- now have to see the real Harry act like an ass in public? All their hard work went right down the drain once that ginger idiot Megxited. I feel sorry for those palace aides. They really had a thankless job and will have a thankless job again if they are asked to rehab Harry's reputation for the 2nd time if he moves back to the UK.

Hi Nonny,

I feel sorry for them in one way, because of all the wasted effort, but then I think well, it was their job and they were paid for it and they did it well at the time, so maybe my sympathy is misplaced.

The biggest tell in that is Edward Lane Fox being asked if he would come back and work with Harry again and him giving the polite equivalent of "Hell No". To me, that indicates both how far Harry is from redemption and how impossible he was to work with.

I don't envy the people who will eventually have to rehabilitate Harry when he returns to the BRF. They have next to nothing to work with and Harry will expect to be elevated back to Hero Harry in the blink of an eye (imo), a task that is impossible (also imo).

[saintmeghanmarkle]

The long game BRF edition by u/GreatGossip

The long game, BRF edition Sinners, it just struck me that it is now 4 years since Megxit. But if we look at it closely, the last year in particular has been a disaster for the Grifters. No new contracts (except Lemonada, lol), endless attempts at rebranding, countless manifestations of film roles, Madam directing, all kinds of lofty plans.But what have we seen in reality? Madam merching whatever she can get her claws on, Harry doing Rent-A-Royal gigs, Madam paying for speaking and so on.Both Grifters are trying desperatly to cling to the BRF. But really, since the Coronation Harry has had 12 minutes with the king. Madam tries manifesting all kinds of calls, correspondance, invitations etc, but it is all gaslighting. So I posit that the longer the Grifters are away from real royalty the more they will sink into Kardashian fame. And imho the Grifters will never be near real royalty again. Their inevitable demise was just postponed a bit by the Jubilee, the funeral and the coronation. But let us remember that there are no big royal events in the Harkle future. post link: https://ift.tt/QKWx8rO author: GreatGossip submitted: March 22, 2024 at 01:18AM via SaintMeghanMarkle on Reddit disclaimer: all views + opinions expressed by the author of this post, as well as any comments and reblogs, are solely the author's own; they do not necessarily reflect the views of the administrator of this Tumblr blog. For entertainment only.

[sassyfrassboss]

I’m kinda bored by the Sussexes. I used to get some entertainment out of them because they really surprised me time and time again how out of touch, delusional and entitled they are. But now nothing they do surprises me anymore. ...... I don't even think its boredom for me it's the horrible turn its all took its all so nasty and as Kates health issues and Charles Cancer has proven they have real life stuff going on but the Harkles just keep Pilling 💩 on them.

It was horrible enough what they did to The Queen but then the interview with Oprah just after PP died and then HMTLQs death and how they again made it about them and then accidently on purpose exposing Kate and Charles as the "royal racist" its Al so incredibly viscious and for what? A merch cheque? I'll never understand why she went out of her way to break up and bully a family who did everything they could and more to make her feel welcome.

They're very unhinged and even though I can't stand him I feel sorry for Harry when she's finally done with him cos all kinds of accusations are gonna come out about him.

Meghan has to be one of the nastiest people I've ever read about and it's not even just with the RF but how she treats people behind the scenes ETC not to mention The sugars are a whole new level of low with where they take it I mean when you're wishing the deaths of CHILDREN so your cult leader can take over a monarchy you say is trash amayway then it's gone too far.

Meghan was gunning for Catherine since Day 1. All because Catherine didn't offer a ride to Meghan to the shops. Bonkers.

When/if Meghan is done with Harry I imagine she is going to bury him. He is too stupid to believe she will ever turn on him completely.

So your post made me think of something.

Since 2018 Meghan has done everything she can to take away from Catherine. She has scheduled appearances on Catherine's birthday, W&C's anniversary, the kids birthdays, etc.

Hell, the announced Megxit on Catherine's birthday and Harry released Spare on her birthday as well.

It's incredible how much they target Catherine.

[anonymoushouseplantfan]

.....Royalty isn’t celebrity and it’s not really a brand..... being royal only really matters in the royal sphere it has no actual place in the real world and that's the harsh reality she's learning. Of cause people like when a new princess is crowned or a royal baby is born but actual day to day old people's home and plaque unveiling? No one gives a crap and they especially don't give a crap in a country where they don't even recognise noble titles. She was a novelty when she went to HW but the novelty has worn off and she has nothing to show for it, she didn't capitalise on "Megxit" at all and the only thing they've done is complain about their family like everyone doesnt have similar issues.

That was a big miscalculation on their part. They thought they would be “America royals” for hire visiting schools in Harlem and getting paid big bucks for inspirational speeches, but that’s not a job that exists in the US. It doesn’t translate.

[the-empress-7]

That aquamarine ring...I think it's been confirmed that Meghan hasn't worn it since her wedding reception. Even then, some say that was a copy. I do not know where I saw it, but what she is wearing is not Diana's ring. This tracks with what we know about Meghan not being trusted with any jewelry or tiaras.

I don't think she has worn the real thing since Megxit.

[bookworm2things]

No more fairytales!

The reason why we are not getting the attention we deserve and the justice we are asking for is because some in the Megxit community are taking it all too far - this is not really Meghan, this is a fake Harry, the children do not exist etc... The children DO exist, but HOW did they come into this world is the REAL and ONLY  question we should concern ourselves with and the only thing which concerns us and UNTIL H & M prove that either or both of these children came into this world via MM’s birth canal they do NOT belong in the LoS. Not because I say so, NOT because we have anything against the children, but because it is LAW in Great Britain and it’s Realm...!

[charlotte-of-wales]

“William has shown time and time and again that he's willing to do anything to protect Catherine”

To be perfectly fair in the four years that have passed since Megxit he hasnt said a word or allowed a single attributed leak to defend her from the onslaught. I’m not saying that it would necessarily have been wise to put out statements and get in a war of words with the nutters but IMO he isnt exactly fighting the hoards for her. He came out with a full ass statement after the panorama investigation, and leaked that he would “like to put his arm around” H after the drama started, but he has done neither for K. He didnt say anything when she was dragged as a racist, he didnt say anything to spare her, the kids, Rose or himself the humiliating rumours about cheating - rumours that are now established narrative-, he didnt say anything about the abuse she’s been experiencing since January. Idk if keeping perfectly quiet and pretending not to notice counts as being protective. Not like with his mother; he took on the bbc and implicitly all the press over her. He invited H&M on that walkabout against all reason and to Kate’s clear unhappiness just to make lil bro feel included.

I’ll admit to being a bit bitter about his silence, and I do think they are a good loving couple who handle being royal the best way possible, but frankly I also think she does A LOT more for him than he does for her. I’m not saying he has to be anything like his nutjob brother, but this W is protective thing is starting to come across a bit like the W is a statesman line only with less concrete evidence- smthg they keep telling us but doesnt necessarily seem all that real. Kind of a self perpetuating myth, if you ask me.

what exactly is he supposed to do though? Statements won't do anything and pushing for a wave of PR only does more harm than good - as proven by H&M and Camilla. They are a private couple and airing their business is exactly what they don't do. Providing her the privacy she wants is Williams's role as her husband and that's what he is doing.

[trexalicious]

Harry and Meghan Hit A New Low With The Mental Health Summit...

[brf-rumortrackinganon]

Do you think Harry will ever recover his reputation - or at least what the palace created for him? It just seems such a stark contrast between real RF engagements and what they put out. William just carries himself like a serious and relatable person, which sends a very powerful message.

Nope.

The only ways Harry can get some aspect of his reputation back are to 1) leave Meghan, 2) complete rehab for addiction issues and become a teetotaler, and 3) actual, hard, real work - bread and butter engagements in the Princess Anne tradition. All three need to happen and *maybe* Harry can get his approval ratings up into the 50s or 60s in about 10ish years or so from leaving Meghan.

Harry is never going to get approval ratings back in the 90s again and he’s never going to have his pre-Meghan (or pre-Megxit) reputation back. The media will have a short memory and they’ll be the first to forgive Harry, but the general public has a much, much longer memory. They’ll remember what he did to The Queen, Prince Philip, and William long after the press has forgotten, and that’ll be reflected in his ratings and reputation.

But I’m skeptical that Harry can do those three things. I can see him leaving Meghan and I can see him doing rehab, especially if it’s a requirement to come back in on the family side, but I can’t see him picking up Anne’s kind of workload of exclusively bread-and-butter-engagements. He wants exactly what William has, which is military engagements, state visits, and signature/niche charity work that lets him travel abroad, look busy, take credit, and seem important. He doesn’t actually want to *be* busy and *do* work.

He didn’t in 2015/2016 before Meghan came along. He didn’t before Megxit (and in fact, the pre-Megxit era was when his desire to be equal to William really amped up). He didn’t after Megxit, and he won’t post-Meghan.

But of course, William is the linchpin here. If William forgives Harry and William lends Harry his PR magic (which he did pre-Meghan in the Cambridge+Harry trio era), then Harry could probably get part of his reputation back. The public holds William’s actions and what William says in really high esteem, to where a great majority of them take their cues from him. If William takes Harry back, then the public will take Harry back.

And personally, I think there’s no chance there. William might allow Harry back, but he’s not letting Harry back fully in. That bridge is well and truly burned, and I think William’s reckoning with Kate’s health crisis, and Charles’s cancer, has made him totally reevaluate everything. I feel William is more fully aware of what is truly important to his family and his future and in the revised priorities of his future monarchy, what his brother wants (or needs) no longer has a part.

[celticcrossanon]

I’m the anon who wrote that your post resonated with my observation/intuition. I thought I would send in a lengthy list of things I think may be going on behind the scenes. These things may “fit” with your reading:

1) Harry has massively betrayed William and Catherine. From the Oprah interview to the accusation of physical assault in his book to gossip/lies planted in the press, he has inflicted enormous pain on them and William has actually lost his brother. In addition to losing his mother in tragic circumstances, over the last few years he has grieved two grandparents and his brother.

2) Years ago, Charles wanted to find a solution to appease the Megxit half-in/half-out demands. William and the Queen were in agreement this was not viable and chose to preserve the monarchy over Harry’s feelings. Charles wants Harry back. He has very little to no real concern for William and Catherine. It’s only about him and what he envisioned his reign would look like. I also agree with another anon that there is a triangulation layer to this.

3) Action to neutralize the threat that is Harry was postponed while the Queen was ill and grieving. It was William’s expectation that action would be taken after her death. Instead, Charles has flipped the script and wants to reverse the Megxit decision.

4) Neutralizing Harry would involve releasing dirt from Harry’s past that would end him. Charles will not do it because he covered the dirt at the time, so his reputation would also suffer badly. William wants it all out. Charles wants to keep it all hidden. It troubles William because he doesn’t want to go along with further cover ups. He feels it threatens the monarchy and his reputation as well. This is out of his control, and it causes him stress.

5) Planning for the coronation brought many huge disagreements, with Charles using demands, guilt, and manipulation in private and in the press to try forcing William into agreement on Harry’s full involvement. There was a compromise, but Charles was not satisfied.

6) William accepts Charles making Camilla queen but he doesn’t like it. The whole situation is sordid, and he has had to go along with things he felt compromised his mother’s legacy. Don’t underestimate Camilla and her intentions.

7) Charles invited William to Birkhall to dine with him the night after the Queen’s death. He told him there he would be making him Prince of Wales immediately. This was intended as a “gift,” even though it benefitted Charles and withholding it would have been ludicrous. The gift had strings attached. He expected William to go along with him in all his plans and priorities. So whenever William resists, he can think or say “What more could you want? You’re ungrateful. I’ve given you everything!” That is not true, as he hasn’t given loyalty or support, but it’s how Charles sees things.

8) Those plans and priorities include increasing the popularity and public adoration of King Charles and Queen Camilla, and the expectation is that the Waleses will use their public image to aid in this effort. Charles wants them to join themselves to him publicly. He wants continual endorsement from William (the coronation oath wasn’t enough for him) as well as “happy family” PR. But Charles has a lot of skeletons in his closet and William is wise to keep their public images separate.

9) Aside from the expectation that William will aid Charles and Camilla’s PR, there’s also the expectation that he will support and help in bringing Harry back. What you said about Travalyst and Earthshot is unfortunately plausible. I also believe that Charles feels the Duchy of Cornwall offers enough funding for William to share with Harry. He supports his siblings with the Duchy of Lancaster and wants William to support Harry financially. William will not, for many reasons.

10) Charles is not happy about handing over the Duchy of Cornwall to William. He feels personally offended with every decision William makes that isn’t exactly as he did things.

11) There are some very messy courtiers in Charles’s household.

That’s about it. I’m sorry for the length. Charles is focused on his and Camilla’s popularity and legacy as well as his “darling boy” Harry’s return. There are currently enormous threats to the monarchy, and they concern and stress William very much, but Charles’s personal feelings, desires and ideals trump everything. “I am KING!”

Only time will tell if the monarchy survives this.

All alleged, my opinions, not fact, etc.

Hi Nonny,

Thank you for coming back and explaining all your thoughts. I agree with a lot of them. Harry has betrayed his family, Charles was appeasing them for quite some time (I'm not sure of the current state of affairs), the BRF has been effective in greyrocking Harry but have been reluctant to release dirt on him or on Meghan, Charles does seem to be focused on increasing his and Camilla's popularity, and he does seem to expect William to not only welcome Harry back but to support Harry and his family financially, etc and so on.

I think that the monarchy will survive this, if only because the alternative is so involved and a lot of work, but I do wonder what sort of reputation it will have by the time the crown is passed on to William. I think he will have to do a lot of work on repairing things before he can start to build his legacy as King, so I expect his reign to have a slow and rocky start, simply because of how it will be left by King Charles III. I hope I am wrong, but I just can't see King Charles passing on the feelings of respect and affection for the crown that he inherited from his mother, the late Queen. I don't see him as having her sense of duty, and it was her sense of duty that enabled the crown to be held in such solid respect and affection when she passed.

[saintmeghanmarkle]

Karma. "The World is Hooked on Kate" - Daniela Elser by u/Von_und_zu_

Karma. "The World is Hooked on Kate" - Daniela Elser Good job Megsy and hateful minions! You have become denizens of the sewer and all your nasty plotting and machinations have propelled Catherine to the position you desired most. Hoisted by your own petard. Waaaugh.The Kate Middleton, Princess of Wales takeover is here.I’ve had a busy morning with the calculator and can tell you that the three videos released by Kensington Palace of the princess this year have hit more than 165.8 million views.Her reappearance on Sunday for the mens’ finals at Wimbledon, only the second time the princess has been seen in public this year, offers us some cold hard proof of this, with the outing triggering a wild response on social media. 41 million – that’s the number of times that the videos of Kate at the tournament shared by the official Wimbledon and Kensington Palace Instagram accounts have been viewed. Add in the numbers from X, formerly Twitter, and the total across both platforms and both accounts is just shy of 50 million views. Now sure, these are not so stratospheric that they would force Kris Jenne to defy the powers of her filler-ed forehead to raise even a single, cursory eyebrow of approval but what they point to is Kate going global in a way that she never has before.\*\**Kate was dumped as one of the front row players in the biggest soap opera in the world. Post Megxit, the Sussexes’ eagerness to ventilate their feelings – and the events that had transpired behind palace gates – brought Kate to life in a way, fleshing her out as an actual person, taking her from being something of a very pretty sphinx to rendering her in colour in a way she had never been before.\***Posed perfection was replaced with realness and, courtesy of the Sussexes’ revelations, her being freighted with a cultural resonance and weight she had not previously. In 2021, her launch of The Royal Foundation Centre for Early Childhood started to add real substance to her image and public standing too. And then came 2024 with a great crashing, cacophonic bang. The first few months of this year were wholly consumed by the utter fruit loopy Kategate madness, the princess suddenly becoming the 21st century’s answer Ameilia Earhart. The Wales'’ Adelaide Cottage became social media’s grassy knoll as much of the world underwent some sort of deserves to be studied collective hallucinatory experience. Then with the revelation that Kate has cancer, a moment that demanded even more vehement synonyms than ‘shocking’ being hauled out, the princess took on a certain tragic- yet-brilliantly-brave, heroic quality.****Like her late mother-in-law Diana, Princess of Wales, she has morphed over the years from liked in the UK and Commonwealth, to adored in the UK and Commonwealth, to global celebrity, to mythical figure. Which, I reckon, is how we land at than Kate videos being viewed more 223 million times in 2024 so far. (That is, across official royal and Wimbledon accounts, across X and Instagram and of her cancer announcement, Trooping outing and appearance at the tennis. And it’s worth pointing out here we have not even factored in numbers from TikTok, where Kate and royal content is rife, because none of the royal offices have accounts on the platform.) 223 million times. That number does not speak to cursory interest or mild curiosity but the Princess of Wales having become an object of pervasive, global fascination to an unprecedented degree. 223 times. The world is indisputably hooked on Kate.Eat your heart out Megs.https://archive.ph/WoLGp​ post link: https://ift.tt/TVPIGEg author: Von_und_zu_ submitted: July 17, 2024 at 12:42PM via SaintMeghanMarkle on Reddit disclaimer: all views + opinions expressed by the author of this post, as well as any comments and reblogs, are solely the author's own; they do not necessarily reflect the views of the administrator of this Tumblr blog. For entertainment only.

[sassyfrassboss]

God I hope everyone is correct about the divorce being imminent. She really thinks she did something because of those useless titles she finally got for her phantom children nobody cares about. How does she not see they are even more insignificant than Beatrice and Eugenie, who are blood princesses that no one has ever cared about or paid attention to? I guarantee you that massive idiot and her delusional tunnel vision-like, dog with a bone self thinks she pulled her ultimate ace card. I KNEW (we all did) those damn titles were what she was seriously holding out for (for the divorce) and what Megxit was really always about. She’s such a moron thinking do nothing titles equal millions lol. But good riddance to her and her vile cult once it is all done and dusted! Can’t come soon enough. She still won’t win in the end; and since Meghan fumbled the bag so badly she won’t even make out as well as Katie Holmes did. That’s her real karma because this whole sham/ SCAM marriage was only about money for her. I hope that thieving grifter ends up like that other con artist Elizabeth Holmes once the IRS goes in on all of her dodgy finances!

She always overplays her hand...always.

[anonymoushouseplantfan]

She’s back to Tig levels of merching or slightly above. $20-50k per item depending on the event. And borrowing rights. And the higher range would be for actual events with real media coverage, not casual backyard hikes or sushi dates that end up on TMZ. I don’t see how they can maintain their lifestyle on that.

Remember when she leaked to Dan Wotton that she was in talks with Givenchy to be their brand ambassador? Whatever happened with that?

I remember the days of the billion dollar brand the Sussexes were building when they first left the UK. Every other day, there were hundreds of articles on how the Sussexes will become billionaires and dwarf the then Cambridges. There was no day you go on the internet without reading about how brands were falling over themselves to work with them and how Tom Cruise was bidding for her and how the Obamas and the Clooneys were forming a ring of steel around them. The megxit pr onslaught was insane

I know! They’re building up to some project announcement now, but I don’t see how it could possibly match that post-Megxit hype.

I’ll die it it turns out to be hype for Tig 2.0.