#master & apprentice series

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THEY REFLECT EACH OTHER

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AHSOKA - Part One - MASTER AND APPRENTICE

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SHIN HATI & SABINE WREN

“Master and Apprentice” | Ahsoka

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Qui-Gon Jinn aka The Maverick

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God though the fight choreography in Ahsoka really is next fucking level.

Like. Every so often I think fondly about the lightsaber duels in the OT because, bluntly, there weren't lightsaber duels in the OT. There were a handful of scenes in which two characters who didn't like each other much both happened to be holding lightsabers, and on some occasions they tapped the lightsabers together to make very satisfying noises. But we've now come far enough in the star war that we're getting detailed attention to genuine fighting styles, and fighting styles as character essays in themselves.

I just love it.

This show does SO MUCH characterization through physicality in combat; there's a whole meta-dialogue happening just through the portrayal of lightsaber forms and it has SO MUCH heavy lifting to do and does it WELL.

Like, for example, all the little character details that have to be PERFECT in the first two confrontations. I'm just gonna do the tower fight at the moment because the forest battle is its own whole thing and the wolfwren meetcute tower fight illustrates it just fine on its own.

Things that had to be established with little to no exposition in those two fights:

Sabine and Shin are pretty much equals, overall, in combat; BUT

Shin has her VASTLY outmatched as a duellist specifically, because she's been training in solely lightsaber combat more intensely and for longer; BUT

Shin doesn't KNOW that, because she's never fought Sabine before and all she knows is that she's facing an unfamiliar opponent who was Jedi-trained; AND

Sabine DOES know she's outmatched in this fight--she's unarmored, not a small deal for a Mandalorian, and armed only with a lightsaber that while she has trained with it pretty extensively she explicitly hasn't touched in years; BUT

Sabine is ALSO, separately, a highly skilled martial artist and hand-to-hand fighter even with the disadvantage of not being in armor. She's not a pushover or a flailing idiot.

Like it's obvious before Shin even draws that Sabine is not going to win this fight--and Sabine at least is visibly aware of it.

It's clear from their stances alone. Sabine stands and moves like a novice--not untrained, mind, but a novice. She's very cautious, very aware of her footwork, and while that's a good ready position it's extremely hesitant, she's not comfortable in it. She wastes more movement. Shin on the other hand is solid, confident, and grounded.

But not arrogant. Sabine is moving like someone with experience in combat, and Shin doesn't know her or her abilities, so she doesn't rush in at the first sign of weakness. Shin might be more immediately confident with saber combat, but she is also proceeding with extreme caution.

She lets Sabine come to her, ceding the first move in favor of giving herself a chance to read her opponent before committing to anything. And when they do start exchanging blows:

Don't get me wrong--Sabine is NOT a flailing idiot, for all this specific shot makes it look like she's leaving herself open. She's just....not fluid with her lightsaber. She drops her guard when she runs, because running with a plasma sword without burning yourself is actually extremely difficult and she's keeping that thing away from her body while moving at speed.

Her strikes are decent, but her technique is sloppy and she wastes movement--again, not in a way that suggests she doesn't know what she's doing, but in a way that highlights the gap between knowing what a technique is supposed to look like and actually being able to pull it off in a live-combat scenario.

Shin, meanwhile, is fluid, deliberate, efficient, fully in control of every movement--but, frankly, she mostly looks like an impressive threat in this fight because it's an apprentice-level skirmish between two evenly-matched opponents, and Sabine is at a stark disadvantage.

Don't get me wrong, Shin's doing very well--but in a way that highlights her main strength as being extremely solid on her fundamentals. None of these are high-level moves, almost all of them would show up in a youngling kata, and the few that wouldn't are mostly flair like this dramatic-ass battle pose.

We do see some signals that Shin's saber training is at a meaningfully higher level than Sabine's, though--she's had time to develop some of her own technique! I love the way she uses her cape as a combat asset; that's not something Baylan would have taught her, he doesn't have her highly-mobile fighting style (to put it lightly) and it feels just practical enough.

So they feel like viable rivals, Shin feels like a viable threat, and there's still a visceral awareness in the kind of choreography they're given that if Sabine fought Baylan, or Shin tried to 1v1 Ahsoka, they would not last ten goddamn seconds.

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realized i haven't posted this shin & baylan sketch i did few weeks ago... just a wholesome father&daughter moment 😊

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What if a reason why Sabine wanted to be trained by Ahsoka to be a Jedi is because she saw the strong, beautiful & unbreakable relationship between master (Kanan) and apprentice (Ezra)

After all she’s been through, after all she’s lost. She thinks maybe she could have that with Ahsoka. And if she has that bond with Ahsoka maybe in a way she has a part of Kanan & Ezra with her! 😭

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Okay, theory time, so grab your tinfoil hats, folks.

My theory as to why Ahsoka and Sabine had their falling out is because of the Mandalorian Purge. And here are my reasons:

"I go where I'm needed." "Not always." Those 2 simple words spoken by Sabine were dripping with unresolved hurt. She's still carrying around a personal grudge toward Ahsoka for abandoning her in what was likely her (and her people's) greatest time of need. My theory is that Sabine begged Ahsoka to help and Ahsoka refused, presumably because she knew there was nothing they could do.

She's no longer wearing her armor when we first see her. Initially, we all assumed it was because the war was over and she didn't need it anymore (and she was mourning Ezra). But I don't think that's it. Sabine is a Mandalorian through and through--she was damn proud of that armor, which had been handed down through her family for generations. For her to take it off and essentially shun her heritage, speaks volumes. I think the fact that she was able to help save Lothal but not Mandalore (and her family) damn near destroyed her. She took the armor off and shirked her identity as a Mandalorian as a way of mourning the genocide of her people. The scene where she lays it out, piece by piece, has an almost reverent, mournful tint to it. Like it's this great weight she's once again picking up and choosing to shoulder. I wouldn't put it past her to think that she's the only one left, and that it's now her responsibility to carry on the traditions. Ahsoka and Sabine weren't ready to truly become Master and Apprentice during the Rebellion. But now they carry around a shared hurt--both have seen their people slaughtered to almost extinction. And I think at some point, they're going to confront this shared reality and it'll be the thing that really binds them together.

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Personally, I’m glad that Filoni opted to focus on the Master / Apprentice relationships in the Ahsoka series. I think it was fitting based on Ahsoka’s own trauma with her master that makes her reluctant to train or teach the next generation of Jedi, and while I still think Sabine was an odd choice, I do think that Sabine is a character that plays well off of Ahsoka based on their personalities.

I know there are chunks of fandom that are mad that other relationships weren’t explored. I think it’s also fair to say that, at this point, there are very few characters that Ahsoka doesn’t know in the time period, and making the show a cameo-soaked “Ahsoka and Friends” montage would have been tired, lame and pointless. I know some fans get rock hard on cameos, glup shittos and blurbos making nonsensical and inconsequential appearances, I prefer a good story that is focused and at least somewhat resembles something that makes sense. Throwing Rex and Barriss and force ghost Plo Koon and force ghost Yoda and force ghost Obi-Wan and Luke and Leia and Hera and Sabine and Zeb and Chewbacca and Han and R2D2 and C-3PO and Boba Fett and Mando and Grogu and Bo-Katan and Mon Mothma and ten other senators and force ghost Anakin and flashbacks of the Wrens and Rook Kast and Gar Saxon and Mace Windu and Baby Ben Solo and all the rest would have been so much that it would have completely taken away from Ahsoka herself… the titular character of the show.

So, I’m happy we just got Ahsoka, Sabine, Huyang, Hera, Ezra, Jacen, and the ghost/ spirit of Anakin Skywalker primarily because these are the people that matter most to Ahsoka at this point in her life. And, this allowed us to get a deeper understanding and appreciation for the character that mattered most in the story, Ahsoka.

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I can go anywhere I want just not home: Ahsoka and Anakin

So my favourite part of the chapter was the way the actual ages of Ahsoka and Anakin played a part in their interaction, Ahsoka tells Anakin that he looks the same and Anakin answered that she looks old, which is true, Ahsoka is close to aging beyond Anakin´s age of death at 46 and while Anakin "looks" like clone wars Anakin, he isn´t just Anakin, this is post ROTJ Anakin, someone who already lived 23 years in the light and 23 years in the darkness, he is Vader, he is Anakin, he isn´t young at all and he is living in a whole other level in the force compared to the one Ahsoka lives, because she is still alive.

In fact the first question Anakin ask Ahsoka is if she still remembers Baylan Skoll, because that means she is still alive, she can still come back, "That´s good" he says.

I love how adult Ahsoka automatically reverts to her teenager personality when she noticed Anakin, she smiles, her eyes bright up, she makes jokes and teases Anakin just like in the good old times, because she missed him so much, in many ways he is her home and if he wasn´t there anymore she could not return home, as simple as that, she could not act as if Vader was Anakin, he was a broken version of her master, consumed by darkness, she probably was happy to hear from Luke Anakin died in the light but he was dead and she didn´t get the chance to say goobye but THIS, this is her brother/father, he is back, he looks the same, she can lower her guard, smile and tease because he is here to take care of things like he used to do when she was a child.

She only gets serious when Anakin isn´t automatically teasing her as well, when he says he needs to teach her one more thing, when he gets serious, then Ahsoka remembers Anakin isn´t just Anakin anymore, she knows him but he´s grown into someone she doesn´t know anymore either.

So Anakin begins by teasing her back, putting her at ease and then, he sends her to the heart of what´s bothering her, the clone wars. In many ways, she is still that child fighting over and over again, she no longer has a particular reason to keep fighting and she is tired. It´s such a good contrarts how while adult Ahsoka is teasing with Anakin, child Ahsoka is grumpy, she complains, she questions, she asks, just like she did in the past, this child is adult Ahsoka allowing herself to be a child again, to not have all the anwers and to complain to Anakin to give her a reason to keep fighting and explain why does it matter anymore. She could not do this with Hera and Sabine because Hera is her friend but they are not that close and she is also her superior in the alliance and Sabine depends on her to make the decisions and guide her but Anakin? He is family, she can complain all day long knowing he will try at least to listen to her and try to guide her to the best of his hability and this isn´t teenager Anakin either, this is post Vader Anakin so she knows she can get snippy, angry, mad and hostile with him all she wants, she has all the right to be and he will take it.

Anakin doesn´t just listens anymore, he counsels but he also pushes her into talking about what she doesnt want to talk about

"Do you really want a padawan?" "Being a teacher isn´t all that"

Low key Anakin is giving her the freedom of not being a teacher if she doesn´t want to be, Ahsoka looks at him affronted but it´s true, she accepted Sabine because Hera wanted her to and Sabine wanted her to but she herself isn´t sure she wants a padawan, in fact she already abandoned Sabine once, what is keeping her from doing the same again? and part of the reason she doesn´t know the answer is that she wants to be able to give Sabine or any other padawan something more than war, death and the training to be a warrior as a legacy but she is convinced there isn´t anything else she can give, because emotionally she is still that little girl forced to fight in a war, mourning for each death, mourning for her master fall and she believes that´s all she is ever going to be in the future. She fears her master fate because she believes that is going to be her fate too.

So Anakin, Vaderkin, tries to explain she has to adapt to the times, his master teached him to be a guardian of peace because that´s what he was, Anakin teached her how to be a soldier because they were fighting in a war and she would have died if he didn´t teach her how to survive war but this doesn´t mean she can´t adapt to the times she and her padawan are living and this is precisely what Ahsoka is refusing to do, she is stil in mourning so she can´t enjoy her present.

Anakin tells her she is more and even if she believes she can´t because she has his teachings in her, she is more because he also is way more than Vader.

So when Ahsoka answers him "you are more but more dangerous and powerful than anybody thoguht" and if that´s what he is, then what hope is there for her if she has inside herself his legacy, his teachings?

Is this what this is about? I gave you a choice live or die

Here Anakin gets mad because she isn´t understanding, she has his legacy but she isn´t him, his fall, his redemption, his good and his bad side are his own, not hers and in time she will have to make her own decisions, adapt, grow and teach her padawan what she had learned, they are the legacy of previous masters but they are also MORE, they are also what each one of them adds to that legacy.

So Anakin brings his other half, Vader, to teach her and test her with the same lesson Anakin learned along with Luke, his Son, you are more, you make your own choices and you can choose again and again and that´s what defines you, only you can define yourself, not others. He pushes Ahsoka with Vader´s persona to defy her to live once again but he also pushes her by showing her , her deepest fear, her falling, her becoming a darksider and he gives her an ultimatum, kill him and die herself, not just physically but the light inside of her, or live and stay in the light.

Ahsoka chooses the light and lets her lightsabers fall, just like Luke did, her lightsabers are no longer her life, she is more than war, she is more than just a warrior fighting in an eternal war but more than that, she is still herself and it´s her choice if she wants to stay being herself or die and fall.

Anakin reverts back from Vader to himself again, proud of her, happy with her choice, he reverts to show her how if he, who was in darkness for so many years, buried and dead inside could still come back, then there´s so much hope for her to make her life anew by not letting her past or her lightsabers define her anymore and this is symbolized with her being taken away from the water towards safety.

In the end, he didn´t just wanted to teach her how to live physically again or how to leave behind her past, enjoy her present and enjoy life, he also wanted her to learn she must live by not falling to the darkness and even if she falls, there´s "Hope for her still" because there was also hope for him as well and now Ahsoka can remember him without mourning, without regret.

Just so many great interactions between them. Loved this chapter. Hope we see what other scenes Anakin is going to have because this story isn´t done yet.

PD: Post ROTJ dead Anakin is so relaxed, happy and vibing, love it, honestly, good for him.

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Master, and Apprentice

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Oh god the amount of trust and faith in Shin’s eyes when she looks at Baylan in the first few episodes is so goddamn heartbreaking when you compare it to the wordless gaze she gives him after he bails and sends her away. Just, the amount of pain and rejection and hurt. Not a new statement by any means but the amount of emotion the actress gets into Shin’s staring, just her eyes, with no dialogue, is just amazing

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SHIN HATI

“Master and Apprentice” | Ahsoka

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Obi-Wan Kenobi & Qui-Gon Jinn aka The Negotiator & The Maverick