#mario is from new donk city

[lore-of-the-mushroom-kingdom]

Mario Is Not From Brooklyn

So something that I've noticed come up time and again in Mario lore discussion is people trying to argue that Mario is still an Italian American Immigrant from Brooklyn, and that he get Isekaied into the Mushroom Kingdom. They claim the New Donkers colonized the Metro Kingdom and the events of Donkey Kong Arcade took place in New York City, and they try to use Tour Earth(I'll talk about this in a future post) in this all. They also claim DK94 is the only one that takes place New Donk City. Many try to use this to claim the movie is canon to the games as well. So here's why this is not the story of the games. First off in the article from Engadget titled Super Mario Odyssey's may look bizarre, but it feels just right. We learn Mario is not an Italian American from Brooklyn. "At first, this is almost jarring. In New Donk City, a sprawling metropolis, Mario's short, squat body looks noticeably out of place, enough to make me turn to the presenters at Nintendo's E3 booth and ask a weird question: Is Mario even human? The spokesperson on hand said the company's official line for that particular query was to say that he was a native son of the Mushroom Kingdom." This is something backed up by Yoshi's New Island showing Mario and Luigi's parents live in the Mushroom Kingdom. Made further evident by them living there in Partner's In Time, and the Wooly and Crafted World games being the result of a Baby Mario, Luigi, and Peach playing in a Kindergarten.

The second thing is the city where the events of Donkey Kong took place is established to be on the same planet. Donkey Kong 94 shows this and Miyamoto also talks about it in the developer interview from Shmuplations. Miyamoto: "Right. We came up with a lot of ideas, and ultimately decided that it'd be nice if Donkey Kong got his own castle, too (laughs). The story of the original game plays out over and over ― Donkey Kong running away, the player chasing after them, running, chasing ― culminating in Donkey Kong's stomping grounds." + "The Mushroom Kingdom looks to be on the outskirts of Donkey Kong's homeland, as seen in the game's ending…" Made further evident by the Kong easily getting there in Donkey Kong Land even more evident by the manual. "Travel by Zeppelin to Donkey Kong's favorite stomping ground, Big City. The sight of that familiar skyline might bring back fond memories, but don't waste your time sightseeing when there are Kremlings around!" Also, while not canon the OVA already had the idea of Mario and Luigi being from the same planet that has the Mushroom Kingdom on it, as referring to them coming from a Kingdom from the East. While one could argue that is might have been intended to still be New York back then, it cannot be argued that is the case now.

This is because this city was renamed to New Donk City and is intended to be the one from DKA. In a 4Gamer interview titled What was the intention behind the various changes made to "Super Mario Odyssey"? We asked producer Yoshiaki Koizumi. In this interview Koizumi reveals this is the city from that one game. "We created the visuals for New Donk City with a city as the theme, and then we thought, 'Oh, come to think of it, we had a game set in a city a long time ago. Mario was in it, wasn't he?' So Pauline's name popped up like a word association game. At first, we had the idea of ​​making her the princess of New Donk City, but we thought that there wouldn't be a princess in that city's world, so we made her the mayor." This also further reveal that Pauline is indeed Lady from DKA. Speaking of Pauline, when answering her questions in SMO she mentions having been captured by an ape one time. Since there has been several kidnappings this would imply she's referring to the first and original one which took place in DKA. The one she calls traumatic and a terrible day. She also askes how well she's doing as a Mayor, that alongside some details about the city being under construction, reference to the city's origins, and coins with her face on it implied this city is pretty young and she hasn't been mayor since the city began. There is also the thing with the Classic Outfit. The final evidence for New Donk City being the city from DKA is the following. The City has the same steel gutters from DKA, alongside iconography of the original game. Something page 358 of The Art Of Super Mario Odyssey actually calls attention to. "Many of the stylistic elements in New Donk City come from this game. The billboards and red steel girders are obvious, but the taxi license plates that read '1981-ND' come from the year of this game's release" But the nail in the coffin is the festival season which is mentioned in the brochure, in particular the one you participate in, in SMO. As a New Donker says in this festival, "this festival tells the story of our city's beginnings." A detail even the Art Book calls attention to on page 358 of course. "This rivalry is re-created during the festival!" Pauline also does the movements she made in the arcade game during this festival. This festival has the theme and imagery not of Donkey Kong 94 or anything else, but specifically DKA which would be in reference to that terrible day Pauline referred to. This confirms the events of DKA took place in this city and not in real world New York City.

Not a single piece of in game information, nor does any manual, or even Odyssey interview state that the New Donker came from real world New York City. Even if Miyamoto came out now and said DKA takes place in New York, it would be wrong because the current story of the games contradicts this. It's best to treat New Donk City like Gotham, more than likely originally intended to be New York. But eventually made into a fictional city once given a proper name, and now only takes heavy inspiration from the real world place.

[suppermariobroth]

In Super Mario Odyssey, there is a hidden message from Cappy that can only be seen during the nighttime version of New Donk City, if Mario takes the motor scooter from the beginning of the section (next to where the entrance to the city would be during the day) and rides it all the way to the roof of the building to the east of the city hall.

This is much harder to do during the nighttime version of this area as it requires Mario to ride the scooter across the suspended beams of the construction site on the west side of the city. If this is done during the daytime, Cappy will not be impressed as the path from the scooter spawning point to this roof is clear and requires no dangerous platforming.

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[smallmariofindings]

In Super Mario Odyssey, the collision of the platforms in the second room of the Underground Power Plant in New Donk City is slightly misaligned from their visual appearance, causing all entities to float a short distance above the ground. Note Mario and the rat both floating slightly above their shadows in the screenshot.

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[freakattack]

most and least divorced mario characters?

Love this question

MOST DIVORCED MARIO CHARACTERS

#1: Bowser & Peach

Now, Bowser has only married Peach for dark ritual purposes, which legally I think doesn't count. However, you can't deny that there is something distinctly divorced about their relationship. Bowser Jr. is extremely fond of both of them, idolizing his father and calling Peach "Mama" (even after he knows she did not give birth to him - another point for Divorced Bowser). Bowser obviously loves his kid, and Peach really has no quarrel with him either; nevertheless, the only time Junior ever sees them alone together is when they're fighting. "Your princess is in another castle", indeed.

#2: Donkey Kong Jr.

Donkey Kong Jr. is so goddamn divorced that we don't even know who his ex-wife is. She just fucked off to nowhere. Now he is a lonely balding accountant in New Donk City, but he is doing very well for himself, so good for him. Maybe one day he will be ready to jump back into the dating scene and find his second banana.

#3 Queen Jaydes & King Grambi

They have joint custody over Luvbi but unlike Bowser and Peach they are amicably separated so all that means for her is that she gets two birthdays.

Now...

LEAST DIVORCED MARIO CHARACTERS

#1: Yoshi

#2: Cranky & Wrinkly Kong

"Til death do we part" my ass. No force on earth or otherwise is going to keep these geezers from bickering over the TV remote. Forget OTP, this is the TP.

#3: 5-Volt

Sorry fellas, 5-Volt does NOT have single mom swag. Although she is the only one of 9-volt's parents with the honor of being playable, seasoned wario veterans will know that 9-volt has a loving firefighter dad whose choice of occupation (and presumably the physique that comes with it) only "fans the flames of love" for 5-volt, disappointing MILF-hunters everywhere. Go get your own, ugly.

[bogleech]

I know I’m many years late to playing Mario Odyssey and maybe this has been discussed at length before but like, Pauline is the mayor of New Donk city right? But she doesn’t look like the citizens. They all look alike except for skin color and a gender distinction while their mayor is the only unique person and even in a different art style. So is she their “Princess Peach” and they’re her “Toads?” And therefore depending on the continuity are they different species and she’s from another world or are they the same species but a “Donker” can become a Pauline if elected mayor, making democratic election their “super crown???”

[rainbogen]

[Art by @caroline-draws-stuff ]

Based on the NES sprites, I present you with the Identical Twins au. In which Mario and Luigi were born as... well... identical instead of fraternal twins.

Their bodies and physical capabilities are, with very few exceptions, completely identical. Same strength, same jumping height, same stamina, etc.

Ditto for their looks. For those who are wondering, Luigi's green eyes are contacts he got because he liked the color. He's tried to style his moustache like in the games, but for some reason the hairs never want to stay in that shape for long.

Something similiar applies to their physical stats, which can be temporarily altered via beans, but have this strange tendency to reset themselves to the identical base values every so often...

That said, Luigi's steady diet of mushrooms during his formative years has made him slightly taller. It's no more than 2 cm and one can only notice it when they're not wearing hats, when their hair floof doesn't get in the way, and upon looking very closely, but that difference is there.

So are they 2 of the same person? Absolutely not. Mario's still the cheery, outgoing, optimistic, stubborn to a fault one. Luigi's still the clumsy, easy to scare, brave, inventive one.

But if one only looks at their appearances, it's easy to get them mixed up. How likely that is to happen varies from person to person.

For better or worse, their parents can always tell them apart effortlessly. (The bros grew up in the Brooklyn part of New Donk City and moved to the Mushroom Kingdom as adults.)

Their friends and other relatives can mostly tell them apart, though they do occassionally mess up. The bros can also pull a twin switch when they want to, just with a bit of effort.

As kids they liked to swap their shirts and hats when nobody was looking and pretend to be the other one for fun. They can still do it as adults, just with more difficulty, but rarely take that initiative.

There was one particular incident when they were in grade school. Mario had missed a major test due to being sick that day and was not good with the material, so Luigi offered to take it for him. Mario just needed to take Luigi's place for a few hours. This did not work for long, as some bullies wanted to pick on "Luigi" while his brother was away and Mario didn't take kindly to that, to say the least. Meanwhile, the teacher saw through "Mario" due to certain handwriting quirks, recognizing familiarly worded answers, and Luigi having signed the test in his own name. Both of them ended up with detention that day.

Strangers and acquaintances mixed them up quite regularly. The reason the brothers went with their NES colors as adults instead of the matching look was to make each other stand out more.

During their first mission to rescue Peach, Mario did most of the work with Luigi occasionally chipping in to help. This, along with Mario's more outgoing personality in general, led to many assuming they were the same person.

And when Luigi went out in public to do things like shopping and used his own name, the Toads either assumed he's Mario making jokes or using an alias to avoid drawing too much attention and decide to "play along".

The brothers being adressed by their surname by many people in the beginning meant this development wasn't noticed until it had already spread. Some even went as far as to say the idea of Mario having a brother was just a rumor.

To say Mario wasn't happy about this when he found out is a massive understatement. As soon as he heard the news, he cashed in a favour from Peach and she assembled a public conference just so Mario could clear up the misunderstanding. And gush about how cool his lil bro is while he was at it.

Meanwhile Bowser, despite having fought both brothers, at first didn't even catch on to them being two different people. He just thought it was Mario wearing different clothes or using power ups. Once Kamek finally managed to clue him in, he's taken to calling Luigi "Green Mario" because he knows just how much Mario hates that.

Luigi's clothing choice of white overalls as a plumber had gotten him some playful ridicule from his relatives. He's taken it as a challenge though, with him keeping a log of all the jobs he's done without getting them dirty.

There was one incident where Luigi dyed his hair green. The twins have taken a blood oath to never bring it up again.

[themainspoon]

Ok, everybody humour me for a second. It's kinda nutty that despite everything Mario and Luigi are still cannonically two American Italian dudes from Brooklyn.

Like, in Yoshi's Island we learn that Mario and Luigi were delivered by stork (they were therefore also never conceived, and despite this somehow remain American with Italian heritage). Those storks were going over a magical dinosaur Island on their way to fucking real life Brooklyn NYC.

In the Warioland series we learn that in the Mario universe there are in fact societies reminiscent of our own, with regular human inhabitants. But Mario and Luigi aren't from those societies, they're from REAL LIFE BROOKLYN NYC.

Also, just for a second, I would like us all to consider the people of New Donk City. Remembering that Mario and Luigi represent what normal, regular humans from real life look like in the Mario artstyle, I want us all to seriously consider what sort of freakish 9ft tall slender people inhabit New Donk.

Every single thing you see either of them do is being done by some random dude you could encounter just walking around real life New York. Like, that's unhinged, the entire premise of Mario and Luigi as characters is just unbelievably wild, despite everything they're just two random ass men! The only thing that makes even a small ammount of sense about them is that they bailed on the real world to go live in the Mushroom Kingdom.

[jojo-schmo]

Since Mario Jumpman Mario makes a cameo in the audience during Kirby Superstar, does that mean that Mario lived in the New World?

That's right!! Mario and Kirby exist in the same universe.

That must mean- Mario Odyssey is the prequel to Forgotten Land CONFIRMED!!! The Downtown Grasslands were actually New Donk City this whole time!

Or what if the Kirby universe is the center of the entire Nintendo franchise and that's how so many artifacts from other games show up. That's why stuff like Mr. Saturn or the Triforce are buried in Great Cave Offensive!

Kirby is the ultimate evolution of every Nintendo universe. Heck- it must be the final stage of all universes!! ALL ROADS LEAD TO KIRBY!!! Our current society must also be on track to one day evolve into Dream Land! That means the chance that King Dedede is alive on our planet RIGHT NOW is low but not zero!!

[thepipeplaza]

In Donkey Kong Land, Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong use a zeppelin to travel from their island to Big Ape City, which is implied to be the location where Donkey Kong (1981) took place.

This would mean that Big Ape City is the same location as New Donk City from Super Mario Odyssey.

[spaceoddy]

POV: The year is 2028. You're in the theater watching the third Super Mario Bros. movie. New Donk City is in chaos; Mario and DK can't fight off Bowser's massive army alone. It's the all-is-lost moment. As a tidal wave of Goombas approaches, Mario and DK look at each other, resigned to their fate.

Suddenly, a golden star shoots across the sky and pierces one of Bowser's airships; it explodes instantly. "What was that?" DK (Seth Rogen) shouts. Mario (Chris Pratt) throws his first up, "Party time!"

Next, thunder roars, and a giant bolt of lightning lands right in the middle of the Goombas, causing many of them to pop. When the smoke clears, Pikachu is standing in the crater. Mario runs up to him. "Thought you weren't coming!" Mario says. Pikachu (Ryan Reynolds) smirks. "Peach made me an offer I couldn't refuse." [A fourth wall reference to some legal dispute between Nintendo and GameFreak that almost kept Pikachu out of the movie].

Samus somersaults into the frame and fires at some floating Shy Guys; she lands in a cool pose. "Superhero landing!" Pikachu cheers because you need to remember he is Ryan Reynolds.

Link jumps into the scene from behind Samus. He slashes at a dozen or so Dry Bones. Nothing happens until Link sheaths the Master Sword, and then they all crumble into a pile of bones.

The shooting star from earlier circles the group, and Kirby hops off. We get a slow shot of the heroes standing side by side. The Brawl theme plays as the citizens of New Donk City cheer with renewed hope. Bowser's army has regrouped and is now even larger. "Let's hurry this up, boys," Samus (Jennifer Lawrence) says. "I don't work for free."

"We should compare paychecks after this," Ryan Reynolds - I mean Pikachu says.

"Wait!" Everyone turns to Link (Tom Holland). "You guys are getting paid?"

The group exchanges awkward glances. "Talk later, smash now!" Mario says. "Let's-a-go!"

This movie makes 3 billion dollars.

[jeffgerstmann]

I would love to hear your vision of how a Donkey Kong heel turn would be like in 2024

he is an evil monster, he is hoarding all the bananas and the children of new donk city are getting massive leg cramps from the lack of potassium. only mario can save the children.

[lore-of-the-mushroom-kingdom]

Mario Is Missing Is Not Canon

So Mario Is Missing is not canon to the games for a few reasons.

The main reason is Mario Is Missing contradicts the current canon of the Mario games. So in the manual for Mario Is Missing it says the following. "Will the brave brothers from Brookyln permit this abominable snow plan?" This is the Mario is an Italian American Immigrant from Brookyln origin that was never stated in any confirmed canon game or manual. This is not canon to the games continuity and is only canon to the Movieverse and Supershowverse. In the games Mario is a native son of the Mushroom Kingdom and immigrated to Big City as some point.

Also, this game alongside other games like Hotel Mario is probably on the same level of canonicity as the Supershow. This is because Nintendo basically licensed the characters to Toolworks, while Nintendo's staff and even Miyamoto did not have any hand in it. Note that even games like Super Mario RPG: Legend Of The Seven Stars at least had input from Nintendo's staff like Shigeru Miyamoto. With Miyamoto saying it didn't make sense for Mario to be riding a horse and wielding a sword, but rather to be riding Yoshi and wielding a hammer. This would probably put Mario Is Missing on the same level as the Supershow canonicity wise, and the claim it's always the same Mario wouldn't apply to this game.

[squidhominid]

List of included Nintendo Alarmo alarms

Super Mario Odyssey

Chain Chomp at Fossil Falls

Meeting Peach in the Mushroom Kingdom

Spinning Athletics as Yoshi

Speaking with the Bubblaine Sphynx

Exploring Lake Lamode

Hammer Bros. on Mount Volbono

The New Donk City Festival

The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild

Awakening to Adventure

Bokoblin Battle

Stasis Trial

Searching for Korok Seeds

Great Fairy Fountain

Stone Talus Battle

Learning to Become the Wind

Pikmin 4

Collecting Treasure

Rushing the Bulborb!

Facing the Fiery Blowhog

Breaking through the Electric Gate

Saving the Drowning Pikmin

Protecting the Lumiknoll

Dancing under Groovy Long Legs

Splatoon 3

Clickbait by C-Side

Sandy Side Up by Front Roe

Aquasonic by H2Whoa

Slopping Spree by Chirpy Chips

Fins in the Air by Deep Cut

Salmon Run

Story Mode: the Final Battle

Ring Fit Adventure

Meadow Run, then Air Blast!

First Fit Battle!

Fierce Fight in the Treasury!

River Rowing on a Raft!

Final Battle against the Four Masters!

A Snowy, Soaring Valley!

Nighttime Battle Gym!

All games have a 'Shuffle Daily' option that picks a scene at random, and the entire list has a 'Shuffle Daily' option that picks a scene from any game at random.

[smallmariofindings]

Concept art from the Art of Super Mario Odyssey book, showing Peach shopping for clothes in New Donk City.

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[sublimealexaprincess]

Mayor Tulip

A description of the character and his role in super Mario Odyssey

Mayor Tulip is the mayor of the capital city of the metropolitan kingdom area which is located the city of New Donk

The capital is a much bigger city than new Donk if its neighboring city Tulip is a partner and friend of Pauline both being allied mayoresses

The capital of the tulip mayor is inspired by the capital of the united states warshigton D.C

Tulip fulfills the role of only mayor

During the events of the game Tulip appears along with Pauline in new donk when Mario arrives in town, Tulip was visiting at the time and that’s where the events take place she only happens as a supporting character in the adventure as one more Mario character he knows and that’s where you as a player know more about his story

Here the only thing that changes is that Mario has the option of visiting his capital as an extra area to visit before his showdown with Bowser at the end of the game.

Exploring its capital is where you know Tulip and what it hides

You discover that she is a mayor with powers and magic she is a witch and descends from a lineage of powerful witches and witches who founded the capital of the nickname "kingdom" that name the area where the two cities reside

And the mayor’s tragic past which relates to her family tree

The events of the game and the story happen without altering anything just including Tulip as character and his city

Being on the final stretch on the moon she only has one scene helping Mario with his battle gives him a few minutes advantage before he falls to the void and depths of the moon for his battle and then she guides him out through a projection of himself as a sphere of light being her only relevant but emotional participation towards the hero which she thanks de aver known in her Odyssey

That’s the whole story of the character then only spinoff games would come where. ✨

[itschrisboys]

did anyone say, SUPER MARIO HEADCANONS?

also i just noticed i have polls now

wario's real name is wallace. people started calling him wario as a joke after realizing how much he resembled mario. wallace was super annoyed at first, but now he's mildly amused by the whole thing.

likewise, waluigi's real name is michael. when wario first mentioned he had a younger twin, people started joking that his brother's name was waluigi. michael found it pretty funny from the get-go, and started leaning into the joke.

super crowns are used as a symbol of status in the mario universe. because of this, the royalty only appear human while wearing their crowns. peach is actually a toad, daisy is actually a piranha plant, and rosalina is actually a luma.

bowser and bowser junior are a subspecies of koopa known as a fire koopa. while rare, fire koopas aren't exclusively nobles/royalty, and vice versa.

bowser junior was conceived from a one night stand, and left on the castle doorstep in the middle of the night. a dna test confirmed he was bowser's kid, but they couldn't find his biological mother.

the koopalings aren't legally bowser's children, but he's basically adopted them anyway. most of them come from rough homes, and the others dont come from homes at all. bowser looked at these struggling kids, and his fatherly instincts kicked in and he essentially said "mine now"

the "stork" isn't actually how babies are conceived in the mushroom kingdom, it's just an adoption service.

mario and luigi were born in the mushroom kingdom. their (adoptive) parents (born in italy) took them to brooklyn after the shroob invasion, and they grew up not knowing about the mushroom kingdom. they only found out their origins upon coming to the mushroom kingdom years later, and being recognized by their old babysitter, toadsworth.

mario and luigi's birth parents were from new donk city.

mario's favorite food is spaghetti, and luigi teases him relentlessly for being an italian stereotype.

peach is actually closeted aroace. she's a very physically affectionate person (ie cheek kisses and hugs), and bakes cakes for her friends a lot. she didn't realize that that accidentally sent romantic signals to mario until much later, and has no idea how to clear things up without outing herself (she's not ready to come out yet) now that everyone seems to think they're an item.

peach almost ditching mario on the moon was due to the fact that she was panicking about potentially being outed, and therefore didn't realize he wasn't on the ship (she didn't find out she almost left mario there until later, and she profusely apologized when he told her)

bowser's parents died when he was really young (like, infant young), and he was raised by kammy and kamek. he refers to them as his parents sometimes.

likewise, peach was raised by toadsworth.

peach is actually the queen of the mushroom kingdom, but she likes the alliteration of "princess peach", so she uses that as her title.

rosalina still refers to herself as a princess because she hasn't finished grieving for her mother yet, and doesn't want to feel like she's replacing her.

unlike the other royalty, daisy's parents are alive and well, which is why she still has the title of princess.

kammy and kamek are in a long-term queerplatonic relationship.

mario doesn't start dating pauline until after peach eventually comes out of the closet.

luigi is crushing super hard on prince peasley, but he's too awkward to say anything, and peasley has some self esteem issues that lead him to believe that luigi is only fawning over him because he's the prince, so doesn't realize luigi has a crush. mario keeps trying to matchmake the two, and is super frustrated that none of his attempts are working, despite that fact that they're obviously into each other

wario and waluigi care about each other a lot, but that doesn't stop them from having some extreme sibling rivalry. they would absolutely beat the shit out of each other for the last cookie, then be chilling and watching tv together not 10 minutes later. the cain instinct is strong with these two.

not too long after the incident on the moon, daisy decides she's had enough of bowsers shit, and beats him up while still wearing a dress and high heels. bowser stops going after peach, but its not so much because he's scared of daisy so much as it is that he's incredibly impressed by her and wants to get on her good side because he may or may not have developed a crush.

bowser and daisy do eventually start dating.