#make ravi a main character in s8

[min-kit]

if Tim decides he wants to keep Eddie straight & give him a female love interest they really need to do better on selling us the woman & honestly i have the PERFECT idea for it.

and it starts with making Ravi a main character in season 8.

[buddiebeginz]

Considering how annoyed I get when I see comments about bucktommy endgame I can see why they’re combusting because that comment section is 90% Buddie 😂 when we flood a comment section we’re crazy and harassing people and will be punished by Tim for it but when they do it it’s just because BuckTommy deserve all the love. When we do it we’re “biased and showing we only watch the show for Buck and Eddie”(proven wrong considering like half the Buddie comments also include comments about other characters like Ravi and Henren) but when they are clearly only watching the show for a guest star with minimal screentime that’s perfectly fine.

100% nonie. I'm constantly amazed by their level of hypocrisy. Like they relish in calling us delusional. They say we're seeing something with Buddie that was never there and or will never happen. Yet many of them used to be Buddie shippers so they clearly saw something there. They've built this thing between Buck and T*mmy up to be something so much more serious than it's clear the show has ever intended it to be. No one on the show has even called T*mmy Buck's boyfriend at this point and they're sending stuff to Tim about how T*mmy is Buck's soulmate. But we're delusional for thinking that Eddie putting Buck in his will means something important. 😒

They also have the nerve to call us homophobic and fetishizers yet they're the ones who have harassed people (even journalists) for shipping Buddie or seeing Eddie as anything but straight. Not to mention so so many of the things I see them post is about sexualizing Buck and T*mmy's relationship. And there's nothing wrong with envisioning the sexual relationship between two fictional characters you love but without a doubt I know that whenever there is a post about Buck they'll come post on it and make it something sexual about B/T. They literally just commented the other day on a pic of the medal ceremony with Buck, Chris, and Eddie on what if T*mmy was under the table (giving Buck a bj I assume they meant). Yet we're fetishizing Buddie because we've seen the love that has developed between these two men and the family they've built together and we want to see them take that next step.

Oh and about them having a problem with us flooding the comments with support for Buddie at least most of that is actual individual people. Our fandom doesn't have to create burner accounts to pretend there's more support for our ship than there actual is because there is a ton of real support for Buddie including people that work on the show.

You're also right about us showing love for Henren and Ravi. I've seen tons of Buddie shippers talk about how we want Ravi to be a main character this season yet the B/T stans have said repeatedly that T*mmy should be a main, T*mmy deserves a begins episode, T*mmy should even be on the s8 poster. They seriously care about him more than any other character on the show.

[bucksboobs]

So, I have a doubt ( I am a straight women ,27 and Indian ) is it a crime that White man is attracted to white man in US bcoz I have seen a lot discourse that u only ship bucktommy bcoz they are two white man , So if they are both white they can't have feelings for each other , I am genuinely curious bcoz I don't know the dynamics in US or races in that country .

If you are uncomfortable to answer this I can understand

Thank you

and I just want to say I also really would like to Ravi to be main in S8 and rooting for Ravi begins and Tommy begins and Haters gonna hate no matter what the ethnicity /race/gender if that isn't your ship

Ok so if I understand this ask correctly you’re asking why people say “you only ship them because they’re two white men” as a negative for BuckTommy and the answer is essentially that due to racial dynamics in the US, Eddie is considered not “really” white because he’s Latino (more accurately he’s Mexican, Latino is a cultural group the same way Dravidian is, for example) and Latinos experience a lot of discrimination in the US. So the implication is supposed to be that someone is being racist for shipping Buck and Tommy over Buck and Eddie

See, on Tumblr, there’s some people that think you can’t just dislike a ship, it has to be proven as immoral for other people to like it at all, so they pick the opposing ship apart to “prove” it’s “problematic.” Hence why last week someone tried to lie about the only BuckTommy scene in the episode to try to say that Tommy responded to Buck’s attempt at connection by “bringing up Daddy kink out of the blue” (if you watch the scene, Buck says “I guess we both have daddy issues” and the flirting continues from there) or trying to say that Tommy calling Buck “Evan” is proof he doesn’t respect Buck/is just like Buck’s parents/etc or that calling him “kid” makes him a predator. (All real things I read in the tags of that post btw)

Of course what makes this funny to me is that I have actually been in a fandom where two men were shipped together primarily because they were white men in close proximity to one another, to the detriment of the canon relationship between the white man and the Latino lead: Teen Wolf. I am very aware of what happens when a barely-supported-by-canon ship between two white men takes over the fandom and starts pushing out fans of color and letting racism against the other characters run rampant. This is not that. People ship Buck and Tommy because they are dating.

[mazzystar24]

Hi 😁 Absolutely here to manifest buddie 🕯🕯🕯🕯

When I said parallel buck I didn't mean like a buck reborn thing, Ravi is after all his own character. Personally I see him more like the opposite to Buck, you know. Not making his mistake because he doesn't have those same hang ups, but still having a lot of links to Buck. I could see him being given similar plot beats but taking a different path. Frankly I can't believe they set up his history with cancer and didn't link that to the Buck/Daniel revelation. I was sure that was going to go somewhere. Of course I don't mean that he's solely there to be buck's shadow, but it was so weird how those two things didn't inter-connect (unless I missed something) perhaps in a similar way to Chim and Albert. 🤷‍��️

Anyway, the point is we need Ravi to become a main because we need fresh blood and a new character to explore. I have no doubt Ravi has his own messy backstory for us all to sink our teeth into.

YESSSS

The Daniel and Ravi storylines haunt me

Like the potential metaphors we could have? I’d DIEEEE

Like imagine buck having to save Ravi in some situation

Imagine Ravi bonding with Maddie or buck over the Buckley parents lore and cos he has knowledge of what the sick sibling would have felt like

someone proposed a combined Maddie and Ravi begins episode where we see flashbacks of both their lives and the parallels between Ravi and Daniel and UGH THAT WOULD DESTROY ME INTO A THOUSAND PIECES

Ooo and I once read a fic where Ravi himself had a saviour sibling but obviously he survived and omg it was so angsty and glorious

Also yes to that last part of your ask like they’ve not even scratched the surface of ravis character yet and already you can see how rich and full it could be like he has so much depth and he’s an icon already

Ravi main s8 or else we ride at dawn 🐎🤺🗡️

[pigeonxp]

hiii 5, 18, and 24 for the ask game!!

hellooooo!!!!!!

for number 5, (which side character would you want the show to bring back) i dont want to give the obvious answer of May bc i feel like they r definitely bringing her back at some point, so i think im gonna go with either Albert (insane that he wasnt at madney wedding) or, more unrealistically, id like to see a Bosko cameo! (not saying ravi bc i am still a firm believer in ravi main s8 💔)

number 18, (how many eps will gerrard be in?) my current guess is that hes gonna be captain for probably 4 ish episodes? like ik thats a STRETCH and he will prob be around for more but honestly idk i think ill just have to explode abc headquarters if we dont get my king bobby NASH 💜 back asap

number 24, (what minor detail/scene would you include?) this one is rly hard but ive always rly liked the little moments where buddie makes eye contact and it looks like theyre having a telepathic conversation lol i think that would eat but also i think i would add some little domestic henren family scenes bc i love them ❤️ (ALSO BOBBY BUCK FATHERISM SCENES)

[lover-of-mine]

Hi! This is long, but just some Inside Baseball-y theorizing/thoughts on LFJ... I don't have any insider info or anything lol but I know a bit about how the business side of the industry works.

So, he would have been brought back as either a recurring guest star or a recurring co-star (co-stars are usually minor characters who basically serve to push other characters to where they need to be, which is probably what he was in S2. Guest stars have a bigger role and are usually a little more central to the story they're being used in). The distinction is a little fluid and can be up for negotiation by your agent (guest stars get paid a higher rate), but I think Tommy lands pretty solidly into recurring guest category for S7, so that's my guess as to what he was contracted as. (The step above that but before main cast is series regular, which is where Karen and Ravi etc fall)

From what we now know, his original arc was only supposed to be 4 episodes, and he was there for Eddie. Then Natalia's actress became unavailable (I think she was doing a play?) and their original plan sort of fell apart, because if Eddie had his gay awakening in 704 and Buck was single (since Natalia wouldn't be there) the rest of whatever they had planned for the season would stop making sense... hence the switch, and imo you can see some traces of the original plan in the version that eventually made it to air.

And then they were renewed for S8-9, which realistically would have been very much up in the air at the time the season was originally being written. They'd just come off the strikes, they were on a new network, they had a shortened season, they were planning a BIG swing by bringing at least one of their long-term characters out of the closet, so I don't think it's a coincidence that the renewal news came in the wake of those eps airing. I think the network was probably waiting to see how they'd do in the ratings once that happened before they decided how to move forward.

So once they were renewed, they decided to slow down the pace of whatever story they had planned since they now had more or less guaranteed time to do it. The back half of S7 was a hasty rewrite and suffered for it – I think that's been made obvious in interviews and just from what you see on-screen lmao

LFJ was probably asked back for a handful of 7B scenes because of the rewrites – most of his "presence" was done without him actually needing to be on-screen. A couple references to him here and there and one or two scenes in an episode, and that was kind of all they needed story-wise to keep Buck busy while Eddie started down his spiral. I don't think his "popularity" or "fanbase" or whatever had much at all to do with him staying longer. BIG fandom pushes can sometimes sway things, but I think people generally overestimate their influence on these kinds of decisions. It ultimately comes down to money and viewership and story needs, and it made sense for him to stay longer than expected, so he stayed.

When it stops making story or business sense to keep him, he'll be gone, which might have already happened if they think he's caused more trouble than he's worth. There's also the possibility that he'll be promoted to a main on SWAT or get booked for something else and become unavailable just like Natalia's actress did. That happens super frequently.

Or maybe not! If they have a plan for the wrap-up of that storyline that requires him to be physically present, or even if they want to keep him around off and on all next season, then he'll probably be back for a couple episodes, but they're definitely not going to be writing full independent storylines for him. If you pay attention, he (and Buck!) stopped being the focus of any of the plotlines as soon as the bulk of that story was resolved (Buck realizing he's bi and coming out to the rest of the team). Whatever their plan, his function is/was to push Buck to where he needs to be for whatever's next in his story, because Buck is the one who's part of the main cast. He's the one who gets storylines written about him.

I agree with a lot of this, really. I say his approval made him stay, but I kinda mean in the sense that Buck being bi was well received and unlike other love interests, he was well received, so keeping him in the background wasn't creating problems as they set up whatever it was they wanted to do with season 8 using the remainder of s7 after the renewal. I don't think his purpose on the narrative is completely done yet, so I do think he could be back to further Buck in whatever way they need him to, because like you said, he exists to push Buck somewhere and they stopped using Buck on his own after he came out and that's definitely not something that's gonna transfer into s8, so whatever plan they have for Buck is probably going to use him. I think the question is if the chaos that's been going on lately makes it worth it to drag out his presence or if they'll choose to get over with it quickly because while he still makes sense narratively, he might be stopping making sense from a business perspective. But we don't know, this is all speculation at this point. There's a chance he's already written off and there's a chance they are planning on keeping him as a presence for longer. We'll have to wait and see I guess. But this is a very detailed view, thank you for sharing it.

[teamcyrusbitch]

Tommy for main S8

Um no. The capacity in which he appears now is fine and shouldn’t change. Karen and Ravi are right there and have been for years. If anyone deserves more of a character expansion and screentime it’s not the white man who came 6 episodes ago. We already have a packed cast and if they’re going to make series regulars it deserves to be the characters who have already been here and who give more meaningful diversity and representation. The fact that people keep campaigning for a white man to be a lead after being here 5 minutes over the other fans who have been yelling for Hen and Ravi to get the development they deserve further proves my point. How many black lesbians do we ever see on tv? Or an Indian firefighter who’s fully fleshed out on tv? Henren is always gonna be the priority to me. Along with Ravi for anyone getting promoted

[myimaginarywonderland]

I will never not be upset that 911 had the perfect opportunity to make Ravi a main and introduce a storyline that would justify Bobby becoming a background character and never took it.

They should have had Bobby decide after the cruise ship disaster that he doesn't want to be Captain anymore because he wants to spend time with his family. They should have had Bathena discuss. Bobby could have either decide to go into early retirement or he could have chosen a more desk based job (again an incredible opportunity to show the different sides of firefighting) which would also justify his lack of screen time (I heard Peter was thinking about how long he could still act as Bobby because of how physically demanding some scenes can be.)

They could have introduced the concept of Bobby retiring early on with this season essentially being last as his captain and therefore giving the opportunity to shake up the team dynamics.

With Bobby gone we could have had S8 show everyone try out as Captain and Ravi filling in as a main would have made perfect sense because they would be down a firefighter which would mean Ravi is permanently with the A-Shift.

It would have been such an easy way to introduce Ravi and to bring up the possibility of a new Captain, the show how the dynamics would have to adapt and change without breaking all logical and probably legal laws to get Gerard back.

It would have been an incredibly powerful way to show that even without Bobby the team has already become so used to working with each other that they make it work. That they don't need an outsider, that someone like Hen or Buck could take over as Captain because they are so well established and listen to each other.

This could have been a perfect opportunities and 911 missed the mark by a mile to not only offer us the possibility of one character potentially taking on a new role but also smoothly just establishing Ravi as a future main character.

[chevelleneech]

This has been the most confusing part of all the drama for me. Buck was technically not written as queer at all. He moved from woman to woman to woman in early season one, fell in love with a woman toward the middle and end, then had three serious relationships with women between seasons two and six.

Buck wasn’t written as questioning his sexuality at any point before 7x04 even, so him being bisexual technically came out of nowhere. Does it work for the character? Yes, but from late 2018 to early 2024, he was assumed to be straight, except to fans who are mainly Buddie shippers. So where did all the high horses come from?

How did people see this years-long fan theory based almost exclusively on the fact that people ship Buck with Eddie, become canon, then decide any other part of the theory coming true would be bad writing or giving into fan service? As if Buck being bi isn’t also fan service? It just makes no sense, and is proof of the fact that people who feel this way were never actively hoping for a queer relationship for Buck or Eddie.

Those fans wanted a gay man they could lust over. Michael and David are Black and “old”, and weren’t really leads, so they were never going to be worthy of attention. But Buck and Eddie? They fit all the bills of what fandom tends to thirst over, so shipping them and hoping they would kiss on screen to satiate that craving was great so long as it was just fan desire. Buck being canonically bi though? That set their little hearts aflame. He canonically enjoys kissing men, so every other part of previous headcanons involving him no longer matter.

Reason being, the only way to get Buddie together is by breaking BT up, and having at least a little bit of story in between. That bit of story however, runs the risk of us seeing Buck with a woman again, and those fans would rather choke, lol. They cannot stomach the idea of Buck dating a woman again, because they’re misogynists at their core, so they’re clinging to the only “thirst worthy�� queer man antics they can get. Even if it’s undeveloped and poorly executed.

As well, even if Buck and Eddie got together immediately after BT split, no women in the interim, most of their shippers are too deep in the BT rabbit hole, having shown their absolute asses, to apologize. They’ll seethe in silence and continue watching the show, but never admit they only jumped ship because they wanted to see Buck or Eddie kiss men, and not watch an actual relationship develop. Others will double down on the lie that Tommy was a better character, and claim the show didn’t give him a chance to grow.

The craziest part of all though, is the show is going to have to pick a side come s8. Dragging the potential of Buddie out any further than 8a will be obvious ship baiting, but keeping Tommy will be flat out bad writing. It’s clear as day he is only still around because the show wants bi!Buck without committing to actually talking about him being bi, and I can’t see that working for long. They’ll have to either sacrifice beloved characters (Karen, Chris, Ravi, Josh) to make room for Tommy, or keep BT as a couple on the sidelines, which would inevitably push Buck out as a main. Which won’t work.

Angela, Peter, and Oliver are the core trio of the series. JLH is third billed because of her name and status, but Buck is arguably the most liked character. Sidelining him just to keep a guest star (potentially recurring in s8) would be a show killer.

"eddie isn't queer/gay," you say. "he is straight in canon, so him being gay is just a head canon. it's ok for others to think of him as straight because that's what he is."

let's ignore for a second the fact that eddie has never ever ever ever not even once, said in canon that he is a heterosexual very straight guy. seriously!!! he has never once said it!!! if i am "assuming" he's gay then you are also "assuming" he is straight even though he has never once said it!!

how do you think we got bi buck as canon? like i am serious right now, answer the question. how do you think we go bi buck canon? evan buckley was never conceived to be a bisexual man at the beginning of 911. the reason we have evan buckley as a canonically bisexual character today is because us, queer fans of 911, interpreted him and headcanoned him as bisexual. i would go even further and say that it was us, BUDDIE FANS, who interpreted him and headcanoned him as bi. even before the writers were explicitly writing him as bisexual. we read his actions and his story and his identity and said: "this is a bi character!" and the writers looked back and realized that it made sense! and so they started writing him explicitly and canonically as bi.

was it wrong of us to headcanon a character as bisexual then? like for all intents and purposes we were reading a "straight" character as bi. were we doing something wrong? how come you are not complaining/chastising us/shaming us for how we took evan buckley, an otherwise straight character, and saw him as bi? is it because it now serves a purpose to you that he is bi?

also, taking characters that aren't confirmed queer and reading them as queer is what the queer community, and specifically the queer fandom community, has been doing for DECADES. look up the history of queer coding, i am begging you. it has been through the means of queer coding and the perseverance of people that are engaged in it that actual queer representation in media has increased. and let me tell you right now, eddie diaz is, undoubtedly and undeniably, one of the most queer coded characters there is. whether you think this queer coding is conscious by the writers or not. eddie diaz is queer coded.

and i want everyone who says things like "eddie diaz is not a queer character. he is straight in canon. it's wrong to assume a character is queer without the character saying so" to know that this is exactly what straight and homophobic people say. you are using the SAME rhetoric that has been used to shame queer fans for decades for seeing themselves and their experiences in fictional characters of all types. in fact, us, queer fans (and again BUDDIE FANS), were told so many times by straight fans that we were wrong for reading buck as bisexual. and where are we now? where did reading buck as bi take us? oh yeah, to having bi buck in canon.

so please just stop with the "eddie isn't queer in canon" comments. if you don't want to interpret eddie as queer then that is your prerogative. i will be judging why that is, for sure, but it is your right. but be honest about it. it has nothing to do with whether or not he is straight (which hasn't been said) or queer coded (which he so obviously is seeing as so many of us can very easily read him as queer). it's a personal preference and you're not engaging with canon better because of it.

[mazzystar24]

Hi, a 'BT' here! (Although I also happily ship buddie too because multishipping is so valid!) I come in peace and just looking for some discourse if that's okay? I saw the ask in regard to apparently BTs are saying that all the focus on rg means he's leaving? I haven't seen anyone say that on either side so a strange one huh!

But it was more your comments in terms of pushing for Tommy to replace Eddie as lead when Ravi is right there and I just wanna say I agree! And I have seen many bucktommy shippers including myself pushing for Ravi to be main cast. He absolutely should be and deserves it and is an absolute darling angel and I love what he brings to the whole dynamic!

My biggest hope for Tommy is for his to be recurring much like Karen! Speaking of, there's another character I'd love to be main cast and who I think is ahead of the queue in front of Tommy to be main cast. Heck I'd love if all of them got to be main cast but, as much as I love bucktommy, I definitely can see there's an order to who should be main cast and don't want any 'queue jumping'

One other thing I want to out out there as food for thought, is that on both sides I see a lot of discourse thrown out through anonymous asks of 'oh the bts are saying this' or 'the buddies said this ridiculous thing!' And something I would love both sides to seriously consider is... did they really? Or are there just a few people out there who feed on the chaos that it all brings and will send out anon asks that they know will increase this 'fandom war'and pretend they are kn the other side when doing so just to get a reaction and give ammunition to 'their' side to make it seem like one side is delusional and the other side isn't?

Tldr I just wish we all got along and stopped taking messages intended to stir up hate as gospel.

Peace and love

Glad you agree on the Ravi/ main thing front!

As you know I want tommy out already so no recurring hopes from me sorry 😔💔 ngl at first I was like hmm it can be interesting and I’m not opposed to exploring bt and their potential dynamic and maybe they can redeem him and make him likeable it’d be perfect (like my comparison was if they wrote him like Hannah from bones) but like buddie endgame but as eps went on both he and a section of the fandom became so insufferable to me that I’m like I don’t care about the potential juicy storylines I just want this man off my screen - but it’s totally cool if you like him and ship them it’s just not my cup of tea

For the other part I totally get what you mean and that may be the case like I totally agree that that is possible but I hear like so many things that happen in the bt fandom secondhand cos I’ve got so many of the toxic/annoying ones blocked (my block list is a mile long genuinely) and so many have me blocked too but usually stuff that my anons mention will be talked abt by more people in the fandom (like this is) or like there have been times where if I ask my anons for elaboration links ss etc and they are able to do so

That’s why half the time when I reply it’s more so like “damn didn’t know that if that is the case then xyz” you know? Or if I saw something I’ll mention it and be like oh yeah I saw xyz and this is my opinion on it or answer

Also like I’ve first hand seen things that are like 10x worse or more delusional than the “rg must be leaving and s8 lfj main” thing like no lie some of this stuff makes that seem tame in comparison so it’s like the chances they’ve said this are like HIGH

Genuinely I agree with you on that last point I do wish that this fandom was how it used to be and more peaceful but certain things I follow this kinda mental rule I’ve always had which is that I won’t respect a disrespectful opinion

Like from the very start of the discourse I’ve been very oh let ppl ship what they want and enjoy their fandom space and from the start I’ve encouraged proper tagging to help people do that and like even if you’re fully delusional abt your ship I fully respect that (not saying YOU are but I’m saying like let’s say one side is like yesss they are getting married in s8 and having a baby on the first episode I would genuinely just mentally be like woah that’s a bit delulu but love that for you and move on)

My only issue really has been where people from the bt fandom (not saying they are the only ones who do this but I’m saying personally speaking it’s what I see and what I experience also not saying it’s all the bt fans and I do try to say that as much as possible) being disrespectful whether this be through being racist, being ableist or rude to the buddie fans just to boost their ship

Like I’m so not against hating stuff like seriously idc hate whatever you want rant about it and make twenty posts and make so many jokes but when you’re being disrespectful or when it crosses certain bounds it’s like you’re a piece of shit

Anyways I got carried away but thanks for being so nice and respectful in your ask 🫶

[azaharinflames]

1. Buck was supposed to come out in Season 4 - or, to say it with better words, Bi Buck was something that was thrown around first a few seasons ago. It got shot down, so it didn’t happen until Season 7. Also, Season 4 is a guess from the fandom. As far as I am aware, it hasn’t been directly confirmed. Please correct me if I’m wrong. Eddie has never been brought in when discussing that topic, and this is very important to note. Not once did Oliver say Bi Buck was considered with Buddie. Not once we’ve been told Eddie was supposed to come out but it didn’t happen. Chances are that if we had had Buck coming out in Season 4, his LI wouldn’t have been Eddie. Hell, Albert and even Ravi had more chances.

2. So. Let’s look at it from an actual unbiased perspective. Season 7: 10 eps. 7 mains. From those 10 eps, 3 were dedicated to the main emergency. 1 fully dedicated to Bobby. Another episode dedicated to the wedding of another main couple. And 9-10 very Bathena heavy and the season finale. We are left with 3 episodes. And 2 of them had a big spotlight on Buck, and BuckTommy. And even when we are still at the beginning stages of the relationship, that is not for lack of trying or attention, but rather due to the extraordinary circumstances of Season 7. As it is, Tim made an active effort to include Lou/Tommy in eps where, frankly, he didn’t need to be in (709,710,801). Why include him? Because they want BuckTommy to work out, and before they can get their BT focus ep(s) post final and first emergency (for S7 and s8 respectively), they want to remind the GA that they are a couple, and they’re going strong.

3. Yes, Tommy calls him Evan for a reason! Thank you so much for bringing that up. You see, in romcoms it’s actually pretty common to have the LI use a special name for the other side of the couple. In this case, it is special that Tommy calls him Evan. It is intentional in a positive way, because it means Tommy sees Buck for who he is as a whole, and not just as the persona he becomes when he’s Buck out there. It’s important to remember he’s still Evan, still the person he was before the 118. His partner should see all sides of him and love him for all of them. Tommy calling him Evan is a first sign of that, just like Maddie is the one to call Chimney, Howie. And look where they are now.

(also for the thousandth time - we have literally seen Buck correcting people when they’ve called him Evan and not Buck, and we also have seen him not do so. The use of Evan is not as dramatic as some people make it to be, and Buck is, also, a grown ass man. If he didn’t like his partner calling him Evan, he would’ve said. He has a voice and we’ve seen him use it plenty)

4. Eddie’s arc this season is not and should be not about his sexuality. Period. That man is a mess and needs to work on himself long and hard before he even contemplates dating again. His self improvement is the first thing he has to work on. The second, and this is not up for debate, is getting his son back. Point blank period. And if you think Buddie should be above that, then I’m sorry, but you don’t give a shit about the characters. You just want to see two men kissing for the sake of your imagination.

5. Oliver was doing interviews pre 704, but do you know something they had in common that RG’s simply don’t have?? Constant vague references to Buck in this upcoming season that led a lot of people (including me) to theorize Buck coming out was actually a possibility. Ryan is either speaking about Eddie in the same way he’s been doing since S7, or not even speaking a whole lot about it. They’re actors, they do promo. But the vibes of the interview are completely different.

6. And for my closing statement: Ryan. has. said. multiple. times. Eddie’s. straight. Ffs. You wanna focus on his interviews so much? Focus on that. Because for him to blatantly state that about his character, he has to have had permission from above. This is not preparing you for a gotcha: this is him asking you to fucking drop it, because Eddie is straight.

Sorry queso for the rant, but I do feel better 🫡

The card reader has a blue checkmark now... and she's baiting people like crazy.

[chevelleneech]

To be honest (although I am biased because I am pessimistic regarding Tim at the moment) I think BT could work solely because Tim doesn’t have to commit to it. Their shippers have already decided they’re fine with whatever, and even though reception has been relatively positive or neutral, not having Buck be “showy” as a bisexual man allows them to claim kudos for representation while not alienating any more viewers.

Committing to Buddie would require presenting ignorant audiences with another queer lead, and dealing with more backlash even if minimal. Tommy is a safe choice, and all they’d have to do is give them small dinner scenes, a few helicopter rescues, and members of the 118 telling Buck he finally seems happy or settled or what have you.

The thing is though, they’ll have to figure out how to balance Buddie and BT come s8 if Tommy is going to be around longterm. Because right now, Buck and Eddie are still paralleling canon couples, still choosing each other, and Buck is still in Eddie’s will. They need to put their foot down either way, but if they’re not going to and still want to play up Buddie because it is objectively a popular well loved pairing, they need to find a way to make Tommy as likable and interesting. Which they failed to do this season, and pulling focus for him in s8 will go over like a lead balloon of he gets main character status before Ravi or Karen.

I genuinely do not know how they are going to do 9-1-1 without buddie being romantically canon.

because it’s already canon that they are each others person, other then chris, buck and eddie always put each other first. and from the stills it is clear that buck drops everything when he is with tommy to help eddie.

tommy is definitely going to break up with buck for this reason, which i don’t blame him because who wants to be in a relationship where your partner is constantly putting someone else first?

no relationship they ever have is ever going to work out because of this, so i genuinely do not see how buddie could not be canon based on how they’ve written their entire relationship up until now