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As someone who uses they/them pronouns;
You are allowed to be uncomfortable when people use They/them pronouns to talk about you
I see a lot of weird transphobic and usually Terf-y shit around shaming ppl who get uncomfortable when someone uses they/them to talk about them
It's not wrong and shameful to not like it
It's the same and me being uncomfortable with She/her
Or someone being uncomfortable with he/him
Or any other pronouns that might make some one uncomfortable to be called
It's okay to not like being called they/them
#i usually see this used against transwomen specifically#but i also have a lot of bigender friends or trans men friends who dont like they either#and everyone i know who isnt comfortable with they feels the need to justify it because one too many ppl made them feel like a bad person#the unholy system#transgender#trans#transfem#transmasc#nonbinary#pronouns
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much like "go back to 4chan", telling a transfem to go back to reddit doesn't take much brain power to connect with specific negative aspects, literally, if you look up memes about reddit (even those that come from within it) you'll get: "Neckbeard" "fat greasy covered in cheeto dust" "basement dwelling" "reddit moderator" "discord kitten" the stereotype is clear: an ugly fat unshaven man who gets his kicks from enforcing ridiculous rules onto other people who were just minding their business, and is usually thought that they are grooming kids on the side when not enforcing reddits rules, who doesn't go "touch grass".
is it pure coincidence that all of these are things that transfems are accused of even if through abstractions?
"well I actually get a lot of laid, so i know my transfem friends don't hold the same opinions as you." "transmisogyny isn't real, you're just overreacting / trying to control what the other queers think!" "i heard she is a deviant and has skeletons in her discord dms!".
if i say "maybe" , i will be complicit in giving anyone saying this any kind of plausible deniability, its not a coincidence that reddit was chosen now that there is a little more push back about implying a white transfem (even if they're actually not white, but just talk white enough (eg. too uppity about transmisogyny, because only privilged white women care about that!))* comes from 4chan, and since reddit at least has some lgbtq communities, its not as bad if you** are told to go back to it!
because a good majority of people already hold the base idea that reddit is bad generally, so in the most charitable version of it, you are being told you are annoying and infighting, and making a problem out of nothing.
but the intended position of this rebrand of go-back-to-4chan-ism ? it doesn't exist it's just your delusional and hysterical white mind, trying to be marginalized in lieu of not being actually oppressed for anything, but it does, and it implies a lot of transmisogynistic shit, unto you, and if you try to explain this to anyone, they will have their already preconceived bias that you are just making shit up, for whatever reason they want, reinforced. * I am a mexican transfem living in mexico, people have assumed i am white because i have knowledge of such fringe and USA-only thoughts such as transmisgyny, something i surely NEVER live through! and would never thought of using to refer to my experiences, only white privileged people do that. **when referring to "you" i am not talking about roxanne, or any particular individual, its simply shorthand for any trans woman reading this post.
“go back to reddit” is another subtle way that transmascs use to degender transfems with backbones; a trans woman is told to “go back to reddit” much in the way that a cis woman is told to get “back in the kitchen” (as in, it is a demand for a woman to conform to a gendered ideal rather than a legitimate belief of where she actually belongs) but beyond just that what is reddit supposed to rhetorically represent here? a place where loser men talk about men’s rights activism. “go back to reddit” is basically a socially acceptable way to say “shut the fuck up you neckbeard shut in” to trans girls discussing transfeminism.
#rb#aa:long post#this got me fired up so bad#as someone who had the misfortune to use reddit as and out trans woman#they don't like us there either!!#its just like tumblr with the “evil and divise transwomen”#but theres enough queers there that the plausible deniability of telling someone to go back to it.#because obviously tumblr is the website where no-one is ever annoying about anything#or even god forbid it#mean!#well except when its tmes they should always bring out how they were called something mean once and thus transmisogyny isnt real#or how that makes transandrodorkism a real and not made up thing to rally behind#or something ridiculous#were all enlightened dykefaggots and transexuals here don't you get it? you fucking tranny? go back to your basement#so we can stop thinking about you#the other tgirls fighting tooth and nail are my bulwark against it all#deeply appreciate you willing to actually have these conversations even if it gets you shitheads in anons.#transmisogyny#queerest site on the planet my ass
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So I'm going to ask an honest question here and ask you please explain in layman's terms. Every trans person I know irl has no concept of the transandrophobia discourse but every time I see more of it online I'm...unsettled, and it takes a lot to power through all the terminology.
I initially was really receptive to transandrophobia because the rationale behind being against it sounded stupid and akin to label discourse in the queer community. I saw "being a man is not an axis of oppression therefore you don't get your Own Word" and thought that was pedantic nonsense, that language doesn't need to adhere to that rule, and that it's helpful to have a term designated towards transmasculine experiences so people can find those experiences easier. Not that trans women's experiences aren't also beneficial! But that, well, obviously no matter how similar the experience birds of a feather and that sense of comfort of sharing identity still matters. This is true for other issues of identity too, I find, weather that's a good thing or a bad thing idk, but it is human.
The thing is I follow a lot of transwomen and have been seeing some alarms being raised about the community being formed around this word. You blocked one of the most egregious offenders so I trust you (which is why I'm asking sorry) I've seen a lot of misogyny and essentialism from people using the term "transandrophobia" and more egregiously "transmisandry." Idk your opinion on the latter term (I haven't scrolled down far enough on your blog, sorry if you talked about this before) but to me it's unconscionable. I was taught that transandrophobia existed as a term specifically NOT to use that term, that elevating misandry to a legitimate issue was dangerous for obvious reasons and it was one of the reasons why I was so supportive of transandrophobia. To me, it seemed like an awareness that misogyny was the prevailing issue behind all issues of gender oppression, but when I actually look at the tag I...get uncomfortable.
Blogs I follow have repeatedly been upset at misogyny from this community, and have been using the term "transandrobro" to describe behavior they find akin to cis MRAs. I've truly seen horrible things with hundreds, sometimes thousands of notes to it that do, unfortunately, feel like women are being blamed for the plight of trans men. I've seen cis people say they were originally on MRA reddits and then came to tumblr to "confront the misandry directly" only to wholeheartedly adopt transandrophobia into their worldview. It's hard because I KNOW I shouldn't judge a community based on a few crazies but it truly does feel sometimes like "transandrophobia" gives misogynists a venue to air their woman-hating to an eager audience, kinda like how "Karen" has been co-opted beyond the og meaning of being for racist white woman to any woman being mildly rude.
So like, here it is: can transandrophobia exist without being co-opted by misogynists? Is there a threshold of proliferation for misogynists destroying this word until a new one needs to be made? Or will every word trying to identify the transmasculine experience be inevitably co-opted by misogynists because misogynists are just that powerful, so people should double down harder on the word and work to push misogynists out?
(Also am I going crazy, or did this word a year ago used to have a WAY better community than the one I see nowadays. Back then I could find your blog and really compassionate people easily, and now it's just...bad.)
It is a little hard to understand some of this post but I will do my best to answer what I think is being asked.
To put simply, I think the reason why it was better a year or two ago is because the majority of the people who were actually trying to further the conversation and not just circle jerk in the echo chamber got chased off. Transandrophobia, anti-transmasculinity, transandromisia, transmascphobia... the guys who coined these are largely either not posting at all anymore or post far far less than they used to. They were harassed and the constant exposure to transphobia made them shut down their blogs for their own mental health. Not all of them, but a lot of the so-called "big names" had this happen.
Even I stopped posting for a while and shuttered the doors for a bit outside of a long queue of dog photos because of how much it was affecting my mental health.
In their place remain people who are not committed to the same conversation. Perhaps they are younger, or less familiar with the building blocks of theory that really should be required reading, or are still stuck in their "everything sucks and it's YOUR fault" phase. Maybe they do come from different places, like 4chan or reddit, which are less prone to this sort of discussion. A lot of the original crowd had been on tumblr long enough to remember when we could still edit posts, and I keep seeing people who would have been in elementary school at that time posting to the tag nowadays.
I was discussing this problem on discord with a small group of friends and one of them- a trans fem- called it second wave transandrophobia discourse as a bitter joke. I think she is more right than wrong, regardless.
I'm not sure who you believe I've blocked- in general I don't air out who I block on this blog because at nearly 12k followers there are too many people who would love to dogpile someone for the sin of disagreeing with me and I do my best to prevent that. I don't want anyone to be harassed, after all. There's a lot of assumptions that have been made about my block and follow behavior that vary from "hilarious but untrue" to "outright offensive slander".
People are people, and some people are shitheads. Trans mascs and people who want to support trans mascs are not exempt from that. I say this all the time- Kayne West is objectively a shitty person but his existence doesn't prove the concept of antiblackness to be a myth. Caitlyn Jenner is objectively a shitty person but her existence doesn't prove the concept of transmisogyny to be a myth. So why do shitty trans mascs prove our own theory to be dangerous or nonexistent? Why hold us to a higher standard than any other marginalized group?
I could ask you the same question- there are posts on here with hundreds, sometimes thousands, of notes made by trans fems and cis women who blame their problems with transmisogyny on trans mascs. There are people coming from reddit, Twitter, 4chan who are being actively transphobic and misogynistic and claiming they're doing it for the good of transfeminism. There are posts filled with misogyny and bioessentialism and gender essentialism and even interphobia and racism and transphobia being left completely unchecked. Do you think it would be acceptable for me to ask if that means transmisogyny theory should be abandoned or if we should just accept that it will draw people with bad intentions?
Or do you think the better answer is to focus instead on finding those with a good head on their shoulders, and making sure it's them who has their voice heard? Do you think we should maybe not judge entire demographics because there exists some shitty people who claim the same identity?
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ik there's a lot of examples of why transandrophobia is "valid/real" and whatever. but I think one that stands out to me is when people make comments like "men shouldn't rest or feel safe until menstruation products are free/men have 0 say in any laws surrounding uteruses/men can't ever know what it's like to be a *insert traumatic experience commonly happening to young girls*" and stuff of the like. just conversations that ignore a large portion of the tmen/masc communities existence (and probably some intersex folk too yh?? and enbies who are like man-aligned or js like. yeah transandrophobia effects a lot of ppl) and experiences and I'm like. so what word do I use to describe this? "just use transphobia" what if I want a word to describe my unique experiences for once that isn't an incredibly broad one for the whole community?? Maybe I want one that quickly describes this unique forgeting tmen exist completely js so you can angrily yell at men without repercussions.
what if I'm sick of yelling "transphobia!" just to be told "oh... no I'm talking about CIS men" as if I'm not actually a man, that cis men are more man than I will ever be and like this is a good thing. or being told I'm being hostile and are proof testosterone makes you evil. what do I call it then. you can't separate the man from trans, I'm a TRANS. MAN. and I deserve a word to describe the things I've experienced just like transfems and transwomen and nonbinary people without being told I'm "speaking over anyone"
idk, food for thought maybe infighting and attacking your own community isn't the way forward. maybe hating men, trans or not, will never be the liberating progressive feminist movement you think it is. maybe just maybe hate is not something you're immune to just because you're hated. maybe we all need to calm the fuck down and revaluate some shit and process our own bigotry /nay
this is a great ask, thanks for taking the time to send this, i appreciate you for telling your story and giving feedback. this is the exact reason i made a post a few days ago about how we have to stop holding back on having genuine conversations about queer experiences and the diversity and struggles transness bring. no trans person has it easy. none. we all suffer because cisheteronormative patriarchy hates the concept of transness. it hates trans men and mascs too
just conversations that ignore a large portion of the tmen/masc communities existence (and probably some intersex folk too yh?? and enbies who are like man-aligned or js like. yeah transandrophobia effects a lot of ppl) and experiences and I'm like. so what word do I use to describe this? "just use transphobia" what if I want a word to describe my unique experiences for once that isn't an incredibly broad one for the whole community?? Maybe I want one that quickly describes this unique forgeting tmen exist completely js so you can angrily yell at men without repercussions.
This entire line of thinking has been so pointlessly rude for no reason this entire time. This is legitimately one of the dumbest, pettiest things I have ever seen in my life and I'm saying it like it is: trans women and transfems do not own the concept of having a specific kind of oppression when it comes to transness. Whether or not you want to accept that trans men are also oppressed under patriarchy isn't our business. But it's the truth. And getting upset because transmascs and men wanted to coin "transandrophobia," what exactly is that solving? Genuinely how is that talking over trans women.
what if I'm sick of yelling "transphobia!" just to be told "oh... no I'm talking about CIS men" as if I'm not actually a man, that cis men are more man than I will ever be and like this is a good thing. or being told I'm being hostile and are proof testosterone makes you evil. what do I call it then. you can't separate the man from trans, I'm a TRANS. MAN. and I deserve a word to describe the things I've experienced just like transfems and transwomen and nonbinary people without being told I'm "speaking over anyone"
Absolutely, you and every other transmasc and trans man and related person deserve to be able to discuss your struggles and experiences. Let's have an honest conversation about it for once. Creating a term, and thus a space and forum where people can go to to have a conversation, share experiences and identify with one another means that there is now a dedicated space to having that conversation. That space is not built directly on top of transfem and trans woman spaces. It is built beside it, laterally. This means that if people want to talk about the specific forms of transphobia trans men, transmascs, and some intersex, nonbinary, genderqueer, genderfluid, bigender, agender and other queer people, there is a specific space to do it, reducing the amount of people who are in specifically transfeminine spaces talking about struggles that are not the same.
Having different terms is a very good thing because it means that people who share the same experiences can come together. This means that trans men and mascs now have a place to talk that lowers the chances of them accidentally or even intentally talking over trans women and transfems. This has never been a bad thing. It's a good thing. If transfems and women get to make specific spaces for ourselves, so are transmascs and trans men. They don't have to "just use transphobia". What they're experiencing is unique to them and you don't have the right to tell them what they are and are not experiencing.
If you as a trans woman or transfem do not want to hear about how transmascs and trans men have it, please feel free to go to spaces that are focused around transfems and trans women where you can talk about the similar experiences you have. Don't take our space away from us just because you don't want to listen, though. Trans men still deserve to be able to talk. You don't have to shut up trans men in order for trans women to be heard.
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One of our main viewpoints is the fact that women who are “inadequately feminine” still are and always will be women because the way you dress or behave does not change the fact that you are a woman. There is no such thing as being a woman “incorrectly,” you either are one or you are not. No amount of surgeries or clothes or “masculine” hobbies will change that. A butch lesbian who works as a mechanic is just as much of a woman as a feminine straight woman who works at a clothing store because a woman is not something we measure with levels or percentages or tiers, it’s a yes or no question.
Conservatives are the people who hate nonconformity, and will try to push people back into the boxes that we are forced into by society.
I don’t know how you could get this so incredibly wrong when some of the main points in radical feminism are about criticizing various forms of femininity, like makeup, high heels, and manicures, due to the ways they negatively impact women. Like, we are so well known for this stuff that people will accuse random women of being “terfs” simply because they made a post about not liking makeup. We can’t simultaneously be ugly bitches who hate makeup because we’re not good at it, and a club of hyperfeminine women who exclude any woman who doesn’t participate in the expensive and time consuming ritual of making themselves look like a model.
Stop calling everyone (because it’s not even just women at this point) who ever has even the slightest difference in opinion about the trans movement (because you guys get mad at stuff that isn’t even hateful! Like “AFAB and AMAB are intersex terms please stop co-opting them and come up with new terms instead”) a “terf” and maybe you won’t look like fools every time you accuse radfems of stuff that is the exact opposite of what we think and/or do
it's not even that ppl slightly misunderstand radical feminism. they FULLY don't even know the core tenets and then end up saying stupid shit like "radical feminism thinks if you have short hair, you should be shot on sight because you have betrayed the barbie code" and will get 40k positive notes lmaoo
#you guys are the ones that get pissed that masculine women aren’t identifying iut of womanhood#plenty of women have been asked if they’re SURE they still go by she/her because they have short hair#a comedian was told to ‘just hurry up and transition already’ because she has short hair and wears suits#you guys see masculine women who still call themselves women as a threat and will push them to transition#don’t say it doesn’t happen because I’ve seen it numerous times throughout the past 5 years#a girl got in trouble at her school for making the trans kids uncomfortable because they didn’t like that she was a butch lesbian#she didn’t even say anything rude to anyone. just her saying ‘no I’m a woman’ made them feel ‘unsafe’#and she got called to speak to the principal over it#you also claim that men who wear dresses and skirts are ‘mocking’ transwomen instead of just. being men who like dresses and skirts#i’ve seen this with real men and fictional men#fictional male characters who wear dresses are ‘caricatures’ of trans people. because you guys can’t fathom that feminine men exist#in yiur head if a man is feminine he MUST transition#and if he doesn’t it’s just because he hates trans people#you guys looooove femboys but ONLY when they’re transmen#’cis’ femboys are a threat. they’re eggs. they MUST transition. if they don’t it’s because they hate you
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By: Emily Yoffe
Published: Jan 20, 2025
Toward the end of the 2024 presidential campaign, Donald Trump’s campaign released an unexpected ad, and one that was extremely politically effective. The tagline—“Kamala is for they/them. President Trump is for you.”—could go down in history as one of the most effective campaign slogans ever devised.
The ad reinforced a promise Trump repeated at rally after rally as he toured the swing states: If returned to office, he would immediately take on the gender ideology the Biden administration had embraced. Namely, he would end policies such as allowing males on women’s sports teams and in women’s locker rooms, and the housing of male prisoners who identify as transwomen in federal prisons for female offenders.
President Trump has addressed all this and more in an expansive executive order he will sign tomorrow afternoon called “Defending Women from Gender Ideology Extremism and Restoring Biological Truth to the Federal Government.”
Here is what the order sets out:
The Executive Order establishes Government-wide the biological reality of two sexes and clearly defines male and female.
All radical gender ideology guidance, communication, policies, and forms are removed.
Agencies will cease pretending that men can be women and women can be men when enforcing laws that protect against sex discrimination.
“Woman” means an “adult human female.”
The Executive Order directs that Government identification like passports and personnel records will reflect biological reality and not self-assessed gender identity.
The Executive Order ends the practice of housing men in women’s prisons and taxpayer funded “transition” for male prisoners.
The Executive Order ends the forced recitation of “preferred pronouns” and protects Americans’ First Amendment and statutory rights to recognize the biological and binary nature of sex.
This includes protection in the workplace and in federal funded entities like schools.
Asked why Trump is making sex-based policy a day one priority of his administration, an incoming senior administration official said, “This really was a defining issue of the campaign. The president is going to be fulfilling the promises he made on the trail.” The executive order puts it more bluntly: “Radical gender ideology has devastated biological truth and women’s safety and opportunity.”
It is becoming something of a presidential tradition to begin a term with sweeping directives regarding “gender identity.” President Biden, on his first day in office, demanded the federal government “review all existing orders, regulations, guidance documents, policies, programs, or other agency actions” that could impinge on transgender rights. Language and rules about transgender identities became embedded in the vast federal bureaucracy.
Now, Trump has ordered a reversal of all this. In an exclusive briefing with The Free Press, two senior officials provided a summary of the executive order. “Women deserve protections, they deserve dignity, they deserve fairness, they deserve safety,” said a senior policy adviser explaining why the order explicitly embraces the necessity of special treatment for women. “And so this is going to help establish that in federal policy and in federal laws.”
In reading the order, it’s clear that lawsuits challenging the new directives will start stacking up quickly. The order, for example, asserts that “All radical gender ideology guidance, communication, policies, and forms are removed.” This is far from mere symbolism. United States passports—which since 2022 have allowed citizens to choose “X” as their gender—will revert to offering exclusively male and female options, with the proviso that what people select must “reflect biological reality and not self-assessed gender identity.”
The executive order also “ends the forced recitation of ‘preferred pronouns’ and protects Americans’ First Amendment and statutory rights to recognize the biological and binary nature of sex.” When asked about how this would affect public universities, which are bound by the First Amendment’s free speech protections, the senior policy adviser said the U.S. attorney general will enforce these rights. The adviser cited a 2022 federal court ruling to the effect that a Shawnee State University philosophy professor was deprived of his First Amendment rights by being forced to address a transgender student using that student’s chosen pronouns.
The task of the Trump administration now will be to promulgate rules implementing the order, which will affect people’s daily lives. It is inevitable that activist organizations will take these matters to court. The policy adviser said the administration is ready for litigation, predicting Trump will be “100 percent successful.”
It’s a fight the new administration seems to relish. Both officials said the executive order has the potential to broaden the president’s support. “Just take a look at the polling,” the senior official said. “The public is broadly in favor of the president’s and of the Republican Party’s stance on gender. That there are two biological sexes is something that the public is supportive of.”
The executive order does not address one of the most contentious areas of transgender activism: “gender-affirming care” for minors, meaning putting gender-distressed young people on a swift course to transition and lifetime medication. The Biden administration ardently supported such treatments, even as other Western nations began to restrict them, and dozens of U.S. states began to ban them.
The Biden administration sued Tennessee over its ban. That case resulted in a contentious oral argument at the Supreme Court in December, after which most observers felt the court would probably uphold Tennessee’s law.
Asked about why the new executive order does not deal with this, the senior official said, “This executive order is the first of many. I would expect that anything the president said he would do on the trail regarding these issues, he’s going to be fulfilling those promises.”
The order ends with a sweeping statement about the fundamental issue the White House believes is at stake in this order: ”Men and women are equal but have obvious sexual differences,” it reads. “If federal policies promote such an obvious falsehood that men can become women, the government will forfeit all credibility. The government must maintain a commitment to recognizing biological reality to maintain the trust of the American people.”
This order is one of nearly 200 executive actions the White House is rolling out today. Among them: orders to declare a national emergency at the border; end all DEI programs across the federal government; withdrawal from the Paris climate accord; and a return-to-office directive for federal workers.
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Go ahead and try to explain how this is unreasonable.
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Whats your opinion on the Shinigami Eyes stuff with people saying the owner is discriminating against transmen and intersex people? Ive seen weird posts circulating from people who are trying to refute it and seem to slip into dodgy things about transmen.
Asking you because youre the most notable transman blogger i follow and I know youve talked about similar things before.
im someone intersex who like grew up veryvery surrounded by radfems &terf ideology as primarily the target (dispite being "afab"), its why i hang out allot in transfem spases becauyse i share alot of expereienses w/ transfems in terms of transmysogeny- & have done a few deconstructions of some terff talking points in the past.
i think 1 ofthe main things abt radfem ideologyy is the urge 2 gatekeep oppression- the idea of oppresion (&more specifically msyogeny) beingg based on "biological sex" (& thereefore the assumption that biologicall sex is always clockable &that everybody posseses a chromcsome dectrector 3000). the ideaa that mysogeny is specific & exlcusive to only women, & that its impossible for a man 2 experience it- is very much a terf idea.
this is whyy terfs hate transwomen so much- because they few them as "biological males" trying 2 "co-opt & silence" the experiences of cis women & their talks aboutt oppresion. TME/TMA stuff is literally the exact same thing but with a different coat of paint.
the thing that peoplee use transmysogeny to describe- is the ideaa that maleness is fundimentally threatening- thatbeing seen as male in a womens space is inharently devientt & predatory. everything u do has to be wateredd down & made nonthreatening- (lest you fall into theirr idea of an evill ew gross disgusting man) so that way you can instead be treated like a stupid whiny bitch woman.- its the simoltanious assignmentt of only the worst traits of both men & women
when you are trans & you are seen as male you are a predator, and when you are seen as female you are stupid & ignorable. when youu are assigned one or both of these roles that is done BY THE BIGOT- for failingg to meet some kindof invisablee line of neatly fitting into one or theother. this is also what people tend to be describing when they sayy transandrophobia- thoughh many of those posts tend to be taken in very bad faith because peoplee (including in discussions of transmysogeny) aree very averse to the idea that being seen as male is not an inharently benifical assignment & also ignore the whole like, mysogeny part of the equasion- that simoltanious assignment.
when you veiww men as inharently powerful & women as powerless then spacess that are designed to be a safe space for people whoare beingg victimized are denied to anybody who meets some unseen standardd of male-ness. you see this alott in feminist & womens groups- but it also extends to things that shouldnt even be gendered in the fuirst place, like rape crisis lines & shelters.
alot ofthe wholee transmasc vs transfem discourse just comesdown to wantingg to gatekeep the experiense of transmysogeny- & as with all gender & bioessentialism this means thatt intersex people have to also deal with significantley more hostility even in the communities thatshould argueabley be the most accepting twards us-
shingami eyes is runn by a transwoman that has alottof these terfy beliefs and as alwaysthis means sliding into extremelyy blatent intersexism- posts thatare advocateing against nonconsentual medicall procedures againnst intersex people have gotten them marked as "anti trans". i shouldntt need to tell youhow thats fucked.
ive had to live in radfem spacess myself & i reallyreally hate seeing people radicallised like this because i know how it happens- there is an infinite pool to pull from of disgustingg instances of mysogenistic violence & so its extremely easyy to construct the narative that you as the woman aree always the innocent victim of oppression & all of the evill disgusting sexist males are yourr enemy- & that the only way to ever be safe is to isolate yourselff amongst only the women that agree with you!!
its a trick that usess all of the disgustingg acts of transphobia &mysogeny to isolate you- thesee spaces curatee an experiense where u only ever see the worst of what men (or people terfs veiw as men) have to offer- a trickk that ultimately makes your situation worse- because by not existing aroundd people who meet your standardd of "male-ness" whatever that is- you get a very very false perseption
this is also whyy radfem ideologyy is so prevelant on woman-on-woman violence & grooming- because it scaress a victim into thinking that THEY are the only safe person in the world, that there is no escape, that whatever is happening to you will get 298729x worse if you even TRY to leave. without eleaborating- this is how the majorrity of my experiense with CSA happened. because i believed that telling anybody would subjecct me to worse, and that my abusers fundimentally "had my best intrest" just by virtue of their gender-
anybody who tries to isolate you is a fuckin fed, we all aree stuckk in the transsexual tarr pit, puppies &kitties friends 4ever.
#ask#asks#Anonymous#this radicawlization happens w/ both transfems & transmascs- andd sorta stupidlyy instances of eaither groups brushes w/ terfism are#often usedd within the construction of thatt sorta femalee sepratist being theonly safe thing narativ#alsoo itried vry hard 2 type good 4 this#myarm hurts#the beast speaks#retchid opinions#ive mosttley taken alotta myold posts discussing this down becausee idont really like the terms that i usedd#uhh liek misandry coulld theroretiocally describe whatim talking about but transmysogeny is alott more understandable& less loaded#less likely 2 sound like an mra yakno
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saw a silly post on twitter by the_angler_mann and had to doodle my own
those killer eyebrows…
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another extra (we dgaf about her opinion)
yes I made Vivian the one to conceive cuz transwomen should be able to do it too (if you really need an explanation it was by magic)
#vivibella#paper mario vivian#paper mario goombella#paper mario ttyd#goombella x vivian#vivian x goombella#vivibella baby
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actually i think its transphobic to say „transwomen are women“ when they are transwomen and „transmen are men“ when they are transmen - because its erasing their trans experience, them being trans.
i know this sounds like a joke but im serious.
for example, yesterday i saw a video where couples did lie detector tests together and there was one couple that was a man and a transwoman; i clocked her immediately (which is not a moral judgement of any kind she seemed like a cool person honestly). anyways one of the questions the man had was if she saw him as a straight man? and she said yes. and he made some other comments that showed clearly that he was struggling with his sexuality because he is with a transwoman but considers himself heterosexual. i know that for example blair whites partner is also vocal about how hetero he is.
and i genuinely feel sorry for trans people who are in a relationship with someone like that because they are so clearly uncomfortable with them being trans? and i feel like its very counterintuitive to reassure them theyre heterosexual, which in this context means „its okay to be with a trans person not because being trans is okay but because they are actually the opposite sex“. do you know what i mean? instead of saying „there is no shame in being bisexual“ and „there is no shame in being with a person who is trans“ they say „there is no shame in being with a trans person because they are actually the opposite sex“.
just something i noticed. trans activists call out trans erasure when the whole claiming they are the opposite sex is erasing trans experiences. we should work on the acceptance of trans people as they are and make it accepted to be with trans people instead of telling the people who are attracted to but uncomfortable being with trans people that them being trans does not matter and reassure them theyre still heterosexual. its bi erasure too lowkey, and a whole lot of homophobia.
#mine#gender#the insisting on twaw and tmam causes more issues than just recognising (medically transitioned) trans people as their own category
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"social murder" being something that only ever happens to transwomen wild to me. dont wanna piggyback off the othwr anon, my experience isnt as awful as theirs, but god for years i was stuck in a friend group as the only transguy (made up of cis men and women, and a transfem), and would be the only person pushing back against "all men are scum" "femboy is a slur" and demonized masculinity to a point i started using robot characters as Gender Goals so they wouldnt get nitpicked apart. and eventually i am ghosted by all of them during one of the worst periods of my life and have to rebuild. all this discoursw has made me thjnk about that group, and how theyd default to anything the transfem said but constantly ignored me, like she was the only "real" trans person. fucking bizarre.
i dont want this to sound anti-transfem btw, the cis people held these awful opinions already. its just interesting to me how they had to use one token trans person who agreed with them to defend themselves, rather than defending their points on their face. idk, probably messy as hell and sorry if this isnt fully coherent. everytime i read something about "social murder" it really brings me back
the TRF response would be that you were the bad guy for Not All Menning and having the wrong (right) opinion about the word femboy
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Piglin stuff bc im. bored and kinda sad.
-Piglins are a Netherian race of anthropomorphic boars. The term “piglin” is an Overworld name for the race, literally meaning “pig-like” or “derived from pigs”. the term was adopted by the piglins, who’s word for themselves could be translated to a similar phrase.
-Piglins are matriarchal and live in clans but the eldest son of the clan is trained as a brute, or soldier in the multi-clan bastions as a representative. “brute” is, again, an Overworld name based on the Piglim word for soldier, which is a grunt that sounds a bit like the English word “brute”. the Piglin word is actually more like “brrutk.”
-Piglin language (Grüntish) is made up of a series of grunts, oinks, and squeals. one grunt can mean many different things based on culture, context, and tone. for example, take “brrutk”. that grunt or word can translate to soldier, eldest son, diplomat, or even villain depending on how the grunt is enunciated.
-Because Piglins naturally have a warmer body temperature, about 115° F or 46° C, cold temperatures are a better indicator of illness than warmer temperatures. the zombie virus, also known as the rotting disease, is a disease that happens when Netherians are exposed to colder temperatures or are ill enough that they become cold.
-The rotting disease pandemic hit the Nether severely, wiping out fauna and flora for a long time before it was managed. Piglins, their forests, and their main sources of food (hoglins and striders) were especially affected.
-Piglins make their clothes from hoglin and strider leather. Their main source of meat is hoglins, and they usually tame striders as transportation. Hoglins are sometimes captured and placed inside of bastions to protect the area or be released in battle against enemies, but this is extremely dangerous and therefore quite rare.
-Professions within Piglin clans are loose and unspecialized, since every clan member needs to learn and act as farmers, doctors, and hunters simultaneously. Matriarchs (Kruuk), heirs, and high-ranking men in clans do the same work as the rest of the clan
-Clans are family based, but sometimes can contain as many as four or five family units. These are organized and ruled by the oldest women from each family, all working together as one democratic “council”
-LGBT identities are honored in Piglin communities. transwomen who used to be brrutks are particularly respected for their ability to become kruuks and their experience in a bastion.
-Bastions (military bases that are organized and run by multi-clan alliances) are manned by the brrutks, prisoners, and volunteers. Serving in a bastion is both an honorable thing and a punishment depending on why you are there.
-Killing a hoglin is the most honorable thing a piglin can do, and an apprentice piglin (a younger member if a clan who is training) killing their first hoglin is a cause for celebration as it marks the end of their training. Hoglets (baby hoglins) are never hunted, but they can be captured to be brought into bastions.
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ugh. once i sent an ask to a “lesbian advice and support” blog when i was like 18 and i expressed concerns about strapons and sex and how i dont want to be like a man and use one. and the response i got was like. well actually many lesbians use strapons and it doesnt make them men! same w transwomen and their biological strapons. well that made me feel really gross. the answer i wanted was to hear that theres a lot of other ways to have sex and strapons arent necessary and i never have to use one if i dont want to but that doing so doesnt make me a man cause we’re both women. whatever
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idk abt u guys but i feel like the argument that transandrophobia isn't real is borderline so stupid. the words existence isn't to imply that androphobia/misandry is an actual issue at all or somehow deserve more attention than womens experiences, or thatmen are somehow not privileged. its refering to trans men's experiences with being shamed for "choosing" to be men. its saying the demonetization of our identities is harmful, that trans men are not misogynists for being men, that trans men should not have to apologize for their identity.
i will admit, transandrophobia is definitely misleading, and implies its a similar form of gendered oppression to cis men, (in the same way transmisogyny and misogyny are similar oppression wise), which it's not. being a trans man doesnt exclude or save you from misogyny, nobody is saying trans men and transmascs cannot weaponize misogyny. please stop believing radfems who claim men can only exist in opposition to women.
think about it this way: cis men are not oppressed, they are incredibly privileged, these are well known facts, yet transwomen are demonized for "being men" or "pretending" to be a woman. trans women are oppressed and shamed for being "predatory" and fitting other male stereotypes. in this situation, she is being oppressed because society views her as a man, and therefore easily targetable as a threat. this is a mindset put forward by transphobic politicians, radfems & terfs in order to oppress and harm trans women.
you see where im going here? a similar tactic is used on trans men, where again men are momentarily viewed as evil and violent. this is projected onto trans men in order to justify hatred towards them. cis men are not oppressed, trans men are however. this tactic is used to discourage transmascs & men from starting t, putting forward stereotypes and rumors that t will somehow turn you into a perverted violent asshole, or queer communities isolating transmascs when they embrace their masculinity.
its taking societies hatred towards patriarchy and projecting it onto vulnerable minorities. this form of oppression is less similar to any prejudice put forward towards cis men in order to stay safe, and rather violent stereotypes made about trans women.
i could get side tracked and talk about how womenhood is used in a similarly weaponized manner, one that (because women are oppressed and misogyny is an issue) also affects cis women. like how trans women are discouraged from starting e in fear of "becoming weak" and other misogynistic stereotypes, and how trans men are told they'll never be "real men" because they'll always be a "weak little girl". i could also compare that to my previous examples with men being deemed violent and dangerous in order to harm trans people, and mention how those stereotypes do not harm cis men, because for so long being violent has been deemed desirable and masculine, and that cis men do not experience oppression.
transandrophobia isn't saying trans men aren't in any way more privileged than trans women. we are. it isn't saying cis men are oppressed. they aren't. its simply stating that our gender is treated like something dangerous, and like an opposition to womenhood. its talking out about the problems with a system that cannot support men and women without demonizing one, about how the concept of manhood being an opposition to women is a harmful stereotype used against trans individuals, rather than cis men. please stop listening to radfems. we're all on the same side, we're all fighting for the same rights. stay alive and take care of each other.
take my little guy i made 4 pride last year. he wants friends
#trans man#trans men#trans#trans pride#transgender#transfem#transmasc#trans women#trans woman#trans rights#trans male#transmisandry#transmisogny#.txt
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The hatesub r/systemscringe are being full-on transphobes again!
Reminder: a huge number of systems have alters and headmates with completely different genders and sexes from the body.
Anyone who has ever studied any type of multiplicity is aware of this fact.
And not-so-shockingly, this makes gender complicated.
Let's just see the screenshots they're angry at today.
So the body has transitioned to male but this one headmate identifies as female and identifies as a trans woman.
In another screenshot, the system says they aren't "invading trans spaces." Which is such an absurd thing to have to defend yourselves from accusations of when you're a part of a trans system.
Even if you do take the position that spaces for transwomen should be exclusionary AFAB people, one would at least expect the male headmates to be able to feel safe in the trans community without being made to feel like they're "invaders."
Unfortunately, many pluralphobes and queer exclusionists have decided the gender identity of headmates in systems is less valid than that of singlets.
This is another pretty common thing. Especially with introjects who have source memories. It's common to have memories of lives you may not have actually lived but still feel pretty real.
I did a Tumblr poll last year. About half of systems responding had at least one trans headmate with the same gender as the body's AGAB. Nearly all had cis headmates with the opposite gender of the body.
Of course, if you heard it from r/systemscringe, they must be faking being trans entirely!
And takes like this throw not just systems under the bus, but also people who are genderfluid or otherwise nonbinary as well.
And if you're thinking, "wow, that comment sounds like something truscum would say," you aren't wrong!
Here are some unrelated posts this same user has authored:
Back to r/systemscringe, most of the comments were more of the same, stopping just short of calling them transtrenders but clearly very much wanting to!
By the way, all the censors on the names of the system and alters were mine. u/superthrowawayEEE censored nothing. When a user points this out, moderator u/DizkoLites says they considered taking it down but chose not to, saying their name was common enough that it wouldn't matter.
To be fair, the mods did end up taking it down... after the system got harassed for their gender and contacted the subreddit directly.
So congrats on waiting until after the harassment to enforce your own rules!
But don't worry, you're free to make a brand new post mocking someone for their gender identity! r/systemscringe's mod team is totally cool with that! Just gotta hide the name because that's apparently the only problem here!🙄
(You know, unless they're on the mod-approved hit list. Then you can name them too no matter how much harassment they get.)
The other day, someone asked this question on the hatesub:
Here's the answer:
Stop being bigots.
Stop being ableists.
Stop spreading misinformation.
Stop mocking people for their genders.
Stop harboring truscum and parroting transphobic talking points!
Try to be decent human beings for once in your lives!
And then... well, I guess that wouldn't leave much of a subreddit would it? There's no r/systemscringe without ableism, transphobia and queer exclusionism. It's baked into the DNA of these groups.
But maybe that would be for the best.
Nothing from these cringe communities is salvageable. And nothing should be socially acceptable about groups founded on cyberbullying.
#syscourse#lgbt discourse#lgbt#lgbtqia#lgbtq#queer#nonbinary#gender fluid#trans discourse#genderqueer#actually a system#truscum#sysblr#ableists#ableism#r/systemscringe#systemscringe#hate group#hate groups#transphobes
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