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akajustmerry · 2 years ago
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its truly moving how much grace in this episode was given to the reality of losing a parent who was abusive and how none of the Roys reactions is cut and dry. A huge part of their grief is not just for Logan, but that there is never going to be reconciliation. the possibility of their father apologising, being the dad they needed, has died with him. ken's"i can't forgive you, but i love you" encapsulates so much of that conflict, the cognitive dissonance of loving your parent and being their victim who is never going to get closure. roman tells Logan he's "a monster" so, of course, he'll be okay wherein his frame of reference for his father's strength is his own fear of it. shiv's childish insistence that she can't allow this, as if asserting herself hoping her father will admonish her for it as he always has. it's one thing to know your parent harmed you irrevocably and wish them suffering for that - but it's another thing, "a material event", to lose them and lose the chance, the hope once and for all, that the one person who hurt you more than anyone will make it okay. obviously, it's okay if you lose your abusive parent and feel nothing or feel glad, but i felt so relieved to see this episode give space to the tedious, complicated and painful reality that, even if you don't want to, you can feel grief your abusive parent and the loss of hope that leaves with them.
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watmalik · 5 months ago
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Hugh is such a dad omg this is so fucking cute. Protect this man at all costs
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techutones · 3 months ago
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I had to take my phone to the phone shop so I handed my phone to him and I forgot my wallpaper was Deadpool and Wolverine kissing and I didn't know what to do because he looked up at me and then looked back down at the phone so I said "ignore my wallpaper please"
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theeerealpunkin · 1 year ago
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Patton, somewhere to the side: *incredibly distressed puppy sounds*
Janus: *vaguely intrigued, knowing this is a bad idea but too curious about the outcome to stop them* no no, don't mind him. Go on
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satellite-runner · 4 months ago
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i just know oscar’s mum is going to speak about logan
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wishchip106 · 1 month ago
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imagine what the xmen would be like if charles and erik were human
i’m imagining more movie version of xmen with this
if we look at first class moira did originally reach out to charles because he’s a genetics professor and not a mutant
when charles was doing his presentation at the CIA they were not convinced until he and raven showed their mutations
honestly don’t know how raven managed to tag along maybe charles convinced everyone she could come
but like without his telepathy he probably gets rejected and he likely leaves with raven
now erik was only taken in by shaw because he bended the gate so we just got to hope he survived the ‘average’ camp experience
although nothing about the holocaust is average
it could be likely he still becomes a n*zi hunter just without the advantages of his mutation
or he just tries to live his life after that insanely traumatic experience
who knows but basically its unlikely these two will ever meet unless we pull out a romance movie type meet cute thing
now onto the actual xmen starting with the first class mutants they’d likely still live their average lives in hiding (and alex in solitary confinement)
jean would likely be going through foster systems until she’s old enough to live on her own or she gets adopted but without the shields charles put in place her powers would likely take over her and she might end up causing a lot of harm to a lot of people
storm would either been in cairo still or somewhere else but if we’re focusing on the movie timelines, her power would be very minimal
she would likely grow up living on a thief’s wage until she finds something else to do with her life (i wouldn’t know what honestly)
scott would be walking around blindfolded 24/7 as he didn’t have hank to make his glasses for him. if alex continued to stay in solitary confinement he probably had no one to feel connected with
logan would still be fitting into his ‘wild animal’ thing and just moving around bar to bar trying to find something worth doing in his life
rogue would likely of died in the van explosion
a lot of the mutant kids living in the x-mansion wouldn’t have a place to call home and the majority of them would be living on the streets getting persecuted
there would be no brotherhood OR xmen to stop humans from wiping out mutants completely
sure maybe some mutants rise up to make they’re own groups but they likely don’t have the influence of a rich old white guy
crazy how much impact these guys have on the world
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both with they’re influence on mutants AND their insanely dramatic romance that lives across the ages
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loganslowdown4 · 10 months ago
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wow
I find them EVERYWHERE 😅
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womp-womp-waa · 3 months ago
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Tyler hated his mom
Well, not completely atleast. He knows he shouldn't hate her. She's been through alot and he shouldn't be selfish and ignore everything she's done for him. His mom's tried her hardest even when she couldn't get out of bed. Suffering through guilt that plague the whole family wasn't easy on her.
But it wasn't easy on him either. Does saying that make him selfish? Is he nothing but an ungrateful brat because he wants people to acknowledge that he suffered too? That he isn't just the hard working player like everyone see's him as. What if he wants the same kind of support everyone else in his situation would be getting? What if he wants to talk about the grief he's feeling without the crushing guilt that comes along with it? The guilt that comes when he remembers that not everything's about him and that he needs to stop being so self-centered and focus on everyone else who needs help. Because he doesn't really need help.
No he's fine.
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icegirl2772 · 3 months ago
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Going to the Concert Made Me Wanna Watch the Show Again
My comment so far on the pilot: We needed more Mr. X - especially him randomly appearing and teaching dances.
My mum's (aka my concert buddy) comment so far on the pilot: Logan hasn't aged a day (and she also thought James was wearing a wig)
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gaylittlebillionaires · 2 years ago
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thinking about how shiv looks like a person logan’s lost (rose) while kendall and roman look like a person he’s discarded (caroline)
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tinylilvalery · 2 years ago
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What's interesting about witnessing the shift in Tom and Shiv's relationship, is that for the first 3 seasons Shiv got to live in comfort of being her father in the relationship. She was in control. She was the emotionally detached one, keeping Tom at a distance from her inner vulnerable self like her father does to her and her siblings, despite Tom always appealing to that side of her, bearing himself and wanting that intimacy. She held all the power, and in holding all the power she felt secure that she wasn't going to be screwed over (like her dad did to her mum) and abandoned (like she felt her mum did to her). She could escape the fucked up divorce her parents had by being the embodiment of power (her father),,, which, like a lot of children of a messy divorce, she wanted to avoid such a thing for herself at all cost, and pride herself on her marriage and choice of partner instead of getting help for the trauma and damage she'd carried since childhood. Shiv was safe. She was secure. Like her dad, she had her own dog to kick to test its loyalty and feel secure and reassured every time that dog came back to her side.
But then the dog did bite back. Tom did betray her. The man she viewed as beneath her, all worshipping, and in her eyes nowhere near as smart as her, outplayed her and betrayed her and won over the approval of the very man that she'd been emulating. And now she's not her father. She's the last person she ever wanted to be. She's her mother. She's the one on the receiving end of Logan through Tom, making the divorce messy and difficult and painful by using the same tactics he did with her mother, something that gets to her easily and makes her extremely upset to the point where she's verging on tears. Tom is the one at Waystar + ATN. Tom is the one saying "uh huh." To her.
She thought that she could escape her mother's fate by being her father. By being cold and distant and emotionally closed off. By being the one who kicked the dog. She let her trauma and fears rule and guide her into making decisions and behaving in harmful ways (to Tom and herself) that she thought would protect her and never let her be hurt. And none of it worked. Because despite it all, she became her mother.
#became her mum in context of the relationship*#Shiv Roy#tom wambsgans#tomshiv#failmarriage#like ultimately her downfall was how the trauma of her parents messy divorce impacted and ruled her without her even being aware#because she was taught by Logan that emotions are a weakness so you better not get emotional about anything#you better repress all that shit and act like it doesnt bother you#let your subconscious cauterize itself till you can't hear it but you just let it rule you#and so cos she didn't sort of her shit (none of the siblings have and neither has Logan) she was ruled by this trauma#cos thats what happens when you have trauma and you dont sort it out#it lead to her being an asshole to Tom#because in her eyes her getting to be the emotionally absent partner that cares less for the other is more safe#she's in control. she kicks the dog.#and it calmed her subconscious and made her feel safe and at ease#not taking into account how that would wear Tom down over time#esp when Tom had someone like Greg at his side. like i fr don't know if Tom woulda ever betrayed Shiv if it wasn't for him having Greg#basically in short jus cos you're traumatised doesn't give you excuse to be an asshole to others to feel good and safe#it just means you're continuing the cycle#and people can argue that Tom knew what he was getting into in regards to loving her#but she also coulda put a stop to the relationship at any time. she chose to continue it and dish out on Tom#and took his love for granted#anywayyyyzzz#i love Shiv i love Tom#and it's sad#but consequences for actions and all that#succession#succession hbo
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hagenwo43 · 1 year ago
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Casually got 15 unread messages
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ghostdrinkssoup · 2 years ago
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watching succession with my mum is so fucking funny because every time kendall and logan have a charged interaction that references ancient greek tragedies and ruins me emotionally she’ll be like look! it’s sad kendall! hehe sad kendall is a meme ^_^ and I promptly lose my shit
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bigmilk-13 · 1 year ago
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did I accidentally (otherwise known as on purpose) connect not two but *three* different fandoms with one character because I was bored but the fact that they all make so much sense is terrifying and hilarious at the same time?
Mhm- think so.
(Fandoms are Alex Rider, Miraculous Ladybug and Gilmore Girls if you're curious)
(The character is Hermia Bourgeois if you're even more curious- Chloe's fifteen years older half-sister, mother is Helen Rider and father was André Bourgeois)
(If you are seriously so so SO curious... I'll make this a fanfic- maybe. Yeah.)
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bakafurai · 10 months ago
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Found this floofy rascal up on the dinner table
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transbeamrooikat · 11 months ago
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some Roman rambles from school :3
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