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Lots of them. Here comes my list of Florence + The Machine songs :
Cosmic love : the first song I knew of her. Thanks to a Twilight fan vid edit.
Daffodill : I LOVE the change of vibe in the song so sudden. I got introduced to this one because a Harry Potter marauders era fanfic (about Narcissa Black).
Florida!!! : technically It isn't a Florence's song, Its a Taylor Swift ft Florence song... But to me It feels more like a Florence song than a Taylor song, even if Its Taylor's...It's just the vibes, If It makes any sense 😅.
Girl with one eye :
So creepy, so catchy and edgy. Great american southern gothic vibes . I would put It on every single (nowadays setting) Vampire fiction show and film ever.
Seems to me like a conversation between an assaulter and Its víctim (about to get a revenge) to me, I dont know if i'm right, just my reading... so original & different.
Heavy in your arms : Total banger .
" This will be my last confession
I love you never felt like any blessing
Whisper it is like it's a secret
Only to condemn the one who hears it
With a heavy heart "
It completely slaps !!!!
Howl : another banger.
" Be careful of the curse that falls on young lovers
Starts so soft and sweet and turns them to hunters"
Hunger : and another banger!!!
" Oh, and you in all your vibrant youth
How could anything bad ever happen to you?
You make a fool of death with your beauty, and for a moment
I forget to worry"
June : love this song. Just love It!!!
It has Djats vibes (like a song written by Daisy for Billy). Its very Daisybilly coded. Like...
" The show was ending and I had started to crack
Woke up in Chicago and the sky turned black
And you're so high, you're so high, you have to be an angel
And I'm so high, I'm so high, I can see an angel
...
In those heavy days in June
When love became an act of defiance
Hold onto each other
...
You were broken-hearted and the world was too
And I was beginning to lose my grip
And I have always held it loosely
But this time, I admit
I felt it really start to slip
.....
I'm always down to hide with you.
I think Daisy Jones and the Six writter got inspired by this song (song IS from 2018 and book from 2019)
King : feminist.
And the Line : " I never knew my killer would be coming from within" is a haunting one.
Mermaids One of my fave songs ever. Party. Poetry. Dancy. Indie. Its wholesome to me.
My love : Love and time lost. A classic
Never let me go : LOVE It. Plus the videoclip features Jamie Campbell Bower, Who I LOVE.
No light no light : Another of my faves ever.
The whole song Its a poem, Its a vibe, Its just amazing!!!
Over the love : Best thing about the modern film of the Great Gatsby Its this song tbh.
Queen of peace : so cool. Love it
Rabbit Heart (raise It Up) : Alice in wonderland with a human turning into Vampire vibes, cool. "This IS a gift / It comes with a price..."
Seven devils : Another classic banger. Eery poem. Witchy vibes. My gothic teen self adored It.
Shake It out : The classic of Florence. Everyone knows It. And for a good reason.
Ship to wreck : love the song. Like a comforting chaos. Love the videoclip like the fkat Its asinking boat. Just love It.
Silver springs cover Technically a Fleetwood Mac song. Unpopular opinion : I like It better than the original, I like both. But I like the way Florence songs It better.
Spectrum Sounds spiritual, and
" Say my name / As every colour illuminates/ We are shining/ And we will never be afraid again" those lines live in my head rent
St jude : Cool. Another song that reminds me of Daisy Jones and the Six like...
" St Jude, maybe I've always been more comfortable in chaos // And I couldn't keep my mouth shut, I just had to mention// Grabbing your attention//St Jude, the patron saint of the lost causes"
The end of love "I've always been in love with you//Could you tell it from the moment that I met you?" Lives in my head rent free
Which Witch : And it's my whole heart// While tried and tested, it's mine// And it's my whole heart//Trying to reach it out// And it's my whole heart// Burned but not buried this time// I'm on trial, waiting 'til the beat comes out.
No more explanation needed.
ok what’s your florence + the machine song. mine is rabbit heart (raise it up)<3
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we know you like celestialchaos (Wukong/Xiangliu) and divorced shadowpeach (where Macaque is the pathetic ex) but do you have any other LMK ships?
with or without Wukong, doesn’t matter
I DO!! Im a semi multishipper so I have few ships I like and some of them a pretty rare but I'll explain why I like them in simple way.
Start with my third favorite:
StableBoy (Ao Lie/Wukong)
To me this ship just a cute one. It match my hc that Ao Lie being the first person Wukong ever open up to after all the shit he been through because Wukong loves horses lol. And Ao lie is one of the persons that see Wukong grow to be better. I can see it as first ever heathy relationship Wukong ever have. Also Ao Lie the first person he ever truly trusted always listening to what he says. Ao Lie is Wukong's light.
OTHER SHIPS 👇🏼👇🏼
GoldenDragon (Mk/Mei)
Best friend to lover trope. They is two people that would say "If we single when we 27, we just marry each other" and the keep their dynamic. Plus they always be their for each other and match each other energy. They know each other the best and I like that about them. And when I first watched lmk I actually think they were dating or something lol. Im just like the silver and gold brother demon 🥲 sue me. If anything GoldenDragon is not parelle with Shadowpeach but StableBoy.
FreeNoddle (Tang/Pigsy)
Old married couple for the win✨ I just like how they lovingly fight with each other but comfort each other when needed.
LionPeach (Azure/Wukong)
This really giving love at first sight 😭I mean what is this. Look I like them because they cute. Azure admire Wukong and see him as great warrior, a bother, the King! Little bit too much its unhealthy. And Wukong have all his trust and having same gold as him and that is making the world a better place. But because his admiration, he blame Wukong for failing. For not achieving what he expect of Wukong to be. He also think what he doing is right. But even everything he never wanted to hurt anyone deep down and he made mistakes and redeemed himself with his life despite everything he loved his friends and they all loved him. Just look at Wukong when Azure die. And after everyting Wukong still care about him in a way.
Shadowpuppet (Not Mayor/Macaque)
Petty rival that somehow get together lol. I like them both being shitty to each other but cant leave each other side because they only have each other 🥲.
DestinyBone (Mayor/Lady Bone Demon)
One side love. Mayor do everything for LBD while her only focus on her destiny. Everything he do is for her but now she gone...he is nothing.
PuppetPeach (Wukong/Mayor)
Toxic yuri- okay look I have this idea for them with Mayor try to find someone else to serve after LBD is gone. At first Mayor dont like Wukong because you know, Wukong is the one make him realize that LBD never actually need him. But when fighting with Wukong he remember something. The warm that Wukong left him. It also cold when come to lbd and that how he like it but this warm feel strange to him. After some stalking he see Wukong as the leader, as the protector, as the hero and most importantly as a KING. Someone who deserve to be serve. I made a fanfic once about them HERE
StringDoll (Spider Queen/Lady Bone Demon)
✨Toxic Yuri for real ✨No explainition just them
IronBull (PIF/DBK)
Vilain power couple ✨. They may be a shit parents to Red Son but damn they're THAT couple. They just good with each other. I like how dbk defend PIF by saying that PIF can handle herself because she is a strong women but still worry about her because THAT his wife, he have right to be worry. And PIF? She loyal for him. 500 years finding way to free her husband from mountain. *Ehem* Take note Macaque *Ehem*. PIF would rush to her husband always. Just like when Azure attack DBK and his family, PIF quickly rush and jump infront of her husband wanting to protect him. I was like damn, you go girl ✨They either be good parents or good couple. They made their decision lol.
GoldenFeather (Peng/Wukong)
Okay I like this ship because my friend @starrclown make me ship theme with their cute fanfic. But I still have my own idea for them. I like them in 2 way
1)Peng having a casual crush on Wukong. Its never anything big. Peng just think Wukong is funny and chaotic. Peng love 'chaos' anyway and without it they think it be boring. Peng know that Wukong never actually like anyone and is fine by that. If Wukong like them back it be awasome but if Wukong dont Peng will be just find.
2) Peng have crush on Macaque😬. Hate crush but still crush. The thing is that Mac is a simp for Wukong and Peng just don't get it. He just don't get what so good about Wukong that got Macaque drolling like that. Peng being curious and also don't want seem as coward like Macaque ask Wukong for a "night" just to have the taste. Now he understand Macaque and wanting Wukong
Also Peng might be more important to Wukong consider he is one of first ink from Wukong scroll that show up and the first one to attack
This is OC x Canon:
ToxicPeach (Steve/Wukong)
Okay this is crack ship that me and my friend @halfdeadhalfpaniced made with random character we call Steve. But more time pass I kinda like the ship. Steve the wanna rockstar fall in love with the Monkey King himself. Wukong is questioning why he like that loser lol
#lego monkie kid#lmk#shadowpeach#poisonpeach#clestialchoas#stableboy#goldendragon#lionpeach#FreeNoddle#destinybone#shadowpuppet#puppetpeach#StringDoll#IronBull#GoldenFeather#ToxicPeach#monkei kid#sun wukong#lmk sun wukong#lego monkie king#monkey king#lmk mk#lmk monkey king#lmk azure lion#lmk ao lie#lmk princess iron fan#lmk dbk#lmk oc Steve
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Dropping Byler Evidence Every Day Until Season 5
. ݁₊ ⊹ . ݁˖ . ݁ Day 21: Elmike Breakup vs. Byler Fight Scene . ݁₊ ⊹ . ݁˖ . ݁
Hi guys sorry I haven't done one of these in a couple days, I've been really sick and gross and super gross <3 yeah, but I'm back to give my mediocre analysis again today
DONT READ THIS POST IF U HATE LONG ESSAYS ABOUT BYLER HEEHEE
Today I wanted to talk about the parallels, or, as I like to call them, perpendiculars, between the mil*ven breakup scene and the byler garage fight in S3. The contrast between the two scenes shows the attitude that the writers take towards the two ships, and it honestly super obviously shows the difference between Mike's attitudes towards either relationship. This analysis won't just delve into the breakup scenes themselves as well, also the aftermaths, which are very telling.
The Breakup
The Lighting and Tone: for a scene that's supposed to be a breakup scene, the lighting is extremely bright here. It's supposed to be a sunny day, and the lighting is extremely even on everyone's faces. Things are bright, there's not upsetting music in the background. In fact, the music that plays after El breaks up with Mike is literally supposed to be funny because it's instantly: "she's as cold as ice". The lines have little meaning to them, for example, saying "i dump your ass" is played off as a joke or some kind of comeuppance, because it was what Max had said earlier.
Also, Lucas, Max and Will are also included in these scenes, making the tone less upsetting due to it being so busy, along with other mallgoers. This is very different to the tone in the garage scene, where no one is around, it's just Mike and Will, making it more intimate. This is in spite of the fact LUCAS was literally involved in the argument.
Also another thing about the lighting which I've not really seen many talk about. Everyone says that the day is a really sunny day, but honestly, it's not. It's super overcast and the clouds are grey, but here's the thing, this foreshadows the storm later on. This shows that something worse is coming for Mike. I.e. the garage fight in which the storm actually is happening.
Mike's Facial Expressions: I call this succession panicked, confused and annoyed. Because that's all he is. It's pretty much another case of the directors playing this scene off as a huge joke, rather than a serious scene that should cause any upset to the characters. It's just a transition scene from one side of the season to the other, aka from one side of El's arc to another. El being in a relationship with Mike feels like an incomplete part of her arc.
Okay I got a bit off track there, but I wanted to talk about Mike's faces he makes when El says: "You lie. Why do you lie?". I think the question here is supposed to be as if El is speaking for the audience. The audience is supposed to question the truth of why Mike is really lying, which, judging by this look is actually more than just Hopper telling him not to tell her the truth. If he was really that desperate to keep her, he would sacrifice having to go through with Hopper, but he doesn't see her as worth it. And, as you can see from Mike's face here, he really, truly doesn't know why he feels this urge to keep lying to her, to hide that something is wrong. He eventually does realise tho (at the end so S3 ofc heehee)
Then there are his faces when El finally dumps him, which did not have to be so confused and annoyed looking. Imagine watching him look annoyed and confused with sadder music over the top, it would be extremely jarring and wouldn't fit the tone. However, the music kind of matches his attitude, which is that he's kind of confused and doesn't take this seriously. Aka, the audience aren't supposed to feel upset that they're broken up. This is extremely different than when the byler argument scene happens, which you will see.
How It Makes the Audience Feel: Everyone in the GA talks about how S3 ruined Mike's character and the fact they no longer root for him. Well, well, well, maybe that's because you're not supposed to root for him. Especially not in this scene. The writers aren't stupid, they didn't just accidentally write a breakup scene where you're supposed to want the break up to happen. El looks extremely happy, and the previous scene is all about her finding herself and what makes her happy, so the breakup is the perfect ending for this scene of hers. So basically, in other words, breaking up with Mike makes El feel more 'her'. Which we are supposed to want. Ultimately, we see that Mike got what he deserved.
The music, the lighting, the facial expressions, the laughter, all of it makes the audience supposed to feel something. And that is happiness. Happiness at the end of a breakup scene? For the show's main couple? Wow. While it may seem like later on, they make the audience want Mike and El to get back together, it almost seems like a confusing journey, something that isn't truly what reflects El's wants and needs that she instinctively discovers here. Her first reaction is excitement.
The Aftermath: So after seeing El happy about breaking up with Mike, the audience who still root for Mileven may want a scene where El expresses some sort of regret or sadness that she just broke up with Mike. However, instead of writing that, the writers decide to make her look at other boys and have fun with Max, making her focus on the supernatural, familial-centered storyline that makes more sense for her arc.
Based on how El talks about Mike with Max, describing him as her "first boyfriend", I'm not sure that we can ever see her here as honestly ever being madly, obsessively in love with Mike. This will be a great contrast to Will literally saying that he thought him and Mike would just spend the rest of their lives together! Yeah, so, I wonder which relationship is supposed to be taken more seriously...
And obviously, we have to talk about the "he'll come crawling back, begging for forgiveness" thing happening in the same episode where El actually finds out what Mike and Lucas and Will are doing. The same episode where Mike chases after Will in the rain to his house across town to talk, banging on his door and apologising.
After El breaks up with Mike, he has no idea what he has done wrong, despite El spelling it out for him with the "why do you lie?" question. This further shows his denial and confusion on who he really is during this season, making his realisation at the end all the more gratifying. It's also interesting that he can easily, easily tell her truth now that they are broken up. The Hopper excuse is no longer valid. Her literally breaking up with him is what Hopper threatened him with if he told the truth. So now that they're broken up, WHY CANT HE JUST TELL HER??? This obviously contrasts with the fact that Mike instantly knows where Mike went wrong with Will, knowing how he needs to apologise and doesn't see himself as the victim in that situation despite Will's multiple insults of El.
Because El is the one to break up with Mike, ending their relationship, he says that she's acting on emotion rather than logic. This shows that Mike doesn't see his relationship through an emotional lens. He views it as the logical thing to do. I've talked at length before about how Mike sees being in a relationship with El and getting over Will as a vital part of growing up. He emulates his parents' loveless relationship, because that's a logical part of life, and to him, El just can't see that. So what does this mean? Does this mean that if Mike acted on his emotions, he would also break up with El?
This scene is also supposed to cast Mike in a bad light. As further emphasised by them not talking this situation seriously at all, resulting in them just doing typical 'boy' behaviour (burping and farting and laughing), rather than caring.
Basically, in this scene we see that Max's promise to El that Mike's hoping that El will take her back and begging for forgiveness, is false. And we see that El's reaction to that, is to laugh. She doesn't care, meaning the audience shouldn't either. The audience is, once again, not intended to root for Mike to get back with El, because a) she deserves better and b) she clearly doesn't care that much.
IN CONCLUSION: We are supposed to be happy that El broke up with Mike, laughing along at the unserious situation. Mike doesn't see where he went wrong, doesn't want to apologise, views his relationship with El as something logical and not emotional, and chooses to continue to lie to her despite not needing to anymore. El is happy and laughs about the situation, describes Mike as her first boyfriend, showing she has no real intention of getting back together with Mike.
The Garage Fight
The Lighting and Tone: Do I really need to say anything about fucking pathetic fallacy here? Is it really not that clear to some people lmao??? The fight happens in a literal storm, in the dark, which represents the feelings of the characters in the scene. This compared with the bright colours and weather of the breakup scene shows that it's supposed to be taken more seriously. Without realising it consciously, the audience are immediately focused on the fight and its impact, because the storm implies that this'll be painful (which it is jesus)
As well as the weather and dark lighting, we can see that Mike and Will are silhouettes in this scene, which are often used to make an image stand out to the viewer, to make it memorable and stick in their heads. The shot of them fighting in profile is shown multiple times, it's supposed to stick in the viewers' heads, it's supposed to create a huge impact for both characters' mental states.
The music is emotional and serious, very much contrasting to the music choice for the breakup which is supposed to be light and humorous. The music chosen for the scene is called "Not Kids Anymore", which begins me talking AGAIN about how Mike's always trying his best to grow up while Will just wants things to stay the same as it's always been.
Mike's Facial Expressions: Throughout this scene, we see frustration, regret and MORE regret! The first regret and the second regret are obviously different however. Overall, though, the facial expressions that both Mike and Will elicit in this scene are extremely painful--especially wills :(-- and this is greatly contrasted with the facial expressions in the break up scene. In the breakup scene we see confusion and annoyance, in this scene we see annoyance, yes, but it's immediately followed up by regret and sadness.
This is Mike's own reaction to himself saying the infamous "it's not my fault you don't like girls" line, because he immediately regrets saying it and knows where he went wrong, unlike with the other scene. Am I going to analyse that line? HAHA no no of course not, so many people have done it lololol--
Okay so Will had been talking about Dustin, which was the main focus during the argument, bringing about the topic that Mike never takes their friendship seriously anymore because he's focusing too much on a girl. Mike, despite being all nice to Will beforehand, suddenly goes on the defensive as soon as the legitimacy of his relationship is attacked, projecting his own denial about his sexuality towards Will. He sees Will's comment about El to be about him instead. The reason he regrets saying it so much is because he knows it hurts Will first and foremost, but also because he may realise that Will wasn't questioning Mike's sexuality.
THE SECOND REGRET comes after he mistakenly assumes that Will is going to agree with him that they should just grow up and get girlfriends. Instead, Will tells the truth that Mike is afraid to hear, which is that he did want to spend the rest of his life with him. So, we then see that Mike possibly wanted that as well, and just said that because it's the logical course of life that he's been internalised to believe in.
Another interesting shot to take note of is this one, which is after Will has left:
This is an immediate juxtaposition to the previous shots where Mike and Will are silhouetted together. In case you can't remember, silhouettes are meant to create a memorable image. So seeing this image where Mike is in the exact place he was, but this time without Will, is supposed to make the audience feel his absence in Mike's world. This shot is otherwise completely unnecessary.
How it Makes the Audience Feel: Does this image^ also make you feel deeply pained inside, even if you don't completely relate to Will's struggle in this season? Well, then it's a success for the writers! This scene's intention for the audience's takeaway cannot be more clear if it tried. You're not only supposed to feel terrible for Will, however, you're also supposed to root for the both of them to make up.
This is very unlike the Mileven breakup because the intention there was to root for El to break up with Mike, and feel happy for her once she's done it because Mike deserves it. However, in this scene, the lighting, the tone, the fact that they are both alone (despite Lucas being included in the prev argument), creates this intimately emotional moment that makes the audience feel pain instead of happiness. I mean, can it get any clearer?
The Aftermath: The two different aftermaths of these scenes are very different on both sides. They could not be more different if they tried. While El goes home, has fun, reads a magazine about another boy, calls Mike her 'first boyfriend', Will goes to Castle Byers, cries while reading a comic book and looking at pictures of him and his friends. The picture in particular is of the boys in their halloween costumes, which is the same day that Mike promises that they'll "go crazy together" (which symbolises love, hopefully you know that already). Will calls himself stupid, which is to say that he thinks he's stupid for thinking that those things could be any deeper than he thought they were back then.
Will then destroys Castle Byers, which symbolises him destroying the part of himself that he hates the most. After S4 canonised Will's feelings for Mike, this scene becomes more about his internalised homophobia manifesting itself. This is obviously a heartbreaking scene for so many audience members, and they obviously aren't rooting for Will to feel this pain. This is contrasted to the intention that we are supposed to be rooting for El's happiness without Mike, after seeing her happy with being with Max.
As for Mike, his reaction to the fight is super contrasting to the reaction to breaking up with El. With El, he has no idea where he went wrong. With Will, he instantly regrets what he says and says that he's been a jerk and is willing to apologise. With El, Mike takes the breakup less seriously and makes jokes with Lucas. With Will, he takes it way more seriously and bikes across town in the rain, bringing Lucas with him. Keep in mind this is from the same episode where Max promises El that Mike will come "crawling back to you", which ends up being proven wrong for her, but right for Will.
Throughout the show, we see that Mike has a hard time apologising and seeing where he has gone wrong. In season 1, Dustin has to force Mike to apologise to Lucas, and in s3, Lucas has to be the one to force Mike to apologise to El. With Will, Mike does not need encouraging, he does it on his own.
IN CONCLUSION: We, the audience, are supposed to feel both Mike and Will's pain during this argument. Mike clearly regrets everything he says due to his denial and confusion during S3, showing how much it hurts him to force himself to grow up. Mike sees where he has gone wrong and immediately is able to apologise. Will's reaction is the polar opposite of El's reaction, resulting in a self-destruction (in a metaphorical sense).
This post was my magnum opus. And broke my tumblr multiple times bc of its length so i hope ur happy with it <3
#byler#byler nation#byler endgame#mike wheeler#will byers#stranger things#byler evidence#byler proof#miwiheroes daily byler
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The way the fandom and writers treat Mel like this is why I absolutely adore Castlevania Nocturne (Spoiler ahead)
They ensured there was no other option for Richter to be in love with than Anette. Because best believe if Maria was 18+ years old (even despite seeing Richter as a sibling) she would 100% be shipped with Richter and people would find thousands of things wrong with Anette, even going as far to make up things to justify why her and Richter dont belong together.
Like its ok if a Black character isnt endgame (wether it be canon/fanon) but you dont have to place racist stereotypes (sassy,mean,rude,strong and independent, agressive) on them to justify your ship or a future romance.
You don’t have to deny the past relationship to justify your ship or a future romance. It’s apart of the characters story.
Lost in the meljay sauce rn, but I'm back to thinking about when people were really adamant that this picture Jayce drew was of Ximena and not Mel????
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the gwynriels that ship gwynriel not just for vibes but because they insist it is canon are in for a harsh awakening. We've known for years that elains book is being written and is next and Azriel is such an obvious love interest elriel have checked off most key aspects of a romantasy couple in the making (we even have a romantic rescue scene where the male li risks his life for her). But it seems many new readers who focus only on their selective reading of acosf took over the fandom in 2021 and started gaslighting everyone that gwynriel is real and elriel was never a thing. I'm an artist who used to make acotar content but the arrogance of especially these new readers is infuriating and has made me stop making any content for this fandom.
I used to feel bad that all these people will probably be very upset when elain and azriel are confirmed to be next. But i dont anymore. They did it to themselves. Four wasted years arguing over what was already obvious in front of their eyes. They have soured the fandom for everyone else. They have stubbornly and publically thrown a four year long tantrum with their eyes and ears covered, while yelling at everyone that their fanon is real and everyone else is delusional. It's so embarrassing i cringe to think about it. It will age worse than sour milk.
You know what I think it is? Between 2021 and 2024 - booktok popularised the “enemies to lovers” trope - 8/10 all the books being advertised, had that trope. As well as E&L, banter became really hyped up - when authors wanted to promote their book, you’ll notice they will almost always use banter scenes as that is what piqued readers interest. Along w this, other tropes such as the “sassy, badass fmc” “warrior fmc” “girlboss fmc” became popular and in demand by readers. Many antis jumped onto this train, probably consumed lots of books with these tropes therefore its reflected onto Gwynriel and Elucien as ships.
We’ve all seen their HCs, Lucien will bring out the “sass” and “fire” in Elain. Gwyn will be a badass and run her mouth off on Az which he will like etc. Both ships are filled with HCs that booktok popularised. I’ve said this so many times before - but I always think of elucien and gwynriel as lumps of warm clay. You can mold them to be whatever you want. Whatever dynamic, trope, story etc that intrigues you because they’re just not developed. They have no outline, no set dynamic that you’ll get with a canon, foreshadowed ship such as elriel. Antis have motives for shipping their ships, elriels don’t and thats another difference. Antis motives’ and biased lenses lead to them to different outcomes - 4 years later and still as a whole group, none of them are consistent with anything. Literally, can’t even decide- is it elucien next or gwynriel?. With elriels, we’ve all read the books as they should be read and came to the same conclusion. Hence why, elriels are more consistent with everything they put out.
Its so hilarious when newcomers or casual readers are so suprised to hear about Gwynriel. I mean, I thought it was some booktok cult at first- had no idea it was an actual ship. I think its funnier when gwynriels act so superior and list all the foreshadowing & “scenesl” they have only to be proven wrong by canon. Take Az rescuing Gwyn, the whole thing was romantacised. He carried Gwyn in his arms all the way to the library…when actually that was Mor. Az had left Gwyn to finish his job.
I dont have it in me to feel bad. Cause it was literally “in your face obvious” all along and as someone who was there from 2021, Gwynriel started due to Elain hate and Elucien’s main arguement for so long has always been about Elain needing to make Lucien happy as he deserves it. Yeah I can’t count the amount of times antis have given me second hand embarrassment. Some are ok. Others are just immature and entitled. I agree, the fandom increased in toxicity due to the shipwars which started because of Gwynriels/Eluciens. And not saying elriels are innocent, every side has bad stans but some antis have made the fandom unbearable. Seems like they crash out whenever Sjm posts something, they then get over it and crash out again. Its a tiring yet amusing cycle to watch from afar. I think when the announcement comes there will be silence at first from the antis before the new delusional takes begin.
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Character ask game for mod Owl: I was gonna ask about Smitten, but I'm sure someone else will do that-
So how about instead... tell me about Skeptic. That fluffy bird-
THE FLUFFIEST GUY EVER
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FAVORITE THING ABOUT THEM
I ABSOLUTELY ADORE HOW INTELLEGENT HE CAN BE, HOW HE CAN COME UP WITH A PRACTICAL PLAN THAT CAN HELP TLQ OUT AND MAKE IT WORK [including also whatever other voice was already there into his plan because im sure he knows he can't do this alone] BUT I ALSO LOOOOVE HOW DUMB HE CAN BE AS WELL AND NOT BECAUSE HES AN IDIOT BUT BECAUSE OF HIS DISTRUST OF OTHERS AND GETTING TOO MUCH IN HIS OWN HEAD THAT HE STARTS MISSING THE POINT OF WHAT THEYRE EVEN DOING, HE NEEDS ANSWERS NO MATTER THE COST, I LIKE TO THINK IF HE HAD SOMETHING LIKE RPG STATS HE WOULD HAVE THEM LIKE 20 INTELECT AND -2 WISDOM, HE HAS A HARD TIME JUDGING THE CHARACTER [in this case the princess] UNLESS HE CAN GUESS WHAT SHES TRYING TO DO, HE DOES CARE ABOUT THE PRINCESS, AFTER ALL HE CAME TO BE BY TRYING TO FREE HER BUT FOR HIM TRYING TO DECIPHER EVERYTHING THATS HAPPENING IN A LOGICAL MANNER COMES FIRST AND FOREMOST, ALSO I LOVE HOW HE CAN ADAPT AS WELL IF PUSHED ENOUGH BY OTHER VOICES, LIKE WHEN PARANOID TOLD HIM ABOUT THE SHACKLES BEING TO RUSTY AND HE GIVES IN INTO PARAS LOGIC, THE SAME WITH HERO IN THE DEN, HE CAN BELIEVE IN THIS HONESTLY ILLOGICAL THINGS BUT HE NEEDS A REASON TO BELIEVE, HE CAN'T JUMP INTO CONCLUSIONS WITHOUT QUESTIONING THEM ITS NOT IN HIS NATURE
LEAST FAVORITE THING ABOUT THEM
ERM.... ERM... ERM.............................. I DONT KNOW... I THINK MAYBE THE FACT THAT THE LINE WHERE HE SUGGEST GETTING THE HEAD OF THE PRISIONER AND BRINGING IT WITH THEM WAS CUT OUT AFTER PRISTINE CUT... BUT THATS NOT HIS FAULT HE WAS LOBOTOMIZED A BIT 💖
FAVORITE LINE
"Looks like we've seen through your lies at last, Mr. The Narrator. If that even is your real name." HES SO STUPID
BROtp
SMITTEN AND SKEPTIC ARE THE BROS OF BROS FOR ME, GREY BROTHERS MY BELOVED, SMITTEN HELPS OUT SKEPTIC TO UNDERSTAND OTHERS A BIT MORE AND DISCERNING HIS EMOTIONS A BIT BETTER, ALSO HELPING HIM OUT ON NOT GETTING FRUSTATED AS EASILY IF THINGS DONT GO HIS WAY AND SKEPTIC HELPS OUT SMITTEN TO THINK MORE ABOUT HIMSELF AND DOING THINGS FOR HIMSELF, NOT REVOLVING HIS LIFE AROUND THE PRINCESSES SO MUCH, AND THEN SMITTEN INVITES SKEPTIC TO A TEA PARTY AND THEY HAVE A GOOD TIME JUST HANGING OUT
OTP
IVE BEEN INFECTED WITH THE SKEPTUNIST AGENDA AND LET ME TELL U I THINK THEYRE... VERY CUTE TOGETHER ACTUALLY, SKEPTIC TRYING TO UNDERSTAND OPPORTUNIST MOTIVES WHILE OPPORTUNIST TRIES TO GET ON SKEPTICS GOOD SIDE AFTER ALL HAVING A SMARTY PANTS ON HIS SIDE WILL ALWAYS BE GOOD FOR ANY PLAN HE CAN COME UP WITH BUT SLOWLY THEY REALIZE THAT DAMN.... I KINDA ENJOY THE COMPANY OF THIS PERSON THE MORE I TRY TO GET CLOSER TO THEM, MAYBE THEY CAN EVEN BECOME PARTNERS IN CRIME....
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I ACTUALLY HAVENT SEEN THAT MANY SKEPTIC SHIPS SO I WOULDNT EVEN KNOW IF I HAD ONE LMAO
RANDOM HEADCANON
I THINK HE HAS ANGER ISSUES AS HES PRONE TO GET FRUSTRATED VERY EASILY, HE JUST HAS A CALMER WAY OF EXPRESSING IT BY TRYING TO LOGIC HIS WAY OUT OF IT BUT ITS HARDER WHEN HE ONLY FINDS DEAD ENDS, ALSO A HEADCANON FOR MY VERSION OF SKEPTIC IS THAT HE CAN FLY AT ALL BECAUSE OF THE POSITION OF HIS WINGS AND THAT HE NEEDS GLASSES TO ACTUALLY READ lol
UNPOPULAR OPINION
HAVENT LOOKED AT THE FANDOM LONG ENOUGH TO THINK OF THIS ONE, I HAVE NOT SEEN MANY PEOPLE TALKING BADLY ABOUT SKEP OR ATLEAST IN A WAY I FEEL LIKE IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE FOR ME LMAO
SONG I ASSOCIATE WITH THEM
GOLDEN NUMBER BY IYOWA [I PUT THE SUB VERSION BUT CHECK OUT THEIR OTHER SONGS IN THEIR MAIN CHANNEL THEYRE VERY GOOD, I ASSOCIATE THIS SONG TO HIM SPECIFICALLY THE LAST PART A LOT lol]
FAVORITE PICTURE OF THEM
SINCE YOU KNOW, THE VOICES DONT REALLY HAVE LIKE SET IMAGES OR DESIGN ILL JUST PULL FROM MY ART O21L3KR12R, U GET MY FAV PIC I DREW OF HIM
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Related to our latest posts + some other shorter ones!
thestarlightfae asked:
Hi Ryu! Hi Katsu! Do you two happen to have a timeline for Vil? By timeline, I mean which of his designs correspond with which ages. Thanks!
Hi hi!
It’s kind of vague, to be honest; the only thing that’s been concrete from the start in our posts is that younger Vil probably had shorter hair. And then we usually jump straight to the freshman!Vil, and with him I am kind of inconsistent; my earlier comics and drawings of him have him with pretty much the same hairstyle that he has now (w/o his bun and his crown though), but these days I draw him with shorter hair as well. For some reason, I like this better than freshman!Vil having very long hair…
I also like to think that Vil only started braiding his hair during his 3rd year at NRC, to give himself more of a regal matriarch look?? But that’s just an idea I’m playing with in my head. In fact, I think the best way to describe it would be to imagine Vil having all kinds of haircuts throughout the years because there is no way he wouldn’t want to play around with this. But what I think and what I draw are two different things…
It’s just like with Crewel. I want his younger self to experiment with hairstyles a lot, but always end up drawing the same one lol
Anonymous asked:
ive seen malleus depicted as a shota, i think thats my favorite of the cast to shotafy next to idia. your thoughts?
Honestly, all of them are great, ever since that one ask I keep thinking about shota versions as the next birthday cards theme, it would be so cool lol
But yeah, Malleus’ upbringing was very complicated, and he looks very cute when he is still clearly very young, but already has this air of a prince about him. Not to mention all the potential difficulties growing up as a little dragon ahem………… I think I draw him this way pretty often, but I should do it more lol
I also love drawing Vil and Ortho and the Tweels and Azul and Rook; I think those are the ones I draw the most. Oh! Sebek and Silver as well.
originalblossomer asked:
Hi! I love your art very much! In fact, I love it so much, I registered on Bluesky exclusively to see more of you. I just wanted to tell you how much I appreciate you. Lots of love!💗💗
Ahhh this is so sweet!! Thank you so much for your kindness!! I hope you keep enjoying my stuff, and I’ll sure as hell keep posting hehe.
Anonymous asked:
Hello! I have to say that, even if i don't really support some of your ideas/ships, i've to admit that your artwork it's simply gorgeous and they inspire me as an artist. My question is, is there any ship that it's just a big no? Or that you find overrated that it just doesn't have any appeal :0?
Thank you so much, Anon! I’m glad that my stuff could inspire you in any way, that’s very cool to hear.
I don’t want anyone to feel bad, so that’s just my personal opinion and I know people who like those pairings follow me, but I really really really don’t care for Leona/Vil and Trey/Jade. There are a lot of Leona ships in general that I don’t really care for, but somehow Leona/Vil squicks even more than Malleus/Leona does.
Anonymous asked:
dont know if this is unpopular but i dont care at all about grim. i love the boys and that's what im there for. grim is a forgettable mascot to me. interested to hear any other takes.
We didn’t really care for Grim at first too, but during our rewatch started to appreciate him more, to be honest. He is not all that bad, and he is kind of cute sometimes.
To be honest, I kind of forget that he and/or Yuu exist a lot of times lol But I like Grim! Especially when he lowers his ears all sadly…
Anonymous asked:
I really love how sharp you draw rook's eyes, very pretty ❤️
Ahh thank you so much!!! <3 I love drawing his eyes! Hehehe
Anonymous asked:
For twst who has piercings and where?
Actually replied here!
Now the art-related asks, starting with the ones about the ADeuce drawing from yesterday:
Anonymous asked:
It look so… peaceful, no sex or anything erotic, only two pal doing homework .… at 2 a.m ?!
Maybe this is why Ace looks so done… he had other plans, but Deuce’s been doing his homework for hours now… it’s so late already and it’s still not over lol
Anonymous asked:
Where the collar? Eh?
THAT’S WHY IT’S TAKING THIS LONG! Poor Deuce is just waiting for Ace to leave so he can put his collar on and finally focus!!
Wow, these two aren’t getting anywhere huh They have a long night ahead of them…
Anonymous asked:
What his skin make of, silicon?
Probably! Very soft one, very pleasant to the touch.
Anonymous asked:
Ortho and Vil are so cute <3 love this little interaction! Ortho has the squishiest cheeks for someone without actual cheeks
Thank you, Anon <3 Ortho absolutely does have the squishiest cheeks! Vil should poke them and squish them as a stress toy lol
Anonymous asked:
OHH RYYYYYYYUUU! That shota jackvil is so GOOD! 💚 and I'm really in love with the way you draw shota Vil 👀💚.
Thank you so much, Anon!! I am happy you like it! <3
Vil is a little charmer lol I love drawing him being a sassy little guy that doesn’t quite fit in with the ��normal” boys…
Anonymous asked:
I love how you draw azuls hair, It looks supper fluffy. Like if i were to touch it it would just spring back like memory foam type of fluff.
Thank you so much, Anon!! <3 I feel like I have good and bad days with Azul’s hair… so I am very happy it looks good!
The texture of the memory foam though, this is such a good way to describe it…
Anonymous asked:
Sometime, we don't need sex, just something wholesome like a nerd kiss a crystal star.
Facts.
It’s all about the contrasts…. For now this cute nerd can look wholesome in this outfit <3 For now.
Anonymous asked:
Those armpits.
I have serious problem
You’re not alone, Anon, the stargazer outfit is insane.
Anonymous asked:
That one hell goddess!!
If that was the goddess of Hell… I wouldn’t mind believing in it….
Anonymous asked:
There more you can kiss
This is why Idia didn’t go ask for those wishes in person, because people would start listing things that he can kiss.
Anonymous asked:
Mhmmm, pizza boy… i mean pizza. Yeah, pizza
The boy is also there! And he is waiting for his tip!
Anonymous asked:
*insert SpongeBob meme about the pizza here*
Also if that pizza isn't good, jade better be giving some other sort of food to make up for it.
Oh, he has some mushrooms in a bag in his pocket, do you want some? He wouldn’t mind sharing~
Anonymous asked:
After Lady Floyd we have Jade the delivery man
Anonymous asked:
Blessing us with fem tweels in separate accounts.. i can't thank you enough 🙏🏻
Thank you for appreciating the ladies, Anons <3 And Jade the delivery man lol
It was actually a coincidence, that Jade from the locked acc was supposed to be posted much earlier than that, but the timing ended up being perfect lol
I am glad you’re enjoying it!
Anonymous asked:
I don't know, Leona being too lazy to jerk off, yeah, that sounds so right to me... like so entirely correct...
I don't even have further thoughts on that, it's just like... yeah, that's true
(related to a reply from a week ago)
lol being lazy is art… not just anyone could get this lazy, you know…
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People be like "I dont see why people ship skk".
Ok? Maybe open your eyes??
#like you dont have to ship them or even like them#but to claim you dont see it and think everyone who likes them is delusional???#and to call it unrealistic and something that would never happen??? Ok???#sure I would care about realistic things in a show where a kid turns into a tiger and another shoved a building down a dragon's throat#yes the realism indeed#and i dont care if they will never be canon?????#if I cared about canon my gay ass would have withered away ages ago from the draught of any canon wlw content#and the whole appeal is how they fit together perfectly despite not being good for each other#I'm sorry if your taste in vanilla ships bore me to tears
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I hope u guys don't mind me posting these au doodles while I work on things ahaha
I also gave JD slightly longer hair in these doodles as a funny haha but I don't think it's funny anymore he looks genuinely good with his hair like that ahahaha I hope you're not mad at me for changing his au design a bit
#first of all ahem DONT TAG THIS AS SHIP OR WHATEVER!!! ILL THROW ROCKS AT YOU!!!!! BITCH!!!!!!!#troIlcest (or whatever you call yourselves idk) DONT TOUCH my SHIT! Ty :] anyways...#For context I like to hc that when he was younger Bruce would always have JD brush his hair#and like... whenever lil Bruce was upset it would help calm him down i think ahhauysgjiodk do u guys see the vision??#and since it's my au i can make reality whatever i want it to be sooooo :]#I like to imagine that it still helps Bruce calm down even tho they're older now.. Big bro brushing his lil bros hair to soothe him UUGH#Let JD be a good older brother pleeease#also gave JD flowers in his hair too bc he deserves them me thinks... Now him and Bruce are matching!!!#i dont have any specific flowers in mind for the ones in their hair i just picked a color for the flowers that looked pretty and ran with i#also saying it again i love love LOOOOVE the crayon tool in mspaint using it to make gradients is so!!!! UUUGHUHHH!!!! /pos#the pattern on JD's jacket fur will never be consistent shhhhh#trolls#trolls band together#john dory trolls#trolls john dory#bruce trolls#trolls bruce#beach bros au#cherris canvas#I made that last image btw#everytime i saw that screenshot of jd it made me think of the spongebob scene where its a pov of flats waking up#and the first thing he sees is spongebob waiting for him with flowers in his hand and smiling
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Some Transformers rarepairs that I like 👉👈
#some of them dont even have ship names so i have to MAKE MY OWN#my art#fanart#transformers#transformers animated#transformers idw#idw transformers#maccadam#blurr#swindle#swinblurr#blurrswin#bluestreak#jazz#bluejazz#...?#jazzstreak#rodimus prime#rodimus#rodiblurr#rodblurr#blurrmus... ok no that sounds ridiculous#slipstream#blackarachnia#sliparachnia#how do you like my ship names im so creative#hehehe
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Sooo I've been obsessed with this au for a few days now and I thought.. why not use my abilities for evil
These are the designs from the tf2 x Steven Universe au by @lenny-link drawn in Steven Universe's art style! Or my best attempt at it lol.
I think the best looking ones are spy, heavy and soldier :]
Close ups↓
Also here's just the background; it's the bg from the tf2 lineup as a SU background, I'm really proud of how it looks hsjdjd
I also HAD to draw Andalusite by @gracefireheart cus good god he has taken over my entire heart. He's truly everything. The myth the legend the icon the moment. Happy pride month.
I like giving him a receding hairline cus. medic(has hair) + heavy(bald) = less hair. mathematics. The first drawing is my puny amateurish attempt at Rebecca Sugar's beautiful doodle art style. (I think I nailed the face and hair tho hehe)
(Your drawings are what introduced me to this au, I love them sm- I really hope you'll like this!!) (p.s; sorry for giving him a boob window. I wasn't strong enough.)
Aaaand my own design for a medic and scout fusion, Tourmaline! They only really form him when they both feel like wreaking havoc. he's impulsive, inattentive, hyperactive, he has no self preservation, and he's low-key dumb. When his senses kick in is usually when they unfuse. He can't see for shit and has to constantly remind himself to put on his glasses
(scout and medic shitty lil bratty kid + uncle who enables them dynamic truthers rise up)
(I had so many ideas for things I wanted to post so I thought I'd just put it all in one place gsjdjd, I hope people won't mind :'] )
#tf2#steven universe#tf2 au#my art#please dont tag the last fusion as ship#Lenny-link I know you're currently inactive and I hope you're doing well#hope you see this when you come back I hope you'll like this :')) these designs were so fun to draw and translate into su's art style#I had a blast :DD <333#I had to mess with the designs a bit to give them the proportions of the gems they're based on#Or cus I wanted to add stuff :') like making spy look more like a zircon cus I'm still living for their designs#or giving sniper rutile half shoes cus I think he'll like them#Btw did you know that the rutile twins in su are voiced by Ms Pauline's voice actress (Ashly Burch)? Small world#I referenced jasper for medics smile. She is smug and evil after all.#This au revived my will to draw. I would've even animated an idea I have if I had more time
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You ever just see a Mouthwashing take that makes you want to bang your head into a wall? I literally just saw someone claim Curly couldn't have been emotionally abused by Jimmy before the crash because he was in a higher position of power than Jimmy.
-Shrimp Anon
The mouthwashing fandom has shown me that people genuinely do believe that certain types of abuse are not as detrimental as other types especially when they deem those immune/resistant, ergo, believing one is objectively worse no matter how it affects the person nor the intersections of power, history and dynamics at play.
Get ready cause this is a yap session:
Cause like it's heavily implied that Curly and Jimmy's friendship was toxic and abusive, pointedly in the direction of how Jimmy uses Curly's belief/comfort in him. Curly wasn't forced to enable Jimmy but he was emotional and mentally on edge around him in almost every scene in some way. Mental and emotional abuse are not contingent on what positions you have at work. Yeah, he's Jimmy's boss but he was Jimmy's friend first and it's like getting into Psych discussion to talk about how social power tends to overshadow any perceived organizational power in the human mind. People are concerned about their jobs ofc but they tend to hang onto and put more value/investment into their personal relationships, hence why there tends to be laws and restrictions around mixing the two.
I always see the sentiments that "Curly is a grown ass man", "Curly is bigger than Jimmy", "Curly is Jimmy's boss", "He just needed a backbone" as criticisms of Curly and while I do agree that on the surface level all of these to be true and viable ways Curly could've taken more control of the situation, I often look at the parallels of Anya and Curly as victims of Jimmy pre/post crash.
The way Jimmy talks to Anya post crash is how he talked to Curly in the pre-crash segments. It's hard to pin-point mainly because we know he hates and wants nothing to do with Anya compared to his contrary but similarly handled obsessions with Curly. It's a weird sort of "honey-moon" effect of abuse Jimmy does in terms of emotional and mental victimization. He is always horrid to Anya, always talking down or questioning her abilities and thoughts in a situation, this of course includes the harassment and assault. However, he has a moment of attempted gentleness/conditioning when he question her about the mouthwash when she's contemplating drinking it at the table. The key difference is he has no personal investment in Jimmy outside wanting nothing to do with him, meaning there is no sort of romanticized version of him that he can condition her off of. He knows this, hence, why he always reverts to trying to make her to scared to oppose him.
This sort of give and take of "kindness" doesn't work on her because she knows he is just doing it to take more from her than whatever he could possibly give but it reflects even the "softer" scenes between him and Curly where he always rewords or rephrases Curly's sentiments and concerns to sound more shallow. He is feigning a deeper understanding by reworking Curly's emotions into something bad and needing to be hidden. Everything is laced with envy and resentment, an outburst just around the corner, I mean he even slams the table in the birthday party scene, a tactic in emotional manipulation to set the victim on edge and cloud their ability to respond. Even if Curly knows Jimmy won't get physical in that moment, the physical actions is intended to make him back down in the confrontation in case it does. This is something that is just not person specific. It ingrains itself into how you interact with the world and life and it shows in major and minor ways with Curly.
Post-crash, the abusive nature is more in tandem to the physical victimization Anya went through and the stripping of voice and autonomy we see take place. Like the parasite in HFIM, Jimmy speaks for Curly most of the time and puts words in his mouth, similarly to how he takes Anya's plans as his own. He very commonly, with the both of them mind you, supplements the worst aspects of himself into them; pettiness, selfishness, lack of understanding... And tries to cover himself with their best qualities; kindness, planning, initiative, etc...
These parallel are just to say that positional power has little to do with if a person can be abused and how it can even be flipped to further the abuse. There is no doubt that Curly could've picked up on Jimmy's envy of his position hence another reason he never confronted him as a Captain but as a friend as doing so would immediately put Jimmy in a space to be confrontational/combative.
I think the disdain some people have when they talk about the heavily implied if not implicitly stated emotional/mental abuse Curly experienced being Jimmy's friend is when treating it as an excuse to why he didn't do more. I can understand that completely because it is not an excuse to why he didn't do more but is a very real reason people in his position in these scenarios can experience whether in the context of a work or social environment. However, I also think the way people talk about it really does demonstrate a bigger problem when talking about abuse when somehow who is/was abused is either part of the issue or enabled it.
Harkening back to the sentiments about Curly's inaction regarding Jimmy, I think the exact phrases I used/have seen show how there is an inherent belief that it is easier to overpower the effects of emotional/mental abuse that go in tandem with the perception of Curly as someone who should be able to. There is not an age you suddenly stop being susceptible to abuse nor a set point or low where you realize how it has affected you. You don't suddenly know to stand up or put a face on to face your abuser nor admit that you inadvertently enabled them to subjugate someone else to the same treatment. Maybe it's my psych brain but their is this growing belief that direct action is somehow easy or always the best method with the game shows you instances where it is not always the case. In real life that rings true too. He should have done more, but it's not impossible to see why he struggled to find a way or didn't even if it makes us mad.
It's not easy to suddenly gain a "back-bone". You don't immediately want to resort to aggression, especially if it mirrors the type you were a victim to. You don't want to believe you allowed yourself to be treated this bad, let it get that bad or allowed something bad to happen to someone else. It is easy to be in denial, to retreat to your thoughts or make excuses to avoid the painful truth. It's frustrating but in a way we know is relatable. It why we both hate and love Curly for it. We know we'd be better, we think we'd be better, we like to think we wouldn't falter in the same ways but it's always easier to say that from the outside looking in. It's easy to see what he was doing wrong because we are seeing it, not him, but the game really does make you picture what you would do if this was your raw reality and it's why this debate about Curly seems so never ending/contradictory. We can all say what we'd do but bottom line is that's much different when you're in the moment with all the emotions and human feelings attached.
I personally think Mouthwashing tackles the themes of rape culture, enabling, toxic masculinity, types of abuse and patriarchy in ways that are meant to deconstruct the typical straightforward views we mostly have of these concepts and how little subtilities of them are just as, if not more, detrimental than the overt/obvious parts. The game deals with the idea of little details and bigger picture in a way to show that sometimes the bigger picture is not the issue but the little details that make it up. It's why I have a personal dislike of depictions of Jimmy as the typical horrible person who would of course do something like this because the game is about noticing the little warning signs, the foreshadowing and foresight.
It's why I dislike the typical discussion of "bro code" and "boys will be boys" for the game because the game makes a point to avoid the standard depictions of such. It is about the type of men who still enable despite not condoning, agreeing or even perpetuating harmful beliefs because they can't see the little details or the ways it seeps into their everyday. The severity is not obvious to them as it was not obvious to Curly, Swansea or even Daisuke the way it was to a woman like Anya. There are little details about Jimmy that should ring alarms but if you are too naive like Daisuke, too distant like Swansea or too conditioned like Curly, they are just off markers.
There is 100% more constructive/concise ways to say "Curly was a victim of Jimmy's abuse on an emotional and mental aspect that clouded his judgements and perceptions in the scenario" while also critiquing on the side of "Curly still had a responsibility to protect Anya as a crew mate and Captain that he failed to do due to biases and stigma's he failed to surpass" without the weird condemnation people give him about should've knowing better than to let himself be manipulated by a person he considered a close, if not family/best-friend and had his own reasons to trust initially. Also stop being weird about victims of abuse in general with this fandom, like sorry not everyone has a like social epiphany the moment someone's nasty to them. People are treating it like you immediately know when you are in a toxic relationship immediately or comprehend when a person is actively dangerous and either it's your fault for not knowing how to leave/cut them off or you deserve it. Like the hypocrisy of people believing how certain fans treat the story reflect their irl views but not their own is crazy.
End statement is: I honestly don't even know man, I've been writing this too long and just like no man on that ship was perfect or really helped Anya when it mattered and I feel like pitting them against each other in discussion on who did the least or most or how it was justified sucks cause in the end Anya always did the most and best thing for herself.
#i also think it is because mouthwashing is first and foremost a game about rape culture and the patriarchy especially in work spaces#regarding women and centering conversation around Curly a man rubs people wrong because it does overshadow that commentary#but it still mixes other topics into its initial theming and message on how abuse conditions you to accept certain things that are harmful#and how getting used to a culture/enviornment does not mean you are happy healthy or most importantly safe in it. I personally like to#explore those aspects where it mixes all the themes so we can discuss the ways you have to watch out for things because there is a differen#in the idea Curly enabled Jimmy just because they were bros and because he was an example of another man afraid to step out from what#is a still oppressive system that does try to punish those who act against it even if they fall in the category of those who would benefit#from it as Jimmy and PE 100% represent that sort of misogynistic system where men that would be “good” are altered until they follow line#in a way both on the personal and professional level as PE is the corporate lock out and Jimmy represents the social and its just the issue#that the discussion of it sounds like “in defense of men” when I am more so trying to discuss how it is much deeper than men being scared t#upset other men but complacency is rewarded by not becoming another person subjugated hence as all the moments Curly does try to do#something we can tie it back to how Jimmy reacts and a possible penality from PE where we now need to address the ways to combat those#two concepts so we dont get cases like Curly or Daisuke or Swansea where male avoidance of the issue is considered neutral or even good.#i think most of this boils down the perfect victim mentality to where if someone who underwent or is being abused is not a perfect example#or accpetible type than their abuse can not be considered a valid or substantial reason for effects on their behavior compounded with the#fact that Anya's abuse at the hands of Jimmy is a systematic issue that Curly is a part of even if unwillingly and was more physically#violating and topical cause sometimes i have to remind myself that all media is still critiqued through the lens of the culture it came out#in cause i do think about what if this game came out inlike 2014 like the conversations would be sooooooo different could you imagine it?#but back the before statement Curly isn't perfect but I feel like boiling it down if hes a good person or man is not the point of the game#but more so good people can still be part of the problem and the idea of condemning a person for one act creates a false sense of#rightouesness and justice that does not aid the victim and in fact aids the abusers in escaping blame for their mulitple behaviors as we se#how the men on the ship tend to blame Jimmy for just one act against them including himself while there is a plethora of things Anya is#concerned about with Jimmy#and its not that Curly just made one mistake with Jimmy but more so we consider his actions more damning because he didn't stop Jimmy#instead of focusing on the fact Jimmy did what he did regardless of Curly and the consequence because we already know he's bad n maladjuste#which is problem in the conversation where the individuals are blamed but the system and perputrator are overlooked in a sense of acceptiab#complacency as we know how they are and the lack of tangibility to personally affect them on a larger scale like I should just make a post#on like cutting out the face when it comes it confronting systems of oppression rather than tag talking but just ask me to clarify if#you want that like im jus trying to say we avoid talking about Jimmy and PE so much cause it is obvious what they do wrong that we make#the initial and inherent problem out to be one aspect someone in this case Curly does and the the constraints they use to force actions
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Look I´m a full believer that you should ship what you want and not harass others for their ships BUT
Lately on the Sauron/Mairon tag I´ve seen some people say he wouldn´t be interested in men!??!? Like I´m sorry to break it to you but he literally saw the most beautiful woman to ever exist and instead of thinking about his own desires he instantly thought "my boss would be so proud of me if I gave her to him."
WHAT´S NOT GAY ABOUT THAT CREATURE!?!??!?
Also on a smaller note the few posts that say Sauron could NEVER be gay are literally calling people weird for shipping him with men?? So, could we please just go back to shipping the mass murder with who we want to and stop bothering others with who they ship him with?? No?
So ship who you want and have fun, talk with those who ship the same and all that, but don´t go in and accuse others for having the wrong ship :)
EDIT: just to make sure everyone understands I DON´T IN ANY WAY SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO POLICE SHIPS OR SHAME PEOPLE FOR THEIR SHIP OR ACCUSING THEM OF NOT FOLLOWING CANON ETC ship who you want and don´t bother people who have another ship and try to "teach" them about your ship if they don´t ask for it.
#go enjoy the show for all i care but pleeeaaassseee dont act as if its canon#and you know it would be better if it was only tagged the show but over half of those posts where tagged as silm#and that is very very confusing to me as it wasnt relevant to the books only the show#tolkien#silmarillion#sauron#mairon#angbang#because that was what the whole luthien thing was about 🙃#to make melkor happy right?#lotr#thats what i love with tolkiens books#a lot of the ships are up to you and how you read the characters#but even if you dont read them as a ship that doesnt take their queerness or friendship away :)#also the ship people are pushing on him makes no sense in the books??#like it clearly does in the show and those who like it should enjoy it#but its just so double moral of them to tell others usually book readers that their ship based on canon is wrong#on that note i would like to say i love shipping people in books who have never meet
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if you unironically think "proshippers made the selfship community", I will banish you to the dumbass dimension for all eternity.
#monthly rent lowering shots#but genuinely this statement is so fucking dumb#+ the argument of “fiction doesnt affect reality” COMPLETELY falls apart if you selfship#like this FICTION is affecting YOUR REALITY. YOU HAVE THEM AS A F/O. YOU THINK OF IT AS A IRL RELATIONSHIP#GET OVER YOURSELF#even IF proshippers made this community#so what#im still allowed to think youre weird and make my own space that dont have you#its like a appeal to authority EXCEPT YOU HAVE NO AUTHORITY#selfship#proships dni#[just me yapping]#self ship community#self ship#ok to rb#[discourse talk]
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Anti's come up with so-called parallels of TOG where pairings weren't endgame but deny all the parallels Elriel has with canon pairings like Nessian (bonus ch. Similarities)
They only actually care about these parallels when it benefits them and the double standard is showing... just sayin
Genuinely speaking. What parallels does Gwynriel or Elucien even have to other couples? In any series?
The spark for gwynriel isn’t actually a parallel to “spark” being used between mates - I’ve already disproved that one. And there’s honestly nothing else to Gwynriel that parallels them to other couples, I know antis use the scene between Bryce and Hunt, how Hunt felt settled and calmed w Bryce just like Az felt w Gwyn but even Nesta felt calm after meeting with Gwyn. She has that affect on people,. In fact - I know I already mentioned this but Gwyn x Az parallels Nesta x Gwyn.
As for elucien…I literally cannot think of anything. They dont even have that enemies to lovers parallel bcs Elain doesn’t hate or show/feel any animosity towards Lucien. It’s literally plain disinterest which is worse.
Whereas w elriel there are so many, canon parallels. To ignore or “disprove” them just shows how antis are acting purposely oblivious…or delusional.
We already know antis nit pick the text to find whatever they can twist - by taking it out of context - to fit their anti elriel agenda. Some even use elriel quotes for their ships which is just plain embarrassing tbh. But thats what happens when you try to make a crackship happen.
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thinking about saiura
#my art#saiki k#tdlosk#saiki no psi nan#the disastrous life of saiki k#saiki kusuo#aiura mikoto#mikosai#saiura#i like them as friends more often but...an impulse came over me idk what happened . ..#i got an anon a couple days ago saying they liked my mikosai arts even tho i . didnt mean for those 2 be ship arts#so this one goes out to you#usually i dont like it when ppl tag my stuff as ship but i had a change of heart#(btw those other arts are still intended as platonic/ friendship stuff but i'm making an exception just this once)#anyway. no one probably wanted to listen 2 all that but yeagh#more recent art but not really. i really tried to do like have a bunch of arts on queue type deal but it didnt work . like at all.#anyway peace and love
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