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Trobed is very “Can I have this dance” from high school musical 3 coded
#trobed#Troy and abed#like with Troy leaving and all#troy barnes#abed nadir#community tv#community#nbc community#high school musical#hsm 3#can i have this dance#Spotify
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paris of troy! during those years he was a shepherd.
I was reading cartledge's book on thebes and every now and then the spartan focuses wrt to the pantheon of gods comes up. sparta has nothing to do with this except for where it does, but apollo karneios was discussed and that got my attention, which circled back to paris, and then I started thinking about the paris + apollo link
I also started thinking about narrative rejections bc paris has a funky absence in the iliad that's giving a kind of...a vibe. your parents shouldn't have had you, the story doesn't want you around, but oh boy are you there anyway, manifested into existence. no matter what, doom must manifest in flesh form. it's a narrative necessity, the actual incident (the judgement) is secondary.
The Judgement of Paris in Later Byzantine Literature, E. M. Jeffreys
weird! love it! almost (but not quite) reminds me of troilos' murder at achilles' hands lurking in the guts of the iliad. it's there, even when it's not. more importantly tho: sheep. I miss working on a farm with sheep and goats and cows and--
#a lot of the early stuff with paris reminds me of geta of roman emperor fame tbh like goddamn what the hell is going ON there#anyway. last year i wrote the script for a comic about paris and what it means to get body hijacked by a plot older than you#very oedipus to be absolutely damned by all forces before you were born. which also means i can make this about thebes. and if#i can make it about thebes then it's ALSO about rome bc rome and thebes are sister cities#christ i'd love to find the time to actually draw it#ancient greece tag#<< eventually going to update the previous greece tag to all fit under this one. eventually. some day#god. anyway. 'readers are given no reason for his vehement insistence on leaving troy' aughGHGHHHHHHHH#drawing tag
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Honestly a bit ridiculous that the Titans split up when eating at a restaurant because they didn't want to draw as much attention to themselves. Like I don't think it's going to make that much of a difference when you've got someone with golden skin and fiery red hair at one table while a green dude and a cyborg sit at a table diagonal to her.
If anything, it seems more suspicious that the Titans aren't eating together. I feel like it would just start rumors that the Titans don't get along with each other, or they're only friendly with certain members.
TNTT (Vol. 2) #36
#raven is like i will kms if i have to sit next to dick and kory being lovey dovey#so like understandable for her to be happy to sit at a different table at least alskjda#but fans of gar literally came up to him at the restaurant#and then all the titans had to leave together anyway bc they got a call#so like ?? just sit together ??#Dick Grayson#Donna Troy#Joey Wilson#Koriand'r#Gar Logan#Vic Stone#Raven
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ody being dragged to the river of fire at the end of no longer you to directly foreshadow what happens at the end of odysseus what if i make myself SICK.
#would u all believe this fire thing started bc without visuals i thought he truly was burning the suitors alive at the end of odysseus#no bc fire being a subtle theme throughout it all has me......#even the “then 600 men can make this whole place burn” line bro#and yknow obviously him leaving troy in flames too#and if you squint the end of his cloak looks like upsidedown fire-#OKAY I SHOULD STOP TRULY.#ODYSSEUS. / posts.#OOC.
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I drew Paris not smiling within Helen's proximity for once because he's focusing (something something they're lost in each other's eyes).
Inspired by that one greek vase where they're practically touching nose to nose

also you get a close up because you clicked on the read more :) <3
#paris of troy#helen of sparta#paris and helen#greek myth art#I really like this sketch so maybe at some point I'll do something with it.#me: I want to make some thematically poignant art with these characters. maybe some short comics to explore those ideas.#also me: *proceeds to draw more fluffy art instead* them 🥺🥺🥺 wh what if they embraced each other? and looked at each other??#see what happens is every time I see paris slander on here I make more positive paris art to counterbalance it. out of spite 😤#be the change you want to see in the world or something like that. mwah soft paris and helen affection be upon ye 💜#headcanon: I can imagine them nuzzling their noses together + helen doing that little head turn courtship thing swans do w/ their partner 🥺#also. I debated whether to leave (whats left of) the delta tattoo in this piece but I ultimately decided to keep it.#he's made an attempt at removing it himself :') sorry to drop an angst bombshell in the middle of all the fluff it wasn't intentional#makes me realise I've never actually drawn him with his right arm exposed huh. anyways headcanon body markings be upon ye too.#capri_art
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donna troy, kyle rayner, jason todd trio run when???
#countdown to final crisis is insane actually#*trixie mattel voice* well this comic had everything#homoerotic (tragic) buddy plot with pied piper and trickster#two bickering idiots and the woman who’s unjustly forced to keep them from ripping out each other’s throats#little character backstory descriptions at the ends of issues#vampires shazam fuckery an evil justice league and a hero joker#some of the stupidest plot points i’ve ever seen#and of course the multiverse#but also dude#whose idea was it to have donna troy kyle rayner and jason todd at the center of it all?#honestly hats off to them because what an interesting and hilarious dynamic#absolutely living for the way jason and kyle immediately despise each other and donna patently refuses to deal with that shit#yeah i know kyle mostly hates jason based on the false suspicion that he has feelings for donna#and jason does split the second things start to get too complicated honestly i get that i’d probably leave too the multiverse is A Lot#but the three of them kinda start to care about each other by the end or at least learn to work cohesively as a team#what i wouldn’t do to have that dynamic explored more#see them just casually dropping in on each other like hey we traversed the multiverse for a couple months once how ya doing crisis buddy#getting entangled in each other’s work because they’re all curious (nosy) by nature and love to be annoying#and don’t get me wrong i think their wild after-school-detention-i’m-stuck-with-these-idiots vibe is funny#but i think there’s also some potential in there for them to really confide in each other#especially because donna’s kind of the connecting link between two otherwise mostly unconnected people she happens to care deeply about#idk just make them do a heist together make them go undercover make them fight a giant snot monster i don’t care just PLEASE#countdown to final crisis#donna troy#troia#kyle rayner#green lantern#jason todd#red hood#dc
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The math remains on our side in terms of cap space. We could sign all three at their current asking prices and still have 60k left over to sign free agents.
#waiting always kills us. the market resets. the numbers get bigger. we drag our feet. the cycle continues.#but we can only hope they realize that they have the money. that they don't need to “win” every negotiation.#and the thing is. all those numbers from ari are obviously from the agents. they are starting the negotiations high.#bengals are starting low. ideally they will meet in the middle.#have also heard theories on twitter that the asking prices are high because the bengals are#once again. trying to lowball guarantees in terms of money and years.#which i'd buy. the aapy was there for ja'marr last year. the guarantees weren't.#they are so so risk averse. they hate dead money. fuck duke bragged about how little dead money they have a week ago.#it's okay to have dead money. it's okay to bet on players who you KNOW have value.#if they can just get that through their skulls...#and they don't even have to do big guarantees on all players if they don't want to#but you do them on the special players like tee ja'marr and trey#they've done it on joe#but as amazing as joe is. he can't do it alone.#the teams that are winning are the teams that are helping their QBs by paying their other stars#duke troy and katie. i need you to understand this. i need you to understand that in being so risk averse#you're actually risking the biggest thing of all. which is joe.#he leaves. all the fans are following him.#so! there's that!#cincinnati bengals
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Donna takes issue with dick leaving her to take care of people (titans #46)
#damn#that’s not how I read it at ALL#I was like oh obviously he’s gunna leave her with the vulnerable people#she’s strong as fuck#she probably has the best chance against a spontanious army decisions to attack#and miss girl can fly them both away if it’s too much#dick and Donna#dick grayson#leader dick#dick and titans#dc#nightwing#Donna Troy#titans
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I'm thinking about an AU where like...Ody picks up a feral kid from an island who stows away on the ship. It'd be good to get some whimsy on that ship and maybe things go better. Hope Penelope doesn't mind an extra kid + Telemachus having a wild child of a little sibling now. Very overly enthusiastic, half the crew is terrified, other half is like "yeah the kid has good survival technique ideas." Ody is like, "please stop gleefully mopping the bloodied castle" after kid decides to be helpful. Proceeds to kick a suitors head out of the hallway so OdyPen can walk around together peacefully.
excuse you, that child is helping!!! Ody, Telemachus, and Penelope are reuniting and tired and this child, out of the goodness of their heart is cleaning the palace (with aid of course) 😤
they don’t need to bc by that point their an official ward of the palace, but it the thought that counts (they totally loot the suitor’s stuff in the process)
#but yeah Ody and his men having a child along for their trip would be so fun!#(and why i still daydream about what if Ody didn’t throw the infant from the wall of Troy)#you’d have Polites spoiling them while Eurylochus is now calculating rations for 600 men + child. what to entertain them bc space is small#Ody daydreaming about Telemachus (imma say he projects some of his desires of being the dad he wanted to be sans Troy on the kid)#and i am already team big brother Telemachus so when Ody arrives with a kid Telemachus is so onboard bc now HE gets to tell#the kiddo tales and play with them and educate them about Ithaca (they have been given a rundown by the crew but the kid indulges)#Penelope is apprehensive at first bc it’s definitely not HER kid but it does not look like Ody#and she knows her husband inside and out#so after the apprehension is appeased Penelope is onboard for a new kid#she knows how lonely her son was I. Those years they waited for their missing family to return#(and sure we can speculate over whether or not the kid can get past Zeus’s Lightning bolt but imma ignore that for now)#(we will all assume the kid just survives it all and is there with Ody even if other crew members aren’t)#asks#epic the musical#the odyssey#(actually wait what if the kid was from Calypso’s island? 👀 washed ashore long ago and stayed bc Calypso refused to let them go)#(she projects her dreams of caring for another at the corner of the child ever growing/aging. they have been a child for so long)#(a blessing and curse. they do not envy Calypso’s difference of affection for Ody. but they do not refuse when offered a chance to leave)
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Lukewarm take but, even if Penelope wasn't legendarily faithful to her husband....she didn't exactly have a lot of attractive choices did she? I mean, what did the suitos do to convince anyone they would be decent at ruling? Park themselves in her halls and literally eat the kingdom out of house and home and openly plot to murder her son?
Even if I was in the market for a new (young) husband, with these options I would also lock myself up in my chambers and see how long these idiots think it takes to weave a burial shroud.
#penelope#the odyssey#all jokes aside#I wonder if#the situation with the suitors#is partially caused by probably#the entire generation or two above them#leaving with Odysseus#for Troy#presumably not EVERYONE left#but there was likely a power vacuum#and the suitor situation has been going on for at least three years#when Odysseus gets back#meaning they started camping in his living room#shortly before Telemachus came off age#and could have theoretically been crowned#in his father's absence
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Character ask questions 21 and 25 for Patroclus?
21. If you're a fic writer and have written for this character, what's your favorite thing to do when you're writing for this character? What's something you don't like?
The voice I write with for him is based heavily on Hades game, so my favorite thing about writing him is the sarcasm and depression he speaks with. It's very fun to write from the perspective of someone so bitter.
Least favorite thing at the moment is that I've written soooo much Patroclus, recently I feel like everything I do is repetitive. I am treading the same ground again and again. Stale.
My other least favorite thing about him is how people get so pissy about the various adaptations. He's a beast! He's a soft boi! He's an unreliable narrator! blah blah. I just don't think it's worth getting territorial over.
25. What was your first impression of this character? How about now?
I first meaningfully encountered Achilles and Patroclus in Hades game, and weirdly they left almost no impression on me on my first playthrough. I specifically remember a friend asking me if I wanted to write fic about them, and I was like, I never think about them at all. I fell deep into a ThanZag hole and barely even noticed Achilles was there, much less the sexy eeyore up in Elysium.
It wasn't until I wrote Void a couple months into my Hades obsession (and I would have finished reading tsoa at that point and started the Iliad) that I really warmed up to Patroclus. Void has like 15 POVs in it, and his was one of my favorites to write, which surprised me at the time. I became absolutely addicted to his POV after that.
#the only correct Patroclus is the one you have in your head#except for the creators of Troy they were wrong about him and also literally everyone else#I mean also there is the theory that Homer invented Patroclus for the Iliad so like#anything not in the Iliad is not technically “canon”#so that goes for everyone wringing their hands about the cousins thing#literally I don't care about them being cousins but it's not mentioned in the iliad whatsoever so like idk why everyone takes it as gospel#anyway!!#we are all picking and choosing which parts of the canon and teh adaptations and the other random myths feel true to us#it's whatever#actually I think I just realized I've interpreted question 21 incorrectly#I did mention the migraine right lmao#oh well!!! leaving it!!!!
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i relate to Abed not because of the autism (that too actually) but even more so because I'm so in love with Troy
#community#trobed#i cried so hard in geothermal escapism when he left. babygirl don't leave me please this show isn't the same without you#Troy may just be my favorite character. like Abed is close but. ugh we all need a Troy Barnes in our life i think
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the bridge of down bad is so trobed from troys pov tbh
it especially makes me think of 'sometimes i think im a killer' by r3medialcha8s
#I LOVED YOUR HOSTIKE TAKEOVERS#ENCOUNTERS CLOSER AND CLOSER#ALL YOUR INDECENT EXPOSURES#HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT ITS#I'LL BUILD YOU A FORT. ON SOME PLANET#WHERE THEY CAN ALL. UNDERSTAND. IT.#HOW DARE YOU THINK ITS ROMANTIC#LEAVING ME SAFE AND STRANDED#but the rest of the song feels like abeds pov#bcs well#down bad like i lost my twin#down bad WAVING AT THE SHIP.#alex says shit#troy barnes#community#nbc community#abed nadir#trobed#troy and abed#for a moment i knew cosmic love :(#taylor swift#down bad#the tortured poets department#ttpd
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my friends and i have been watching the star trek movies and i have soooo many thoughts about first contact but its been like 3 years since i watched the borg episodes in tng and im like. fuck do i need to rewatch those rq to figure out if my faint gripe with first contact is valid or not? shit, man
#star trek blogging#cause the movie deliberately reframes picard's locutus incident because it needs to retcon in the borg queen#and nothing it says about the incident as a physical event is. incorrect per se. theyve been pretty careful#but IIRC they've changed the motivations for the borg to have handled it like they did#they didnt pick picard because he was like. specialist boy in the world. its because hes a negotiator and available#hes a respected human face they can use to ease their conquest. he'll be assimilated once earth is finished#hes only augmented superficially because they need him to appear human#they want humanity to see locutus and see a face they trust. its all a lie. a facade. an image plastered atop the borg framework#and the movie makes it about picard being an intellectual equal to the borg queen and this whole dynamic and its like ? uhuh#sort of points towards the mythologising of picard that leads us to Star Trek Picard#which i havent seen but am conceptually against because star trek shouldnt be about Great Men. about singular figures#its about The Enterprise. its about the ideals the ship upholds. the crew who work in service to it#the different people who transport into its hold and the impact they make together on the world#its not about one man! humanity didnt defeat the borg because picards special. they beat the borg because the enterprise fought together#because the crew looked at the situation and said 'we will not leave a man behind' and bent all odds to make it so#its about teamwork! its not about one bald guy!#and because picard and kirk in particular are the ~stars~ of probably the more well regarded series' overall#they just. are elevated and its like my man#kirk couldnt have done shit without scotty in engineering 'giving her all shes got'#picard couldnt do shit without riker's support or data's knowledge or troi's empathy#like you know what i mean? its not about the one guy.#blargle blargle#i mean tng has a general problem with giving picard and data too much sotlight because theyre exceptionally good actors#and thats a whole other proble and im not getting into it. aaarugh
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community enjoyers of tumblr reblog w ur (current) top 3 episodes & why u love them
#🫀#community#community nbc#abed nadir#troy barnes#jeff winger#britta perry#annie edison#shirley bennett#p***** h********#1. remedial chaos theory#ITS JUST SO GOOD!!!!!!!!!! trobed being a married ass couple hosting a dinner party#the six timelines bcs jeff doesnt wanna get the pizza and each time someone leaves we learn smth about the apartment culminating to the#darkest timeline#and we as the audience recognize each part and how they serve in relation to each other to put it quite bluntly -- absolutely fuck shit up#ends w them all dancing and happy which is cute but also gives us the insight that theyd be fine without jeff#TROY EATING THE CIGARETTE AS BRITTA TRIES TO LIGHT IT#WHAT DOES A PREGNANCY TEST LOOK LIKE#a+ episode#a study in what each character leaving means (through a lens of abed. which explains troys departure for like 2 minutes to get pizza.#codependent ass. u guys are gay)#i love this episode sm GOD#epidemiology#HALLOWEEN EPISODE AND MY GOD IS IT GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!#WE HAVE THE TROBED I LOVE YOU I KNOW#THEIR DORKY ASS COSTUMES IT WAS SO CUTE I ADORE THEM SM. PLS BE NERDS FOR EVER#me retracting that statement 2 mins later because um. donald glover has a nice torso. choose gay abed#abed 🥺 we're friends 🥺#i like to think troy went thru the stuff of revelation in like 0.0004328492 seconds when he realized shit fuck abed was dying#advanced d&d bcs its funny as fuck. im running out of tags see: hector the well endowed & the elf maiden
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There's normal people there's insane people and then there's people who memorise one (1) character half of the Trobed 101 rap just INCASE they ever meet their other half via impromptu public community reference
#there is SOMEONE out there learning troy's part I just know it#leave me to my insane fantasies. I'm in generic chain coffee shop wearing my troy and abed shirt when suddenly from in front of me in the l#-ine i hear it. 'donde esta la biblioteca '#my heart lights up. i look at my soulmate like it's the first time I'm ever looking at a person. and for the first time ever my 'it's 2009'#is immediately answered with 'word'. the barista claps. the rest of the line claps. a pride parade stops to look in from the window. all is#right in the world#alexprobablytalksshit#community#trobed
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