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#supernatural#jared paladecki#i need to dissect his brain and figure out why tf he retweeted this#like did he mean to send it to jensen and misha??#was this him trying to be an ally??#SO MANY QUESTIONS ABSVS
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Debunking Nonsense Against Jared
There's apparently some crap about Jared that is just absolute nonsense. Full of lies and bullshit.
It'd be one thing if people just didn't like him. It happens. Not everyone is likeable. You're not expected to like him. But don't pull up lies to explain why you don't like him. Especially when they've been debunked again and again and again.
1. The "racist" tattoo. Y'all, this is nonsense. It's been debunked over and over and over. It's not a racist tattoo. For one, it's lacking the logo of "Come and take it", which would make it a racist tattoo. But a lone star above a cannon does not a racist tattoo make.
Jared is a proud Texan. He also donates to many a charity and organization that help people, speaking out about them often. Not to mention, prior to pro-gun rights appropriating the symbol and logo, it stood for a proud history in Texas. Jared would've known.
So how about instead of focusing on a mere tattoo, come up with more proof that Jared is a racist? Hmm?
Besides, if you're mad at Jared's tattoo, are you then mad at Jensen's t-shirt, which did show the saying as well?
2. Fighting with fans online. Oh come on. Misha's done it. (Misha's done worse, in fact.) Danneel's done it. Jared doing it does not a bad person make. And I don't think he's done it in a long time.
And of course, people will go "Danneel was hitting back!" And? What's the difference? Jared was hitting back too. Danneel went a step farther most of the time, siccing her followers on them, threatening them with Clif, even ran crying to Clif because people were being "mean".
3. RE: Prequelgate. Give me a fucking break! Jared was right to be upset! He called and texted Jensen for hours before he gave up and responded to that tweet about The Winchesters announcement. Jensen also lied about not being allowed cellphones on The Boys set. When they weren't filming, they were allowed. (Of course they can't have their cellphones on their person during filming, unless it suited the scene!) Besides all that, Jared honestly didn't know about it! Kripke was even shocked when he learned Jared didn't know! Supernatural and its legacy is as much Jared's as it was Jensen's! The whole freakin' industry gave Jensen a massive side-eye for his unprofessional behavior. Kevin Smith, a man who has directed, written, and acted in the industry, thought it was uncool. Also, Jared wasn't drunk.
4. Supposed bully accusations. I'd need to see more of this to believe it, but outside of occasionally putting Misha in his bullshit place, I've never heard of Jared bullying anyone. Everyone he's worked with has sung his praises. The only one who hasn't is Misha and that's because Jared won't let Misha put him down. And in fact, has had to step in to stop Misha from torturing Jensen. So fuck off with your noise.
5. His fanbase. Is he now responsible for his fanbase? I never knew that. What about Misha's fanbase sending Jensen death threats for denouncing Destiel? Has Misha ever stopped that? What about AAs hoping for Jared to suicide after Walker was cancelled?
6. What about Genevieve? Oh come on! Do I like that Gen is featuring the kids a lot? Myself, no. But if Jared was truly bothered by it, I'm sure he would've spoken to Genevieve. And Gen isn't any different than many other mommy influencers. I'm not keen on exploiting the kids like that, but would you say the same about Danneel abruptly grabbing the kids at Wales Comic Con and dragging them out for a photo op? All because she had no one in line for her autographs and desperate for attention?
7. Jared's Hair. Apparently there are some claiming Jared had gotten hair plugs. My response to that is: So what? Misha's had plastic surgery (trust me, it's obvious--his eyes and clearly lip fillers). Danneel's had worse--her hair is fried, bad extensions, plastic surgery galore that has ruined her hair line because of facelifts, fillers, Botox, and breast implants (twice!). Jensen's likely had a bit of work too.
So. Fucking. What. About Jared's hair?
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Come up with truthful reasons to hate Jared, hmm? Not bullshit.
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This is just a genuine general curious question. Have ANY of you j2 Jensen leaning fans ever stoped and thought “wait hold on, maybe Jensen isn’t being objectified as severely as I originally thought” “their are people who have complemented him not just for his looks but other things as well” ? because it will help all j2 fans to be more liked by the general fandom, as who would stop attacking people who are just projecting positivity on Jensen, Misha or anyone in the fandom in general. NOW I AM NOT SAYING YOU SPECIFICALLY, I AM TALKING ABOUT J2 FANS IN GENERAL
Hey Anon, he is....he really is. Yeah, not everyone does it to the degree that a lot of people do, but I have seen a lot of really obscene/unhinged posts out there. It's not that people aren't allowed to think he's handsome, because well, he is. It's just that there are so many people who put that before anything else, and it's just a constant barrage of that all day every day. There are some people, who take it to an extreme as well. Where it's post after post after post from the same persons talking about how gorgeous he is every single day. Then some have the audacity to tag him in their posts too.
I saw earlier that the 0dayssinceJensenwasobjectified (what a mouthful) blog posted a tweet where someone did it right. Yeah, they said he was handsome, but appreciated him as a person too. So, they recognize when people do it right and applaud them for it. As I've said a bunch of times so far, I don't know that person so I can't speak for them, but I don't think the purpose of that blog is solely to put people down for objectifying Jensen, but to hopefully make people see and bring some awareness.
I really am going to dig up his quotes from over the years where it shows how he does have some issues with it one day. I think that would be helpful for people to understand as well.
As I said when answering an ask yesterday, it's not just Jensen, it's Jared and Misha who get it done to them too. They are all human, they all want to be valued for who they are, what they do, and not just what they look like.
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I'm putting a line break here, because now I want to address the whole "help j2 fans to be more liked by the fandom" thing. All I keep hearing lately is J2 and JP fans are the worst. The most toxic, yada yada, yada. You do realize that actual J2 fans/JP fans spend most of their time defending them against hellers and AA's right? It's the hellers and AA's that are sending repeated death threats to Jared, or bullying Jared, or just hating on him in general. It's the same people who are being totally gross about objectifying Jensen, or being determined that Dean was bi and ship him with a ship that he has repeatedly, and I mean repeatedly denied existing. Tagging both Jensen and his wife in tweets about it. Tagging him in overtly sexual posts about it. Putting them in poly relationships with Misha and his girlfriend. I could go on and on and on about the atrocities committed by hellers and AA's on a daily basis.
The biggest thing though? The fact that those same people are the ones that come to our asks and say vile and malicious things to us constantly under the cover of anonymity every day. (I'm not really talking about you anon, you were fairly civil which is appreciated). My J2/JP fan friends and I go not go to other blogs and do that to others. If we are saying malicious things, it's generally in response to the ones directing at us.
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Okay, I just have to comment on this [X]. In a couple different directions really.
First, agreeing with the obvious - of course Misha is making A SHOW of support for attention, because Misha is synonymous with desperate for attention. Especially since I wouldn't bet against him being entirely aware delusions about him appearing on TW to make D/C canon was keeping a bunch of his loonies on the hook.
Then we move along to the usual fallacy of thinking that if something doesn't happen on social media, it hasn't happened. As we see every damn time someone on the cast has a birthday. Considering Jared did mentor the TW cast to some extent, he likely did talk to them about the cancellation at some point - he just didn't feel the need to make a(nother) public comment.
Of course after that, we've got the same old same old cluelessness of thinking the actors should be reacting when the fans find out about something they've known for a while. This is 'How dare anyone be happy when Misha is getting divorced!!!' all over again. They really think because an article was published just now that Jensen and the other TW people only knew it was dead dead now? I mean, of course some of the fans had wildly unrealistic expectations, but do they really think the TW team wasn't aware most cancelled shows don't get picked up elsewhere (it's rare for any show at any time, but for a not-particularly-successful CW show during a writer's strike)? This wasn't a surprise to anybody who knows anything about how things actually work. So they're not only asserting Jared should look less happy at an SPN con where fans are paying to see him, a moronic premise to start with, but that he should do so over something that's not actually news, just some fans belatedly noticing their unrealistic expectations bubble get well and truly popped.
Which brings us around to the final load of nonsense which comes back up all the time, present in the linked post and the anon, people in this fandom being way way more confident in their ability to read the actors than they are because they're projecting like a fucking IMAX on steroids. Jared is smiling and laughing this con weekend because ... Jared's public persona for cons is generally smiling and laughing. Despite the assertions Jensen looks "pissed off" or "a bit off" or whatever? I looked through the tags and from what I saw? In a few photos he's doing his usual grumpy Jensen schtick, which again ... is just something he does at cons. Not to mention there are plenty where he's smiling ... just like every other con. They're doing what they always do, not sending you super secret signals with their faces.
Every kind of interpretation it's possible to do, certain loud parts of this fandom are embarrassingly bad at it because they don't care about common sense or full-picture context, just their own weird-ass agendas.
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Rewatching Good God, Y'All
Welcome to “But Does One Simply Drive an Impala into Mordor?: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!
Up today, s5e2: Good God, Y’All.
The boys are worried about Bobby, who has lost the use of his legs and won’t speak. Dean shows off an x-ray of their very pretty carved ribs just before Cas calls Sam to find out where they are because, oh right, the pretty ribs mean they’re hidden from *all* angels, even pocket angel. Cas reveals that he’s cut off from Heaven and thus can’t heal Bobby (who has something to say about that—yay! He’s talking!) because then they couldn’t save healing him for some more dramatic time later on. Cas wants Dean’s samulet because it supposedly glows hot in the presence of orcs God. Dean doesn’t want to give it up, but Cas Dom-Voices him into it. Rufus calls Bobby for help in a town overrun by demons. The boys go to check it out, running into Ellen and Jo, who are hunting together now. Seems like everyone in this town thinks everyone else is a demon. Turns out no one is. The first of the four horsemen of the apocalypse, War, has arrived, and he’s making different groups of townsfolk think the other groups are possessed. Sam and Dean each figure this out independently because they are both smarties. They cut War’s ring from his finger, vanquishing him and gaining a piece of jewelry that, huh, seems like maybe it might be important later. At the end of the episode, Dean confesses that he's not sure he can trust Sam anymore, and they decide to go their separate ways. Uh-huh.
Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.
[and we begin:]
Mace:
oh, you’re a sword, DeanDean, don’t fight it
Lor:
LOLOLOLOL
Lor:
oh good. Jo.
Mace:
UGH
Mace:
BACK RUB
Mace:
I bet Dean gives extremely good back rubs
Lor:
LOL
Lor:
RIGHT?
Lor:
they're xrays, Sam. says that right there
Mace:
god, even their flipping ribs are pretty now
Mace:
HAHAHAHAHA OMG
Lor:
RIGHT?
Lor:
OMG LOOKIT HIM STRIDING
Mace:
omg is this the scene where Misha falls to the floor to disappear?
Mace:
YES
Lor:
I think it is!
Lor:
"Say again."
Mace:
remind me what’s wrong with Bobby?
Mace:
“I heard that” HAHAHA
Lor:
he's paralyzed from the waist down but I kinda forget why already? (Ed: We remembered eventually.)
Mace:
cripes, Cas is extra gorgeous here
Lor:
LOL
Mace:
HAHAHA
Lor:
oh Cas, oh honey, you're so earnest, baby
Mace:
HE’S NOT ON ANY FLATBREAD
Mace:
HAHAHAHA
Lor:
"no he's not on any flatbread"
Lor:
HAHAHA
Lor:
CHUCKLES
Mace:
“literally at the end of days” oh Dean, you’ve got, like 10 years left at least
Mace:
YES
Lor:
I love that Dean is SO anti-God all through but later when he actually meets him and confirms that he does not in fact care, it wrecks him so much
Lor:
LOL
Mace:
YEP
Mace:
get a little closer there, Cas
Lor:
RIGHT?
Lor:
he's SO STERN i cannot
Mace:
YES
Lor:
OMG that LOOK when he turns to Dean
Mace:
YES
Mace:
“NO”… “alright I guess”
Mace:
that didn’t take long
Lor:
"may I borrow it?" "NO" *VOICE* "Dean, give it to me" *dean does*
DOM VOICE
Mace:
that’s not exactly how you play hard to get Dean
Lor:
LOLOLOLOL
Mace:
“now I feel naked” “I’ll be in touch” NICE
Lor:
"now I feel naked" haaaahahahahahah
Lor:
"tell him to send legs" HAAAAHAHAHAHAHA
Mace:
HAHAHA
Lor:
I refuse to believe that they did not know what they were doing with Dean and Cas right from the start
Mace:
meh, I think the writers are mostly idiots, to be honest, and stumbled onto the good stuff. the rest is all on Jensen, Jared, and Cas as amazing actors
Lor:
lolololol I love the establishing shot: snowy mountains, must be Colorado, right?
Lor:
I MEANT Jensen and Cas
Lor:
omg DUDE we BOTH called Misha Cas haaaaahahahahaha
Mace:
oh AHA! well yes then
Mace:
OMG HAHAHAHAHA
Lor:
omg the tone of the music with the destruction
Mace:
quality soundtrack choice
Lor:
omg I LOVE when music goes from undiegetic to diegetic
Mace:
YES
Mace:
“hello boys” NOT YOUR LINE, ELLEN
Lor:
RIGHT?
Lor:
ALSO HOW ABOUT A HUG
Lor:
okay there it is. jeez
Mace:
HAHAHHA
Lor:
hahahaha the slap
Mace:
I don’t like her, but I do like that she calls Dean “kid"
Mace:
YES
Lor:
and the "yes, ma'am"
Mace:
YES
Lor:
agreed. I always love it when someone treats him like they love him, especially WHILE they are tearing him a new one, but Ellen as a character? meh
Mace:
exactly
Mace:
just because she’s a pregnant woman, Dean, doesn’t mean she can’t handle herself. Jesus.
Lor:
RIGHT?
Lor:
although I do suspect that THAT pregnant woman might not be able to
Mace:
well sure but I’m trying to make a point here, Lor
Lor:
I DO apologize. *drags over a box for you*
Lor:
that canned soup probably has enough salt in it to be useful
Mace:
*checks to see if box has cookies in it before realizing it’s full of soap*
Mace:
HAAAAAHAHAHAHA
Lor:
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Lor:
*hands you another, smaller, box, this one WITH cookies*
Mace:
YAS
Mace:
*munches*
Mace:
Sammy, no. Don’t lick that.
Lor:
look, in GENERAL, Sammy, don't like knives
Lor:
*lick. dammit
Lor:
like them all you want
Mace:
SNORK
Mace:
WHY is it that every pregnant character on the screen is constantly holding her belly. NO ONE ACTUALLY DOES THAT
Lor:
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Lor:
ooooof, Dean
Lor:
I feel like if I had ever been pregnant, I would have used the shelf as a good place to rest the snacks
Mace:
YEP
Mace:
been there
Lor:
I mean, the boobies work, surely the baby bump would too
Mace:
works pretty good until the kicking starts
Lor:
LOL
Lor:
now I'm picturing chips just like flying out of the bowl
Mace:
SNORK
Mace:
ope, fret boys
Mace:
not really any of your business, Ellen
Lor:
okay, so Sam is incredibly hot when he gets angry and shoves people and Dean is incredibly hot shoved up against a wall. it's fine. I'm fine
Mace:
HAHAHAHA RIGHT?!
Lor:
also SOME GIRL? Have you met them? They never like the same girls
Lor:
and girls are always about one of them or the other
Mace:
right?! she’s a dummy
Lor:
WATCH THE SHOW ELLEN
Mace:
HAHAHAHA
Lor:
YAY RUFUS
Mace:
YES
Lor:
oh Dean
Mace:
right?
Lor:
"random's good"
Mace:
YES
Lor:
"this isn't x-files, pal"
Mace:
Ellen really should be a great character. strong woman and all, but she just… sucks. and I can’t really figure out what it is about her that doesn’t work
Mace:
HA
Lor:
right? she should be great but she's just kind of annoying
Mace:
is it the actor? the writing? maybe a little of both
Lor:
lol the poor pastor
Lor:
yeah, probably a bit of both
Mace:
HAHAHA YEP
Mace:
War is excellent, on the other hand
Lor:
YES
Mace:
War’s a daddy and I’m okay with that
Lor:
RIGHT?
Mace:
“that’s adorable” HA
Lor:
LOL
Mace:
Oh Sammy, don’t listen to him
Mace:
look at those puppy eyes
Lor:
RIGHT?!
Mace:
army dude is also a cutie
Lor:
he really is
Mace:
“genius” I love it
Lor:
YES
Mace:
Rufus is master-level snark
Lor:
"stop firing usually means stop firing" I LOVE HIM
Lor:
YES
Lor:
Frodo of the niiiiiine fingers
Mace:
War calling them kiddos to parallel Ellen
Mace:
HAHAHAHAHA
Lor:
YEP
Mace:
omg Dean’s LotR reference!
Mace:
You two
Lor:
"so pit stop at mount doom" DEEEAN
Lor:
YAAAAAAS
Mace:
Oh Sammy, I love you just the way you are
Lor:
well of course
Lor:
omg Dean's squinty face before he agrees
Mace:
UGH THESE TWO
Lor:
and his freeeeckles
Mace:
you KNOW you don’t want to be apart, boys. just STOP
Lor:
RIGHT?
Lor:
maybe someone should knock their heads together
Lor:
OMG offering Sam Baby
Mace:
THEY TOTALLY SHOULD
Mace:
YES
Lor:
"you too, Sammy" OMG BOYS STOOOOOP
Mace:
FRUSTRATION NOISES
Lor:
LOL YES
#watchingspnagain#watchingspnagain 5x02#spn#supernatural#spn meta#spn spoiler#spn 5x02#watchingspnagain fraught#watchingspnagain handwaving#watchingspnagain music#watchingspnagain treatment of female characters
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To start with I admit I don’t really like the first 3 seasons. It’s the same thing over and over again and it’s boring. Apparently it’s called villain of the week and I’m not a fan of that. I much prefer the way season 4 and 5 are done. Yes there are still eps where they are just hunting a monster but at least there’s a story to it all. If I was watching back when it was actually on or I didn’t know what future eps were going to be like I would’ve stopped after the first few eps or the first season. I just knew the storyline was going to change so I suffered through it. The only thing that made that easier was Dean. I knew Cas was going to be my fave character (and he is) so I really wanted to get to season 4 to see him and thank god I did.
Now to season 5. I know later on Dean really can’t handle Cas being dead but it’s amazing that it started only a year after knowing him. Chuck told Dean and Sam that Cas was dead. He blew up there was no way he survived that but Dean wasn’t going to accept that. He was like maybe this happened or maybe that happened the guy was not accepting there was even a chance Cas was dead. Same thing in the 5 years later ep when the past Dean realized what future Dean was doing to his friends he said “even Cas?” It was like it’s bad enough you’re sending these people you consider friends to get killed but how dare you do that to Cas. Even with the trickster ep (I’m sorry I don’t remember the names of these eps or what number they are just first half of season 5) when the trickster got rid of Cas Dean even said how worried he was about Cas and then threatened him to bring Cas back. Yet Sam didn’t really seem to care. He had plenty of time to say I wonder what happened to Cas or I hope Cas is ok but nope. I like paying attention to that stuff because people try to say that the three of them are just best friends. These scenes show that Cas and Dean have a much more special bond then just best friends. Cas and Sam at this point I don’t think are even friends. Cas seems to get annoyed when he has to talk to Sam.
I’m also paying attention to the way they are wording things. I’m assuming up to ep 2 Dean thought Cas rebelled because he wanted to or to get away from heaven or the other angels. I like that Cas got in Deans face and said “…I rebelled for you.” He didn’t say because of you. If he said because of you it would sound like Cas wanted to disobey and Dean helped him but he said for you which means he did it to help Dean. Also he didn’t say for you and Sam or so you could help Sam he just mentioned Dean (I guess Dean forgot that in season 4 ep 22 once he said “im done” to Cas that’s when Cas changed his mind. I’m done sounds like I’m never talking to you again and that’s what got to Cas). Also in the trickster ep when Cas found Dean and Sam he said “you’ve been missing for 3 days.” Again he didn’t say you two or you and Sam he said you. Which leads me to believe he was only looking for Dean and he was looking at Dean the whole time. I know this show (including Misha and Jensen) pick their words carefully. Like when Misha said it warmed the Cockles of his heart or when Jensen said his wife calls Misha her boyfriend which is funny cause so do I. I think he choose those words because you can’t tell if he’s saying he also calls Misha her boyfriend or he himself calls Misha his boyfriend. Personally though if it was me and I meant I call Misha my wife’s boyfriend I would say which is funny cause I do that too but if I meant I call Misha my boyfriend I would say so do I.
I noticed that when Cas seen Crowley and that guy kiss he didn’t react at all. He wasn’t surprised or disgusted nothing. Yet when Dean went to that gay sex place (the ep with the magicians) and when he was talking to the two gay guys he was more nervous then anything. If he was homophobic he would’ve been disgusted and if he was straight he would’ve probably had no reaction but he was nervous as hell in both scenes and after he talked to the two guys and they told him his life didn’t suck he was playing with his keys smiling. It was a thinking about someone kind of smile though. Could’ve been thinking about a certain angel. Back to Cass reaction when Dean brought him to the sex place (I know there’s a name on it but it’s bit comeing to my head) he was scared shitless. Obviously it’s not a place an angel would feel comfortable but it looked like more a guy being forced to have sex with a girl by the guy he likes kind of scared. The look on his face honestly made me laugh a little to much.
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Ok but jpad has no emotional dept to his acting. Im currently studying acting. Like this is my college major. And when I say he has no depth, I mean he plays everything too hard. "The best emotion is suppressed emotion" is in acting 101 and he just does not get that. Jensen plays it bothe ways. Yes he can have clear emotions but a lot of time it's in his eyes or a nuance.
Then you've got Jpad who does the same thing every emotional scene. The same voice pattern for every line. The same eyes. The same... Everything.
And you'd think it'd get better with time.
Oh he's only 21, Jensen is 26, he'll grow as an actor.
Nope.
In fact.
I think he's better in the early seasons.
Come season 15 he still looks and acts like an immature college freshman just now with a beard.
Anyway...
Saw your post and had to share my own thoughts bc everyone I know thinks he's so good and I'm just HOW
Oh, hello!!! And thank you so much for the message; it's really interesting to hear from someone who has experience with acting as a vocation, instead of just from an observer's perspective. (I've done some acting --- in drama clubs and such --- but certainly nothing professional in any sense of the word; I have a sense of what is good/what works and what doesn't from an amateur's perspective, but the technical point of view you provide is awesome!)
I agree a hundredfold with your point about nuance: Padalecki's performance never really seems to have much. I mean, there's the occasional well-done gesture from time to time --- and I'll admit that the representation of Gadreel was sometimes decently good (largely, imo, because Gadreel was acted in a very earnest-bordering-on-deadpan manner... and, even then, I thought Tahmoh Penikett did far better) --- but Padalecki doesn't tend to do much other than cycle through the same basic Signs of Emotion. Indeed, he rarely manages to string them together believably, so it's more of a slideshow of "emotions" than it is an actual, seamless progression through them.
Your emphasis on sameness is precisely something I've tried (and, frankly, probably failed) to tell my friends of similar mentalities; I feel like you've put it into words admirably: he acts the same way whenever a specific emotion is needed. It's formulaic and flat. Anger = twitch jaw + flare nostril + (sometimes) a crinkle between eyebrows. Sadness = drawn-in eyebrows + squint really hard + sniff. "Compassion" = puppy-dog eyes + (what can only be termed his) Compassionate Face. It's like a math problem or something, not a real, human reaction.
I also definitely agree with your point about the earlier seasons: I do think that his earlier stuff was better. I don't know if he lost interest, gave up, or got cocky --- though I tend towards the last one, given his comments that (and this probably isn't a direct quote) "anyone could have played Dean" --- but his prowess, such as it had been, decreased sharply as the seasons went on.
I haven't exactly been subtle about the fact that I am very much a fan of Dean over Sam, so it probably should come as no surprise that I find his acting stellar. But Jensen is just a better actor in general. The nuance, like you said, is very rarely absent from his performances. Same with Misha; he's believable and realistic in a way that Padalecki never really is (imo). And yes, I recognize that some of this is personal preference, but I think there's just an objective difference between the acting of Padalecki and that of the other two.
Anyway, sorry for the long post... I'm sure you probably didn't intend to spark off a whole thing about this, and I doubt I added much, but I wanted to give your note the emphasis it deserved; your take is fascinating --- especially given, as I said, your experiences in the field --- and I also want to say thanks for sending it! I'm honored you reached out (and it'd be awesome to hear from you again, though no pressure) and I hope you're well!
#answered asks#scripted downfall asks answered#anti jared padalecki#thank you for the ask!!!#please keep 'em comin'#lets see how many anti-antis we can summon#there's already been one#acting anon#if y'all can't read sarcasm btw (valid; social cues aren't easy): that's a dni notice
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happiest memories
𝓲𝓶𝓪𝓰𝓲𝓷𝓮 - happiest memories
𝔀𝓪𝓻𝓷𝓲𝓷𝓰𝓼 - just a lot of fluff
𝓭𝓮𝓼𝓬𝓻𝓲𝓹𝓽𝓲𝓸𝓷 - all it took was just one photo, a photo from jensen and alessandra ackles' recent wedding that set off four of the couple's happiest memories together.
𝓪𝓾𝓽𝓱𝓸𝓻'𝓼 𝓷𝓸𝓽𝓮 - the photo in question will be first and then the memories will be in 'order' and in italics so it makes more sense and the present time will be in normal font. also, i decided that i need to write more for jensen cause i just write a lot for jared and misha.
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jensen and his wife alessandra ackles had just been rearranging their house when alessandra stumbled upon some of her and jensen's wedding photos from 2010, the photo she saw though, in particular, sending good shivers down her spine. the photo in specificity was taken as they left the church after the ceremony. jensen and alessandra had a very fancy but private sort of wedding in dallas. the photo was taken just outside the church they had just gotten married in, alessandra was taking up majority of the photo with only a slither of jensen able to be seen, alessandra smiling a big smile at her new husband as they held hands. the slither that could be seen of jensen was his hand holding his wife's and the faintest/blurriest portion of his chin that looked as though he was also smiling at his wife. a big talk of the wedding was the fact that alessandra had two separate dresses, her ceremony dress, a simple satin, silky long-line dress, and her reception dress, a short dress with sparkling fringe all over it, screaming y2k whilst jensen just changed from his suit jacket to his white button-up for the reception.
"...wow, i had completely forgotten about this photo..." alessandra trailed off as she looked up to her husband who could only smile and nod his head
"...i did too to be quite honest. i'm still glad even after so many years though that it doesn't show me crying *giggles* because lord have mercy, i just know i would have been non-stop heckled for that!" jensen joked as alessandra smiled at her husband, also laughing with him
"i mean, in all honesty, i kind of wish the photographer had included you in it more. you're cute when you get emotional," alessandra giggled as jensen smiled, shaking his head as he giggled
"i have to say though, this may just be my favourite photo from our wedding..." jensen trailed off as that intrigued his wife
"...how so?" "you'll see," jensen smiled as he opened up a photo album that was titled 2005
2005
alessandra was currently starring in her first-ever tv show called supernatural. whilst the girl was excited, she was just as terrified as she was excited. this was something she had been dreaming about doing for ages and now at just shy of twenty-four, she was doing exactly that. whilst it wasn't the first time exactly that alessandra would be starring in a tv show, it was still the first time she was doing it as a reccuring character.
the girl was just asked to come out of her trailer to meet the other two lead characters. however, she was slightly worried that because she was wearing nothing but a calvin klein bra and sweatpants she'd be making the wrong impression on the two actors. but, her manager and eric kripke, creator of supernatural, told her not to worry about it and that her outfit choice would not change the impression from the two other lead actors. and, honestly, she was glad that she trusted her manager's judgement because, in eric we trust, he was right.
"...hey...umm, you're alessandra kaminski? the other lead in supernatural?" a texan accent rang out which caught alessandra's attention, looking up from her script, she smiled as she saw one of the two leads in front of her, he had gorgeous green eyes and what looked like light brown hair, looking a little nervous
"hiya...yeah, i am alessandra and, you are?"
"jensen...i'm jensen ackles, i'm one of the two lead actors in the new wb show, supernatural," he smiled shyly as alessandra smiled back at him as she scooched over so he could sit with her, a smile forming on his face as he quickly took the seat, ignoring the wolf whistles of a second brunette boy who was most likely the other lead actor
"oh, nice! i'm also one of the leads? i think that's what eric said but, maybe i hallucinated that actually *giggles*," jensen giggled at alessandra's quip of hallucinating her being the third lead as alessandra shared eye contact with the fellow green-eyed boy
"you didn't hallucinate that, alessandra, you are the third lead. two brothers and their wayward best friend," jensen explained as alessandra hummed with a nod of her head with a small giggle afterwards
"ahh, that makes sense..."
"...hey, jay, i was just looking for you..."
"...oh, i...i am so sorry. was i interrupting anything?" another texan accent suddenly rang out, alessandra shifted her eyes to see a even taller but slightly younger texan boy who had a striking set of sunflower, hazel-like eyes standing in front of her and jensen
"oh, no, no, you weren't at all. jensen and i were just introducing ourselves to each other. hi, i'm alessandra kaminski, the third lead actor of the new show," she introduced herself as she stood up so she could properly shake hands with the new unnamed boy who smiled back at her - jensen watching at how effortlessly she had just done all of that with the most manners ever
"hiya alessandra, i'm jared padalecki, i'm the other lead actor alongside ackles, we're the winchester brothers so, i'm guessing you're playing their wayward best friend," jared smiled as alessandra too smiled and nodded her head as she then giggled
"well, you're not wrong there. but, jared, seeing as we're all here, do you want to sit here with jensen and me unless you needed to grab jensen for something else like a blocking session or something?" both boys were so shocked to see how poised and put together their fellow costar who was basically the same age as them was after having just met the both of them, the two lads smiling at each other
"yeah, sure, i can stay here with you both. i was just trying to find jensen is all as one minute i was talking with him and eric and the next second i look back and he's off and gone somewhere else," jared giggled which made jensen's face heat up - did he seriously bail out from his friends to introduce himself to her?
"oh, did he really do that? anyway, that's great you can stay with us, jared. besides, still confuses me why i'm filming today considering i can't even understand this particular scene and i have to start the filming of it by the end of the day..." alessandra trailed off as jensen couldn't help but smile at the girl that was sitting very close to him
"...well, i...i mean, if you wanted, jared and i could help you with getting the scene? just so you can get the scene blocked by today?" jensen stammered out nervously as alessandra smiled at the offer, jared agreeing as well
"seriously? i mean, it wouldn't be the first time i get someone raising their voice at me for not figuring something out on my own *giggles* but, if you are able to, that would be such a help, thank you, jensen and jared," alessandra thanked sweetly as jensen and jared smiled at the girl
"it's no problem at all alessandra, jensen and i have already done our blocking for the day, it's only extras that are left in the studio so, we're happy to help you. plus, we don't want you to be yelled at again, also, i know we have just met and we're already being so nice but that's just who we are as texans. we're buddies in the show so, we'll be buddies in real life, so in saying all of that, let's help you get this scene blocked!" jared announced as alessandra smiled as jensen grabbed her arm and helped her up from the seat
alessandra started to walk back to her trailer, turning around to see jensen and jared stalling behind her, giggling, she spoke up, "you coming boys or are you gossiping about me?" jensen and jared paused before shaking their heads
"we're coming alessandra!" they both shouted out which made the three of them giggle, alessandra turning around to continue to walk in the direction of her trailer, leaving the two texans to themselves
"you are totally in love with her jay!" jared chuckled as jensen rolled his eyes, pushing his friend as they walked over to alessandra's trailer
"no, i am not!"
"just wait a year, maybe less..."
"...jay, babe, what were you thinking about?" alessandra rubs her husband's back as he smiles
"'05, when we first met in vancouver when supernatural was just starting," jensen smirked as alessandra giggled, showing the photo he had found that had been taken later that day
"holy crap, that feels like it was forever ago now!" alessandra chuckled as jensen nodded his head in agreement
"it really does, jared really was right..."
december 2005
it was an award show, where supernatural was being honoured - not awarded per sey - when it was shown that jensen and alessandra were seen walking in together, causing a right stir to all the magazines and paparazzi that showed up for the event. making the actors giggle, none more so than alessandra and jensen, since they were shown walking in next to each other. it was wildly known within the magazines the whole year that those two had grown extremely close and was rumoured that they were dating since they were always seen out together. which, when it came to rumours around the supernatural cast, people were shocked that jared wasn't trying to ruin it since it was usually him that would jokingly throw fuel into the fire about the love lives of his two best friends/costars. but, to be funny, jensen and alessandra started to put more fuel in the fire by constantly amping up their public outings and public flirting and egging on the photographers and magazines so they could get a reaction.
for the first time this entire night, however, alessandra had walked off from jensen and their table as she had spotted jared chatting with his old costar, milo ventimiglia who starred in gilmore girls together, fondling a whiskey.
"...hey jar, milo, can i sit?" alessandra asked sweetly, the ceremony not even begun filming yet, jared and milo's eyes moving from their glasses to the young girl, both of them smiling back
"hey aless, course you can," jared smiled, milo smiling too, "where's jensen, thought you'd be joint at the hip," the californian chuckled before the three composed themselves, so as to not create too much noise
"of course you did. but, nah, since the cameras aren't rolling, and before the evening starts, thought i'd just frolic around and talk to some people before the ceremony starts, ya know? just to release some nerves," alessandra smiled, making jared and milo smile back as they empathised with the girl since supernatural getting honoured was such an interesting and new thing that had never happened before now - especially because it had only just finished its first year of airing and it was still unsure if they were being picked up for a second season
"fair, i mean, tv show honourings can be quite stressful," milo smiled with a shrug of the shoulders since it wasn't his first time seeing a tv show get honoured
"do you think he's realised you've left him?" jared chuckles at alessandra, playing around with his whiskey that he was seemingly having trouble even drinking as the texan girl chuckled
"i mean, i feel like if he had he'd be going on a manhunt right about now but, i think right now he hasn't noticed, why do you say that mr padalecki? you suspect mr ackles and i have a thing going on?" alessandra narrowed her eyes at the boy, bringing her hands underneath her chin as her elbows rested against the table as she moves closer to the texan who giggles hysterically and moves back instinctively, milo quietly giggling, the three of them thanking heaven that they weren't on air right now
"no, why would you think that? am i that obvious?" jared cackles, his head flailing backwards making alessandra and milo shut jared up so no one else would hear them as they also start giggling
"sssh, unfortunately, yes, you're not as slick as you like to think you are mr padalecki," alessandra giggles as the three of them calm down
then, just as the three of them calmed down, eric kripke, the creator of supernatural made his way to the stage after the cameraman had announced that they were about to go live. this then worried the crap out of alessandra, the colour draining from her face since it was her first honouring of a tv show she's just started starring in at the beginning of the year. both men, jared and milo, noticed this and asked the girl if she was okay.
"...aless, you okay?" jared questioned, snapping alessandra out of her disassociation as she smiled at him and milo
"yeah, i'm fine, why?" alessandra responded as the two men looked at each other in worry
"do you want me to get jensen or do you want me to walk us back to our table for the honouring ceremony?" jared then asked as she smiled and nodded her head
within minutes, jensen with two glasses of vodka soda had reached jared, alessandra and milo. downing the two drinks, jared and jensen, along with alessandra in the middle of them, walked back over to the supernatural cast table for the ceremony that was moments from going live.
let's just say that for the rest of the ceremony, jensen and alessandra did not leave each other's sides after the first time failed. that was until it was announced that not only was the tv show itself getting honoured, so was alessandra? and because of this, alessandra had to go up on stage and accept an "award" for her own honouring on behalf of the entire network and cast of supernatural.
"...jensen, do you remember when we filmed season four together?" alessandra suddenly asks her husband as he tilts his head, trying to rack his brain of the memory
"i'm trying very hard, why? what happened when we filmed season four together?" jensen questioned, leaning against the table as alessandra pointed at a photo that showed the two of them together in the middle of laughter with the other cast members in the background
supernatural season four filming
just one glance was all it took for alessandra to forget the next set of lines in the scene as she tried her hardest to get back on track so she could remember and keep the scene going.
to the cast and crew watching, it was obvious why alessandra forgot her lines and who that one glance was to. and jensen wasn't so slick either. the two had been making silly faces at each other until one of jensen's signature "smoulders" caught her off guard and made her forget what lines were coming next in their scene together.
after barely getting through the scene due to her giggles, alessandra spoke up after the cut of the scene was called, "...gosh darn it, jensen! okay, for those who were concered or confused, the reason why i forgot the lines was because of jensen ackles! we were making silly faces at each other, as we usually do, when jensen caught me off guard with one of his famous "jensen smoulders" and it all just went to shit from there *giggles* so i apologise greatly for that everyone!" alessandra giggled into the camera for the eventual gag reel that this would be apart of, the crew laughing with her as she turned to notice jensen suddenly get all bashful and red in the face
laughing cause she could hear the rest of their cast giving him some stick, alessandra spoke up again, "now jensen's getting teased by our costars which is the funniest thing in the world but, it is your fault, jensen!" alessandra joked as jensen shouted an apology which caused everyone to laugh again as the cameras just continued rolling
"i'm sorry, okay aless?!" jensen shouts as alessandra and the cast and crew laugh, resulting in the couple, nicknamed jensandra, also bursting out into laughter
"i know, i was just playing with you, jay!" alessandra giggled as jensen let out a dramatic sigh of relief, the both of them really just teasing the fans at this point
"i take that back actually..." alessandra huffed as jensen's entire body shook in laughter, his head flying back as alessandra had a sly smirk that was twitching at her lips before she also broke
"...you wish!" jensen snickered after he had composed himself from his full-body laugh as alessandra groaned and rolled her eyes after she had composed herself from her laughter as well
"well, shit, i can't win this and, now i'm supposed to continue acting this scene? how unfair!" alessandra huffed as jensen and the rest of the cast and crew found this entire interaction between the couple hysterically comedic
"that's because you never do, i always win these things! i would've thought you'd know this by now babe, come on now!" jensen teased, not realising that he had just outed him and alessandra's relationship on camera for the spn fans to eventually watch in the gag reel of this new season, causing the entire cast and crew to scream bloody murder, alessandra's eyes widening and nearly giving herself whiplash from how quickly she turned towards her boyfriend
in an attempt to stop the cast and crew from freaking out over this new revelation, alessandra tried to lessen the imapct, "jensen! no, guys, calm down, jensen and i are not dating..." trailing off at the end only because she knew that there was no way this could be fixed, jensen had seriously just outed his own relationship with alessandra after keeping it private for at best, a year
"...yeah, nah, there is no way we can hide it now, sorry aless!" jensen hushed out after alessandra finished her scene, causing the girl to smile, grabbing her boyfriend's face and kissing it
"it's okay babe, i think it was starting to stress us out a little too much so, i don't mind that everyone knows now..." she trailed off as jensen's face lit up, not just in excitement but also due to the fact he was blushing
"...cool, i agree..." jensen trails off as he giggles, before pulling alessandra in for a kiss causing the both of them to giggle even more as they touched foreheads before hearing the click and seeing the flash of jared's camera, making them giggle more
"...babe, i had never felt such fear until that moment i accidentally outed us on camera for season four together!" jensen chuckled as alessandra giggled hysterically, nodding her head in agreement as they looked at the photo where the memory had come from
"i know! i was mortified but, by the end of it, i didn't care anymore since it did stop the magazines from constantly making rumours about us just to stop them from mentioning jared's silly rumours," alessandra giggled as jensen nodded his head, giggling too
"honestly, at that point, i think i was too since we were so used to seeing those silly rumours in the magazines for the wrong reasons, i guess we also wanted to prevent that and how it could have potentially ruined supernatural's image," jensen smiled as he rubbed his hand against his wife's back before giving her a kiss on the cheek and getting up to make dinner whilst alessandra continued to look through the photo album
2010
"...wait, your full name really is jensen ross ackles?" alessandra chuckled
she was currently staying with jensen in dallas and right now they were at jensen's childhood home. she had picked up a photo frame that she hadn't seen until this moment - a baby photo of jensen that had his first, middle and last name engraved in the photo frame
"yeah...it's been like that my entire life, what about it baby?" jensen scoffed as he turned around to see what his wife had gotten into when he realised what she was holding
"why didn't you ever tell me that ross was really your middle name?" there was sort of a sad tinge in alessandra's voice when she asked that and, it saddened but at the same time confused jensen, who had placed the tea towel down and left the kitchen to check on his wife
"i...i'm not sure babe, i guess our middle names really haven't eveer come up in conversation since our wedding, why are you asking that babe? i thought it was common knowledge that ross was my middle name. is there something you haven't told me yet?" jensen was genuinely concerned as alessandra scoffed slightly as her husband tilted his head
"ross was the name of my brother that uh, that was stillborn because of an illness that had developed in mom's bloodstream..." alessandra trailed off in embarrassment, placing down jensen's baby picture as she sighed heavily - jensen was never told about that and, whilst it broke his heart, it worried him more so than anything else
"...how many weeks was baby ross, if you don't me asking, when he was born still, babe?" jensen's face was genuinely a look of concern as alessandra smiled slightly as she placed her hand palm down against the old cabinet that had the old childhood photos, including that baby photo of jensen amongst other ones of him with his siblings, joshua and mackenzie, scattered all over it
"at thirty-five weeks, he was also a big little boy..." she trailed off and it was very obvious to jensen that this was a thing that she rarely spoke about and he respected that but, it still hurt his heart as he never knew his mother-in-law went through something like that
"how...how did you and the rest of the family react? how did dad react?" jensen stuttered, feeling like he shouldn't have been asking so many questions but, he couldn't help it and alessandra was slowly smiling - as if talking about this trauma that she had shoved so far down was actually helping her relieve the trauma it gave her
"we were absolutely devastated over it at first. i mean, of course we were. i mean, i refused to talk to her and honestly, sometimes i still do as it's something my step-mom has trouble shutting up about at every family function even though it was a couple of decades ago now. dad was devastated. he was just excited that we were bringing in the eighth kid as we all were however,it started to become obvious that due to the illness in mom's bloodstream that it was either save the baby but kill mom or have a stillborn but still have your mom. and, obviously, we chose the latter," alessandra trailed off as jensen's face fell into furrowed eyebrows with a saddened look on his face
"wow, that...that's awful and, i bet if he was still here, baby ross would have been the sweetest little brother ever!" jensen smiles softly, placing his hand over the top of his wife's who smiled back as she nodded her head
"thanks, jay, never knew i'd reveal that especially so soon after our wedding as it isn't technically my place but, i guess it's just been weighing me down lately..." alessandra trailed off as jensen's smile grew prouder
"...and i'm proud of you my love... also, what's your middle name? you didn't tell me at the wedding so i had to stand there red-faced whilst my full name was recited out but yours wasn't,"
"for god's sake jensen, it's aurelia-rose..."
"...have i ever told you that your middle name is absolutely gorgeous?" jensen just randomly blurts out as he mashed up the sweet potatoes as alessandra giggles and furrows her eyebrows in confusion
"excuse me what?" she cackled as she went back to folding up clothes that had just been washed, jensen giggling softly as they kept an eye on the noise in the play room
"your middle name bubs, it's very pretty," jensen spoke as alessandra blushed as she giggled out in embarrassment
"awe, thanks my darling! i love it as well," she giggles softly as she places the folded jacket into the wash hamper
"who gave you your full name?" jensen then asked, his focus more on his wife's name than the sweet potato mash, making alessandra giggle
"dad did actually. he had always loved those three names, alessandra, aurelia and rose. and, of course, cause he's polish, he did want a traditional polish name but he just realised that those three names all had a good flow together when he put it together with the polish last name. and, when he'd say it out loud to people to see if he and mom should really have that as my name, they all agreed saying it was just nice and satisfying to say. so, a little less than a week later, they decided to name me, alessandra aurelia-rose kaminski, with aurelia and rose being hyphenated," she smiled, shrugging her shoulders as jensen bit his lip - yeah, he still loved the hell out of his wife
"that's adorable. i love that your dad chose it, i'm guessing that gave daddy the upper hand in the department of the favourite parent?" jensen giggled as alessandra nodded her head as she huffed some hair out of her face that was starting to become red
"oh, for sure. daddy's girl from the start!" alessandra giggled which made jensen chuckle as well as he then continued on the sweet potato mash for his family's dinner
wedding day, daddy/daughter dance, 2010
it was time for the daddy/daughter's first dance at jensen and alessandra's texan wedding and, let's just say, she was so very excited and, it was mainly due to the song choice. she had elvis can't help falling in love as a surprise for her dad as that song was the song he would sing her to sleep with every single night.
the song started and straight away, antoni kaminski, alessandra kaminski's father couldn't hide the tears that had built up in his eyes as his little girl wiped them away. instead of her father singing the lyrics to his little girl, alessandra surprised her father and sang the words to him.
"wise men say, only fools rush in but i can't help falling in love with you..." alessandra sang softly as the father and daughter duo glided softly on the dance floor, jensen watched on as he danced with his mother with a tearful smile on his face
"...like a river flows, surely to the sea darling, so it goes, some things you know, are just meant to be..." the duo sang together as they hugged and swayed side to side in tune with the music
"...take my hand, take my whole life too, for i can't help falling in love with you, for i can't help falling in with you, yeah..."
humming the melody of elvis' can't help falling in love, alessandra continued to fold clothes as jensen heard his wife, "...you alright babe?" jensen whispered, hugging her from behind as the chaos of their two kids started to filter away into white noise as alessandra smiled at her husband
"mhm," alessandra mumbled back, turning her head to smile at her husband as she then took notice of her and jensen's eldest daughter, aurelia
"aurelia! could you get your brother ready please, daddy's just about done with dinner!" alessandra called out, a happy squeal leaving aurelia's mouth as she neatly put her toys away before gathering up her brother's toys as well
"coming mamma!" aurelia calls back, herding her younger brother upstairs to wash their hands for dinner, giving the husband and wife a few more minutes together alone
"mmm, you think aurelia and zeppelin will react well to getting another brother or sister?" alessandra announced casually as jensen's eyes widened
"what? seriously? you're pregnant again babe?" jensen gaped in shock as alessandra giggled, nodding her head
"yep, i'm five months, just short!" alessandra squealed as jensne picked up his wife in pure excitement
"WE'RE HAVING ANOTHER BABY, ALESSANDRA!" jensen screeched from just about the tops of his lungs as the husband and wife chuckled, hearing the increased pitter patter of feet meaning that most likely, aurelia and zeppelin had heard their daddy scream
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okay, whilst i'm glad that i've finally written for jensen again, i have got to say, this ending is not the best! in saying that though, i do like the slow inclusion of jensen and alessandra's two kids and then the ending that has alessandra reveal she's pregnant with their third. however, i'm not going to comment on that any further because i do think this is a sweet one-shot so i'm glad i wrote it again!
ok ily bye xx
wc; 4995
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Spoilers for The Winchesters and 15x20!!!
I will probably delete this later, but I have some thoughts.
First, I want to say that I think the finale was really well done. I am still unhappy that Dean died in 15×20, but this gives his death a bit more meaning. At least to me.
Second, I do agree that it wasn't the right time to get Cas back. If/when we see him back on screen, and get a destiel reunion, it deserves to have enough time to be played out properly.
Third, a lot of us were clowning and reading into parallels between John & Mary and destiel, such as similar outfits and lines both pairings said.... that is on us...
However, we were Cas baited. There was a clip of Cas in The Winchesters trailer that had no right to be there if he wasn't even going to be mentioned in the show. One can even argue that Danneel showing Cas/Misha on that magazine wasn't her saying he was going to be in the show. I'm not saying I agree with that, but draw your own opinion on that.
All in all, I really liked The Winchesters and what it did for the spn universe. I love how we got to see so many of our favorites again (Rowena, Gabriel(Loki), Bobby, Jack, cameo from Rob's band) and I'm looking forward to seeing what more Jensen, Robbie, and Danneel can do if given the chance... I just hope that involves giving dean and cas the ending they deserve.
Feel free to message me if you want to rant about this too haha!
I also looking forward to reading some destiel fics set after The Winchesters finale!!! Send them my way!
Edit: Seeing Misha's interview made me feel a lot better and I really hope we get a season 2 of The Winchesters!
#jensen ackles#spn#destiel#misha collins#castiel#dean winchester#supernatural#the winchesters#finale#rowena macleod#robbie thompson#danneel ackles#alexander calvert#jim beaver#richard speight jr#rob benedict
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it's weird because appearance-wise, in the face Misha's Cas has changed so much? like when i compare even s4 cas with s8 he's different
no you're so right nonny!!! well, i mean you're right in that cas's appearance did change (imo kinda drastically) over the series, but that's not necessarily weird aha (but i get it, i also start things with "it's weird" even when it's not actually weird klsadjflksdf just how i talk) but that all said, yes! this is something that i've noticed too, and yeah it's clear as early as s8 with only 4 years difference
i find it fascinating actually and why i love watching shows that aired for years, especially if those years stemmed from when the actor was young to when they're older. like looking at both jensen and jared through the full 15 seasons of supernatural, it's insane, we literally watched them grow up. and it's apparent in both of them, but as a jackles girlie of course i'm gonna focus on him.
we all go on about the jender of young jensen and early seasons dean drives us fucking feral. i've always been of the mind that early seasons dean is great, he cute, but he really grows into his good looks and attractiveness in his 30s, ESPECIALLY starting in s8. and it's literally just aging, he grew into this!!! and imo he looks better now at 44 than he's EVER looked like that man phew
and misha in particular is really interesting in this regard bc he was 34 during s4, which, when compared to what i was just saying about jensen, makes him unique. bc it makes sense that jensen looks incredibly different from s1 compared to s8, but that was also from when he was 27 to when he was 35. but like i said, misha was 34! (and now that it's typed out i do realize that 35 is older than 34 lol, so it's not really unreasonable but i DIGRESS)
but you're so right, just the visual difference between s4 vs s8 case (and later seasons obvs), from 34 to 38 is very apparent. and that's not to say that i think it's a bad difference, i absolutely don't. much like jackles, i legit don't think misha has ever looked better
anyway nonny, you did not ask for this long ass answer, but also that's the risk you take when sending messages alksjdfl;skdjf
#bri attempts to socialize#Anonymous#and i 'm prolly the only person who finds this so interesting#but y'all have to understand that i am 30 years old#and i look like i'm fucking 12#there's a tiktok filter out there that's supposed to make you look like you did as a teen#i tried it once and i looked EXACTLY THE SAME i'm not even exaggerating#so i'm fascinated bc apparently i don't fucking age
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"Um... you are clearly not online much, sir. Phew."
I mean yeah is is not online much, but you thinking he does not actually know what is going on then you clearly don't know him. Jensen has been subtly calling out on fandom shit for years, and you guys are just too stupid to realise it wen he is calling you out or anyone out.
"You guys".
Who is "you guys"?
The anti Danneels? The anti Jensens? The anti Jareds? Anti Mishas? I need context!
Wait. Nope. Stop right there.
Subtly calling out fandom shit. What's the loudest, if still minority?
Destiel fanatics. The hellers.
What's the second loudest, if still minority?
The Jared haters, precisely because in their mind, he's preventing Destiel from happening.
Thankfully the "We love Jared" fans are bigger in number. I mean... it's certainly why Jared had won people's choice awards after that one year Jensen did. Because Jared fans are more numerous. (Sorry, it's true.)
So what could Jensen potentially be seeing that is upsetting? The giant sized holes in his stories about family? About his wife? About the hell he's been putting up with? I hope he realizes there are people who actually give a damn as opposed to the AAs wanting their perfect Ken doll, and who don't give a fuck about his health and well-being. Who actually want him to pace himself and take good care of him because we care, as opposed to demanding him 24/7, like I've seen the AAs say.
Oh, and that there are true J2 fans out there, who aren't happy at seeing the Jared hate.
As for Danneel--well. That's on her, not Jensen. I don't subscribe to the concept that you have to love both people in a marriage. It's nonsense. Never happens in real life.
If Danneel wants positive conversation about her, maybe she ought to be a better person. A better wife. A better mother. If their kids are crying to Jensen that they miss him, that means it's bad at home. If there are people upset at how Danneel treats Jensen, maybe she needs to quit being a class F bitch and be a better person, period.
Oh, and trust me, fans are noticing that she's not doing well in terms of business given that the One Tree Hill reboot is being done without consulting the rest of the cast... just like the prequel. Two strikes. Joy and James just spoke out about how they weren't consulted about the reboot.
There's nothing to stan about Danneel. There's nothing good to stan about Misha.
There is good to stan about Jared. And in my humble opinion, there's good to stan about Jensen too.
You can't avoid negativity. It's around everywhere. Celebrities are accustomed to it. A wise celebrity would avoid it.
I only object when fans literally send death threats or wishes that the celebrity would die.
I don't do any of that. I would denounce it in a heartbeat if someone tried to claim they did it in my name. Many of the other blogs I follow are the same. @laf-outloud also stated correctly that if someone was sending Jensen death threats to let us know as we would absolutely report and block as well.
It's okay to disagree in an fandom. It's okay to have negative opinions about folks. I draw the line at outright bullying, death threats, and threats of violence.
I've already received several death threats and threats of violence from fanatical AAs and hellers.
Why do you think I kept anon asks off for a while?
Nice talkin' to ya.
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I used to watch "Dark Angel" religiously, but I was just a little shit, so I don't remember Jensen at all. 😂 I got tired of SPN after a while, but The Boys refueled my interest in Jensen 'cause he was really good. I'd like to see Misha in more projects too, I feel like Jensen and Misha have more potential than Jared (sorry Jay). But you know, there's nothing wrong with doing cons, JJM seem to enjoy it a lot. Chris though... I feel like he'd hate it, even tho I still think it's in his future.
You don't remember Jensen Ackles, who single handedly stole almost all the attention away from Michael Weatherly and was the cause for some of the drama behind the scenes because of his popularity?
This Jensen?:
Who had one episode as Ben, the x5 who went on a murder spree and Max had to kill so he wouldn't be taken back to Manticore and put with the "nomlies"? Who after that one episode convinced the makers to bring him back in a bigger role because they liked his work? Who was an instant hit with the viewers?
Or Alec who was supposed to be the bad guy but turned out to be fun and charming and who made Max look like a sour puss and Logan boring? Who has great expressions and deliveries of his lines?
You forgot about him?? 😲
I tried watching supernatural after dark angel, but i couldn't get into it, so forgot and then something got me on a jensen bender and i gave it another try and i got really into it. Until s5. Then i stopped buying the seasons dvds,and life interrupted, and then suddenly there were lots of other seasons that had passed me which they did suddenly send out (my country is really good with not showing anything, or behind your back years later continuing on a different channel at different times) ... and so i have watched some episodes of some later seasons, but missed a lot too.
Haven't watched the boys yet. I am on poor men's tv, and don't know how to be able to watch it without spending a lot more money and a lot more effort to find ways to see it. But i do want to watch it because Jensen is looking so so good...😳
And yeah i think those two might be easier to get a variety of roles and have proven to play different characters well.
Although look at the acting Jared shows in a Christmas Cottage, where his cry scene is top notch... I'm so sorry jared, it's just what i remember all these years later, is that it was a lot.
At least he's looking cozy and they styled his hair. It's almost unnerving.
Oh look i found some gifs to give you the idea if you haven't seen it:
I mean i want to add all of them, but you should really see for yourself. It's a lot! A lot.
And look at how different Jensen cries. I think we all wish we could look like this crying. We probably look more like Jared...
Shall i see how misha cries? Or is this post already too long? Ah who cares?
This is overused...
This one's weird
This is a picture of Toby Maguire crying, which has nothing to do with this whole subject but jeez it's ugly.
I was going to try to put Jeffrey in here, but tumblr said enough! Which might be wise but annoying.
As for your last sentence, there's a lot of Chris's. Chris Evans, Chris(tian) Kane, Chris Martin whose music i don't listen to, or know anything about and i don't think he does cons. What would he even talk about.
I hope it's not Chris Martin because I don't want to look him up and find anything out. Not that i hate him, i just never think of him. He just came up as one of the chris's in a search. He looks like a lot of British singers had a lovebaby together.
If it's chris evans, i feel he'll like the first one, does okay with the second, grows tired and bored an annoyed and anxious by the time the third one comes around. Honestly the crowds, inappropriate questions and the constant noise would wear me out very quickly too, so i can't blame him. They seem fun but once in a while.
Thanks for sending the ask, it probably wasn't what your were looking for👍
#toby maguire#well he is in the post#supernatural#misha collins#jensen ackles#jared padalecki#jeffrey dean morgan#crying#which was not the subject anon talked about#but I'm nothing if not sufficient in derailing a conversation#I'm sure anon regrets ever sending me an ask now#answered ask#but not in the way intended
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Top 5 times Misha ruined supernatural
Wow that's a great one @chiazu thank you!!
I mean I could just say by being himself and ugly but you said top 5 so here goes.
I will try and make this all Misha and not Asstiel moments.
Top 5 times Misha ruined Supernatural.
1.) Sucking up to Singer. Alot of things I will mention here is due to the fact Misha sucked up to Singer and became his little pet. Eye bags is smart and knows whose ass to kiss.
2.) Staying WELL over his time. Asstiel never should have came out of that lake in S7. But again friends with Singer, so when Sera fucked up the budget and Singer got more control of course eye bags comes back. And Misha says yes because again he knows he will NEVER get a gig like SPN again.
3.) Forcing his way into photoshoots. Again cause he was friends with Singer (and took a pay cut cause the man is just an attention whore and cares more about being seen then money.) He gets to be the 3rd wheel and stick out like an ugly sore thumb off the show now as well as on it. Also then his fans think he is a lead. Lol no.
4.) Taking away from Mark.S finally SPN scene/Crowley dying. I think this was more Singer/Dabb giving Mark.S a big fuck you. Just like taking him out of the bloopers in S12. For daring to point somethings out to them. But I'm sure Misha really had to be forced into getting attention too. Having Asstiel die in a lame way isn't a bad thing. I mean it's what his character deserves but to do it right after Crowley and when we all knew Asstiel would be back yeah. Fuck Singer and Misha for that one. They would rather piss off one of the few good actors on the show and keep the useless dead weight cause one sucks up to them while other who can act btw dares to say something.
5.) Now the show is over instead of being thankful and showing appreciation to the show that put up with his talentless ass. Eye bags forever the classy good looking man he is. Wants attention and pandering to shippers only does so much. So now he wants everyone to believe he was picked on and he had a smaller trailer then J2.
Well duh you fucking cunt, your an over the hill bad actor, side character. While they are the stars of the fucking show. You wouldn't have a job without them. Remember you didn't have a job for over a year without them? Singer go only do so much for you.
And that he didn't enjoy working on the show. While not outright saying J2 where Jerks to him (cause he still needs to let on to Cockley cunts he and Jensen are BFFs in RL.) But hinting enough to get sympathy and make J2/SPN look bad.
He can't even lie convincingly because if the show was that bad and the environment so awful. Why come back after S7? Why take a pay cut to stay on? Why cry like a bitch when you found out J2 wanted to move on?
I know you said 5 things which I did but you can't mention Misha ruining Supernatural and not mention the worst ship ever.
Bonus mention!!!!
Another way Misha ruined the show and the fandom was Destiel.
While yes Misha didn't come up with it and there is nothing wrong with ships and shipping. Fuck every show/Movie we watch or book we read we all ship something. Some don't even make sense or aren't canon cause thats the beauty of shipping.
Unless you are a loser that tries to make fake ships canon and then cry queer bait and how everyone is homophobic for not shipping you ship. Get a life no one likes you. Just FYI 🤪
But Misha ever the loser and attention whore. Has made the Destiel ship and Destiehellers one of the most entitled loud bunch of unlikeable cry babies ever to exist in a fandom and thats saying alot.
So thats why it gets a special message. XD
In short Misha is gross inside and out and seeing less of him is amazing.
Thank you for the ask anon. That was fun.
If anymore has anymore send them my way.
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I know I said I wasn't going to talk about this, but I woke up to SO MANY god damn asks, and I'm seeing so many weird/dumb/offensive speculations that I hope I can post something that will maybe squash some of the chaos, because frankly ... it shouldn't be chaotic at all.
Yes, Misha stated in his poetry book that he and Vicki are now separated, but ...
SEPARATED DOES NOT MEAN DIVORCED!
So, whether they will eventually divorce or not-- who knows, it's none of our business, but at the moment, they are simply separated; and the specifics of their separation are again-- entirely none of our business.
Now that that's out of the way, onto some of the dumbass theories that I've been seeing:
No, I don't think Misha left Vicki for Darius.
No, I don't think Misha left Vicki for Jensen.
No, I will not elaborate.
I won't speculate on the "why" this happened or the "when" but all I will say is-- that as someone who is currently married to a person who I have quite literally grown up with, those relationships are tough. There is a lot of romance around the idea of "high school sweethearts" and "knowing everything about each other" and yeah, it can be nice to share so much history, but that also creates a level of co-dependency that can be hard to either break free from, or navigate your way back to if you do break free. The one time that my husband (then-boyfriend) and I kinda separated (we did spend time apart but it wasn't long) was when our own responsibilities and goals kept us apart for extended periods of time. We also had different priorities through all of it. I had just finished school and was working towards my goals. I was relishing in my interdependence and freedom of choice, but my husband was just starting school. His priorities were sticking to a program that mapped out his days for him, and he expected me to be there waiting to support him the second he came up for air. And of course, I did support him as much as I could, but I was also trying to focus on myself for the first time in my life. Neither of us were in the wrong, but we were on two different paths, and we weren't sure at the time if those paths could run alongside each other. It was hard. We almost didn't make it, but we eventually compromised, we spent the next year learning to trust one another again and eventually, we got married and are very happy together.
Does that mean that we're set for life now? I hope so, but ... who knows? We are still two individuals. We are individuals who love each other and want to be together, but when you support and love someone for being who they are, you also need to accept who they might become.
My only thoughts on all of this in relation to Misha and Vicki are that they got together at a very young age. They were in high school, but over the last thirty years, they have grown a lot and have become two amazing and kind individuals, both with very full and busy lives.
I hope that their paths will run alongside each other once again, but even if they don't, I am sure that their hearts will hold onto one another for the rest of their days.
So, for their sake, for their kids' sake, and for the sake of all of us here in the fandom, please understand at very least that adult relationships like this are far too complex and important to boil down to some high school level drama bullshit.
And please, for the love of God ... stop sending me messages trying to get me to support your theories.
Be kind. Be respectful. Be supportive.
Thanks for reading.
#Misha Collins#Vicki Vantoch#relationships#can be hard#and I feel like most of these theories are coming from young people#who might not have ever been in a relationship before#or at least#not in one that lasted more than a few months at a time#This relationship is very very different#and kids are involved#so I can't imagine how hard this is for both Vicki and Misha#I just really hope they find happiness and peace#no matter if that's together or apart#and I hope their kids understand#my parents splitting up was THE ABSOLUTE BEST THING FOR EVERYONE#but my parents also hated each other#that is obviously not the case here#so it's probably much harder on the kids#oh my heart hurts for them#I just want them all to be happy#and I don't want any of this fandom BS to get back to them in any way#so stop it#stop it all of you
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This ask is a bit long, so my apologies, but I did provide links and times, so I hope that helps.
So JIBCon 12 is this weekend and it’s just past Saturday and already Jensen has made a few comments that have both AAs and Jared stans losing their minds, the former calling him a sassy king and the later calling him a backstabbing jerk to Jared. So, Jared couldn’t make it to the con because of scheduling with Walker (Richard also cancelled and Matt's flight was cancelled so he is missing the con, too). So, the first apparently sassy/deplorable thing Jensen said was a joke about him almost not making it and the people who couldn’t make it at about 2:30-2:55 min ( https://youtu.be/ZQ25vdTq6Oo). So, both sides who are delighted/ outraged are saying this is a dig at Jared and either praising Jensen or crucifying him for throwing Jared under the bus. Based on the tone, I don’t feel like Jensen was being particularly shady, but I could see him being annoyed Jared didn’t come. What are your thoughts based on his tone?
Also, Jensen and Misha joked that Jared sent them a pic from his pool with Jensen suggesting EPs can slack off and make their own schedules, but he followed it up with saying Jared was bummed to miss it at about 29:25-30:50 ( https://youtu.be/9F0hGjPIiz4 ). I think their joking is a bit lame and clumsy, but I don’t think they are actually crapping on Jared here, but some are claiming Jensen should know better than to give AAs fuel. But, I don’t think they need fuel to go on a Jared hate spree. I also think Jensen and Misha's clumsy joke was awkward, but was also setting up what would happen later when Jared joined the con live during Misha's panel at around 9:23 ( https://youtu.be/aOU2WOu4JeM ). Some are saying Jared saw Jensen and Misha being salty about him on Twitter and was showing them up by joining the convention, and others were saying Jared was rude to interrupt Misha's panel. But, seriously, to get him up on screen the con organizers had to know this was coming, no? Thus, Jensen and Misha also knew, so they were just setting things up? Do you have any thoughts on this?
If you are able to take a minute to reply, thank you in advance. I don’t particularly have a dog in this fight, but I’m interested in your opinion as you seem to be a pretty neutral party and can see beyond the stan high emotions. Is Jensen sing an ass and shading Jared, or is he just being snarky, kind of thoughtless?
Fans never have the power they think have, especially from a handful of non-paying basement dwellers.
In the first clip, Jensen said "they send their....they didn't say shit", obviously plural since "they" is not Jared's official pronoun. Richard is the unofficial MoC, and Matt serves similar capacity at cons. Including Jared's absence, JibCon is missing the top 3 hosts that carries the con. You know Jensen is feeling the pressure to carry the entire weekend. I saw on the dash that con-goers were reporting that the energy level was way down and hoping that Jensen's arrival will magically change everything.
In the second clip the crowd didn't react to the jokes by Jensen and Misha, either because the crowd didn't understand the tone of the joke because English is not their 1st language or because they were still bummed over Jared's absence.
Remember kids, drama is easy, comedy is hard. Comedy is even harder to translate into another culture.
I agree it was a clumsy set up for Jared's virtual appearance during Misha's panel. These things are planned and arranged ahead of time. Lol no Jared was not being salty over Jensen and Misha’s joke, I think this set up would have gone better over with an American audience because at least the men would understand the joke as males love to riff on eachother. Men socialise by insulting each other, but don’t really mean. It’s a way to toughen each other up, because if you can’t take some good-natured ego jabs from your boy, how can you stand up to your true enemies? If you can hold your own against me, you’re my equal blah blah it’s a guy thing.
From what I’ve seen of the con so far, the actors are on their better behavior, though maybe because the usual suspects are missing and filled in by one last minute replacement, so the vibe between them are off.
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How Robert Berens Made Destiel Canon
or The Beautifully Tragic Road to Destiel
in honor of their one month anniversary, i want to talk about robert berens and how he made it his mission to make destiel canon and the care he took approaching their relationship...
i dont know if this has been pointed out before, but i was looking at the episodes bobo berens wrote when i realized something: he wrote all the significant destiel episodes in s15. i think that means he probably planned to make destiel canon long before s15 started:
he hid a love story inside the monster story. a love story told in five parts:
• initiating event
• rising action
• climax (first twist)
• falling action
• second twist (no resolution)
14x18: absence - “initiating event”
the initiating event introduces the conflict and sets events into motion in a story.
in absence, cas reveals to dean that jack might not have a soul and therefore might not know that hurting his mother was wrong. this angers dean and results in dean telling cas “youre dead to me”. this initiates a chain of events that lead their relationship to experience a tear (or rupture).
15x03: the rupture - “rising action”
the rising action is the result of a character trying to (in this case) solve a problem but a force is at conflict with the character. for every step taken, there is either a successful or failed outcome; this pattern continues all the way to the climax.
complications in dean and cas’s relationship continue to widen the distance between them into the start of season 15 with the deaths of rowena and belphagor (for which dean blames cas) culminating in the infamous “breakup” scene. cas said there was nothing left for him anymore and leaves dean.
15x08: our father who arent in heaven - “rising action”
bobo didnt write this episode but its important to the path because rowena tells dean and cas to fix their relationship in the same episode that michael sends them to purgatory (aka the place dean realized he was in love with cas all those years ago and where they fixed their relationship the first time)
15x09: the trap - ‘climax & first twist”
the climax is the most emotional part of the story and is reached when the character takes the final step to resolve their problem. this is also where the turning point of the story begins and descends to the falling action (and if there is a plot twist, it happens here).
the first twist: dean confesses first. this scene is deans confession disguised as an apology. he might lose cas and needed him to know hes sorry. the prayer scene is so important because, if we read the scene, this is in fact, an apology, but its so much more than that. dean responds to cas’s “i left but you didnt stop me” with “i should have stopped you”. this scene showed just how much dean has grown, how much he’s trying and how much he wants to be free of the anger he feels because he realized it was what separated him from the man he loves on multiple occasions. this is deans way of saying “im sorry. i didnt mean anything i said. you are the most important person in my life and i let you leave. i shouldnt have let you leave. thats my fault. im trying to get better. please tell me you’re gonna be okay. tell me this isnt the last time i’ll ever see you. please. i love you”.
dean and cas reunite near the rift but dean doesnt want to leave before telling cas something. we know it cant be the prayer because its obvious cas heard that; this is something else, but cas stops him. this scene is them making amends with each other the best way they know how: a silent knowing. the conflict has finally been resolved.
15x12: galaxy brain - “falling action”
the falling action consists of the after-effects of the climax and every event from here onward should lead to a logical conclusion.
dean and cas’s relationship is better, they seem at peace. the silent knowing is definitely there, and they both seem comfortable the way they left things. the way things are going, they’ll likely have as much a “happy” ending as a fallen angel and a hunter can have without talking about this silent knowing. we cant forget about the looming empty deal, but knowing cas will never be truly happy, it seems like dean and cas are going to be friends for a long time...
15x18: despair - “second twist”
after the falling action comes the resolution. sometimes in film and television, a surprise second twist will occur after the climax and toss the characters into another fight. the second twist is resolved quicker than the first and leads to a speedy resolution.
the second twist here, however, replaces the resolution because the story of destiel sadly and infuriatingly, never got its resolution.
i feel like bobo was told cas was going to get killed off and thats why he knew there was no way the network would allow dean to reciprocate so he did the best he could to work around the homophobia and make destiel canon as much as possible for us.
this is the most “resolution” we were given by a show we spent years watching and loving. we rooted for the characters, we fought as much for their happiness as they did themselves. and it ended up stabbing jensen, misha, bobo, other cast members, some writers and the fans in the back.
deans face here is all i have left to hold on to and thats not fair. and its not fair that after all these years this is what they did to one of the most complex love stories ever told. not only that, but dean and cas were also some of the complex characters ever put to screen. this is not a good ending for them and it never will be. not until they both get the endings they deserve, as individuals and as one. and im sorry for the pain all this mess has caused and would like nothing more than to squeeze everyone really tight and tell you it’ll be okay.
#destiel#cockles#jensen literally approved of misha and bobos plans for destiel#i mean whenever jensen directed he made sure there were destiel scenes#he WANTED dean and cas to become more intimate#dean and cas deserved to speak their truth and be happy together#not to mention a majority of destiel shippers and dean and cas stans are#lgbtq#so thats just another big fuck you on top of the spits and slaps to our faces with that finale#im sorry to get so negative in a post thats supposed to be positive and bring levity to the darkness we've had this past month#i just cant help but feel so much anger#for robert berens#for jensen#for misha#for us#anyways always remember#destiel is fucking canon#and#homosexual declaration of love#deancas#dean winchester#dean#castiel#cas#supernatural#supernatural final season#spn#bobo berens#jensen ackles#jensen
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