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Maybe Walker getting cancelled has a silver lining? It didnât really become part of the zeitgeist and most people will remember the OG Texas Ranger instead. The Fire Country spin-off will definitely reach a wider audience. It would be nice to see Jared gain a new fanbase that didnât just follow him from SPN.
99% of tv shows don't become part of the cultural zeitgeist, even popular shows that win awards. Walker seemed to have been the best ideal work situation for everyone involved, especially for Jared after spending 15 years thousands of miles away from his family.
That said you are correct that Jared will gain a new fanbase. His current fanbase is half mainstream because of Gilmore Girls and half niche because of Supernatural, both mini-cultural zeitgeist shows. Whether the Fire Country spin-off becomes another mini-zeitgeist is irrelevant, the goal is for more mainstream viewers to discover Jared.
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Did you see about misha's cringe Livestream on politics?? Jensen looked like he really didn't want to be there and Jared didn't even bother. https://www.instagram.com/p/DAjjsWQyPHE/
Do you think Jensen only did that for Kripke because I've never known him to be political.
I didn't see the livestream, just the screenshots and reactions. Kripke fancy himself as the smartest man in the room while stroking himself over how Karl Marx wasn't really a bad dude.
Lol @ Jensen's curmudgeon "act".
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Do you think that OTH reboot has any chance? Danneel hasn't posted a thing about it...at all. Sophia and Hilarie are doing damage control acting like they're inviting back everyone...even though they were never the main characters. It seems there is no real story here. Sounds DOA if you ask me.
My prediction is OTH fans seeing the reboot is going to be like Gordon Ramsay seeing microwaved food.
Spinoff shows need both its loyal legacy fans and new general fans. The OTH reboot sounds like a Post-Fandom show that was made without regard to its legacy fans, so the odds are not in their favor. Â
The lasting success of any show largely depends on the chemistry between its two leads and the likeability of its lead protagonist, so the pilot and the following two episodes will be telling. Audience will forgive a movie or show for their meandering plots, mediocre acting, and butchering canon as long as it was crafted with love by the actors, directors, and producers. While all projects are cash grabs, but not all cash grabs are equal because it comes down to the amount of love (or lack of) for the project by the actors, writers, directors, and producers.
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Hi, how are you?
I wanted to ask, we know that Jared has not stopped working since Supernatural ended.
He had offers even before Supernatural and Walker ended.
So my question is, do JP's agents still give him scripts for possible series or movies?
Do they still submit Jared's name for auditions?
Throughout these years until now do you think Jared received offers to do movies?
Until the moment you retired, did you hear that Jared's name had been associated with any movie production?
Hi friend, very very busy which I'll expand on later in this post.
Yes and yes after agents sort through factors such as salary, cast, production team, etc. Scripts are just one piece of the puzzle. I've seen great scripts ruined by bad production and terrible scrips filmed with high standards.
As for movies, Jared did received offers for low budget movies, but his manager has always steered him towards television because that's where the money is. The timeless joke is movie stars can get a seat at a restaurant anytime while television stars can buy the restaurant.
Jared's surname is unusual so I had vague recollection of his name attached to Whatever it Takes, a teen modern version of Cyrano de Bergerac. After 10 Things I Hate About You and Cruel Intentions were hits, Hollywood tried to capitalize on taking old classics and "retelling" them in modern teen settings.
Nowadays I haven't heard much other than gossips that studios think they can get at least 3 more television series from Jared. David Boreanaz and Nathan Fillion are 55 and 53 respectively so there's been speculation they good for one and two more tv series as leads respectively. Half the reasons why I've been relatively absent from this hell site is because my old job hired me as a consultant. Casting is one of the hardest aspects of this business, for both low and big budget films. So between my new part time job and my current full time job and holiday family obligations quickly descending upon us, free time to trigger AAs on this hell site is rarer by the day.
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why did the agents of CAA move UTA. if they are the biggest one, why did their agents leave?
A few reasons. Some agents were originally from UTA and then returned to UTA because the original bosses they clashed at UTA are no longer there. Other agents didn't like CAA's new business model that expanded into sport clients and so more resources were allocated into that area. UTA took advantage by stirring the pot and promising new and returning agents bigger paydays i.e. partnerships, which was what Jared's agent Jason Heyman took.
"The expected influx of talent from Heyman and Lesak in particular greatly enhance UTAâs ability to package film and TV projects soup-to-nuts, pairing showrunners and screenwriters with marquee stars and directors." - (X)
The agents messaged CAA their letter of resignation at 9:15 am and then arrived at UTA by 10 a.m. to start their new jobs. CAA reacted by mounting a scorched-earth investigation on how the largest defection in history happened under their nose.
After agent #12 left CAA for UTA, we joked that in order to stanch the commission bleed from the missing 150+ actors and talents, CAA should just call themselves UTA and hope some of their agents stay out of confusion.
With that said, talent agencies poach from each other all the time, it's business 101 in every industry.
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Hello friend, so idk if you saw this but Netflix put Wildfire (Genevieve's old tv show) on Netflix. Idk how popular the show use to be back in the day, but I know it's pretty old like 2008.
Do you think this has anything to do with Jared at all? Like maybe he's getting a Netflix deal or something? Or did Netflix just decide to do something random like that?
Wildfire sounds like it had a fairly passionate fanbase so that's a plus in Netflix's business model. I doubt it has anything to do with Jared. I haven't seen Wildfire but somehow I see it mentioned on my TL from time to time.
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You mentioned Danneel is also represented by Gersh. She doesn't act, nor has she really worked in ages apart from pretending to produce a prequel no one wanted. I'm curious: why does she have representation and does Gersh make any money off of her?
As far as I recall, Danneel was repped by Gersh since 2008, which was during the height of her career from One Tree Hill and Harold & Kumar franchise. Danneel didn't work between 2014 and 2018 and my guess she was hip-pocketed during that time, meaning she was still represented by Gersh and her manager, but she doesn't have a contract with them. Hip-pocketed actors are just kind of there in case higher tier actors doesn't fit the roles. Jensen joining Gersh in 2014 may have helped Danneel from getting dropped during the annual drop season. What is drop season you ask? I'm glad you ask. After March or April, agents take a close look at their client pool and see who hasnât made any money for the company and doesnât show potential for future jobs, especially if they donât get callbacks.  Sometimes itâs not about money, I've known agents who dropped actors because they wouldn't update their headshots. Agents' usual motto is âlife is too shortâ to deal with actors who aren't cooperating. In general, actors are given at least one year to prove themselves. After that, everyoneâs head is on the chopping block during Drop Season.Â
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I didn't know daneel ackles had so many failed projects. I wonder how good one tree hill will do?
Danneel was on Joey? *google that crap* Oy, I remember now and that gawd awful baby voice, no wonder I repressed their scenes and not because of the pseudo-incesty thing, but because she was that awful.
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Technically actor Danneel has just one failed project as the co-lead of Friends with Benefits where she allegedly thought will make her the next Jennifer Aniston. She guest starred/recurred on short-lived tv shows, she is no more responsible for tanking those shows anymore than Misha "saving" SPN from cancellation (X) (X).
If I were to take a gander, One Tree Hill reboot/sequel will be just as successful as Sex and the City reboot/sequel, meaning original fans will hate it with righteous passion over breaking up two popular couples (one by death and other by queer awakening), and most of the original actors returned for the latter show.
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I hope you enjoyed chasing those windmills đ
I have read that Jared and Jensen are repped by different agencies, Jared is with UTA and Jensen is with Gersh.
How do these agencies rank in Hollywood and what criteria does an actor usually use to choose which agency to work with?
Also, Jared appears to have one rep. (Jason Heyman) and Jensen has three (Alexander Yarosh, Bob Gersh, and Leslie Seibert). Does it mean anything that Jensen has more reps?
I know nothing about how these agencies work (obviously) but am interested to know what the difference is.
I found this information on IMDb Pro, I canât figure out how to link it Iâm sorry.
Those windmills turn out to be faster than they look. Who knew.
The "Big Three of Hollywoodâ talent agencies are :
Creative Artists Agency (CAA). The biggest and most influential agency in town known for their A-listers and sports clients. Recently bought ICM, an agency mostly known for representing high-tier showrunners/writers like Shona Rhimes, so they're known for (sometimes infamous) packaging bundle. Many agents have left CAA to go to UTA.
William Morris Endeavor (WME). A merge between two agencies in 2009 created another powerhouse agency and upped their game in events management.
United Talent Agency (UTA). Probably the most adaptable agency that includes news broadcasters and comedy clients. UTA likes to boast they represent the "most watched and celebrated actors in film and television".
The 4th position (X) is a battlefield of competing mid-size agencies looking to possible merge: Gersh Agency, A3 Artists Agency, Paradigm Talent Agency, Agency for Performing Arts (APA), and Verge Agency. Then there are the boutique agencies.
Actors choose the agencies based on the work they want to do i.e. commercials, modeling, or television/movies. Some boutique agencies specialize in children actors so there are age ranges to consider. Talents send in submissions of headshots, resume, and cover letters. As an actor grow, they move to bigger agencies, usually with submissions. In-demand actors generally don't send submissions to the Big Three Agencies, the agencies go to them.
Jared was originally represented by CAA and Jensen was originally represented by WME.
Jared's agent, Jason Heyman, was poached by UTA during a "midnight raid" in 2015 through 2019 and Jared decided to go iwth him to UTA while Melissa McCarthy stayed behind with CAA. Heyman went from a high post at CAA to a partnership at UTA, so for him itâs a promotion. Â
Jensen either left or was dropped by WME and he signed onto Gersh in 2014, who also represents Danneel. This was probably the best move for him because at WME he was always given to newbie agents (basically interns) to handle his career.
Actors can be repped by more than one agent or agencies in order to handle their brand in different markets as well as minimizing conflict of interests. Â Iâve known actors who had 3 agents: one for voice work, another for commercial work, and a third for tv/film - maybe that's why Jensen has 3 representatives in one agency? Â Then there are actors with just 1 agent for the same things but in different markets, maybe that's why Jared has 1 agent that we know of.
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Shogun broke the record for Emmys won in a single season. I think they all deserved it. I loved it. Have you seen it? What do you think?
From the reviews it sounds like a very good adaptation. I've only seen the 1980's mini series version starring Richard Chamberlain.
I'll be interested in seeing this latest version.
I also want to see Silence, about Jesuit priests sent to 17th century Japan to find out the fate of their fellow priest.
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Dean is the most iconic character on SPN because cliche bad boy and caricatures with more exaggerated personality traits tend to stand out in the mind of viewers. Sam was more subtle and nuanced.
I think you're confusing iconic with popularity. Dean Winchester's bad boy with a heart of gold trope is a popular archetype, but it's not the same as iconic. There are many popular bad boy characters, but they're not exactly memorable when it comes to storylines.
While watching a Supernatural episode, Iâm more drawn to Dean because heâs more fun to watch. The next day I remember the same episode through Samâs actions and interactions. I end up kind of forgetting what Dean did in part because he remains the same character from start to finish, both in the episode and the entire series.
So I remember Supernatural through Sam's hero journey arcs because he is a dynamic character who went from a college student naive about the supernatural world, to becoming a skilled and effective hunter and then a leader and later a father figure to a future God, and finally a father with a family of his own.  Dean was essentially the same character from start to finish but that's fine for a support-protagonist, in fact it was essential for the show's formula.
Characters become iconic by; 1) being memorable when they are taken out of their time and setting and remains admirable, fascinating, or frightening regardless of time and location. Or 2) due to excellence of a trait i.e. malevolence or sweetness or determination or whatever. If you were reading a book on management theory and you saw a picture of Darth Vader, youâd have a pretty good idea what sort of manager theyâre talking about.
Going by the second requirement, Dean Winchester could be an iconic character in that whenever I see a picture of him, I think of his supernatural devotion to Sam Winchester. But that's not what the Ackles Army want, and to some extent not what Jensen wants either. Just see his prequel idea.
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How can it be that castiel is the most iconic character of spn?
Haha thanks, I needed a laugh today. That's like saying Joxer is the most iconic character of Xena Warrior Princess. I know what you're saying right now. "Joxer who?"
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Passports in hand and we're taking off after assuring our cats we will come back. We're off to fight some windmills.
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https://deadline.com/2024/09/jared-padalecki-cbs-studios-deal-fire-country-spinoff-1236079779/
Wow, a little surprised we have such public confirmation. Good for him though! Love that they didn't want to lose him.
The first press release nearly a month ago mentioned the spinoff and "Keeping Padalecki in the fold has been a priority for CBS Studios following the end of Walkerâ. The 2nd press released further confirmation that it's pretty much a done deal.
Besides leading two successful shows where the industry business model sees 98% failure rates for shows from script to airing (X),  Jared is credited for creating a working set with an enviable reputation of being a good place to work (X). This puts Jared in good stead with producers who tend to prioritize reliability. Hollywood is just as much about reputation as performance.
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Jared signed a new first look deal with CBS https://deadline.com/2024/09/jared-padalecki-cbs-studios-deal-fire-country-spinoff-1236079779/
Will he still be able to act on other networks, and do The Boys for example? Do you think his deal is sweeter than Jensen's Amazon deal?
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Yes he will be able to act on other networks as long as it doesn't interfere with his commitment to CBS.
Yes because the pay is higher. Plus CBS is a legacy network and studio and know how to produce tv shows. Amazon belatedly realizes producing television is hard so theyâve turned to production services deals. People have previously said that working for Amazon Studios is like floating without a rudder: no leadership, no creativity, and no vision. Maybe things improved at Amazon since then ÂŻ\_(ă)_/ÂŻ
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The Jared doesnât want a spinoff Anon is at it again:
https://www.tumblr.com/walkergirlsposts/760924297799860224/meet-and-greet-anon-here-and-what-i-said-was-jared
I donât want to say that M&G anon is lying, but saying Jared said he full on doesnât want a spinoff ⌠or to do surfing scenes ⌠seems like a weird thing for Jared to say when several articles like this are still/again coming out:
https://x.com/deadline/status/1832109025779183877?s=61&t=kVyYZFyDcANVMAVTMNa5xw
Surly not EVERYONE from Kripke to CBS is just pressuring Jared and he doesnât want to actually do anything. CBS seems to be pushing the spinoff pretty hard, and I doubt theyâd do that if Jared has refused to do it.
You were right about him having a new/renewed deal with CBS, though. đ
Link. The M&G Anon never got back to me after my last question to if they have a tumblr account or not. It's sus that this anon is going to a Jared blog and a Jared-adjacent blog sharing their alleged M&G experience. It's more likely that they saw our screenshots in Natasha's tweets and wanted to ....I dunno, kill hopes and dreams even though I don't care, and others actually know Jared's M.O?
While Jared has said before in his M&Gs that he plans to retire after SPN ends, fans noticed he stopped saying that around 2017 or 2018 ish and that's because he signed a holding deal with CBS studios. No way that Jared would say he doesn't want a spin off in his M&G unless the Anon misunderstood his tone. He might be still in negotiation on the eventual permanent filming location. Pilots are often filmed in California and then move to a new location for the remainder of the series i.e. Supernatural and Ghosts pilots were filmed in L.A and Pasadena respectively before moving to Canada.
"You were right about him having a new/renewed deal with CBS, though."
Yup, the article literally said he re-upped his talent deal with CBS studios.
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M&G anon, so what you're saying is you do not have a tumblr account?
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