#legacy of the sith spoilers

[parseolegacy]

[I'm writing this at 3:30 am so I apologise for the fact that this is probably unorganised as balls] On the topic of the Old Republic Jedi I've noticed a sharp shift in how the Jedi are written in the newer expansions of SWTOR- especially when it comes to who they take on as members. Spoilers for 7.5, Jedi Consular & Jedi Knight origin & under the cut. ALSO LONG, PROBABLY

In the most recent update and in the 4th Galactic season there are moments/stories about how the Jedi won't take a certain person in- Arn comments that the Jedi probably won't take a group of newly force-sensitive people you rescued in 7.5 (you don't even get the opportunity to have him reach out, he's THAT sure that asking isn't worth it) and Amity (The season 4 companion from last year) had a storyline about him being rejected from the Jedi for being 'too old'. But BASE SWTOR has 4 notable npcs I can name off the top of my head that start training as adults without their age causing this massive friction- one of these was incredibly aggressive and a danger to the Jedi order and two of these were adult Sith! (I am also excluding Nadia because she is a special case, but she's still also someone who fully started training from scratch as an adult. So the number technically goes up to five. Jaric Kaedan, a member of the Jedi council, also started training at 12. Which, while not an adult, is still significantly older than younglings commonly seen in the prequel-era.) Padawan Fia is an NPC on Tython that gives you a quest and talks about how she was brought in recently and she's seemingly around 18-19.~ Nalen Raloch is a Twi'lek village fighter from the Consular prologue who is accepted to train as a Jedi if you choose to recommend him- he is your enemy in the prologue and attempts to destroy the Jedi Order. The next two, which come up in the Jedi knight story, is the Sith Lord Praven and a former Dark Council member turned Padawan you meet on Quesh. (I unfortunately forgot his name. Whoops.) Two fully adult Sith who have trained to use their anger in a way that is completely counter to Jedi teachings are still allowed to train as Jedi when they show that they want to. When Jedi tend to reject people from the order it's because for whatever reason they believe it's impossible or far too difficult for that person to control their attachments and emotions well enough to live like a Jedi. When a DARK COUNCIL MEMBER, someone who has lived for years in a deeply corrupt society, as a leader no less, is allowed to join after a fight with a Jedi Council member, I struggle to see how the group of people in 7.5 who were very briefly held captive and suddenly awakened the force are such a sudden risk to the Jedi Order in the Old Republic. Arn is incredibly dismissive of you in the aforementioned 7.5 scene, where he scoffs and says 'unless they've already started Jedi training, they'll be turned away.' Since when? (As far as I can find any rough timeline after research) When during the roughly 17 years since the start of the game did this shift occur, exactly? I find it incredibly hard to believe that this just happened, especially after the war with Zakuul while the Jedi order is building itself back up- it would be a completely nonsensical decision after losing so many of their numbers. This is simply not the time where a force-order, formerly pretty liberal with who gets to join (especially if they have even a single Jedi vouching for them,) cuts off loads of potential new members when many of the current adult Jedi were trained & reached their master positions in a time when letting people in was the norm. This is especially jarring when playing a Consular- who asks Arn with this hesitant "I know that certain allowances would need to be made," when your first significant decision can very well be to have Nalen receive Jedi training, and the decision goes over extremely smoothly. Rather than this being a conscious worldbuilding choice, due to how sudden and unexplained it is in-world, it feels like writers are losing familiarity with the previous material- at least to me. Or worse, that a prevalent fandom attitude has started to worm its way into the writing of the game over its own pre-established worldbuilding.

Been seeing comment on the Acolyte. People acting the whole:

“She was a child!”

“You brought her here.”

Was a good gotcha moment against the Jedi or “he makes a good point.” One dude even said “can’t argue with that.”

Watch me.

Killing Jecki

First of all, Sol did not bring Jecki to fight Mae’s Master. He brought her as a part of an ongoing investigation that she’s been a part of and they were going to try to warn a fellow Jedi and/or make an arrest on Mae. He DID NOT KNOW that the would encounter essentially a Sith.

Qimir didn’t have to kill her. Jedi have knocked out enemies and he could’ve as well.

“It was self defense” OH??? He attacked the Jedi first. He was out to KILL. HE made that choice. Y’all don’t excuse Anakin slaughtering younglings so why this guy? Because he’s a Sith? (We’ll get into that and “Force monopoly” in a minute).

“It’s commentary on how Jedi put their Padawans in danger!”

What does Sol and other Jedi do when suddenly facing a greater danger expected with their Padawans? What’s the order? Run. MAYBE another order like “get these people out” “or finish this original plan and leave.” But still, it’s to get their Padawans to safety. They will hold off the enemy to give their students safety. They even go as far as sacrificing themselves to do so.

“He’s a Sith what did you expect?”

Briefly touching this. It’s not because of my expectations of Sith, I know they do horrid things. It’s why y’all are excusing the action, especially just to spite the Jedi?

“Jedi were not letting anyone outside their Order to use the Force!”

I see this often and I’m worried this is what the show going for, so I’m gonna debunk this right now.

It’s not disallowing others using the Force. There are so many other cultures that use the Force and the Jedi usually leave them alone. (Nightsisters, for example). It when people are using the Force to create disharmony, to cause HARM to others and themselves that they intervene.

The Sith are literally a culture of Force Users who do horrendous things for their own gain. They will torture and kill just because. Who wiped out the Nightsisters in the Clone Wars? Oh yeah, SITH. (They didn’t even do it themselves. They sent out the asthmatic cyborg.)

The Coven? The Jedi didn’t say “stop using the Force, you’re not allowed to have it.” They came because, at the time I’m writing this, (half an hour before episode 6 is released), they fled intentionally away from Republic space to do something that warranted the Jedi to investigate. Also it was the JEDI asking the kids what they wanted. It was, at the least, most of the Coven telling the children how evil the Jedi are and they are not allowed to join them.

This characterization isn’t just an Acolyte problem or even solely fandom. It’s been an issue even with Old Republic writings (and this is coming from someone who LOVES the Old Republic era).

[moontheoretist]

You don't even know what I'd do to see Cytharat in Legacy of the Sith. Like, we got Malgus on the loose again. It just seems fitting for the guy that had to redeem himself after serving as apprentice to Malgus to come back and help us fight his ex-master. I know he can die, but it's not the first time when killable character was allowed to have a major role in the story. The only thing they have to do is to swap Cytharat for someone else for those who lost him. It just feels like a perfect timing.

[spacedilflvr]

this is a shin hati fan account now.

#imeanlookathershessohot #imstraightiswear

[archeo-starwars]

source: SWTOR: Legacy of the Sith - Showdown on Ruhnuk

[corruptlight]

Oh, My Love - A SWTOR Story

In which the Commander gets stabbed on Nathema instead of Theron Shan.

Its me back on my bullshit instead of sleeping (help) and I've been in SWTOR brainrot for a long while now and I keep thinking and creating stories based off my silly little swtor characters.

This isn't edited by the way

"I love you Theron, please, come home." Lana shuts off the holo and Sylvi begins to leave the room. Not saying a word as Lana watches sadly, knowing it was better not to say anything.

"I'm going for a walk in the woods, clear my mind." Was all she said before leaving, and not even going towards the woods. Sylvi heads for a secret shared apartment that no one knew off except her, Theron, and C2-N2.

It was for her to stop Theron being a workaholic and sleep and for her to get away from the alliance and being its commander. She lazily opens the door, before walking towards the lounge and slumping onto it. Too lost in her mind, the only thing keeping her going had ceased to exist and she finally tumbled down into a dark abyss of depression, shame, and self-loathing.

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"I swear when I get my hands on him-" Trygve starts while Ingrid and Víðarr stand with him in the field where the former Cipher Nines ship resides.

"Trygve..." Víðarr starts but Trygve swirls to face him with a firm finger pointed at him.

"HE WILL FEEL EVERY AGONY, EVERY FORM OF TORTURE POSSIBLE FOR WHAT HE DID. I WILL SEE HIM BREAK FOR WHAT HE DID TO HER!" Trygve yells, making Ingrid flinch to hide behind Víðarr making the male twin sigh and calm himself slightly at her behavior.

"Brother, we will find him. I promise you, and we will make him pay," Víðarr assures, "But, you cannot deny something about this is off."

Ingrid moves from her position slightly behind the Sith, opening her mouth to say something before her comlink goes off.

"Ingrid here," She says while answering it.

"Its Hylo, we've found the pirate that keeps raiding the transports." Hylo Viz explains before disconnecting, making Ingrid close her eyes.

"I'll go, I sense something about this that's... familiar." Ingrid says to the brothers.

"Sense what?" Trygve quizzes, making Ingrid smile slightly.

"I sense someone that I'll love until the stars go cold." The Zabrak then turns on her heel and walks away with haste.

"Andronikos revel." Víðarr whispers with a small smirk.

"That pirate that helped her recover Tulak Hord's artifact on Tatooine?" Trygve asks.

"How do you-- another time. Lets go find Lana and figure our next move to find Theron."

"Vaylin! You have too stop her!"

"It is a tainted world."

"The Force is... wrong here."

"There are things in there even I cannot protect you from."

Sylvi shoots up in a sweat, another nightmare plaguing her sleep, however, this time it felt like a warning from the Force.

"Nathema..." She whispers before springing to her feet, half consciously, half on auto-pilot.

She needed to leave Odessen, without anyone knowing, following or finding her. Suddenly feeling like she was in a jail, she checked her armor before clipping her dualsaber to her belt. She walks to her wardrobe and finds a black cloak, heaving it over herself she pulls her hood up and leaves the apartment.

She blocks off all her bonds and shrouds her force signature, suppressing it from the force users all over the planet. She knew she had to take a ship without a tracker on it, or land then use the auto-pilot to send it adrift in the galaxy.

'That would throw them off my scent.' Sylvi realizes before maneuvering to the hanger. It was midnight and no sane person would be up unless they were on patrol.

The raven haired Jedi peeks around the corner, seeing an officer on patrol. Though she hated it, Sylvi forces them into a sleep before gently having them fall to the ground and running across to the fighters. She looks around before force leaping onto a fighter, once she does she hears voices coming towards the hanger before they notice her sleeping soldier.

"Over there!" Admiral Aygo calls out before getting onto the comms and shouting orders for flight control. Because the group couldn't identify Sylvi, they figured her to be a spy, saboteur, or assassin and that was a means for capture at any cost.

"Sithspit." Sylvi curses under her breathe before getting the ship fired up and getting ready to fly out.

In her quarters, Ingrid stirs feeling a heavy and firm arm around her waist. The Zabrak hears her comm beeping and uses the force to bring it to her.

"This better be important." Ingrid hisses.

"Ingrid! We have a situation in the hanger with an unknown assailant attempting to flee in a fighter. Their intent is unknown and they appear to be a force user!" Aygo explains making her groan, feeling the person behind her start to wake.

"I might not be able to get there in time." Ingrid replies, while attempting to move but the arm around her waist keep her flush to the persons chest.

"Understood, we will attempt to detain them." Aygo tells her before she turns off her commlink.

"Andronikos..." Ingrid starts but the pirate wasn't letting her go.

"Forget them, they've got it handled." He tells her lazily, planting kisses on her shoulders and gently taking the commlink and throwing it somewhere.

"This is important."

"So? You've skipped out on dark council meeting for less." Andronikos argues, not letting her go after getting her back. The pirate moves towards the Zabraks neck slowly, knowing it would help his argument for her to stay.

"Yes... I... I know this, but..." She keeps trailing off, finding it difficult to speak, and Andronikos smirks knowingly.

"But, Sith?"

Sylvi gets the fighter moving and knows Aygo and attempting to comm her, but she left it in the staging area so he wasn't getting an answer. She watches as he sends men to go find her in what most assumed were her private quarters.

Once she finds the opportunity she flies out of the hanger and into the atmosphere while getting the hyperdrive ready and finding the tracker at the same time.

Eventually, finds two wires she remembers her brothers telling her were for the tracker and weapons.

"Blast, which one was it." Sylvi asks herself before deciding to pull them both out.

What could go wrong?

As she pulls the wires an alarm start blaring to tell her weapons were disabled. She groans before glancing to see if she was clear to jump.

"Flying is for droids." She grumbles before entering hyperspace.

Leaving her with only her thoughts and the stars.

[amons-hat-enthusiast]

Some nice screens I took during Legacy of the Sith run with Thanira

[a-master-procrastinator]

Read your post - good stuff! Sooooo about Ashara.... 👀

Yeah, this was not an easy decision at all. I like Ashara, and doing this to her didn't exactly sit right with me, but I wanted to stay true to both of Ashara and Auletta's characters.

Warning for spoilers for Sith Inquisitor storyline.

The biggest problem was that Ashara and Auletta just don't work together, they are too different. My inquisitor didn't even want to take Ashara initially, and only when the events on Taris showed that Ashara is somewhat susceptible to the Dark Side, Auletta decided to train and turn her. However, Ashara wasn't showing signs of becoming a Sith, and her ideas about changing the Empire were not aligning with Auletta's view, so a lot of their conversations only led to more arguing. After quite some time, Ashara finally saw that there is no point in working with Darth Nox anymore and decided to leave.

As much as I love Auletta, I didn't want Ashara to fall to the Dark Side as the result of my inquisitor's manipulations; and as much as I love Ashara, Auletta wouldn't simply let her leave. There are multiple reasons for this, but the main reasons are saving reputation (Ashara didn't turn to the Dark Side completely, and that was a failure in her eyes), and eliminating any risk that this rogue Jedi will spread information about her Force walking ability (the one that uses spirits of dead Sith), since it was not common knowledge and Auletta chose to keep it secret.

So the moment Ashara decided to part ways, she was marked for death by one of the most powerful Sith. Knowing that, she planned to make the best use of what little time she had and do something to bring Republic and Empire closer to peace. Ashara knew a couple of like-minded Jedi, and, ironically, travelling with Auletta gave her some idea of where to find Sith who would rather focus on improving the Empire than on the war against the Republic. Her goal was to start a conversation between two sides - convincing them to make an attempt, providing a safe place for meetings, securing methods of communication, etc., so that by the time Ashara is no longer present, the process will have already started. And she managed to succeed.

When Xalek and Vylneer (another apprentice of Darth Nox) finally tracked her down, Ashara was ready to face them. She put up quite a fight, but knew that death was inevitable, and she faced it without fear or regret.

Ashara's fate stands out from how most of Auletta's victims end up - in the end, she was at peace with herself, doing what she believed in.

[renposter]

(SPOILERS) Star Wars: Legacy (2006-2010), the Sith Ambush of the Galactic Alliance at Caamas

[thegreatyin]

ragdoll and tiefguel share the quintessential trait of yin's oc-insert rpg protagonists, that being that they're both heroic characters that save the day and rely upon the power of friendship and are (mostly) loved by all. but they're also both Assholes.

in case you were further wondering how reggie's bg3 adventure was going btw: i finally tackled the iron throne tonight and got my entire party out alive alongside omeluum and ravenguard. but i ALSO left like 75% of the gondians to die and didn't help them get out whatsoever beyond opening their cages because one it was technically a chaotic neutral dark urge roleplaying opportunity (they'll help, but they never said they care about you) and two if they wanted to be saved beyond that they should've been part of a major quest objective

[mimir-anoshe]

The Acolyte episode 8 Predictions, potential spoilers (If I'm right lmao, prepare for a long ass bingo card):

We'll open the episode to Osha's breathing, maybe even her yeeting off the mask.

We're going back to Brendok boys, that's where the final confrontation will take place. In the fortress, on the planet where it all began.

The space chase from the trailers is in the rings of Brendoks blue moon.

Qimir will help Osha discover the truth of her past, and accompany her.

Osha and Qimir will have some Han Solo/Leia esc shenanigans on Qimirs ship. It's gonna get a lil spicy and sarcastic I can feel it in me bones...

Osha will have some nerdy/funny things to say about Qimirs ship as a Meknek.

Osha will hang on to Qimirs saber the entire episode like she's found a new favourite sex chew toy and refuses to give it back.

Osha/Qimir and Mae/Sol will meet each other in the fortress. Oshamir will get there first, and Osha will see the carnage of her past all come back at once to haunt her.

The vergence is in that hole at the top of the fortress that leads into the volcano. The twins will tap into its power.

Osha will get a moment where she will have to choose, and she'll choose Qimir.

Osha will kill Sol, either from opening herself to the dark side, or because she's trying to kill Mae and Sol gets between them.

We'll get a parallel to Mother Koril's "Fight me" with one of the twins.

There will be a second eclipse, and that is when Osha and Mae will combine their power to save Sol.

Oh yeah, Osha and Mae will heal/save Sol.

Osha will save herself from falling using the force.

Osha will become a shadow, she will accept her power as a witch in some way. Her inner darkness. Just like her mother. Maybe to even teleport her and her sister/her and Qimir away from danger.

Mae will also become a shadow, just like mother Koril.

We get some fucking hilarious facial expressions/reactions from Qimir in response to Sol and the twins witch shenanigans.

One of the twins - probably Mae - will use witch mind fuckery.

Qimir will get injured, and Osha will attempt to heal him; using her desire.

Whatever the ceremony was originally supposed to achieve will be concluded in this episode.

There will be a sith reveal at the end of the episode, to tie to the prequels and potentially set up the BBEG for season 2.

The Witches will come back! Not from the dead lmao, mother Koril and half the coven are totally alive. We'll see them reintroduced in a surprising way. Or maybe Leslye will save it for a season 2. Mae will be tied to this strongly, either way.

Mae and Osha's last interaction will be at the Bunta tree, before they part ways.

Sol will tell the council the truth, but leave out Qimir/Osha in order to protect Osha. Mae will pretend to be Osha and therefore be safe from the Jedi.

Sol will be exiled.

Mae will go off on her own to rebuild the coven/carry on her mothers legacy. Sol may even accompany her, as an act of redemption.

Qimir and Osha get close to kissing, real, super, fucking intimately close... but don't... Or maybe... 👀

[parseolegacy]

Day seven of @jdiknight's SWTOR-tober prompt list! The day seven prompt is The Force: So I wanted to draw Thada and Zilei- which are the characters who's story is most centered around or impacted by the Force itself in my legacy. Also nobody ask me why I decided to use watercolours (the traditional medium I'm the worst at/least experienced with) when I'm already a day late for the challenge. Had to step in with some paint markers anyway to get proper values in at least on Thada's side, but Zilei's not quite the right shade 😭 I really need to learn how to layer and blend watercolours properly HE IS TOO PALE BUT I DON'T HAVE TIME TO FIX IT- I already went into detail about Zilei's relationship to the light side of the Force in Day 2- so I'll mostly talk a little bit about Thada's relationship to the Force. Swtor spoilers up to Echoes of Oblivion under the cut.

As a Chiss (who generally lose their force-sensitivity,) one of her two main goals throughout her story (or at least what she sees as a crucial building block to her main goal), is to do whatever she can to retain her fleeting connection to the Force which include, but are not limited to, finding a place in a Dathomirian coven under a slightly dubious master before reaching the Sith. It gets more complicated after Ziost where she technically becomes part of the Force as a victim of Vitiate; however all of her essence is not consumed and she continues to exist as a Force ghost (possibly in the world between worlds,) learning more about the Force, the past, present and future, as well as changing the course of and intervening in hopeless situations- before being brought back in Echoes of Oblivion. (Stole your body reformation ritual, sucker! Eat dirt Tenebrae-) In being reformed she mostly takes energy/life force from a single, willing person, my consular Akk'rai, and the two become one in the Force through the process- forming a Force Dyad. Probably could've drawn them for this too but the Force itself isn't as present of a story element in Akk'rai's case, so I felt Zilei and Thada were more relevant to the prompt.

Previous days: Day 1 + Introduction post Day 2 Day 3 Day 4 Day 5 Day 6

[hannagoldworthy]

WARNING: POSSIBLE SPOILERS FOR STAR WARS LEGENDS

One take I regularly see from the “Jedi Critical” corner of this fandom always manages to baffle me: “In Legends, Luke Skywalker corrected the mistakes of the dogmatic Jedi Order!”

Since my days as a dumbass first-time tumblr user, in which I was rather sternly corrected by older users if I got too aggressive in my arguments, I’ve tried to steer away from pointing out how STUPID that take is. But? Nothing’s saying I can’t make a post of my own about it!

So.

With the bare minimum of due respect.

What fucking book did you read where Luke Skywalker corrected his own fucking mistakes, let alone those of any Jedi who came before him?

Because from what I’VE read? Luke had a nasty habit of doing the same things everyone criticizes the Prequel Jedi for doing, only ramping the ante up in a way only a Skywalker trained by TWO of the Disaster Lineage can.

Mace Windu threatened a “helpless” old Chancellor in his own office and was trying to assassinate him? Gag me. Luke Skywalker electrocuted Shimrra Jamaane to death with Force Lightn-pardon me, “eLeCtRiC jUsTiCe.”

The Jedi Order of the Prequels used Padawans as “child soldiers”? Please. Luke Skywalker possessed the body of his nephew to duel Exar Kun…when Jacen Solo was TWO, a FUCKING TODDLER. That’s not even getting into the number of very young teenagers who died horrible deaths as SOLDIERS in the war against the Yuuzhan Vong - for pity’s sake, Anakin Solo was knighted at sixteen and KILLED AT SEVENTEEN, where his grandfather’s knighting at nineteen was considered a rush job!

The Galactic Army of the Republic was a slave army? So was the army of YVH-1 battle droids built to battle the Yuuzhan Vong invasion! “Oh, but those were just droids” yeah and? The anti-Jedi folk cried when Anakin Skywalker was rightfully punished for not wiping R2’s memory of sensitive battle information, and they’ve outright said they have more sympathy for the battle droids than for the living, breathing people defending themselves against the battle droids. Not to mention, Legends had a Droid’s Rights movement in full swing at this point in time, so? YVH’s were people programmed from “birth” to die in battle. Next question.

Obi-Wan was too mean to Darth Maul and Darth Vader when he cut off their limbs? Alema Rar would like a word! Luke Skywalker permanently crippled her lightsaber arm, his sister cut off one of her feet AND one of her lekku (brain tails, that HAVE HER BRAIN IN THEM), AND put her in the way of a spider-sloth that BIT HER IN FUCKING HALF. And this was after Luke helped raise her as a youngling and HAD A VISION OF HER TURNING TO THE DARK SIDE, and did FUCK-ALL to prevent her from turning!

On the topic of doing fuck-all to prevent something…oh, was Obi-Wan Kenobi unable to prevent his Padawan from being groomed by a Sith Lord? Well, Luke Skywalker GAVE his son Ben as an unofficial apprentice to Jacen Solo, who turned out to be Darth Caedus and mentally, emotionally, and physically tortured Ben for six years! And, while Obi-Wan did not like Palpatine and continuously advised Anakin not to trust him without even knowing Palpatine was Sidious, Luke fully suspected Jacen was headed down a dark path and still encouraged Ben to be his apprentice because he was afraid of the Skywalker legacy dying with him.

Obi-Wan Kenobi flirted inappropriately with enemy generals? Luke Skywalker banged them. No, seriously, Legends Luke’s sexual body count is in double digits, the man was an unrepentant fuckboi. Mara Jade, Calista Masana/Mingla, Gaerial Captison, Shira Brie, some blonde named Mary who was in one comic to die at the end, fucking ABELOTH? Yeah, Luke only married one of those women, BUT HE FUCKED ALL OF THEM. And now, we have the DinLuke ship (which only exists in fanon, so I will count it as Legends) to mirror the Codywan ship (which actually has some basis in canon), just to cement that Luke Skywalker is a persistent playboy for BOTH teams. He loves them and leaves them like a pro.

Oh, there’s a persistent fan-theory that Korkie Kryze was Satine and Obi-wan’s secret love child? There were rumors that Brisha Syo was Shira Brie’s daughter with Luke…rumors that were credible enough that Luke had to do his own investigation into the matter. Shira Brie, aka Lady Lumiya, whom Luke blew to smithereens when she tried to kill him, and fought her with no mercy when Darth Vader pieced her back together and sent her to fight him again. So, while Obi-Wan has a rumored lovechild from a respectful relationship with a woman who opted not to tell him, Luke legitimately blew up his alleged baby mamma in the void of space with the bare minimum of regret.

Yoda and Obi-Wan sent Luke to kill his own father because they couldn’t manage to do so? Luke sent his niece, Jaina Solo, to kill her TWIN BROTHER because he could not bring himself to kill Jacen himself. And, while Luke was understandably torn up about killing Anakin, Jaina had a Force-bond comparable with a canon dyad withh Jacen - it hurt her a lot more when she killed Jacen than it ever would have hurt Luke to kill Vader. She nearly DIED of heartbreak, that’s how bad it was.

Obi-Wan hurt Anakin’s trust by faking his death and going undercover? He beat the crap out of Anakin to maintain his cover? Luke hurt Leia’s trust by faking turning to the Dark Side, becoming a reborn Sidious’s new apprentice, ACTUALLY FALLING TO THE DARK SIDE, and mentally fighting Leia WHILE SHE WAS PREGNANT, to the point she WENT INTO LABOR EARLY.

Obi-Wan beat Anakin in a duel and left him to burn to death? Luke Skywalker BEAT THE LIVING HELL out of Vader until Vader was wordlessly pleading for MERCY, which he DID NOT DO ON MUSTAFAR.

Now.

Is there any nuance in Luke’s situations, throughout all of these examples? Yes, there is...but there’s also nuance in the Jedi’s situation in the Prequels, which no one seems to acknowledge in their case. So, whatever grace I extend to Legends!Luke being an imperfect and fascinating character, also extends to the Jedi being imperfect and fascinating characters in their own right.

I love Legends!Luke BECAUSE he reminds me of the Prequels Jedi, not because he corrected any of their “mistakes” (he did not. He very clearly did not). So don’t come at me saying Legends!Luke was better than the Prequel Jedi. I have read the books! I have kept the receipts! AND I WILL USE THEM.

[moontheoretist]

You know what is super annoying? That I'm stuck because of a bug.

There is a bug in Desperate Defiance that gives you wrong dialogue in the cutscene when you are leaving Hutta, if you dared to help both Adi Vonapa and Rakit. In my case I helped Adi by choosing Rodia as their escape's destination, but then helped Rakit with the turrets (I figured that helping with the elevator would be meaningless if all of the people I'm trying to save will be gunned down by those turrets). That creates a glitch where Sa'har thinks that you sent Resistance to Hutta, but to the Resistance camp, rather than recognize your choice of Rodia.

Currently there is no fix. And devs are silent about this issue.

I hoped that the issue will be fixed with patch 7.5a, but it wasn't and I can see that other people who experienced that bug felt let down.

As of today 22th of June there is still no aknowledgment as far as I noticed. Bug still exists in the game and we have no official info from devs that the issue is worked on and when we can expect the fix.

I tried to tag Swtorista on Twitter but I guess my tweet was not seen.

So it's already over 3 weeks after the update and still nothing.

I can't finish the story because nobody wants to fix it.

[rebelsofshield]

Some scattered Acolyte theories (spoilers for episode five)

The use of Kylo Ren's motif to accompany Qimir has to be intentional. It's one of the few themes from any of the films to make an appearance in the show so far and pairing it so clearly with Qimir at the episode's close must be doing more than simply recycling a familiar musical cue. From what we've seen, Qimir doesn't seem to have much in common with Kylo/Ben as a character. While Kylo Ren was a villain defined by his conflict and the weight of family legacy, Qimir is a self-declared nobody who comfortably inhabits his Dark Side beliefs.

So what if it's instead a callback to the Knights of Ren as a group? The exact origins of the Knights has yet to be established but we know from Marvel's Star Wars comics that they are an independent group of Dark Siders that have existed for quite sometime, possibly even further back than the events depicted in the Prequel Trilogy. While they would eventually morph into their own organization with separate ideologies and goals than the Sith, the musical callback alongside the visual similarities between Qimir's aesthetic design and Ren and his followers makes me believe that The Acolyte could be showcasing us the creation of the Knights as a purposeful offshoot of the Sith. It would be a fascinating storytelling detail if the Knights of Ren themselves began as an intentional red herring planted by the Sith to prevent discovery by the Jedi. One of the biggest questions hanging over The Acolyte is how exactly the Jedi missed this opportunity to discover the Sith over a hundred years before Palpatine executes their millennia long revenge scheme. While we already know that bureaucracy, ignorance, and fear of political scandal are factors at play here, the creation of the Knights as a scapegoat and smokescreen by the Sith feels like another element that's in play.

Hell, it even makes Ki-Adi Mundi's skepticism of Qui-Gon's claims in The Phantom Menace make more sense. What reason would he have to believe that the attacker Qui-Gon encountered on Tatooine was a Sith when a similar threat a century earlier ended up just being a member of a gang troublesome Dark Side offshoots. A problem, sure, but not the return of the Jedi's dreaded nemesis.

I spent much of the first few episodes of this show convinced that Sol was a fundamentally kindhearted man who was a witness to a terrible mistake the Jedi made on Brendok. Sol's tenderness towards Osha both in the past and present timelines of The Acolyte feels genuine and I'm not inclined to think that he's a devious enough liar to completely fake care and compassion for over a decade. I am, however, coming to wonder if Sol is perhaps hiding much more than we may think and might be one of the guiltiest parties at work here.

Much of this comes down to Qimir's inference that Sol did something to Osha. This feels like a much more pointed and personal accusation than Sol simply being present for the disaster on Brendok. Sol did something to Osha specifically.

It's obvious from how "Destiny" is directed that we are not getting the entirety of the story. Osha's perspective is shown and the events are confusing and chaotic. The Acolyte goes out of its way to make sure we barely see Mae or Mother Aniseya's experiences of that fateful night and I had assumed that we were dealing with a Rashomon set up that would reveal the truth after seeing different vantage points. But now, I'm beginning to doubt that what we even got from Osha is truthful. Even before she blacks out and wakes up aboard the Jedi's ship, there's a lot about what's depicted in "Destiny" that just doesn't make sense. A small fire spreads faster and quicker than it ought too. The witches all appear dead with no visible wounds. Sol's appearance is too sudden. Too much doesn't add up.

Basically, I'm starting to wonder if Sol used the Force to erase or twist certain memories in Osha's mind to cover up the violence on Brendok. Maybe the conflict between the Jedi and Aniseya's coven started out as a peaceful confrontation that escalated into violence through mistake and misunderstanding, but perhaps Sol is so concerned about the truth getting out that he would go as far to alter the mind of a child to keep his secrets. I've always felt that part of Sol's devotion to Osha comes from a sense of shame, but maybe that guilt runs much, much deeper than we think.

The other big leftover mystery from "Destiny" concerns the means and intents behind Osha and Mae's creation. Part of me does still genuinely think that the witches, being a matriarchal single gender culture, birthed both girls as a to ensure that their culture and tradition is passed onto another generation. I don't see Aniseya's ambitions stretching further than her coven on Brendok, particularly in how she views the Force as a Thread that cannot be pulled on without creating consequences. However, while the intentions may be fairly benign, I do not believe that Osha and Mae's creation was a bloodless act. The witches are clearly nervous about the Jedi discovering the true nature of their creation and it seems to stretch beyond their general distrust of the Order. Life doesn't come from nowhere and perhaps costs other lives in the process.

Now, here is where I put on my tinfoil. Like we're entering 2015-2017 Snoke theories territory here. I think Darth Plagueis assisted in the creation of Osha and Mae. One of the few things we know about the canon version of Plagueis is that he was obsessed with finding ways to use the Force to create life. It seems very possible that he might have collaborated with another Force sect for the purposes of experimenting and exploring these possibilities. The witches get the children they want. Plagueis gets knowledge that he deeply desires.

It answers the question of how Qimir knows so much about Mae and Osha in the first place. Sure, Sith are resourceful, but in order to manipulate Mae into becoming his Acolyte he would have to not only know that she existed but also possess extensive knowledge about her past. This feels like information that might come easily to Plagueis's current apprentice. And Sith apprentices sure do love training acolytes to help get their way to the top of the whole Rule of Two situation.

So what does this mean for Osha and Mae's future? There are many different directions to take their story from here and my thoughts about where they are headed as characters ultimately comes down to how definitive of an ending this (and maybe only) season of the Acolyte has. But to me, the groundwork seems laid for a particularly dark ending that sees Osha and Mae trading places. This has already happened in some sense given that Mae went undercover as her twin sister at the end of "Night," but I think The Acolyte is setting up an inversion of Light and Dark between these two.

Given her newfound proximity to Qimir, it feels all too likely that Osha slowly begins to learn the truth about what happened on Brendok and I don't imagine she's going to take it well, especially if my earlier theory about Sol proves correct. Depending on the degree of secrecy and lies, I could see Osha, even momentarily, lashing out violently at Sol upon learning the truth. And maybe she does the one thing Mae never could. Kill a Jedi without a weapon. We end this season of The Acolyte with Osha embracing the Dark and taking her sister's place.

So, where does this leave Mae then? We've also already seen evidence that of the two sisters, Mae is the woman who is most hopeful for a reunion and reconciliation between the two. Hell, she abandons her Dark Side revenge quest almost as soon as she learns that Osha's still alive. Mae may not be without sin, but with each episode I become more and more convinced that she's not a villain. She's a girl who lost everything is eager to cling to even the slightest shred of hope she can. And maybe, come season finale, that hope might be that she can save her sister from the Dark. That would be a hell of a set up for season two. If we get a season two that is. (Please make it so, Leslye.)

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SPOILER ALERT

I love how they showed Ahsoka getting free of her guilt of "being a legacy of death and destruction" and going beyond what she thought she was, a soldier. She is more than that. She was stuck in the past , blaming herself , acting out of fear and agression but unknowingly. She is afraid of losing everyone, afraid of another war, afraid of her close people being bad. I mean she was a kid who had only known war who can blame her.

But in the world between worlds Anakin gives her the choice to live and move ahead or die under the weight of her past.

And she 100% believes she just causes pain and destruction, yet the fight with Anakin, when she's about to strike him down, she doesn't, her eyes turn into sith eyes but she doesn't give in. She stops. Showing that she's not just destruction. She's more than that. What she's been through, and what she's done, don't define her and that she can choose to be more .

And now the whole reason of her going to this other galaxy changes. She's no longer going out of agression or fear, she's no longer going for a hunt for thrawn. She's going for a rescue. She's going out of good intentions, trusting herself, trusting the force with compassion being at the center stage.

Which reminds me of what Yoda said to luke in ep 5 "A Jedi uses the force for knowledge and defense, never for attack"

I thought it was really cool.

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We're Together Again

SWTOR story (my legacy) because I cannot sleep LMAO also I just found this cool looking Lightsaber gif so I wanted to show ya.

The Jedi twins feel the shuttle land and silently walk out, feeling the dark side of the force emanate from Yavin 4. Something pulled at the younger sister, however, the same pull she felt in the past on other planets.

It reminded her so much of her eldest brother, though an adopted Pure Blood Sith, she didn't see him as anything but her brother. However, the topic ran deep because he was snatched away when she was 8 and the Sith that stole him murdered their father.

"Are you alright, Sylvi?" Her twin asks, known as the Hero of Tyhon and Slayer of The Emperor, his brow was furrowed while looking at her.

"I... I'll be fine, Trygve." Sylvi assures half-heartedly, which doesn't ease her brothers concern. Behind them stood Lord Scourge and Zenith, one was on high alert while the other stood as an unmoving pillar.

They wordlessly walk the rest of the way to the planning area for the coalition force. Sylvi spies the meeting and planning table where Grandmaster Satele Shan stood with her son Theron Shan (though it was a complicated situation) and Darth Marr with Lana Benkio. A handful of Republic and Imperial soldiers stand on their perspective ends with an unknown Sith Lord speaking to them with a Twi'lek by his side in the middle.

"...It's safer for us all if the Emperor stays in this state. It is my duty to deal with the Emperor, Revan will get the galaxy killed because he does not see he isn't strong enough."

Trygve knows who it is, working with him and Darth Imperious, who was meditating a meter away from the group. The male twin kept the identity of the sith from his sister, at his request, making him slow down as Sylvi raises an eyebrow at the sith.

Upon sensing a new presence behind him, the sith turns to look at the woman, only to silently gasp at who it was.

"Sylvi..." The sith breathes out, in utter shock and feels tears brim to the corner of his eyes.

Though all grown up and mature both knew who it was upon being so close and looking at each other.

"Víðarr..." Sylvi whispers, a single tear running down her cheek.

After a second, they both pull each other into a hug and hold each other so tight, as if they might vanish, never to return to each other. The Twi'lek steps away towards Trygve as the Hero of Tython pulls the now standing Imperious into a side hug.

"Hey, kiddo." Trygve whispers as the two watch the reunited siblings.

The two pull apart but keep a hand on the others shoulder, with their other hand on the hand.

"Later, little one." Víðarr murmurs to Sylvi, and the sister, in what felt like a life time, smiles genuinely with a hint of snark.

"I could kick your ass, my lord." She tells him while making fun of the lord title Víðarr now possessed.

"Uh huh, sure, oh wise, Barsen'thor." Víðarr jokes with a mocking bow.

"While I am one for you two reuniting, might I suggest we pick this up after we deal with their mad ancestor." Imperious, or Ingrid, suggests while gesturing to the Shan's.

"Yeah, don't forget torturing me to try join him." Theron remarks, making Sylvi huff in amusement.

"Yes, now we're altogether again, what's the plan?" Sylvi asks, knowing that now they were together Revan had no chance.