#learning ipa

[gaasublarb]

Hobie's Accent Challenge/Practice

I tried to find a sentence with every english phoneme and this came up.

That quick beige fox jumped in the air over each thin dog. Look out, I shout, for he's foiled you again, creating chaos.

So here goes /)////(\ Wish I knew more IPA

Me:

ðat quick bæj fahx jəmpt in ðə ær ohver ɪch thin dahg. Look owt, aɪ showt, for hɪs fohɪld you əgin, crɪæding kæahss

Hobie:

Tha' quick bæj fox jəmpt en ðə eh ohvə ɪch thin dog. Look ow', ah show', foh 'ɪs foɪld yə əgen, crɪæ'en kayohss

[stackofsnakes]

Whenever there's a "do you pronounce it x or y" post they never use the IPA and it irks me. Now, i know why they don't use the IPA but it still irks me. I mean, why did i even learn it? Why did people put in the time and money to create it when it's not used for its most applicable mainstream use? Why do you insist on leveragin the relationship between english its outdated, unrevised written representation to create a sort of ad hoc phonetic spelling system when there's a perfectly good one right there? You're clanking rocks against each other in the hope one might gain a sharp edge like some sort of neolithic proto-toolsmith while there's a tool box waiting for you in your garage.

[jimpagne]

do you have any tips on sounding more like a native? i feel like i sound dumb with my accent :/

I have an answer. It's a very stupid answer, but it worked for me.

My accent is one of the things I get complimented on the most by Korean people that I talk to, many of them assuming I've spent some time in their country or at least studied there once -- neither of which I have done, but I always feel flattered nonetheless by the compliment.

My secret to perfecting an accent? Well, I did something kind of stupid. Basically, I decided to treat Korean phones (aka sounds) like I was a baby learning them for the first time. Babies repeat sounds that they hear, and they do so through babbling or word repetition. So, I would quite literally just "babble" to myself using Korean sounds. It sounds really strange, but it worked very well. Also, if you do long "sentences", you can practice the intonation flow of the languages as well. The following string of Hangul is complete nonsense. Some of these are real words, some of them are not. This is kind of an example of how I would randomly mutter things to myself to try to practice the sounds and intonation 👍

항두하는지, 모려가서 바빴는데, 그게 뭐, 다시 키나고, 파니를 수작겠습니다...

Now I would NEVER try to pass this off as actual Korean, I know some people say random things to try to convince people that they speak a language, but this is not what I'm doing here! I would just do this to myself at home or during long commutes. This way you're not really exhausting your brain trying to work on phones and sentence structures at the same time. It's just a silly way to use Korean sounds without stressing your mind out too much.

Also, since you're by yourself, it's a judgement free zone. Some people are nervous about speaking in front of people, so you can practice this in the comfort of your own bedroom.

But yes, that was one of my main ways of practicing.

However, my other main way was super normal... it's actually probably how most people practice their accent. Sometimes I would turn on a K-drama or a Korean YouTube video and just listen to them talk and then repeat what they said. Just do that for like an hour, and you'll be surprised by just how much your accent can improve in that short amount of time.

Actually, before I would do recording assignments, I would watch one episode of a K-drama before doing it, because my recording before watching the K-drama and after watching the K-drama was noticeably different.

You just need hear Korean people speaking!

[salvadorbonaparte]

I'm considering giving my students a five minute crash course into phonetics and phonology and the IPA because I feel like if you even have just a basic understanding of manner and place of articulation, especially for vowels, it makes language learning a bit easier.

[skymantle]

noticed a while ago that yes man has a small lisp that's noticeable in a handful of his lines, so i made a little compilation of the ones where its Most apparent! :-)

[celiaelise]

I wanna take a phonetics class so bad!! 😭😭😭

A couple times in the past few months I've found myself reading about various English dialects, which has been really interesting, but struggling to read written descriptions of sounds and my lack of understanding of the IPA has definitely slowed me down!!

(Though part of me IS a little scared that once I can identify the sounds I make when I speak, I'll become self-conscious and unable to speak naturally 😅 kind of like that "becoming aware of your tongue" thing. Like, "is this how I actually talk, or is this how I think I'm supposed to talk?" But I guess that's pretty silly; I have been talking for a long time, and I'm pretty good at it!)

(I've also always feared that if I moved somewhere with a drastically different accent or dialect to my own, that I'd end up, like, artificially mirroring that, and lose my natural way of speaking.)

(yes I've already been diagnosed w anxiety lol)

[nintendont2502]

i love seeing any poll on pronunciation that uses the pronunciation of other words as reference. tumblr users learn what accents are challenge /lh

[msburgundy]

my beef with ipa comes down to the fact that i simply do not like, conceptually, that there is a contrived writing system intended to capture every single sound in human language. i would much rather just mix scripts (like throwing a fully english word into a korean sentence and vice versa) i UNDERSTAND why we don't (thus i can forgive romanization etc [to a degree]) and i also understand why in academic contexts such a writing system is quite valuable.

in actual life, however, there is simply no need to represent all those sounds, and you're simply better off learning the native scripts of languages whose influence you encounter frequently

[cosmogyros]

Can we please make it illegal to put the phrase "'a' as in 'father'" in any language-learning textbook ever again? That is close to being the worst POSSIBLE word to phonetically represent the sound intended.

[noctude]

i don’t know. i don’t know what to tell you

[sundial-bee-scribbles]

"my education is my highest priority" everything returns to vocaloid

[triviallytrue]

"my linguist gf" had me thinking "oh i didn't know triv and max are dating" as if the only linguist in the world is max. i think i need to log off

@max1461

[spacewives-in-spacetime]

nothing i love more than studying things i enjoy without pressure or anxiety

[petpetpinixy]

pronouns dot page is the most unintuitive (exaggerating) website i've ever used jesus christ

beer?

[thedaily-beer]

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[xx3m0j1nxx]

as someone who had to learn phonetics and ipa during acting class i LOVE whenever phil talks about his education