#lana tortures lionel

[raelis1]

via @inquirenorth

Here's the thing I keep trying to articulate and possibly failing: I don't actually mind characters who are terrible people. I have enjoyed many. What I mind is characters who are terrible people while the narrative keeps trying to say that they are wonderful, often contradicting what the narrative shows us, with no self awareness

[lexkent]

Why Lionel Luthor is the True Villain of Smallville:

Threatened to expose Clark's fake adoption records unless Jonathan Kent persuaded Pete Ross’s family to sell their factory to him.

Kidnapped Clark and put him in a vat of kryptonite solution to be studied in an attempt to discover his secrets.

Kept Clark trapped in a cage made of kryptonite in a separate incident.

Impregnated his dying wife's nurse while he was in a position of power over her as her boss, denied he was responsible, and had her locked away in a psychiatric ward for 7 years after taking her baby away from her. Lionel insured the child, Lucas, remained in poverty in the foster care system and prevented him from ever being adopted.

Forced the second woman he impregnated while married to Lillian, while in a position of power over her as her boss, to give their child to an orphanage where she was tortured. He soon found another home for Tess where she grew up in poverty and extreme physical abuse.

Forced his wife to have another baby despite her objections and was then dismissive of her postpartum depression. "I told you I didn't want any more children. I see how you treat Alexander, chipping away at his spirit."

Found a child, Davis Bloome, in a cornfield and believing him to be The Traveler, ran experiments on the boy until he realized he wasn't who he wanted and proceeded to dump him off alone on a dark Metropolis street.

Created a clone from a dead little girl, Emily Dinsmore, and locked her away in a lab, refusing to let her father ever see her again. "You can't take her away from me. She's my daughter." "She's the property of Luthorcorp."

Was such a terrible father to Lex that Lillian Luthor killed her infant son to spare him from the cruel and twisted parenting Lex endured from Lionel. Was such a horrible husband to Lillan that Lex took the blame for his baby brother's death knowing Lionel would have murdered her in retaliation.

Lied and told Lex that Lucas died in infancy, like Julian, knowing how much it would hurt Lex to hear.

Paid someone to kill Lucas once he became a potential threat to his power. Clark stopped the bullets, and Lionel had the shooter killed in police custody before he could talk.

Forced Lex's mother figure, Pamela Jenkins, out of Lex's life following the death of Lex's mother because he didn't want her to make Lex soft. Convinced Lex that Pamela never loved him and was only ever interested in their money. 

Blew up Chloe and Gabe Sullivan's safehouse in an attempt to kill them and prevent her from testifying against him at his murder trial. Hired a mutant hitman to kidnap and kill Chloe after she escaped the explosion.

Had Oliver Queen's parents killed in a plane crash leaving him orphaned at the age of 5.

Ordered the murder of Andrea Rojas’s mother who was an activist who worked for an organization that fought back against gangs, dealers, and large business corporations. In addition to losing her mother, Andrea was stabbed in the heart during the attack.

Resurrected a teenager, Adam Knight, to get close to Lana Lang and spy on Clark Kent. When Adam failed to retrieve useful information, Lionel refused to give him any more of the serum he required to stay live. As a result, Adam suffered immensely before dying of organ failure.

Resurrected Vince Davis who lived for a short, painful period of time before his body deteriorated without access to Lionel's serum.

Poisoned Lex with a lethal dosage that would've killed 99.9% of people.

Told Lex he loved him in prison only to persuade him into accepting his hand so he could use a Kryptonian stone to body swap them, leaving Lex to rot and die in prison in his place while Lionel escaped with Lex's body. Instead, Clark intervened and Lionel escaped inside of Clark's body, leaving Clark trapped to die in prison. Shortly after the bodyswap occured, Lionel looked down the front inside of his(Clark's) waistband while smiling to himself. While in Clark Kent's body, Lionel initiated a hug with Martha Kent where he was turned on to the point of shooting heat vision from his eyes. Lionel-in-Clark's body flirted with Chloe, a teenager, and was centimeters away from kissing her. And when Lionel-in-Clark's body encountered Lana, a teenager, he said to her, "A man would travel around the world to pluck your succulent fruit," and forced a kiss onto her, smiling to himself after she slapped him and ran away. Lionel proceeded to attack Lex, choking him, slamming his head against a desk, and demanding 57 million dollars using Clark's super strength. He then went to the Kent Farm and threw Jonathan across the room into the kitchen cabinets. Lionel told Clark he would murder Lex if he didn't cooperate with his demands.

Pretended to be blind. "Playing the handicapped card is low, even for you." "But I was able to see more clearly than ever. It's amazing what people try and get away with right in front of your eyes when they think you can't see."

Fired 2,500 Smallville citizens to force his son back under his control. When Lex attempted to organize an employee buyout of the factory, Lionel bought the Smallville Savings and Loan and threatened to foreclose on every employee's mortgage. When Lex continued to organize and fight to save everyone's jobs, Lionel threatened, "I'll bury you and everyone in Smallville who takes your side."

Blackmailed Smallville sheriff Ethan Millar into digging up dirt on every Lexcorp shareholder(Smallville factory workers), so Lionel could blackmail each one into selling their shares to him in order to take over Lex's fledgling company. In addition, Lionel threatened to expose the sheriff if he didn't do him various favors.

Once again tried blackmailing Jonathan Kent leading to a physical altercation between the two. Lionel fled the scene as Jonathan suffered a fatal heart attack.

Installed hidden cameras and microphones throughout Lex's office, so he could sabotage him and steal his business deals.

Took over Lex's company, which Lex had invested everything he had into, leaving him with nothing and immediately kicking him out of his home.

Insisted an ill-advised, life-threatening surgery be performed on Lex after he had been shot and wasn't stable enough for further surgery, making it clear he'd prefer a dead son over a physically disabled one.

Set Lex up for the murders of Dr. Teng and her entire team at Metron Labs after Lex refused to work for him.

Had sex with Lex's lover, Victoria Hardwick, while they were still sleeping together. 

Hired Dr. Helen Bryce to seduce and spy on Lex for him. Helen later attempted to murder Lex on their honeymoon.

Gave Martha Kent a watch engraved, "To Martha, with deep affection. L.L." while she was his employee and happily married to Jonathan Kent.

Refused to come clean about his past sexual involvement with Rachel Dunleavy and the existence of their son, Lucas, despite Lex being held hostage and his survival depending on Lionel telling the truth.

Refused to come clean about Level 3 when it would have saved the lives of a group of teenagers and his own son. 

Ignored and denied any care to his employee, Earl Jenkins, who was poisoned by kryptonite on the job which led to uncontrollable, dangerous seizures.

Created a deadly fear toxin for the military that leaked into Smallville.

Drugged, gaslit, attacked, and framed his son, orchestrating a scenario where everyone would believe Lex to be crazy after Lex discovered Lionel had his parents murdered for insurance money. Lionel had Lex committed to Belle Reve Sanitarium where he had Lex further drugged and put through electroshock therapy, forcing 600 volts of electricity through Lex's brain. When the doctor insisted they pause the procedure for Lex's safety, Lionel ignored the warning and demanded they continue. This brain frying could have easily destroyed Lex's mind, as it did for others who endured it, and ultimately wiped away months of Lex's memories, allowing Lionel to be off the hook for his parent's murders. Everyone involved in Lionel's plot, all loose ends, met untimely deaths.

Threatened, manipulated, controlled, hyper criticized, denied affection, and lied to Lex constantly. Lionel mentally, emotionally, and physically abused his child throughout his entire life, raising him to become a monster and then denying any accountability for what Lex became in the end.

This list is far from complete, so feel free to add more!

[mrhowells]

Smallville 5x04

LOISSS MY WIFE IS BACK!!!!

Shut up Clark no one was hoping she'd stay in Europe longer, you just can't deal with her greatness

"Actually, I just ran into Mrs. Kent at the Talon and right out of nowhere, she asked if I'd like to move back into the farm😇". "Yeah right." "...😇" "...Really?"

AHJKHSJS PLS THE FACE JOURNEY

Lois: 1 - Clark: 0

See that's why we need Lois, it immediately turns into a comedy and Clark gets more personality.

LOIS BIKINIJFKSFJAKJK

BRO. HOLD ON. Was the AC actor on b99 as young Scully?? PLS that would be so funny.

the prettiest girl I've ever seeeen🎶 from the cover of a magazineeee🎶

like????????

she's still insulting the guy who saved her I LOVE HER SO MUCH THAT'S THE LOVE OF MY LIFE OKAY

and the Lana/Lois scraps I liveeee (but also, why didn't we get more, where is the humanity?)

"He can swim faster than I can." HEHEHEHEEHEE😈

Professor Milton Fine? I don't think so

He really just compared Lex to Hitler, BRO💀💀

Same Clark, same

"I got a buck." "Yeah? You should use it to get some fashion sense."

lmaoooo

LOIS STAHP I'M NOT STRONG ENOUGH FOR THIS

It's actually beautiful, you can see her come up with her next burn in real time

"You know, this, uh, whole orange and green thing you got going? Looks like Flipper threw up."

Gooodd I'm in love with her

SHE CALLED HIM FISH STICK I'M-

"You were turning blue." "It's a good color on me."

LOIS STOPPPPPP I NEED TO BREATHE😭😭

THE WAY HE'S LOOKING AT HER? DUDE SAMEEEE

no because they actually have great chemistry

wdym German philosophy is easy DO YOU KNOW THE TORTURE I WENT THROUGH IN HIGH SCHOOL??? DO YOU??

stop why am I shipping Lois and AC they're so cute together😭

HELP

Lois if he falls into the water, shouldn't you jump in after him??💀

I really feel like they made the change in Lex too abrupt which is kind of a bummer because they had a great setup for it after Lionel tried to kill him at the end of season 3.

"You really don't listen, do you?" "No, I try not to, I find it distracting."

AGAIN, I LOVE LOIS AND THEY'RE CUTEEEEE

some of his pickup lines are really cringy though💀

not me getting invested when I know this isn't going anywhere😭

"LOIS??!?!?"

perfect timing Clark

Clark: 🧍😠

"Lois is all over this guy. And all we know him is that he can swim faster than I can."

jsdkdjHkas HE NEEDS TO GET A GRIP BECAUSE WHY DOES HE SOUND ANGRY AND NOT CONCERNED😭💀

I can't

Chloe: listing perfectly normal things about AC like him being on a swim team

Clark: Does he have a criminal record?😠

"I don't know what it is about this guy but I get a bad feeling."

Mmmhhhmmmm okay yeah...

CLARK DON'T EMBARRASS YOURSELF PLS

Even Lana is so done with his shit I'm crying

"Do you really believe that or is that just a pickup line for the girls?" "Clark!!!!"

RIGHT IN FRONT OF LANA LIKE-

you can't make this up😭

PLSSSSSS

Okay Lois he would totally attack AC because he's jealous (and he kinda did💀) but he wouldn't straight up invent lies about him, come on.

OOOOh is this actually the first time we hear the nickname boy scout? (I don't have the best memory so I'm not sure😅)

not AC calling Lex "bro"💀💀

"One day of college and he's already an activist."

PLSSSSS

Again, I think they could've set up this plot a bit better wrt Lex's reasons for selling that weapon despite the damage that it causes.

I'm sorry but this is kind of funny

OK NOW I'M FULL ON LAUGHING

WHAT IS THISSSS😭😭

"Are you okay?" "WET AND READY BRO."

SHDAJKFHDHGWAUIFGQM W H A T ???

WET

AND

READY

????????

I JUST FELL OUT OF MY BED WHO IS THE LEGEND RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS PIECE OF DIALOGUE I MUST KNOW😭

"Well, you didn't tell him about my pitchfork, did you?" "I defended you."

*brief pause from the comedy of it all to feel PAIN*

the way AC says "bro" takes me outttt

"Maybe we should start up a junior lifeguard association or something."

STOOP THAT'S WHAT BART SAID TOO (not the lifeguard part but you know what I mean)

This just in, JLA stands for Junior Lifeguard Association💀

STAY SUPER BRAH (I'll stop making fun of AC now I prommy)

noooooo Lois😭😭😭

welp, I shipped it while it lasted

(I'm still tagging this post as clois though because we all know who the OTP is😌😌)

"I was just trying to look out for you." If you say so👀

not to be repetitive but...

CAN WE TALK ABOUT HOW GOOD SHE LOOKS IN THIS LIGHTING????

"I've known a lot of guys who want to own the world. I haven't met very many who actually want to save it. How am I ever gonna meet someone like that again?"

SCREAMING CRYING THROWING UP FALLING TO MY KNEES DO YOU GUYS EVEN UNDERSTAND????

That, exactly that is the reason she loves Clark (or will eventually, whatever) I'M GOING INSANEEEE THEY WROTE HER SO WELL😭

"Lois, I promise, some day... you'll meet someone even more special."

this episode was everything I needed and more

[lifeforms]

s7 clana is so good though because every single episode is just like. a master class in Reasons These People Are So Fundamentally Incompatible (even though they love each other so much)

for instance, lana just. will hold and torture lionel luthor in a cabin in the woods and then come home every day and be fine about it. but clark will be UPSET when he finds out. the audacity. the utter lack of taste

[juliareed]

#also in the deleted scene when she brutally called him out on what he did to lex#oh and also in season 6 when lionel was in a hospital bed and she asked him if he was in pain#and when he said yes she said 'good'#fandom was all 'lana is a bad person unworthy of clark she tortured lionel!😱'#and i was like 'wait thats a bad thing?🥰' (x)

Lana peaked as a character when she kidnapped Lionel, hid him in a cabin in the woods and had him tortured, and when he tried to escape, whacked him in the face with a shovel so hard he fainted.

[nileqt87]

Response to the idea that Smallville was the origin of the CW’s DC shows and other thoughts

Smallville really just took its formula from Buffy the Vampire Slayer (as did the revival of Doctor Who, same as Angel: the Series doing the same for Torchwood by Russell T Davies' own admission), which also has a superhero in high school origin story and a strange town overrun with freaky things happening. Smallville's meteor freaks were exactly like the Hellmouth and the high death rates of their respective student bodies.

Roswell is another show that had a similar setup and was actually the first WB show about aliens with magic powers in high school. Max Evans is not too subtly Clark Kent-like, right down to the famous moment of transforming a lump of coal into a diamond. The alien/human hybrid quartet of Max Evans, Michael Guerin, Isabel Evans and the infamous Tess Harding are reincarnations of alien royalty/elite from a destroyed planet, so the connection is obvious.

Except that show went far further with what would happen if the government found out than Smallville dared beyond a few episodes here and there. Max certainly had more done to him (the White Room and going on the run in the finale) than Clark ever did in that regard. Humans who get a little too close to the inhuman with plans for science or personal gain certainly is a trope that pops up in other genre shows (often humans desiring eternal life at a cost or captive experimentation/torture).

Sheriff Jim Valenti (who was the villain of the Roswell High books the shows were based on!) turned out to be the kids' fiercest protector, not unlike Lionel Luthor, despite being initial antagonists. Lionel being the king of horrific fathers contrasted hugely with Jonathan Kent. Jor-El's A.I. practically martyred Jonathan in a trade for Lana Lang, so this version is absolutely not comparable to the Christopher Reeve version's relationship with Marlon Brando's! Smallville's Clark is nearly a reversal of the old films in regards to farm boy Clark being the real deal, not the mere disguises of Superman and the hapless reporter (this is also true of Dean Cain's iteration), as well as the nurture over nature message of the Kents being his true parents in all but blood, whereas the focus is strictly on Jor-El over Jonathan as the father figure in the 1978 and DCEU versions.

Closest to danger Clark ever got outside of Lex Luthor's experimentation (only with the anonymous blood vial that eventually led to hybrid Lex/Clark clone test tube baby Conner Kent) was from General Sam Lane and the anti-vigilantism plot, but Clark never got nearly so exposed. Max also told his secret in the first episode, so it's a stark contrast to how long it took for Clark to tell his love interests and friends. Clark and Lucifer Morningstar are the kings of the long-delayed reveal! By contrast, Angel waited seven whole episodes and most of the rest of the characters mentioned here did so in their first episode, if not their first scene.

The WB was already a home to many shows like Smallville, though it certainly started DC adopting the channel as their home to drop their properties into that already-established format.

Angel: the Series, Smallville and Supernatural were the more masculine side (Angel: the Series and Supernatural are definitely the most mature, horror-based shows, as well) on a channel that also had Buffy the Vampire Slayer (the original genre show on a channel that was heavily just sitcoms and 7th Heaven prior to 1997 and quickly transformed the whole channel), Charmed and Roswell (not to mention Dawson's Creek and other more soapy, non-genre offerings).

Shows like The X-Files and Buffy the Vampire Slayer were the ones that pretty much formed everything we expect from a modern fantasy/sci-fi/supernatural/horror series now, including the mix of overarching long-form story arcs and soap opera/relationship dramas mixed with the Monster of the Week and seasonal Big Bad formats. Monster of the Week (Smallville used Freak of the Week) and 'shipping were terms coined by The X-Files' fandom (yep, the biggest controversy of that show was whether Fox Mulder and Dana Scully should remain platonic colleagues as intended by the creator or become a romantic relationship, which took an interminable slow burn of seven seasons), while Big Bad (and thus arcs surrounding that Big Bad seeded throughout the season) was coined on Buffy the Vampire Slayer. All these terms are used for discussing nearly every subsequent genre show today. Television prior to these shows did not have these formats, minus the old-as-dirt episodic Monsters of the Week, but not using that terminology yet.

Smallville was a marriage of comic book superheroes into the genre show format that was already going strong on the old WB. Some of these other non-comic-origin characters wouldn't be out of place in the comic world either. Definitely true for Buffy Summers and Angel, as they basically are superheroes. Buffy has the more straight-forward Peter Parker-esque origin story, while Angel's is told completely non-linear (often through a slow drip of flashbacks--his soul was returned a century prior, not during the course of the show, yet he most certainly didn't become a hero then).

It's surprising that Supernatural never quite went all-out with a real comic tie-in presence beyond some short runs early on. Neither the comics or the novels use Castiel much at all, who is the most super-powered main on the roster (so much so that the show writers were terrified to put him in Monster of the Week episodes and even tried to kill him off in seasons 6/7 due to him making the Winchesters irrelevant). Castiel is the Eldritch being-level angelic equivalent of The Little Mermaid trying to understand humanity, but with the tragic ending of the novel.

Clark himself has a mix of Dorothy Gale (check out that Over the Rainbow shot on the bridge in Smallville's pilot, which is an image also echoed in Luke Skywalker's binary sunset, followed by him doing an Ariel pulling Lex Luthor from the water) and Peter Pan (more than just the flying boy--he also has an immortality problem) in his DNA.

It's that little piece of inconvenient canon (alluded to numerous times through Smallville) that is at the heart of the adverse reactions of many Superman purists who were horrified by Smallville's Clark choosing to live a human life and have a family with Lois in the CW's Crisis on Infinite Earths. It wasn't just because Tom Welling still refuses to wear tights, but because it was the real unsolved existential crisis facing the character. Conversations with the Kents, Dax-Ur and General Lane all exposed this issue as an insecurity he had quite early on in the series. It's hardly teen angst, nor was it with Angel and the Doctor saying it repeatedly to Buffy and Rose; it doesn't make it teen angst just because they were teenagers. Clark likewise shares the tragedy of many other inhuman immortals (and yet, they keep doing it!) in that he can't father children naturally with humans without some kind of sci-fi workaround (like Blue or Gold Kryptonite).

We might like to see these characters be Peter Pan forever, but sometimes even Peter needs to grow up (as in Hook), lest he forever remain a tragedy. Make no mistake, the immortality trope is always a tragedy, which is why so many of these characters either run away from seeing it played out or they most desire to live human lives. Having duties greater than themselves and a need to save lives they'd never be able to as mortals are often the reasons for these sacrifices, but it still remains a sacrifice and ultimately a damnation, not a gift. These characters are either doomed to lose everyone they've ever loved or go out in a blaze of glory, which is what television shows using the trope are actually daring to show more recently.

Not being a tragic horror story, Superman tends to avoid it, but it's the same problem. That brief scene in Crisis on Infinite Earths was more in line with Smallville than Superman purists wished.

The Doctor is Peter Pan. It's most obvious with the imagery of little and big Amelia Pond in her nightgown, but the story with Rose Tyler juxtaposed beside Sarah Jane Smith also shows his Peter Pan-esque tendencies. He's the immortal who keeps picking up new companions to take on far-off adventures, only to leave them behind over and over again before he has to face their human mortality. Although the Doctor is older than Spock, he has picked up many Spockisms over the years like touch telepathy (yup, the Vulcan mind-meld), the half-human aspect of the 1996 TV movie that fans and the show do their best to ignore and the 10th Doctor's sacrifice via a glass case of radiation (see The Wrath of Khan).

Angel, of course, is Pinocchio (with a big dollop of Highlander's Prize), the Beast, the immortality of Peter Pan, Louis de Pointe du Lac and pre-retcon evil!Lestat de Lioncourt (the retconned one is, of course, Spike) morphed into Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, and a touch of Steve Rogers meets Clark Kent, but with the aesthetic (not character) of Bruce Wayne (that mix is all there). Like Pinocchio and the Beast, there are those major elements of temptation, redemption and atonement.

The Buffyverse definitely borrowed heavily from the sympathetic vampire begun by Varney the Vampire, Nosferatu's plagiarization of Dracula that gave birth to death by sunlight (see the whole aesthetic of the Buffyverse's Master), the antiheroization (quite evil initially) in Dark Shadows, the archetypes of Anne Rice (the entire Master + Fanged Four are her lineup--Akasha, Gabrielle, IwtV!Lestat/Louis, Claudia and retcon!Lestat vs. the Master, Darla, Angel(us), Drusilla and Spike), the prosthetics of The Lost Boys and the vampire detective setup of Forever Knight (which copied Barnabas Collins' cure for vampirism arc, while Angel's Shanshu borrows more from Highlander's Prize). Blade and Angel added apocalypse-fighting/comic superheroes to that mix.

Ironically, the more recent examples of the good vampire have gutted their mythologies of evil-default vampires entirely (making the exceptions to the rule far less alienated and unique amongst their own kinds) and certainly kicked out the apocalyptic superheroing for soap opera. The Buffyverse is ironically closer to Anne Rice's full-blooded, evil, murderous inhuman creatures (no matter the guilt and eating rats in alleys) than it is Twilight and The Vampire Diaries in spite of the human/inhuman romance plots, marking a strong separation between the WB's era and the CW's.

That's a strong example of how the genre show environment has changed in the last two decades, so it's not just the differences between the eras of Smallville and the Arrowverse/DCEU.

Supernatural is a particularly weird example in that it ran for so long with the same cast (unlike Doctor Who, which is fast approaching its 60th anniversary and has gone through many changes, not just its format) that it was still following the same show format and catering to a generation who grew up along with it (not to mention the actors going from young to middle-aged) from 2005 through 2020. The format all the way to the end (though never again as desaturated, jump-scare horrific as that first season was--its inspirations from The X-Files showed) is most certainly pre-streaming and owes much to its old WB origins using a formula born in the 1990s, despite the CW's rebranding in 2006. Castiel's ushering in of the whole angel mythology was the most seismic change in Supernatural's history, though even he was like a horror creature early on. The show certainly had early comedy episodes, but they definitely got more frequent later. One only has to look at the season 15 premiere's handling of the Woman in White and Bloody Mary's returns to see how alien the season 1 atmosphere was to the show by then.

Buffy the Vampire Slayer likewise shed its gothic horror atmosphere and went into the sunlight (not for the better) around the time Angel took his gothic fairy tale-turned-noir with him to L.A. See Lucifer aiming for the same aesthetic in its first season. Smallville was likewise a show that spanned the WB and CW, but before the television landscape completely left that late-'90s/'00s aesthetic. You can definitely start to feel similar differences in the change from Smallville High to Metropolis and Lana to Lois. There's a pretty stark generational shift in the shows aimed at late Gen-X/older Gen-Y (Millennials) and now Gen-Z (Zoomers). That's the biggest shift between the WB and the Arrowverse-era CW.

Castiel, despite him learning how to love, being the ultimate example of free will in a mythology that has none by design (he truly did have a “crack in his chassis”) and even adopting a son whom he can finally relate to, ends with him tired, very sad and unloved in return. Not a single character in the history of Supernatural ever tells Castiel that they love him. Frankly, Meg and Crowley, who kept saving his life, showed more care about and affection for him than the Winchesters, particularly Dean (who belittled, refused to help and abandoned Castiel for years before the Jack and Mary drama shattered the relationship irrevocably). Sam, who used to feel the same othering from John and Dean as the Boy with the Demon Blood that got heaped on Castiel if he dared remind Dean he wasn’t “human, or at least like one”, had a bad habit of following his brother in questionable acts like putting Jack in the box. Castiel says he loves others several times, but he never once hears it back. As in The Little Mermaid, Castiel sacrifices himself for someone who will never love him back, except in place of sea form is the black goo of the Empty. At least Jack cared, but you’ll notice Castiel is nowhere to be seen when the Winchesters reunite in Heaven. Not even Sam (who was equally sad and tired at the end, while Dean was just angrily lashing out at everyone while blaming everyone but himself) bothered to place a single photo of Castiel amongst his shrine to John, Mary and Dean. Sam literally knew Castiel longer than he ever knew Mary and his relationship with John was so bad that he left his father and brother to go to Stanford. Boy, did that final episode say it all about Castiel loving, but never being loved in return. Bobby Singer was wrong; it turns out that, for the Winchesters, family did end in blood.

The alienated outsider archetype who doesn't quite fit in amongst human society (often with an immortality/lifespan problem on top of other interspecies differences), but often desperately wants to find human belonging, love and family, is true of characters like Clark, the Doctor, Spock, Connor/Duncan MacLeod, Angel, Castiel, Lucifer, etc... These are subsequently the shows and storylines that borrow most from the Superman mythos.

See the many takes on Superman II's Pinocchio plot, except having to give it all up for a higher purpose (not to mention many other Beauty and the Beast, The Little Mermaid, Pinocchio and Peter Pan parallels), such as Angel's I Will Remember You, Smallville!Clark's Arrival/Mortal/Hidden, the Doctor's Human Nature/The Family of Blood and Castiel's season 9 arc.

That's Superman and Clark's real impact on the television landscape.

[stachmousworld]

Smallville rant 1

I'm currently watching Smallville (I'm on season 5) and there are a few things that annoyed me. For context, I watched the series when I was a kid and now I'm in my mid 20's.

I used to dislike Lex and Lana for whatever reason I had when I was younger and I thought that Clark was better without them. I really don't remember finding one flaw in Clark personnality and God was I blind.

Now, the tables have turned.

I can't stand Clark. Like, the more we go and the less I can stand him. He is nosy as hell. I didn't even remember how much until I bingewatched the episodes. People have been telling him to tune down his own curiosity but he can't help it. And when people do the same as him and get a little closer to his secret, he lashes out and gaslight.

He is self-righteous and rude. I don't understand how Lex have been friend with him besides saving his life. The number of times Clark had insulted Lex, accused him of things he never did and never apologized (at least not on screen) is ridiculous. I know Lex isn't blameless but during the 4 first seasons, he was a good friend. He even considered Clark his bff and brother. Mind you, when shit went downhill, Clark tried to defend Lionel and said to Lex that he was getting like his father (the ultimate insult considering that Lionel was an abusive piece of shit who killed his own parents).

And even then, Lex tried to see the good in his dad, who, mind you, tried to actively kill him and tortured him while he was in a mental institution. All because Clark told him to.

Clark expected from his entourage to know every single of their secret despite hiding his and lying constantly. It was a mess.

And let's not forget about Lana. I know Clark saved her from her exes who turned out to be evil but Lord. He stalked her while she was on dates. Like come on...

[analeighvilanova]

Smallville

The sad thing is it's been 20 years and people still don't understand grooming, gaslighting, abuse, or manipulation. I've read so much on Lana deserved Lex to hit her or the phantom pregnancy because she didn't realize he was evil. She didn't "allow" Lex to manipulate her for all those years they were friends. If you're friends with someone at a young age, you may not think them capable of certain behaviors.  Especially if they are overly kind to you.  Lex is overly kind, because of his need for close bonds.

He strangles Lex over their bank accounts and Lex is too afraid to tell anyone qhat happened. Even other residents such as the Kent's know of this abuse. They don't approach Lionel or tell Lex the truth. They also don't want Clark involved in saving Lex, incase his powers are shown.  Lionel begins forcing drugs into his son's food to get him institutionalized and brainwashed into believing Lionel didn't kill their family members. No one on the show talks to Lionel about these things. Lionel pretends like Lex and Lillian were crazy and he had to prevent them at all costs.  However, he originally he goaded Lex into being evil. On purpose, for pleasure. He's never told off by anyone for these things.  Instead he tells everyone that he was only trying to prevent Lex from making mistakes.  Mistakes he encouraged not too long ago, in Onyx when Lex was all hardcore.  people like to say he was never evil and only misunderstood. Some people also victim shame Lex, saying he deserved the abuse because he's going to turn out evil anyway. The double standard of glossing over Lionel's sins while pretending he was handled properly. Just to say that Lana wasn't, although she was called out by Lionel and Chloe is a double standard that many fans participate in.

While experiences shape someone, in the end they have the decision to change. And Lex knows what he's doing is wrong, and has no intention of stopping. He begins to take pleasure in watching the experiments and torturing the subjects. He could try to change, but doesn't want to. In Freak, Lana becomes suspicious when meteor-freaks are being killed off. She knows Lex studies meteor-freaks, but doesn't think he's the one kidnapping them. Until the end of the episode, when he makes an obvious deflection and swear. Because it's become his nature to be this way. He gave hcg (human chorionic hormones) which are real by the way, because she was suspicious of whether or not his projects were really to help people or had ulterior motives. His goading Lana into trusting him, and constant need to compare himself to Clark showcases insecurities.  That Lex might've had because of the way he grew up in an abusive household.

These views are forceful in not trying to understand the character's situations. I know women who have been abused by a partner they thought they could trust, because they knew them for years. It leads to a mental breakdown, which is what the character is meant to be going through. Just like I know children who are spiteful because they've been abused by their father or mother. People either change and decide to help others- (Lana's decision not to kill Lex and become a hero in 8) or stay in their depression and cannot change (Lex's decision to not change). It's not their true nature, it's a bi-product of abuse. Lex's destiny represents continuing the cycle of abuse.  Lex killing his father out of rage represents this.

[jor-elsemissary]

Jason instinctively knows that in order to keep his mother on this Earth and alive, he needs a component from those that had killed her. He still doesn’t want to hurt Lana, he still has feelings for her.

So he decides that Lionel Luthor is the real reason his mother died. He had lied to her about the stone’s location which led to his mother being killed by Lana’s ancestor.

But he finds that taking Lionel’s blood isn’t enough. He isn’t sure what would make it work but his mother tells him that it may require a willing sacrifice on Lionel’s part. They both know he won’t willingly help them.

So they decide to kidnap someone close to him. Lex isn’t easy to get to anymore, the man has learned from his past mistakes. But Martha Kent? She’s just a farmers wife. Right?

She’s taken and wakes up chained to a bed. Lionel is tied to a chair, looking pale and weak. He becomes agitated when he realizes whom they have brought.

Jason tells her in order to save his mother, he needs Lionel’s heart. But taking it won’t work, he has to willingly give it up. Something about angry spirits still being attached to the heart. He intends to torture her until Lionel gives it up.

Hostage situation 2

Lets just ignore that Jason and Genevieve died, And they are back for revenge, and what better way to do that then to use lionels vulnerability for Martha to make him suffer for the pain they went through? I'm not really a writer, easier to turn ideas into edits 😅

[effervescent7]

Lana, Lex, Clark, and Lionel debate

This is a Lana Clark Lex and Lionel debate

X 6 years ago

"Clark means more to me than you ever will" No Lana the only person who means more to you than anyone is yourself.

LO 6 years ago

STFU REJECT

X 6 years ago

@LO STFU Lana fanboy.

Supernova 2 days ago

That's why Lana did all of that volunteer work for blood drives. Or helped Adam when he pretended to be homeless. Wanted to use Lex's money for halfway houses and immigrant slavery. You know this Lana-hate which THANK GOODNESS is almost over is just out of spite.

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X 1 day ago

@Supernova She was the show's worst character. Treated like a perfect saintly Mary Sue who could do no wrong even though she can and had done plenty of wrong. She was a hypocrite who supposedly hated being lied to and having secrets kept from her only to lie and keep secrets herself. Her entire relationship with Clark was her trying to force him to tell her about his powers then having a tantrum when he wouldn't. She got jealous when men she fancied kissed other women even if she was with other men at the time. Even when she was with Whitney she gave Clark and Chloe a jealous look when she saw them kissing. Because Lana apparently believed that men had to pine for her until she was ready for them. Characters who were complete strangers to her would call her amazing out of nowhere even though she wasn't which was just the original producers projecting their obsession with the actress and character. Her and Clark's relationship was lust not love. They only liked each other for their looks and because they wanted to have sex. Anything Lana did wrong was ignored or portrayed as right. Like kidnapping the reformed Lionel and having him held hostage by a crazy woman for forcing her to marry Lex, when she was with Lex she threatened to have the college fund of the daughter of a LuthorCorp employee cut off unless said employee gave her the box from Brainiac's ship, she pretended to set up a clinic to help Kryptonite powered people but instead just used it to spy on Lex, nearly killed Lois while trying to kill Lex. People hate Lana because she's the worst character in the show, never had a clear set in stone character, was played by an actress hired for her looks not her acting ability, in other versions of Superman Lana Lang is just Clark's high school girlfriend. Therefore Lana should have left the show for good when she went to France at the end of Season 3. Instead they kept her around until Season 8. She was one of the most evil characters in the show yet was treated as if she was pure and innocent. At least Smallville's other villains were shown to be what they were.

A 8 hours ago (edited)

Only lust not love? When there were together they often go on normal dates, which they talk about of you listen to the dialogue. Apparently they always either go out to dinner, horse-riding, or dancing. They don't even sleep together for years of being friends. Anyway Clark is the major gaslighter in the show, gaslighting means making someone believe something isn't true even when they know it is. That is all Clark does to Lana and Lex throughout the first 3 seasons every-time someone threatens them about Clark. Lex tries to talk to him after being told by multiple people that Clark has a dangerous secret (like Lana) and just asks Clark outright. "Friendships built on secrets are destined to fail" and Clark says "good thing we don't have that problem". This is actually gaslighting. Making someone believe that something didn't happen, which can actually drive people out of their minds. "There's nothing more to me than what you see" to Lana who actually saw him use his powers "You'd still be the same Clark Kent." Which is what she says every-time she asks about the secret which is really in 3x02, gunpoint 3x03 after being kidnapped over the secret, and 5x10 because he suddenly stopped when they were going to sleep together. Then of course Clark blames her for moving away to college. And wait she actually think she asks about his health, because at this point she went to Lex and told him to stay away from Clark because he's "just like the rest of us". As for secrets in season 4 Lana admits everything which she had already told her current boyfriend and Lex about. She tells Clark after they become friends again. Why tell someone something if you aren't even talking to them? Then we see in 5x10 that Lana brings up aliens and tries to talk about the spaceship with Clark, before it's revealed that she accepted Lex's offer. Because Lex truly thinks aliens are going to invade and take over the world. Once Lex is revealed, you really expect her just to lie back and know that he's doing a ton of messed up stuff and not go after him? Lex is evil, but let him be? Going after an evil person doesn't make someone evil. And oh Lionel- didn't he kill his parents and a ton of innocent people over the years. Didn't he abuse his family? Who cares! But you seem to forget that Lana did save Lois' in Gone and Arrival. As for Lois, Chloe does confront her about that. But no Lana is not evil, she goes through therapy and reformation before returning because of some mental issues from being with Lex. And is your comment is less an accurate view of the show and more a rant.

X 7 hours ago @Ambrosia 777 She was right to go after Lex but didn't care how many innocents she hurt to get to him. And Lionel had redeemed himself after switching bodies with Clark cured him of a liver disease that was killing him and spent the rest of his life protecting Clark until Lex killed him. As bad as Clark's lying and secret keeping was he was doing it to protect people and make it so they didn't get put in danger or killed by his life as a hero.

A 6 hours ago

But she didn't plan to hurt Grant or Lois. Grant only didn't want to expose Lex because he worked for him. Anyway Lana had mental issues, she needed to work through. A fake pregnancy and finding out all of those things she defended Lex from were actually real broke her. But then and I read that blog post, she really did torture. herself because she didn't want to be that kind of person. Anyway the Black Box was supposed to protect the world from an alien invasion, until Lex wanted to start using it to make weapons. Then she disagreed, because she didn't want innocent people to die. Because she's not a Lex copy.

A 6 hours ago

Oh no I'm not a Clark hater at all. But I really hated how he pretended like Lex and Lana were imagining things and all of those people that kept telling them about him were lying. I know Clark is a good guy, but that took a toll on his friendships with them. They tried to prove they would care about him no matter what he was or why all of those things were happening. If a ton of people tried to kill me, then said yow know Clark has a secret. I'd want to know. And it's not like they argued with him about it, they asked directly. Straight to the source. Far better than just ending the relationship because Clark had a secret identity. Until Lex flat out started stalking him and that whole thing in Mortal which I will not excuse.

L 2 days ago (edited)

​ @A  All that truth scarred him off. Adults blindly hating a teenage girl and insulting the actress don't need attention anyway. To think that Lionel spent his entire life killing people and being a wife beater, to earn sudden forgiveness and still treat Lex like crap. While Lex turns into this kind of misguided monster. And Lana spends 1 year doing questionable things to protect the world from aliens or Lex and she's evil! Don't get me started on that teenage crap this grown man commented at first.

L 3 hours ago

And where does this “whining” all the time come from?! She asks twice in season 3 after Clark runs away and doesn't ask again until season 5. Compare that to Chloe seasons 1-3. I think Lana-haters know they just exaggerate and hate the character because they're insecure or immature. Especially when it's a grown man saying these hateful things.

X 3 hours ago

@L  Horrible things Lex and Lionel did were acknowledged as horrible. Horrible things Lana did were either ignored completely or treated as if they were right. Not liking a badly written and acted character isn't insecurity or immaturity. And there are plenty of women who hate the character of Lana as well. You liking her doesn't mean everyone has to.

A 9 minutes ago

You don't have to. Some of the things you said about Kristin and Lana in other comments read that way. And I truly think Lex and Lionel were evil because they had no reason to do those things. But Lana truly believed Lex when he said the Black Box could stop and invasion. And was mentally shook when he was revealed to be a bad guy who does all of these things she thought he wouldn't do, so she went after him. I'm just saying she's not evil or monstrous and ignoring the plot or reasons to hate Lana is unreasonable. And Isis was used to help meteor-freaks after she changed and stopped going after Lex.

L 4 minutes ago (edited)

@A that explained it way better than I did. If someone believes they are stopping a huge evil are they evil? Especially when compared to people who do worse things for their own amusement.

[rovethings]

Smallville really could go with any route - Lex thinking he's making the right choice and saving the world but making more and more questionable choices until he's in too deep, Lex getting tired and hurt from Clark's lies and doing things to hurt Clark, Lex remembering Shattered/Asylum and flipping it, Lex *anything* but they gotten tired of their own slow narrative into making Lex a villain and did a complete 180° with Lex huh.

In what *universe* would Smallville Lex, who admires and wants the Kents to accept him in their family so so bad, plan something that would put not only the Kents, but Lana (who he seems to be in love now) in danger? In what *universe* would Smallville Lex not only make a weapon that endanger ocean life, but not care about it? When all he did since season 1 is like ... care about his employees and the lives he affect? And in what *universe* would Smallville Lex torture someone and let them to die? He can reactly aggressively, and I mean, we all saw what he did with Helen and all his I'm-going-to-put-a-gun-in-my-fathers-face, but he was never the "torture and enjoy it" type ... like that's Lionel.

It's like they wanted Lionel to be the good guy (and this could also be another good motive for Lex to turn into villainy! He saw the Kents accepting his abuser but never himself and Lionel acting all highly and mightily that he took the "Lionel mantle" for himself) and they didn't know what to do with Lex now so they just threw his characterization in the trash and didn't thought we would notice lmao

[bradtim]

Okay so this was posted by Effervescent7 but I edited to be better. The original post is called "This is My Last Post.. " on Smallville wikia.

So through the seasons Lana is 14-15-16-17-18-19 and the age difference is 6 1/2 years so Lex is 21-22-23-24-25-26 she's a teen girl The sad thing is it's been 20 years and people still don't understand grooming, gaslighting, abuse, or manipulation.

They just make excuses to blame everything on either her or him and hate one or the other. Now I know I didn't have to. But I've read so much on Lana deserved Lex to hit her or the phantom pregnancy because she didn't realize he was evil. Or she allowed Lex to manipulate her for all those years they were friends. But if someone has known you since you were 14, and is seemingly a decent person, of course you aren't going to think them capable of certain behaviors. Especially if they go out of their way to be overly affectionate or gentle with you. I’m surprised the alien research is read as evil at all after the events of the episodes Zod and Arrival, especially. Victim shaming/ blaming is the worst IRL and in forums. No, going after someone evil doesn't make you evil if they kill innocent people. And if you think aliens are going to invade, because you saw them massacre and heard their plans to take over the world, of course you will make a threat on someone's job if they get the property destroyed. Threatening the man's job and financial stability was an empty threat, but not out of evil intention or malice. He strangles Lex over their bank accounts and Lex is too afraid to tell anyone qhat happened. Even other residents such as the Kents know of the institution plot.

They don't approach Lionel or tell Lex the truth. Or even how Lionel was poisoning him to cover up the murder of Lionel's own parents. If people can side with him, even though he escapes prison for all of these accounts. Even forcing drugs into his food to get him institutionalized and brainwashed. No one on the show talks to Lionel about these things. Lionel pretends like Lex and Lillian were crazy and he had to prevent them at all costs, but originally he goaded Lex into being evil. On purpose, for pleasure. He's never told off by anyone for these things. And people like to say he was never evil and only misunderstood. Some people also victim shame Lex, saying he deserved the abuse because he's going to turn out evil anyway. The double standard of glossing over Lionel's sins while pretending he was handled properly. Just to say that Lana wasn't, although she was called out by Lionel and Chloe is a double standard that many fans partipate in. Then there's people who are Lex-apologists and blame Lionel, Clark, and specifically Lana for Lex's descent to evil. While experiences shape someone, in the end they have the decision to change. And Lex knows what he's doing is wrong, and has no intention of stopping. He begins to take pleasure in watching the experiments and torturing the subjects. He could try to change, but doesn't want to. In Freak, Lana becomes suspicious when meteor-freaks are being killed off. She knows Lex studies meteor-freaks, but doesn't think he's the one kidnapping them. Until the end of the episode, when he makes an obvious deflection and swear.

Because it's become his nature to be this way. He gave hcg (human chorionic hormones) which are real by the way, because she was suspicious of whether or not his projects were really to help people or had ulterior motives. His goading Lana into trusting him, and constant need to compare himself to Clark is all to distract her and bring her closer to him. She's trusted this man with personal problems and her economics since she was 14. And that's part of her character too. Even in a deleted scene from 3.16 she tells the FBI Lex isn't capable of money-laundering. It's important to remember Lex isn't the victim here. Lex who's become someone that locks people in cages to experiment, then kills them after.

These views are forceful in not trying to understand the character's situations. I know women who have been abused by a partner they thought they could trust, because they knew them for years. It leads to a mental breakdown, which is what the character is meant to be going through. Just like I know children who are spiteful because they've been abused by their father or mother. People either change and decide to help others- (Lana's decision not to kill Lex and become a hero in 8) or stay in their depression and cannot change (Lex's decision to not change). It's not their true nature, it's a bi-product of abuse. Lex's destiny represents continuing the cycle- why he kills his father.

[raelis1]

#no this is why I'm hating s6…#totally agree that lex's behaviour makes some sense as negative development but also is really ooc wrt this version of him.#why is he suddenly so cold with lana too? just compared to his behaviour at the end of s5 it's jarring#the thanksgiving scene is so bizarre and it's obvious it was done for the symbolism#rather than staying true to the characters and their actual dynamic...#compared to how he could tell she wasn't comfortable with the big birthday party her aunt wanted back in s1#or them waking up on the couch together with takeout containers on the coffee table at the end of s5?#this was only a few episodes ago. where did that intimacy and understanding go? (via @cryingalexanders)

SMALLVILLE | 2.19— “Precipice”

[stromecat]

my smallville opinions that no one gives 2 shakes of a rats ass about: 

1. c/lana is literally the worst thing to happen in the history of the world. wtf would you let this toxic waste dump of a relationship last so LONG? when they broke up in s5 it should have been over. 

2. clark is literally the biggest big old dumb dumb this side of dumb mountain

3. chloe goes from being the worst ever to literally i don’t hecking care about you why are you on my screen and how does anyone care about you at all?

4. i don’t care about lex. i don’t feel bad for lex. he’s interesting to watch from time to time but i honestly don’t root for him. you can tell when rosenbaum enjoys a story or a plot (mostly evil lex) because he gives it all.

5. lionel is literally lol-larious. it doesn’t matter if he’s hell spawn lionel or in the grey lionel. john glover is so gr8.

6. I LOVE LOIS LANE WITH MY WHOLE ASS HEART? SHE COULD LITERALLY PUNCH OUT ALL MY TEETH AND I WOULD THANK HER. 

7. jonathan and martha are too good. we don’t deserve them.

8. i can’t believe smallville made me like an live action oliver queen? gj

9. lois was probably the love of ollie’s life and their break up in justice is so good

10. omg why do i have to wait so long for clois jfc this is torture

11. i heard so many bad things about kara and she’s honestly not bad at all?? i actually like her a lot??

TL:DR lois lane is my life. fuck c/lana. clark is dumb.

[jupitermelichios]

Smallville S1 E19

Oh good, this one’s called Crush. Please let it be about Pacific Rim, and not another excuse to have underage girls stripping. Please?

- This is a children’s hospital. This guy looks about 37. Where there no teen actors available when you cast this?

- Does this doctor always wear a bow-tie and dress shirt to work? He looks like he’s about to go to the opera, not perform surgery.

- Based on the weather, I'm guessing this hospital is next door to Dracula’s castle

- So we’ve got imposing building, a dark and stormy night complete with gothic lightning, a sinister doctor and a tortured artistic genius out for revenge. Is this a Hammer horror movie?! Because I’d be 100% down for a Hammer movie starring Lex Luthor.

- Wow, the doctor is apparently a Saturday morning cartoon villain! Do you often boast about deliberately half-assing surgeries when you’re still in the hospital? No wonder you keep getting sued!

- A+ use of those plastic hands you get in cheap joke shops, effects team, 100% convincing, really. I know you don’t have any budget but seriously? That’s the best you could do?

- Why the fuck did you give Clark the job of signing you up for a conference that is vital to your future which Clark isn’t even interested in, Chloe?

- Oh no, Clark has friends who aren’t you. Gee Chloe you’re right, literally nothing worse has ever happened in all of human history. Your overreaction is totally justified and doesn’t at all make you look pathetic!

- Worst exit line ever Chloe, seriously. Either storm off in silence or plan your lines in advance, that was just embarrassing!

- Wow Clark, you really know how to suck all the fucking air out of the room just by existing

- Seriously Clark, the only reason you’re thinking about asking out Chloe is because you don’t like not being the centre of her attention. You are a horrible person and I hope Lois finds someone else before you ever make it Metropolis because you don’t deserve happiness.

- This kid’s power is telekinesis, and he has no reason to kill anyone. Bets on at least one murder before the end of the episode?

- Oh my god. Whitney saw Lana enjoying a book and instantly went and found a play of it and bought her tickets with his allowance. He may actually be the perfect boyfriend.

- “Whitney’s paid more attention to me in the last two weeks than he has all year” HIS FATHER WAS DYING WAS ABSOLUTE PSYCHOPATH!

- Clark Kent: officially the worst friend. That could actually be the tag line for the whole show at this point

- Great, the Principle is running over his students. Goddamnit you were the only sane adult in this fucking show!

- Oh hey, look at that. 20 minutes in and we have a murder. What the fuck is with this show?!

- Clark legit thinks the best way to learn about women is to read ‘Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus’ as opposed to treating them like fucking human beings

- I hate you Clark, have I mentioned that lately?

- Don’t worry Lex, somewhere out there is a terrifying 6ft woman with a penchent for business wear and semi-automatics just waiting for you to make her your Mercy Graves

- Oh great, now even the Luthors are just letting themselves into each other's houses. What is it with the town and invasions of privacy?!

- It’s interesting Lionel, you are objectively the worst person in this show, and yet I hate you so much less than Clark and his friends. I think maybe it’s the flouncing that redeems you for me. And the fact that you’re not an utter moron.

- Wait, Justin killed this guy on the basis of a fucking partial numberplate match? A PARTIAL MATCH?! THREE FUCKING DIGITS?! WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH EVERYONE IN THIS TOWN?!!!!

- It’s important to draw comics about the murders you commit and then leave them lying around for anyone to find. Otherwise how will plucky girl reporters find out you’re the murderer and then put themselves in a position for you to threaten their lives?

- Stop toying with her! If you hurry you can kill her before Clark arrives and save us from another 8 seasons of her toxic bullshit

- Goddamit Justin, you had one fucking job! One!

- "Sorry to hear that your dad was brutally murdered and you probably found the body. If you don’t turn yourself in for reckless driving right now I’m going to the cops”

- The number of times Lex mentions being able to cure people if he ships in better doctors from out of town makes me really worry about the quality of care offered at Smallville Hospital...

- Oh good, Lex is losing another mother figure, that’s exactly what this episode needed...

- “He’s in the psych ward, he won’t hurt anyone else” In what way is the psych ward equipped to deal with a murderous telekinetic?!

- Why do I get the feeling I’m going to hate Chloe/Clark even more than I hate Lana/Clark?

- For fuck’s sake, Whitney gets half an episode of being happy and then they kill his fucking father. Why do the writers hate Whitney so much?! He has done nothing to deserve it!

- Three people lost parents in this episode. That’s a lot of parent death for 40 minutes of high school drama.

[jade4813]

Speaking of Smallville, we know that Clois is your ship. Did you have ships that you hated or disliked?

Clois was my shiiiiiiiiip! I did also love Lollie.As for ships I hated...Clana. I mean, it was fine for what it was for the first couple of years (a ship never intended to work). But they dragged it out WAY too long and both characters just ended up being so TOXIC for each other until they actually made Lana physically toxic and ugh.I actually wanted Chloe and Clark to date in early seasons, but I grew to pretty much detest Chloe so that ship died an ignominious death. And with her psychologically torturing Ollie and everyone still treating her like the sun shone out of her ass, regardless of the shady shit she did, I hated that ship too. I didn't hate it, but I never thought the Martha/Lionel ship made a damn bit of sense, given what she knew about him by the time it happened. Also, I love John Glover, but going from Jonathan to Lionel is a definite downgrade.I liked Lex and Lana - I thought it was interesting. Until they used it to ruin Lex. Then I hated it. Lex and Chloe would have been interesting.I didn't hate Clark and Alicia, but I don't get the fandom love for it. It was *shrug* to me.I think that's it?