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ride-thedragon · 7 months ago
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Nettles, Rhaenyra, Laena, Mysaria, and the Prize that is DAEMON TARGARYEN
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Now, I'm not going to sit here and police shipping. I'm also not going to act as though better writers and thinkers long before me haven't talked about the same phenomenon of centring men in women's narratives as a way to value the women. However, as a person in this fandom, I do want to apply this thought to the shipping discourse of Daemon Targaryen because it has become exhausted.
We treat this man as though he's the prize to gain when these women are in relationships with him. In the sense that when Daemon picks these women to have a relationship with they gain a value and devalue the women he leaves behind. We see this with him going:
from Rhea and Mysaria to Laena.
He finally has a Valyrian bride who matches his spirit and can give him Valyrian children. They get along and are of equal standing.
From Laena to Rhaenyra.
He moves on, finds real happiness, finds his true family, becomes the Targaryen he was destined to be with his Targaryen bride at his side, and their Targaryen children with his real family
From Rhaenyra to Mysaria .
Rhaenyra became mournful and wasn't as she once was. Him and Mysaria just have this connection, and Rhaenyra approves.
From Rhaenyra and Mysaria to Nettles.
Daemon finally found someone he could look past himself for. The singers say they end up together. He does all of this and leaves the Rhaenyra to her death because Nettles left. He's finally ready to settle down and grow old. She saved him.
All of this is an overgeneralised hyperbole of conversations I've seen, but they always centre Daemon choosing these women to be in a relationship with as their biggest accomplishment in the narrative. Him at their side is the biggest deal, and when he leaves them, they are discarded and replaced by his new love interest.
The issue with this
Prioritising a man, this man, as the main factor in these relationships, discredit the women who exist outside of him and make it seem as though he's the only thing that adds value to them. The language being used, in short, dismisses their personhood and equates them to something he can own, discard and replace at whim, and he alone adds value to them. It's icky language especially with his game card.
Lady Rhea: wasn't even her choice. She hated him and refused to give him an heir to inherit Runestone. In the show, she makes sure he returns and kills her by insulting his sexual prowess.
Mysaria: is complicit and involved in his worst action but always ensures she pulls herself up with it. Being his courtesan made her wealthy, almost made her his wife. Then she's complicit in blood and cheese and gets herself promoted to the Lady of Whispers to the Queen, eventually putting an end to him.
Laena: CLAIMED THE LARGEST DRAGON IN THE WORLD AS A TEEN. Is quite literally the mother of the girls that survived the Dance. Her blood inherits her house's seat.
Rhaenyra: Queen of the Seven Kingdoms. Had men avenge her death, and her son sat on the iron throne after her.
Nettles: created the religion that forged the most dangerous tribe in the Vale of Arryn. Claimed a wild dragon and committed alleged treason and escaped.
I'm not saying Daemon isn't important. I'm not saying he doesn't play a part. I'm saying that when we have these conversations about him and these women and the progression of his relationships with them, I hope we can reach a place where the idea that he leaves them isn't a jab or joke against one woman for the sake of the one he chooses. It's getting strange.
Women don't lose value because of a man. Ever.
This also applies to Baela and her adaptation in the show. She isn't uninteresting because she isn't a tomboy or like Daemon. They make her a political girl in the show and like Laena. That's not a loss. She's modelled after Rhaenys as well. She's just reflective of the women in her life. I'm sure she'll have a relationship to Daemon as well, but she's the Ward of Driftmark. That's quite interesting. We also have tomboys like Alysanne and Sabitha, so we aren't in a deficit by any means.
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gothicwill · 1 year ago
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So glad they didn’t put this in the show bc I genuinely would’ve spontaneously combusted.
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jess-the-vampire · 5 months ago
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Happy Pride!
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catboymoments · 22 days ago
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A bunch of nextgen timeline Clawthorne family stuff hehe… I love you old lady Eda the woman that you are. Also ft old lady Lilith and some sweet Raine/Bronwyn interactions :’) I really don’t draw them enough but they’re super close!!!
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arium-db · 3 months ago
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I will never tire of drawing these two blorbos
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oceanreveuse · 4 months ago
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big beefy men with all their body hair (that they know you love so much) and blowjobs… god specifically blowjobs. he’s watching you struggle to take his length into your throat, gagging and spluttering when your nose buries into his pubes until you pull yourself off, gasping and messy. you nuzzle into his happy trail, rubbing your soft cheek against the coarse hair and he’s literally all heart-eyes for you… not to mention when you busy yourself with his heavy balls oh lawwwd.. (〃ω〃)
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goosefries · 2 months ago
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do u like stars
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mistbix · 5 months ago
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happy pride to these 2 gay ass married witches <3
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soltytears · 2 years ago
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endgame <3
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poorly-drawn-mdzs · 4 months ago
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Flower Empowered.
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#poorly drawn mdzs#mdzs#lan wangji#wei wuxian#lan wunian#The absolute chaos that ensued when Lan Wangji showed up...those girls went wild.#We have to give kudos to narration that takes the form of a bunch of suitor seeking ladies.#They were so loud about being here for the hotties and whispering gossip. You go girls.#Wei Wuxian most likely just picked up a already tossed flower to throw. Second hand flowers...are still flowers I suppose.#Can you imagine if LWJ had allergies? Poor lad.#Okay it's time for the real gritty discussion point. The one everyone is waiting for me to talk about:#So...from where we are in the timeline...what the hell is WWX supposed to be wearing?#I'm serious. Put all the fanart out of your brain for a moment.#We are post burial grounds and sunshot campaign so he's had his little goth moment reveal.#*BUT* he is still with the Jiang sect. And by proxy of this flashback talking about his disrespect - they never bring up his attire.#meaning he is likely in some kind of Jiang Purple.#Continuity wise it really feels like this scene should have been *before* the burial mounds.#I understand why it's post - we need to build up on the mystery of how he became the YLLZ.#But also his personality feels way more 'pre-burial mounds WWX'. I think this was probably a 'I don't want to kill my darling' scene.#(The Phoenix mountain flashback is a lot of people's 'darling'. I am knowingly putting myself in the line of fire here).#I'm willingly putting him in Wen Qing's borrowed cloak and assuming people take him wearing it as like...a war trophy.#Historians will revise this moment later on but for now he *is* a hero of that war.
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b8ans · 8 days ago
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just finished the owl house 🥲
i rlly like raine’s post time-skip design and eda’s pre time-skip design so i just put two and two together (creative freedom) or maybe eda remade her old dress and wears it every so often
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electraslight · 7 days ago
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dollface
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issgoart · 7 months ago
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Another one of my favourite scenes from the owl house, the finale was so awesome! I hope you guys enjoy! What scene from the owl house should I draw next?
Image description: Luz is in Titan form and conjuring a light glyph, while Eda is in Harpy mode, grinning. King is letting out a sonic shout, while Raine is whistling with a determined expression
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slowthypiglordblr · 8 months ago
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Eda the Owl Lady's Greatest Achievement: Being a grandmother
Shhh King, Grandma Eda knows best
by @aweirdlatina
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garciajey · 8 months ago
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arium-db · 5 months ago
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Oop me too raine me too
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