#king james version

[king-james-bible-verses]

[onemomentinhispresence]

[avengers-21]

today’s verse ✨

“I waited patiently for the LORD; And he inclined unto me, and heard my cry. He brought me up also out of an horrible pit, out of the miry clay, And set my feet upon a rock, and established my goings.”

‭‭Psalm‬ ‭40‬:‭1‬-‭2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

[religious-extremist]

Mistranslation by the KJV, Luke 11:28

27 As Jesus was saying these things, a woman called out from the crowd and said to him, “Blessed is the womb that bore you, and the breasts which nursed you!”

King James Version

28 But Jesus said, “Yes, rather, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it.”

Eastern Orthodox Version

28 But Jesus said, “Yes, and more than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it.”

The Greek word menounge (μενοῦνγε), translated above in the text of verse 28 as “yea, more than that,” but rendered inaccurately in the KJV as "yea, rather," is the same word which occurs in Phil. 3:8, where the KJV gives Yea, doubtless, and in Rom. 10:18, where the KJV gives Yes, verily.

The force of menounge is that it corrects the previous statement, not by negating it, but by amplifying it.

Philippians 3:8 “Yes, without a doubt, I consider all things as loss in view of the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus, my Lord, for whom I suffered the loss of all things. I consider them as dung, so that I may gain Christ.”

Romans 10:18 “But I say, did they not hear? Yes, most certainly: Their sound went out into all the earth, Their words to the ends of the world.”

Evangelicals and opponents of traditional Christianity often frame this statement of Christ as proof that His Mother was not holy or deserving recognition, that she was merely a vessel with little importance, and this perspective directly results from a mistranslation of Christ’s words.

Indeed, blessed is she who contained the Uncontainable: Christ our God.

Understand that Luke’s Gospel was originally written in Greek, so perhaps we ought to study the original language that the scriptures were written in to have a better understanding of Christ’s life-giving message.

Edit: I made a Part Two, I might make it a series. The second part is linked below!

[justalowlyservant]

Isaiah 66:18

"For I know their works and their thoughts: it shall come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come, and see my glory."

[final-interlude]

"He hath shown thee, O man, what is good: and what doth the Lord require of thee but to do justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?"

— Micah, 6:8, The King Version Bible

[onceatpeace]

[mybeautifulchristianjourney]

The Lord's Prayer

2 And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.

3 Give us day by day our daily bread.

4 And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil. — Luke 11:2-4 | King James Version (KJV) The King James Version Bible is in the public domain Cross References: Exodus 16:4; Psalm 78:24-25; Proverbs 30:8; Isaiah 29:23; Ezekiel 36:23; Matthew 6:10-12; Matthew 6:14-15; Matthew 18:35; John 6:31-35; Romans 8:15; Ephesians 4:32; Colossians 3:13; 1 John 1:9; 1 John 2:12

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Thoughts on Today's Verse We approach the Lord as the holy and almighty God to be worshiped in reverence and our Abba Father, whom we approach as loving children. Rather than needing long, ornate, and lofty prayers, God wants us to speak with him about the most basic everyday issues and needs of our lives, trusting that he hears us and responds to our spiritual and physical requests by doing what we need while aligning us to his will and blessing us with his grace.

The Thoughts on Today's Verse are written by Phil Ware.

[camfusedly]

Bad news, everybody. I, an atheist, am looking through my New Living Translation Bible again (which I was given as a child.) (Note: This post will be about gay stuff under the cut.)

I was leafing through the first, pre-Bible pages and lo and behold. Look what I found.

This book is like "Hey here's some nice verses you might want to look up 😊" ***smacks you over the face with ABORTION***

Obviously the latter four of these are not directly about abortion in any way. But the first citation, if you read it in a good translation (unlike the NLT), it actually makes more sense to mean that the unborn are not considered people!! (Here's a three-minute video where the scholar Dan McClellan discusses abortion in the Bible, he addresses Exodus 21 about 50 seconds in.)

I had to look up what they had to say about homosexuality.

These verses probably* really are homophobic, but these summaries extrapolate them to harm the maximum number of queers.

(*I say "probably" because I think there is some wiggle-room to say "It's not about the gays at all!" Like I know the "It's about child abuse!" interpretation is popular among my crowd. I was convinced for a while but now I'm back to thinking that the above verses are probably homophobic.)

However, if there was a verse finder list for "David and Jonathan loving each other" that would be a much longer list!! In terms of sheer numbers, the Samuels are much more concerned with "Hey did you know David and Jonathan LOVED each other 👀" than the entire rest of the Bible is concerned with "Tell those [slurs] to stop fucking!"

But my favorite part is how they editorialize that "homosexual behavior has no place among Christians." And then. I turn a few more pages. And what do I see.

This long-ass page, absolutely kissing King James' ASS (my Bible has the NLT in one column and the King James in another).

If you want to read some love letters from King James to some young hot guy, here you go. He ends one of them like this: "And so God bless you, my sweet child and wife, and grant that ye may ever be a comfort to your dear dad and husband."

Sounds like homosexual behavior among some Christians.

[spugnaeros]

The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.

He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.

He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.

Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever.

[simpleman193]

Gotta say, these are quite wholsome.

"Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend."

Proverbs 27:17 KJV

[king-james-bible-verses]

[onemomentinhispresence]

[avengers-21]

today’s verse ✨

“For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.”

‭‭Matthew‬ ‭18‬:‭20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

[religious-extremist]

Issues with the KJV; Part II - Veneration of Mary and Saints

Worship and Divine Service

In modern English, the term "worship" (like the term "prayer") has mainly come to mean "an act offered exclusively to God." However, the original and official meaning of this word used to be much broader - as was the case of the Greek word proskyneo (προσκυνέω), which is normally applied to God, but also to human beings.

The idea conveyed by proskyneo is that of "offering obeisance," "making a physical demonstration of veneration and respect," or "prostrating oneself." (To put it extremely casually, like a curtsy.) In contemporary Orthodox terminology, the equivalent of proskyneo is often "venerate."

In the EOB, proskyneo is translated as "to express adoration" while it is often translated in the KJV as "to worship."

On the other hand, the Greek word latreia is exclusively used in reference to God.

In the EOB, latreia (λατρεία) is translated as "offering divine service" while it is translated in the KJV also as "to worship."

The Problem

So there is this issue of the KJV as it is today - with its immeasurable influence upon modern theology, the English language, and the Sola Scriptura doctrine professed by Protestant Christianity (and therefore the world) - combining two different words, proskyneo and latreia, under one translation: "worship."

The point of dissension that now comes up is that when those of the Old Religions, which existed before the King James Version, venerate the Blessed Virgin Mary, Protestants often denounce the Old Religions' disposition towards the Blessed Theotokos because their theology relies either wholly or partly on the KJV and the KJV tells them that proskyneo and latreia are the same thing, when historically - as attested to us by the oldest translations of the Bible - veneration and worship have never been the same thing.

To argue that veneration and worship are the same thing is like saying that criticism and insults are the same thing, or complimenting and confessing undying love is the same thing. They are markedly different.

The Old Religions -- the Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Roman Catholics, and Church of the East -- don't offer latreia (worship) to the saints but they offer proskyneo (veneration).

As a last exhibit, I will show to you Matthew 4:10 and Luke 4:8 where Christ quoted the Ten Commandments and said "Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve." (KJV) / "You shall express adoration to the Lord your God, and to Him only shall you offer divine service." (EOB)

For the sake of understanding, I will adapt the KJV to this:

"Thou shalt proskyneisis the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou latreusis."

That said, proskyneia or veneration for humans, saints, was never forbidden, but it is clear to all of us that latreia or worship is offered only to God.

[justalowlyservant]

Jeremiah 16:15

"But, The LORD liveth, that brought up the children of Israel from the land of the north, and from all the lands whither he had driven them: and I will bring them again into their land that I gave unto their fathers."