#kinda a rant thing

[lazycrow12]

Alright, before I start I would like to preface this. I have not read the Odyssey. I don't plan to read the Odyssey. This post will be based on someone who has no connection to the Odyssey. I will say that I have heard somethings about it from people posting about it so I know about what Book!Calypso did to book!Oddeysus and I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about the epic version so please keep that in mind when reading please and thank you. Now, onto the post

My Thoughts On Calypso And How She's Being Treated By The Fandom

TW: Mentions of 🍇, I'll warn you when it appears

Firstly, I love Calypso. I love her story and how tragic it is and how she handles it and how it has affected her. Her voice actor Barbara Wangui has an absolutely lovely voice. I love how light and airy it is while still conveying emotions and I love the way she makes Calypso sound in the songs. I also love Calypso herself, GiGi's design is very pretty and the animatics they did show her emotions very well. Love the frame in Love In Paradise where Calypso ask about Penelope and Odysseus saying she's his wife and Calypso just surprise Pikachu face before crying and moving on. Love it, hilarious. However her character is really compelling. She's someone that never had anyone and was left to her punishment of solitude and when she finally has another person around she has to watch as he chooses to leave and she's left all alone again. She spends the time trying to show Oddeysus the place and how it has all they could want or need and show him that he can stay here forever with her. We as the audience know that Oddeysus is a wife guy and wants to get home to her and his son but Calypso doesn't know that and probably doesn't fully get that someone would want to leave this perfect paradise and return to their original home. She spends the next 7 years trying to get him to stay and convince him this place is good, that she's good to stay with but we see how that affects him to the point he's willing to end himself if he can't go home. Then when he's given the opportunity he doesn't hesitate to leave to go home and leave Calypso on this island. I'm sure everyone can already see things from Oddeysus point of view but I'd like to frame it all in Calypso's to see where she's coming from and why she acts this way.

From Calypso's POV she's been stuck in this island alone for 100 years, no friends, no family, no visitors. No one can come or go, this island stays unknown. That includes her, she can't leave the island, if she wanted to I feel she would've at this point but she's been casted away so this is more than likely a punishment for her. She spends her life in this place, talking to herself and the critters on the island, accepting a long time ago that this will be her life forever when all of a sudden she sees it. A person. A real person for the first time in a century. Sure he's beaten, bruised, scared and barely breathing but he's alive and he's here. In Calypso's eyes this must be an answer to her prayers. Sure he's not receptive to her affection but that's fine, he's been through a lot so it's gonna take time to feel comfortable again. Sure he sits on the beach upset but that's fine, she more than likely did the same in her early days here. Sure he wants to go home but this is his home now, he can't leave the island (she's tried) but he'll learn to love it just like she had learn to. Sure he tried to jump off a cliff but who hasn't? She's sure she can help, she's sure her love will be enough for him. The years go by and nothing seems to work but she's not one to just give up like that. She'll get him to see that he loves it here, the island is perfect and with the 2 of them they won't be lonely. Then a god comes and takes him away. She goes to say goodbye to him and ends up letting out all her emotions and feelings out, of not understanding why nothing worked, of why the moments she believed they had weren't enough, of why he can't just love her like she loves him. And he's gone. And she's alone again. Heartbroken and alone.

Calypso has been on this island all her life, alone and isolated. Told from a young age just how much she wasn't wanted and left to spend the rest of eternity on her own. No one to talk to, help her, guide her, teach her anything she should know, the only people who can come and go are the gods and it seems they don't care to visit her. The one person that managed to get here, her paradise, doesn't choose to stay. Her trying her best unintentionally caused her to over step his boundaries and not listen when he spoke and hurt him. She didn't mean to hurt him but she did and because she never had anyone to teach or guid her she doesn't understand that and understand that thoes can drive a person away. It's sad and painful and I love her and I want her to get free and learn to respect boundaries and hear when people talk because she truly does not deserve the hell she's been put in. So it makes me all the more upset that the fandom has decided she's just an evil character and deserves what she's got happening to her

This next part is gonna be ranty but it is a rant so oh well

And TW: I'm gonna talk about the 🍇 ist stuff people are pushing onto her because I'm aware that the book version is different from the Epic version but some of y'all seem to think it's the same thing in Epic and I have issues for that and I will be using the actual word so I'm sorry in advance for anyone that upset.

The way the fandom treats Calypso is honestly disgusting. I've seen people talk about her book counter part and then attribute that one's actions to the Epic version. I've seen people take the singe line of "Soon Into Bed We'll Climb And Spend Our Time" as a way to say it implies that she rapes Oddeysus when it's never expanded upon or brought up again in the songs. I've seen people call her a pick me, selfish, manipulative, self centered, a bitch all for the crime of wanting to love Oddeysus and for him to love her back and not possessing the proper social skills and words to do get that she can't have that. I've seen people straight up say she's just a rapist because of her book counter part. I've seen so many post that are just about Calypso and so many comments talking shit about her, saying they could never make them like her, blaming her for her situation. So many people are so okay with just saying she's bad and no one wants to look at things from her POV. About what living the life she had does to a person, how it affects them, how it stunts their growth as a person, how it causes them to lack certain social skills you and I have, how once you finally meet people again you get clingy because holy shit people are here! You can say that you'd act differently but I guarantee you that if you spent your entire life from young age and into the 100s never interacting with individuals and isolated on an island just for some ramdo wash up on the shores of the beach still alive you'd fucking cling to to him to and do your best to get him to stay because that loneliness will absolutely be devastating again. Remind you, Calypso can't leave. She said it herself "No one can come or go, my island stays unknown", if no one can leave once there that means she's stuck there too. She can get Oddeysus off the island but that would leave her alone again. Alone after finally having someone not herself and not an animal. Who knows when the next washed up sailor will be if at all and the gods clearly don't care enough to go see her. If they care at all. Even in I'm Not Sorry For Loving You she expresses how upset she is. Angry, tired, restless and sad because she doesn't get what she did wrong and we can see things from her perspective but it's like the actions of her book self she can't escape them. And I know, I know that book Calypso is a rapist she literally has this man's kids but y'all are using the one line from Love In Paradise to claim she did the same here. But that one line is never expanded upon or brought up again. Jorge already warned us that there will be implications of rape in a song and we know which one, Hold Em Down, the one with Antinous. In the demon there are specific lyrics there that are "Hold her down while the gate is open. Hold her down while I get a taste. Hold her down while we share her spoils I will not let anything go to waste"

These are actually lyrics for the demon that we are warned about being implications of sexual assault. We were warned and these were intentional. It doesn't stop at the one line, it keeps going and it's brought up. One line out of a song that has a time skip does not equal rape and I would like it if those who have read the book and know of book!Calypso's behavior stop pushing it into Epic!Calypso. I would also like it if everyone stopped viewing her behavior on a surface level of what it appears when there's a mountain of reasons for it. I'm not saying Oddeysus has to know or care, the man's been through a lot and just wants to go home, but the US as the audience can benefit from looking past it all and seeing the reason why. Not just immediately jumping to a manipulative, gaslighty, selfish, entitled bitch just because her actions aren't favorable. I feel like people are either projecting or just don't look past Oddeysus POV to really care to see things from Calypso's

I also feel like there's another reason as reason people don't care to look at things from Calypso's POV and, y'all gonna be mad but I don't care, it's racism and misogyny. I know the knee jerk reaction is "I'm not racist/misogynist", "no one is being racist/misogynist", "you're reading to much into stuff ans seeing things where it isn't", hush please. You can still be either or both and not be aware of it and as a black female presenting person this is unfortunately something I notice. It's not surprising when people jump down the throat of female characters for one reason or another because they did something people don't like. Whether it be them being in the way of a gay ship, them being overly friendly and bubbly and people calling her fake bitch, blaming her for the actions of the male character, getting mad because she's a complex female character that doesn't fit perfectly into one box, I've seen it all before. Y'all did it with Demencia from Villainous until there was a female character to ship her with, y'all did it with Grace I from Infinity Train when Simon went off the deep end and got his ass killed, y'all did it with Mimzy when ahe showed up and stopped Hell's Greatest Dad from just being 2 old guys arguing, y'all are doing it with Calypso because she's not perfectly good and is flawed and is an optical to Oddeysus despite not being a bad person. Every time a female character is shown to be anything that isn't bland and unintrusive y'all hate on her. And when she is bland and unintrusive y'all still hate on her because now she isn't interesting. God forbid it's a black woman or black girl character y'all will loose your minds. My best example for black girl character is April O'Neil. Literally any depiction that doesn't show her as white but especially in the Mutant Mayhem version. There was no shortage of people calling her ugly because she was black and fat and saying she wasn't the true April O'Neil when the original April O'Neil was a biracial woman but because this one is black when there's been depictions of her that have made her white suddenly she's ugly and awful and all these racist slurs. With Black female voice actor it's worse. When MLP was getting it's new reboot after Gen 5 and rumors started going around that Apple Jack could be voiced by a black lady there was no shortage of people claiming that she was ruining a character and that she'd make Apple Jack sound ghetto as if she'd be doing a stereotypical black voice and, ya know, not voice acting which was literally her job. Y'all did the same when that anime with the tanned girl(idk the name I don't watch anime) came out in dubbed and was shown that voice actor for the main character was a black lady and the same shit that happened with Apple Jack happened here. Y'all aren't doing the same song and dance here but it sure is telling that Calypso, who is voiced by a black women, is getting shit and having her book counter part's actions shoved to her while everyone else gets a pass. Especially the other, fair skinned, voice actresses. Y'all may not know it or want to admit it but the way y'all treat Calypso is high key racist and misogynist.

Look, if you don't like Calypso, that's fine, I don't care. Hate all the characters you want, no one is gonna like em all. But for fuck sake I would just like to go down the Calypso tags and not see just a wall of hate for her to the point it's like mining for diamonds to find even one positive post about her. I hope I get to see more positive post and more people showing her love instead of all this hate. If we wanna hate someone, hate Zeus him and Poseidon caused all the problems here. Thank you and have a good whatever time of day it is for you.

[featheredadora]

[acornered]

I've never really self-identifed as butch because my style sensibility leans more toward effeminate gay man/eccentric grandparent but while my girlfriend was visiting, the clasps that held the shoulder strap of her handbag kept breaking (thanks temu), and finally I got fed up and fixed it by

a) wrenching off the old clasps with a pair of plyers and

b) replacing them with the only clasps I had on hand, which were 2 giant carabiners

and yeah, now that I think about it, that is incredibly butch lesbian behavior.

[dollya-robinprotector]

Dress me up, make it tight, I'm your dolly You're my doll, rock'n'roll, feel the glamour in pink Kiss me here, touch me there, hanky panky~

Inspired from This post of @just-dol-headshots and this ask from @hakusins. Don't worry I'm still aiming for your ass Haku-Dean :) References and something under the cut

We all have to agree Bully Robin should have some softer and caring sides. When there's only them two and no one else is around to judge, he can let loose and slip back into that kinda of "Original Robin" we know and I love. I mean, that's what JDOLH made that got me into these swap messes from the beginning jsjkhskjhd you knowww the HUG!!

Reference: Barbie Girl (Aqua) and this cute ecchi Clamp Chobit piece

All in all I'm a pink bietch and Dollya won't be losing her V-card anytime soon that I can promise so hang in there okay mr.Bully.

edit: OMG THIS IS MY 1000TH POST TTOTT)) JKSDJLASKJKDLA

SELF-INDULGENT HERE WE GO

[soupysundae]

🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍

[moth-nocturna]

dumping south park sketches lol

[greensaplinggrace]

i'm sorry but i'm a buffy apologist at heart y'all are wild if you think her reaction as a literal teenager to faith's accidental murder of an innocent was in any way wrong or bad. in what universe.

[jasperthejester]

me: finally accepting theres a good chance im autistic and starting to work up the courage to ask my parents to see if i could get a diagnoses but being scared to

my mom: do you ever think you have adhd? if you want to do a screening for add next time your at the doctors you can

me:

[ganondoodle]

got this reblog on one of my posts were i talked about being anxious about the future of the zelda series after totk and-

i even went back and unblocked them just to check my own post and check twice what they meant exactly- but i still dont know how they got to these conclusions

i never said i 'want a good uwu ganondorf' (bc that would mean hes aligned with hyrule bc thats how goodness works!!!!11!1!!!), i also dont think of any of the zeldas as 'whores' (seriously, where did that come from?? neither me nor the addition of someone agreeing with me said anything like that??? did they think bc the addition called tloz misogynistic means we think zelda is a whore????? huh???)

its also funny how they say they want zelda to stay a simple fairytale rather than have 'people like me' bc .. one point i talked about in the og post was how the evil arab thing VS good white people media likes to do so much is so normalized here that its simply seen as a simple harmless fairytale trope instead of a big underlying issue in general media and the writers might not even realize it (which is worse) bc the most 'generic' appeal is to people who dont think of it as a problem in the first place, because it is so normalized

(huh, i wonder about what kind of person that part was about .. hmmmm)

(ALSO funny they mention princess hilda as nuanced villain ... like ... wow they are so nuanced about purple haired people!!- like guess why we want a nuanced/less badly/less flat written ganondorf and what he, in particular, has not in common with other villains! its not his hair color! .... or was that point supposed to mean .. look we have one female character that is a villain, its not misogynistic! idk honestly)

(and the classic, "you just call it this/dont like it bc its not what you wanted !!!!!!!2!"1!112!!")

also funny how its 'never gonna be progressive enough' like asking for the franchise to maybe put a little more thought and nuance into their white divine right vs evil desert man simulator instead of making it worse is already asking too much

(i dont know what the last point has to do with anything??)

(also yes totk is racist, like most if not all of the franchise and a alot of other media as well, shocker- you can still like it though, i and plenty of other people are still fans of it, we just wish they did a little more with their stuff and maybe not make the racism problem WORSE)

(also yes the hyrule monarchy is also evil :))) )

(and also not so secretly so either :)) )

[irisbaggins]

This isn't going to be as in-depth as my other meta (I am too tired after Uni and thinking about different literary theories), but I've seen some folks point it out and wanted to add my own two cents:

From the way I view Evan's behaviour since the killing of Philtrum, I read it as him becoming defeatist towards his own nature. He truly believes he's a bad person, who doesn't deserve love nor happiness. He chafes against any assertion that he's loved or cherished, and he clashes with anyone attempting to assert that he's valuable and loved just the way he is. The only person who he doesn't outright clash with is Sam, and that is - I believe - only due to the fact he saw and experienced her emotions and feelings, and therefore cannot quite dispute them. With Jammer and K he can, because he doesn't have that insight into their true feelings. He can make assumptions, then, and run with that idea.

Why does this matter, then? Well, I've noticed how Evan pushes back against the three, and how it differs with each person. Because he does clash against all of them, just differently depending on the person. With Sam, he doesn't outright deny her claims, but it's clear he doesn't believe her fully. He just doesn't say it because it makes her sad and, after every kindness she's shown him, he doesn't think she deserves to feel like that. With Jammer, we've seen him either outright challenge him - how he's mentioned to Jammer's teammates and the lack of talking about his inherent magic - and we've seen him doubt and distrust Jammer's overt affection - not believing they're family, despite Jammer's insistence that they are. And with K, Evan has never truly believed himself worthy of love, but he doesn't quite understand that that's the issue K has with him, and therefore thinks K just wants to "change him" to fit their worldview (instead of being that K wants to "fix him" in terms of his self worth etc.).

Evan clashes with all of them, and I argue that it's because he doesn't see himself as worthy of their compassion. I would have to re-watch the first few episodes of the season to be sure, but I have the distinct feeling that Evan's refusal to believe in his friends' compassion started after killing B2, something he did without hesitation and without direct remorse. And I think that's the core issue, here. I believe that's why Evan is so adamant in his position, in his belief of his unworthiness, in his desire for power and control; he truly believes he became what he always feared, and he's both accepted this and is also denying it. He pretends everything's fine, yet he also cannot escape the feeling that he's doomed. He called himself heir to the evil house, something he's always denied. I think that alone is an insight into Evan's mindset; he thinks himself evil, which places him in direct opposition to his friends who he believes to be good.

I talked about K and control, and how they can - in their attempt to pretend - be hurtful in what they say. I argue the same is true with Evan, but instead of being directly self-sabotaging with his speech, he's doing it indirectly. He's placing himself as someone they shouldn't trust, and he himself might not be consciously aware of it. He's self-sabotaging, at least from the way I read his actions, especially in light of K's conversation with Tabby. He doesn't trust that the affection of others is genuine, and therefore will treat it as if it weren't. And he's only gotten worse, I think. Yes, he can throw out affection and "I love yous", but receiving them? He doesn't know how to handle that, and will either just go along with it quietly, or question it directly.

Evan's trapped within a negative feedback loop, and I think this is only heightened with his conflict with the Qohlye, and his conflict with him. Specifically, I'm thinking about the ways in which Evan refuses to actually understand why he was given the book, and why it's a horribly sad thing to happen to him. Not because the Qohlye thinks Evan is only meant for sadness, but because the Qohlye understands and knows that the book will only lead Evan to a darker place in a desperate attempt to keep control. The Qohlye is sad, I think, because he knows Evan will happily walk a path he himself doesn't want just to keep his friends close - something that will, in the end, only lead to great sadness. Just take his near sacrifice when saving K from death in the first season, or killing B2 in this season. Evan is a self-fulfilling prophecy, and the Qohlye sees this, and sees Evan refusing to attempt to understand it. That's the sad part, I think. That's where that grief comes from. It comes from seeing a bright and kind kid destroy themselves because of them believing themselves unworthy of love.

I could go on with this topic, but I think I'll end my rant for now by concluding with this: Evan hasn't acknowledged the demons directly since he discovered they had returned, and I am very worried with what's going to happen in the last two episodes. Especially with the references to "kill your dad" and all. Evan is such an interesting character to analyse, especially since he's such a flawed and complex character. Often, what I've noticed with him, is that it's what he doesn't say that leaves the most impact. And him not acknowledging his own emotions and his own fears regarding his nature is quite telling. Especially as he's positioned himself as a wizard killer. I'll probably write some more meta at a later date regarding him - as well as meta on K, Jammer, and Sam, as I find all of them so incredibly fascinating. But I shall end the post now before I fall asleep typing, because I am dead on my feet. So, if this post makes no sense, really sorry about that! Will probably refine it later when I'm dodging writing about my thesis.

Also, just wanted to add: If anyone has like, any points, disagreements, or just general thoughts about this post and my takes, I'm happy to hear them! I'm always up to hear what others think of my takes, especially if you disagree. It always fascinates me to hear what others think about characters and a story, so please do not hesitate to interact if you have your own two cents!

[charmac]

I hate to defend Rob but seeing Sunny teens on Twitter try to speculate he isn't "speaking up" about voting because he's hiding being a secret Trump supporter is so insanely ridiculous when campaign contributions in the United States is public information:

(Yeah. That's a $100,000.00 donation to a grassroots victory fund, on top of a ton of donations to swing states.)

It's almost like making public political statements on social media is heavily advised against when you're a showrunner/employer to hundreds of people.

[royalarchivist]

[A sad violin song plays over an image of a sad hamster]

Pac: This doesn't have anything to do with me – I wear a blue sweatshirt, you're crazy, this mouse doesn't even have a sweatshirt, this hamster! [Reading chat] Am I a depressed hamster?

[ Transcript continued ↓ ]*

–

Pac: Actually– that's fine! I embrace that idea – of course I'm going to be depressed, are you crazy? [He hits his desk, then starts counting off people on his fingers] Fit is gone, Richarlyson is gone, Ramon is gone, Bagi and Empanada who were always there when we were there are also gone, I haven't seen them! It's just me and Tubbo, and sometimes Philza shows up.

Pac: I lost Chume Labs, I lost the Favela, I lost Murder Mystery, I lost Ilha Chume Labs, it's crazy! Look at how much I've lost, and I've gained nothing! Of course I'm going to be depressed, are you crazy?! How am I supposed to be happy?!

Pac: [Reading chat] "You have us Pac," that's true, thank you. No, that's true, sorry.

* NOTE: Please note that this is an incomplete transcript, as I was primarily relying on Aypierre's translation mod at the time and if I am not confident of the translation, I do not include it. As always, please feel free to add on translations or message me corrections.

[al-luviec]

zane + nya parallels

[eightspringdays]

People who infantilize autistic coded characters are the weakest link in society's chain.

How are you gonna look at this mf

And then tell me he's too uwu to do anything. Open your eyes, expand your brain; he thinks of the MCnasty too. Let him say fuck !!!!

[cashmoneyyysstuff]

cannot stand yn in fics that be doin alot..like yall get what i mean ?? like you just gotta sit there n think "ugh girl you doin tm.."

[hadesknockedupintheunderworld]

The fans: Ugh Sonic was just so preachy. I mean obviously he's supposed to be the good guy, so any uncomfortableness I feel here and any way I feel like Sonic's choices are framed as being why some other people have shitty lives is just bad writing because he is obviously supposed to be right always, but this characterization makes no sense. Isn't he right for the things he did?

Ian Flynn, using Kitsunami to say the (barely even at this point) quiet part even louder: Hey it's almost like ever since the Mr. Tinker event we've been purposely running with the critique of Sonic as being more selfish than he appears. Sonic is upholding a system of Eggman v Sonic that currently benefits him and shuts down talk of how to improve the current system because he likes his own personal enjoyment and he's attached enough to Eggman that he'd rather Eggman pretend to be a good person than be stuck in prison for life. He doesn't even quite practice what he preaches. We are trying to show that the current hero v villain system and Sonic's recklessness currently affects some people poorly and that Sonic isn't a perfect hero.