#julian blackthorn my love

[margareturtle]

Thinking about the Blackthorn Siblings as one does

No but really

Just thinking about the Blackthorn sisters and how Helen is to Dru as Julian is to Tavvy.

Let me explain:

1) Same age difference (about 10 yrs between Julian+Tavvy, about 10 yrs between Helen+Dru)

2) Tavvy is Julian’s baby, just like I think Dru was Helens’. We know Helen was parentified at a young age as well. Dru was the baby of the family for almost 6 yrs till Tavvy was born. Of course for a while Eleanor was still alive, but being the oldest Helen still would’ve stepped up especially as Eleanor was getting sicker in the years before Tavvy was born and she died. (Although now that I’m thinking about it Mama Blackthorn couldn’t have been that sick if she was still able to have a full pregnancy with Tavvy right (?!)) (And who knows what Andrew was doing but not being a super present father and running the institute ig— tho his teen son was able to do both smh)

3) but anyways yes Helen and Dru. Helen was Dru’s go to for stories and comfort when she was little. Oftentimes little Dru wouldn’t be able to keep up when the twins + Jules+Emma went exploring, but she would stay back with Helen.

4) in addition Julian and Helen are both the main (or one of the main for helen’s case) parents in Tavvy + Dru’s lives during the same time in both their lives. Dru and Tavvy were both about 2-7/8 and Helen and Julian were both 12-17/18.

5) Which is what makes Helen’s exile and return and Dru’s reaction to it (though understandable) more tragic. Bc Dru was Helen’s baby, and at one point Helen was Dru’s main person. But now Helen is back, and while being Dru’s older sister/parent was such a big part of Helen’s identity for so long and she remembers it well, Dru’s memories of Helen are now more distant childhood memories :((

This parallels Julian + Tavvy’s relationship a bit as well (though they are not as extreme bc ofc Julian will check in often and come back to stay in LA a lot) but Julian will no longer be Tavvy’s main parent. And in time although being Tavvy’s parent was such a big part of Julian’s identity it will be more distant childhood memories for tavvy :((

6) the parallels!! Like how Dru is said to be the one who looks most like their mother but Dru barely knew her while Helen was the closest to their mom. (We learn most that we do about Eleanor from Helen’s pov) So Helen (+Emma) are the closest to maternal figures that Dru has ever gotten.

Similarly Julian is always compared to looking like Andrew, and he had to kill his own father (most of what we learn about Andrew as a parent is from Julian). But Tavvy doesn’t remember Andrew, and Julian is the best father figure he could have.

7. Finally, the way Julian + Helen switch off in their little siblings lives. Helen was one of Dru’s main parents till she was about 7/8, then Helen is exiled and Julian is Dru’s main parent from 8-13 (close to when Dru is ready to go to the academy). Where as Tavvy is the exact opposite since Julian was his main parent till he was about 7/8 and then Helen is taking over as Tavvy’s main parent from when Tavvy is 8 till presumably when he follows in Dru’s footsteps and goes to the Academy (15ish—till he’s sent back to LA bc of the pandemic lmao)

So Dru + Tavvy had the same parents just 6 yrs apart

The Blackthorn siblings as divided by who their parents were:

Helen + Mark: Eleanor + Andrew (+nerissa when they were babies but don’t rly remember)

Julian: 10 yrs Eleanor + Andrew, 2 yrs Helen + Mark + then himself :(

Livvy + Ty: 1/2 Eleanor + Andrew, 1/2 Helen + Julian

Dru + Tavvy: Helen + Julian

[margareturtle]

Thinking about how prior to the dark war Julian would’ve been the one to help Ty sneak animals into the institute bc then Andrew and/or Helen (+Eleanor before she died) would’ve had to take care of it.

And then them all getting back from Idris and Ty tries to bring in hermit crabs from the beach or a lizard from the desert and Julian knows that it can’t stay in the institute so he finds it to and tells Ty they have to let it go (but Julian intentionally waits a little longer to find it bc it would have taken Andrew or Helen longer, but if Julian wanted to he could’ve found it immediately bc he know’s Ty’s hiding places as the brother who showed Ty where he could hide things so their father and helen (sometimes even mark) couldn’t find them so easily.

thinking about how much Ty hates change & how he was visibly distressed when he thought Julian forgot about the pancakes but he's the one who most desperately wants Mark to take over from Julian. thinking about how Julian's first line in the series is that Ty & Livvy are eating wax and how his hands are covered in wax too. thinking about how Julian thinks of them as his children but they're the siblings closest in age to him, the brother and sister he was probably the closest to growing up

[clockwork-carstairs]

When you’re in an emotionally tortured competition but your opponent is Julian Blackthorn

[weregonnabecoolbeans]

Julian Blackthorn’s constant awareness of his siblings is both so heartwarming and so heartbreaking to read

[tiredandoptimistic]

Two trees in one day because the hyperfixation is strong! Now it's the Carstairs family.

This one was nice and quick compared to the others (pray for me formatting all the Lightwoods tomorrow). Anyways, I am sick of writing cursives rs, why are they in so many names?

Herondale

Fairchild

Blackthorn

Lightwood

[julescarstairs]

I love how Ty is a model student at the Scholomance who helps the teachers plan new courses for other students whilst Dru is getting pulled into the headmaster’s office every other day at the Shadowhunter Academy 😭💗 No one does it quite like the Blackthorns

[wikitpowers]

ik everybody thinks that "his face crumpled. "he hates me," he said. "all i do is love him, but he hates me, he just hates me, i don’t know why." is gonna be ty talking to dru but what if it’s julian????!?

[okayclaryfray]

TSC characters as inaccurate memes I stumbled upon

Simon while dating Clary:

Jace:

Clary and Julian:

Clary telling Simon about kissing her brothers:

Dru about that aunt from England:

Clary around Jocelyn:

Anyone about Sebastian:

Jace:

[garvalhaminho]

btw here is a list of every blackthorn ever mentioned (that i wrote down) either by blood or marriage/name

eva

felix

john

adelaide ‌

annabel‌

abner‌

jerome‌

ezekiel

rupert‌

tatiana

grace ‌

jesse ‌

lucie ‌

andrew ‌

arthur‌

eleanor‌

helen ‌

mark‌

julian‌

livia‌

tiberius‌

drusilla‌

octavian

[fairdale]

sometimes i just want to give jules a very big, very tight hug and tell him that i'm proud of him for keeping it together and not giving up.

he lost his mother when he was little. he lost mark and helen. he had to kill his father at the age of 12. he survived a war. he had to hide his uncle's illness and take care of his younger siblings. he had to pretend that he wasn't in love with emma (had been for years). he had to watch livvy die.

he went through all that and, somehow, miraculously, he remained human.

he kept loving art. he kept showing his love towards his family. he learned to love new friends and to forgive.

yes, he tried to stop feeling. yes, sometimes the situation overwhelmed him. but he tried. he never stopped trying.

and i think that's the one thing i love the most about julian. when he loves, he loves with his whole being, loves knowing that he would do anything for those people, even if it destroyed him. but he doesn't stop doing it, not even if it should scare.

he just... loves.

[d4rkshad0w]

one thing i absolutely adore about TSC is how close of a family the blackthorns and how although Julian is not their father they still see him as one. they love him so much and i find that beautiful especially that note Ty wrote to Annabel about the blackthorns in Lord of Shadows, i just love how they’re all protective of each other

[margareturtle]

Andrew Blackthorn was a pretty shit father

But I gotta give him some credit

For the fact that he had seven children

And didn’t name one of them Jonathan 👏

Rumor has it 1 in every 5 shadowhunters is named Jonathan

Andrew & Eleanor are rly out here beating the odds

Ya know who I know did think about the Roman Empire everday

Andrew Blackthorn

And bro wanted everyone to know it too

Thus his children’s names 😭

[deepdiveintomadness]

You'd think that with SOBH most of the fandom will quit it with the "Julian is gonna be mad at Kit for defiling his beloved baby brother Ty" agenda 🙄

Most of you have a very shallow understanding Julian and it shows. Too many in this fandom love to make a caricature of his character, using him as a source of drama in many fics and fandom contents, when canon!Julian literally sees Kit as part of the family.

[clockwork-carstairs]

The moment where Julian’s holding a sobbing Tavvy and gently calling him “Tavs” is actually the fondest I have ever felt for a fictional character

[steamworksfairy]

(Page 102 of Lady Midnight)

Am I imagining Ty leaning against Kit, his eyes going half-lidded, as Kit rubs his back? Yes, yes, I am.

Am I also also giving myself ✨️emotions✨️ imagining this Ty and Livvy scene, and then one with Ty alone and the world dark and gray, and then one where the world is bright again with Kit sitting opposite where Livvy sat in that first mental image but the world bright again as Ty leans against him? Yup! 😭👍

[dailyjemma]

Why do people hate Julian Blackthorn from The Dark Artifices by Cassandra Clare? Can you tell me the reasons he is a bad character and reasons that he is good?

Janhavi answered:

I think one of the reasons Julian Blackthorn is so hated is because he is not an angsty bad boy like Jace or Will Herondale. He doesn’t have the appeal that these types of characters have to the target demographic. It’s unfortunate, because I actually think Julian is one of the few Cassandra Clare characters that has depth. He’s got flaws that don’t include being brooding and moody. His backstory actually makes you feel sympathy for the character rather than roll your eyes. He can be ruthless and will go to any lengths to protect his family. And that flaw actually makes him pretty great too. He’s a character that seems to care about something other than romance, which is very refreshing. He’s probably the most unique character in the Shadowhunter series.

Maria Lightwood Chase answered:

Unless there is some far-off corner of the fandom, Julian Blackthorn is FaR from being hated. We hate Charles Fairchild, Axel Mortmain, Valentine Morgenstern, and Zara Dearborn.

Julian?

He’s a HERO

At The age of 12, he taught himself how to care for his four younger siblings, the youngest being two because he was to young to properly have a voice in the government

When he was 14, he became parabatai with the girl he was in love with so she would have familiarity and not be shipped off to Alicante when her parents died

He learned how to run the institute so that his family would stay toget her.

He’s AWESOME, and I can think of something that happens, when we have cast or ensemble series. Julian is overshadowed by his siblings. Ty, Livvy and Dru are far more popular than he is. Mark follows after him. It’s not that he is disliked, it’s just that the fandom does not find him as asppealing as say, two 15-year-old twins who love science and are basically in love with the same guy…..

Trust me, When someone in The Shadwohunter Chronicles is Hated. They are Hated. I tis clear exactly WHY and Their perferable method of death..Personally, Zara can be killed by Demons or Downworlders.