#jokey discourse

[kal-theravenquing]

Thinking about Vax'ildan.

Thinking about Vax and hair.

Thinking about a small child running to his mother crying because a bigger kid pushed him into the Gladepools and his hair is all messed up now.

Thinking of him sat in front of the fire as his mother dries and untangles his hair, singing to him in her mother's tongue.

Thinking of him and his sister sitting on stools at the kitchen table waiting impatiently as their mother braids their hair all prettily for the Harvest Close Fair, the pair giggling and kicking their feet as they're asked to "please sit still for just another minute, you two."

Thinking about Vax asking to brush his mother's hair and braid it, so she teaches him how to do it and Vex asks him to braid her hair as well.

When Syldor takes the twins, aged 10, to Syngorn, he forces them to have their hair cut according to Syngorn's bizarre Family Hierarchy Hair Rules;

waist length hair is indicative of political status

hair just above the waist is indicative of being the head of your household

just above the elbow length is indicative of being the household heir

just below the shoulder length is indicative of being respected by your household

hair that's shoulder length exactly is indicative of being from a wealthy household but of having little respect

just below chin length but just above shoulder length is indicative of you coming from a non-wealthy family

hair at chin length or shorter than chin length is indicative that you have been disowned by your family's household

Syldor has waist length silky black hair, which he usually leaves undecorated unless he's hosting or attending a ball

Vax also has silky black hair, Syldor having it cut from just above the elbows up to exactly shoulder length - while Vex has curly brown hair that had also been just above the elbows before it was also forcibly cut to shoulder length exactly

Vax would continue to help his sister with her hair, brushing it and braiding it for her

Whilst Vex slowly earned a modicum of respect through her hard work at school, her hair allowed to grow longer, Vax never gained any respect as he flunked his classes and started to act out, so he had to keep his hair shoulder length

By the age of 16, Vex had her hair back to just above her elbows to show that she's now the household heir - while Vax has rebelled and cut his hair into a choppy pixie cut in an attempt to piss off Syldor

He's forced to wear a wig to social events and he's banned from using sharp objects, but its worth it to him

When the twins run away from Syngorn and end up living in the woods when Byroden is gone, Vex has Vax cut her hair to match his as a symbol of her love for him and Vax cries while doing so because his sister's hair is so important to her

from then onwards, Vax comes to consider both of their hair as incredibly sacred to him, taking as good of care as he can of both of their hair even while living out in the wilderness

they both grow their hair out to be waist length, almost as if to spite Syldor and Syngorn

Vax braids Vex's hair in a way that protects and maintains her curls, while he likes to decorate his hair with small braids with colourful beads through them

When they join Vox Machina, Vax accidentally becomes the resident hairstylist as well as the resident cook - Scanlan, Pike and Keyleth all go to him for hair cuts, hair styling & help with shaving properly

Percy wouldn't start asking for his help too until after they've dealt with the Briarwoods and freed Cassandra & Whitestone

Cassandra also goes to Vax for help with her hair, having him cut it to her shoulders for her after years of Delilah not letting her style it how she wants to

when Grog gets the belt and grows a beard, Vax helps him to style and maintain it

Vax and Gilmore do each other's hair, teaching each other different styles and hair care tips as they gossip - just two boyfriends who have "caring for the other's hair" as a love language, so cute!

Vax and Allura, who are best friends with messy feelings in my fanon, love to gossip over tea and take turns braiding each others hair as they do

and I can so see Vax starting a hairdressing salon in the back of the 2nd floor of Gil's shop

just...Vax'ildan and hair 😭

(I will never forgive TLOVM for the fuckass ugly hair they gave Vax, let him have pretty hair!!!)

[the-meme-monarch]

yeah that ship is fine it's whatever (<- hates it badly but doesn't have any reason to and doesn't want to seem like an ass over it)

[vonlipvig]

saw a tiktok of a guy saying that he kinda got annoyed when he bought something online and they made him scroll all the way down to select 'united states of america', and then all of the comments agreeing, and it pissed me off so much. soooo much. everyday i pray for the downfall of the united states of america.

[idontwanttospoiltheparty]

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[vrsenus]

Athena our fav problematic EAH acc, making a jokey joke that made everyone in this fandom crawl outta their cave🙏🏽

[starlitsequins]

caitvi had sex and it still wasnt as gay as whatever tf was going on with jayce and viktor

[werewolf-cuddles]

Damn, some of y'all just cannot let shit go, huh?

[avoidantcreachure]

saw a reply on a post by an avpd blog that said something like “those people aren’t real good friends!! you should find people who-“ and i was like i’m gonna cut you off right there, not being able to do that is like my central character aspect… that’s the name of the disorder

[menlove]

like actually yes I am pretty pissed off about this whole thing. nowhere not once in my post did I mention anything about feminine women being the issue. not once. literally all I said was, essentially, "feminine men and masculine women are not accepted and adored by society" that's it. that's the post. and yet everyone and their brother is crawling out like weevils to go off in the tags about how as a feminine woman they feel attacked

listen very very closely. a post supporting one group is not automatically attacking the other group. if you feel left out, make your own positivity post. that's great. I will even reblog that post from you. but if a post says "I really love cats" you getting on there like "what did dogs ever do to you? dogs aren't the problem why do you hate dogs so much? I wish everyone could like dogs or cats and shut the fuck up about hating dogs" is doing literally nothing but annoying op

[ciderjacks]

“Aw man this drawing I spend hours on only got 11 likes, and only 1 rb! This sucks I’m so discouraged” or “wow, 11 whole people liked my work, and one person liked it so much they wanted to share it!” Which way online artist

[twipsai]

every time ppl talk about idw's writing making Sonic kinder i wanna just throw all the moments where hes a piece of shit out there in the wild but. no. i shant

[mr-ribbit]

something fascinating to me about egg discourse is how often tme people Also joke about or question their friends potential to be trans, and it's literally never talked about like this.

my cis and tme nb friends routinely joke about celebrities or characters that have big "nonbinary energy" or who otherwise exhibit behavior we would associate with ourselves. i have tme friends and acquaintances who have approached me or my wife and straightforwardly said "something seems trans about you, have I asked for your pronouns recently?"

similar friends have even talked about other still-cis friends in our circle this way, or joked about "when are you going to transition like the rest of us?" or "yeah cis people are a minority in this group, just give it time" or "no wonder you have queer friends with how comfortable with being gnc you are" or etc etc examples like that

even the actual examples of people in my life that I can think of as being the most "invasive" or presumptive about gender have been tme people:

it was my cishet friends who outed me and my wife as trans to everyone at their wedding, including their boomer parents and hundreds of strangers, and called it "the most queer wedding party ever"

it was my tme nb friend who kept saying they could "always tell" her transfem cousin was trans before she came out, and then proceeded to randomly give us extremely personal details about her bottom surgery

it was my transmasc friend who refused to call me and my wife anything other than "little enby beans" after we met and introduced us with our full genders+sexuality labels to every single person one by one at a party

it was my transmasc nb friend who kept insisting my wife could "still be nonbinary" when she was first considering identifying as a trans woman instead, and it was THAT idea that actually slowed her down from making changes to her life that she wanted

it was my cis friends who approached me arm and arm and cornered my outside of a bathroom at a party right after I took a piss to suddenly ask me what my pronouns were because they "heard something" at the party

like, transfems deserve robust support against this trash so a lot of our defensive discourse has ofc been about how it IS okay for transfems to talk about eggs and be jokey about it and non-invasively approach others about being trans

but i swear to god none of these weird people have even stopped to make their discourse ABOUT anyone BUT transfems. it's so clearly targeted!!

no one has EVER approached *me* as a tme nb person and suggested i was pressuring gnc people with my egg jokes. never. nothing even remotely similar. i joke about other people being trans all the time and no one has ever treated me the way you all are treating transfems over this issue.

important note: my examples are all things I recall as being invasive and awkward, and I'm sharing them to make a point about how often rude behavior comes from the same tme people pointing fingers over this. but I still don't think any of them are worth the crucifixion people are treating transfem egg discourse with.

even when my friends were weird to me in the above examples, my reaction was either to confront them about it as friends who I trust to be able to communicate with, or to cut those individuals off after they proved not worth a relationship in the long run. at no time did I desire to make a call-out post or spread rumors about them or publicly declare all of their gender as a screeching menace to society.

my point here is that even when I do think about moments where others crossed a line, acting like this is a "issue trans women have" is blatantly transmisogynistic garbage that only exists to serve the woman-hating machine at the heart of our society. fucking cut it out

[imjunebitch]

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NAME: Juniper/June for short

AGE: 18 but like. recently eighteen, kinda.

PRONOUNS: she/it. (btw it/it's pronouns aren't dehumanizing but u refusing to use ppls pronouns is 💚)

GENDER: girl. trans. puppy. butch.

SEXUALITY: idk. idk, please don't do this to me man

JUST DO YOUR BEST: fine. definitely acespec. probably demi. definitely not aro. i like all genders, but i have a preference for men and mascs. just. queer I guess. i tell straight people that im bisexual.

MARITAL STATUS: married as fuuuck ilu @aliasismyalias and @damarshi

HEIGHT: 6'5. yes, im serious.

RELIGIOUS AFFILIATIONS: insular catholic/celtic pagan/self described animist

FAVORITE ANIMAL: clowns

THAT'S NOT AN ANIMAL: and I'm not really married it's just cute to say. leave me alone

OKAY CHARACTER PROFILE ASS INTRO DONE: thank fucking god

hi im june!!! I'm a trans girl who loves bad music and roller skating and soda and writing! I didn't set out to discourse, it just kinda happened unfortunately.

WHAT ARE YOUR TAKES: darn it, we're back to this format

JUST FOR A LITTLE: fine. tme/tma is bullshit. transandrophobia is real. transmisogyny is real. intersexism is real. exorsexism is real. all of it deserves equal attention and exposure. any identity not intrinsically founded on harming other people deserves tolerance at the very least, whether or not you understand it. we're all fags and they hate us all. you're entitled to your opinion but im entitled to mad at you. radfem ideology is poison. i love men and mascs even if some of them suck and you won't convince me to stop, assholes. call me a pick-me all you fucking want. stop "reclaiming the r-slur" u can't say that unless u have a mental disability. and as someone who does I don't see why u would want to.

there hopefully that clears some things up!!!

i want us to be friends and have a good time and chill! enjoy my blog, please! also i want u to see this, my friend @moon-grub made it, it's her OC, June Fallout, who I named myself after. one of the best gifts I've ever gotten, I swear.

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#shitpost, my incoherent, often jokey posts. im kinda funny imo u can see if u agree

#queer discourse is my...uh... you'll never believe this it's my queer discourse

#june yells is like june chats but it's the angry version. lots of ranting abt and directed to exclusionists. and abt transandrophobia in the queer community.

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[schizodepressive]

the demiromantic specification is a representation of asexualfication of true aromantic tendencies (im only half joking im gonna hold your hand (maybe.) when i say this bc this is real and true to my spirit)

people who only engage in casual sex and hookup culture for WHATEVER reason. { literally none of your business btw to ask them why that is. okay? } THAT only formed DEEP emotional bonds with people after forming a regular situationship/fwb situation and the consistent familiarity after sharing their body with someone NO MATTER HOW. okay? are literally the same as people who are demisexual. people who dont catch feelings for anyone for any reason only until FUCKKK i had too many good times sharing their bed an got too comfortable and started bearing my heart and soul to them in my post orgasmic haze and warriors bond with them FUCK fuck fuckkkkkkkk.. are literally just some type of arospec. IDC how they personally identify. idgaf how YOU personally identify cuz that has nothing to do with it. idgaf about who their bedmate is as long as it'a consensual I DONTTT GAF.

STOP toxic alloromantics from defining classic aro tales as old as timeee

POST SIGNED BY A TRUE TOXIC AROACESPEC TUMBLRINA WITH A DISORDERRRR PATRIOT 🫡💟✅

the fact that that demiromantic doesn't mean the EXACT INVERSE of demisexual will always make me insane. btw. this is how u know that the TRUE villains of the ace discourse lies soley with the toxic alloromantic asexuals. ///: it's your closest allies 😔✊🏽 that are your biggest haters sometimes /:

[jessbakescakes]

7, 8, 13 😈🔪 choose violence!! *elmo in flames*

choose violence ask game

7. what character did you begin to hate not because of canon but because of how the fandom acts about them?

Amy.

Hear me out.

There's a lot about Amy I like! There's also a lot about Amy that I don't like. And my problem is, I see discourse all the time about how hating Amy Gardner is anti feminist, etc etc, and I know a lot of the time those posts are jokey jokes. But sometimes, in my history of being in this fandom, I've seen people take it in the same way I see Swifties™ take criticism of Taylor Swift. Like, it'll be a lukewarm take of "I wish Taylor Swift wasn't a billionaire, actually" and then there's 10 Swifties™ in their mentions telling them to take a long walk off a short cliff or asking them why they're a misogynist and why they hate women. Like, the girlbossification of putting your partner's phone in stew, no matter how correct your political stance may be, just makes me roll my eyes. In the Covid Times I'd get some wild anon messages about my takes on Amy Gardner, which again, were lukewarm at best. I just deleted them because I was done talking about it lol.

And here's the thing: That doesn't stop anyone from being able to like Amy Gardner, a flawed character, as they all are. I think that sometimes people equate the fact that she is a "feminist written by a man" with "we cannot critique her actions because Aaron Sorkin sucks at writing feminism and her character and her actions are so deeply intertwined that they are beyond judgment". I just think it's interesting when people choose to divorce the actions of a character from the character and attribute them to the writer, and when they pin the actions on the character as a core tenet of who that character is.

8. common fandom opinion that everyone is wrong about

I don't think Josh and Donna's "divorce era" was caused by one person in particular's actions. It was a culmination of things left unsaid for years, on both sides, and both of their unwillingness or inability to address things with each other in an honest way.

13. worst blorboification

This is kind of a tough one, honestly. I feel like blorboification is so subjective and we ALL do it. No one is safe from blorboification! I went back and forth about this one all morning. I keep trying to type out my thoughts, and then I'll delete them, and then I'll write some more thoughts, and delete them... I think it's gotta be CJ.

I don't think it's out of malice, but rather a desire to protect her from the general ick of some takes. In my eyes, there's three camps of TWW fans: there's the casual viewers who stumble across internet content and might engage with it but don't necessarily seek out community. There's the reddit or Facebook fans who have some... questionable takes but aren't involved in fandom as you and I know it. Then there's the Tumblr or Twitter folks who live, eat, and breathe this show, ship characters, know every last detail, and discuss it in depth. And I think the tension between camps 2 and 3 is where I have a lot of issue. Some people in camp 3 really hate some of the icky takes from camp 2, and as a result, they overcorrect and back EVERYTHING CJ does, even if it's questionable. CJ is a privileged white woman, a Democrat, who worked in Hollywood prior to politics. She made SOOOOO much money. Her perspectives are going to be 1) of their time and 2) informed by her experience. And that doesn't make her a bad person, it just... makes her flawed and gives her a lack of personal knowledge in some areas. She will have bad takes about things, just like any of the other characters (also largely white, privileged Democrats).

We all love our blorbos, so this isn't @ anyone specific. It's a universal truth to defend your blorbo. But with CJ in particular, I see a pushback from the more vocal people in camp 3 when there's a critique of a scene CJ was in. I think people rightfully defend her from weird opinions, but at the same time they sort of... baby her or excuse mistakes she makes in canon as a way to protect her. I think there's a subset of younger fans in particular (I am in my mid 30s) who do the same thing as I said above with Amy -- they feel like they can't rightfully love a flawed character, so they explain away the flaws or lean hard into them and justify them, rather than just being like "Yeah that wasn't a great call she made there/wasn't the right thing to do there" and move on.