#jkkers

[akookminsupporter]

Just for fun… If you could be a fly on the wall for just one jikook moment, so that you’d get the full picture of what was going on, what would that moment be?

hickeygate. It's the first one that came to my mind ajajajajaj

[last-blue-hours]

I guess I have to formally announce that I’m jungkook biased for all the tkkers camping in my anon.

[poisonousjk]

This is why I end up responding to them sarcastically on just full on makings fun because I find a lot of their discourse to be disingenuous and to come from a place of bad faith

[taehyungfirst]

Why do you always claim that people who are saying sth that you don't like are shippers??

My bias is tae, i don't ship any real life people.

Its still possible for me think both, the article and the pic isnt good and also think one thing is worse than the other. i think taehyung Posting this picture wasnt good (of course he doesnt deserve the hate he gets) and fans should be able to voice their opinion.

The artictle is stupid and promots toxic stereotypes, it a stupid article from a company which also should be called out.

but looking at the current situation, one topic is more urgent.

You accept asks, maybe try to discussing them and don't just dismiss every opinion you don't like as shipper.

Taehyung is not your bias anon why do you guys think I was born yesterday? 😭

I didn’t make one post about that article, I replied to TWO (2) asks and you came on here saying that the article was bothering me more than the picture, when I’ve been discussing about the picture, for your information, for 4 days straight now. You clearly are bothered by the fact that I think that article was bullshit and it’s not my fault you’ve been spoon fed company agendas, take that out with blogs who may believe you, I’m the wrong one 😴

And I will repeat it, bringing up that picture because you don’t know how to cope with the whole fandom calling your fantasies weird is insensitive and embarrassing, not the activist act you think it is.

[jiminsass-istant]

When the jikook travel show comes out, ALL OF YOUS promise me this-

1. No discussion about what taekookers said

2. No discussion about army downplaying their bond. They do that anyway because they secretly wish it was their favourite instead.

3. No screenshots , linking, quoting or sharing from anti accounts.

4. POST A LOT OF JIKOOK moments from the show. Even when an anti writes or quotes, make a SEPARATE post about jikook moments. Ignore them like you are physically incapable of reading what they say.

5. Don't give even 1% attention to antis. REMEMBER they thrive on attention.

6. Everyone MUST follow report pages and quietly report antis without discussing it with fellow jkkers. Don't ruin your mood and don't ruin other's moods.

7. My TL should be full of jikook , not quotes from antis.

Y'ALL GOT IT?

Be matured about this !!

[stormblessed95]

need them to say it's not jk, announce a jikook collab, or a jk solo song NOW before jkkers make me actually go insane 😭😭

https://x.com/koomiologist/status/1838588617616429152

The fact that all anything that has happened so far is some vague hints and connections in AYS without a Collab announcement or anything. I agree, give us something or confirm it isn't him because it is just seeming more and more gay the more silent everyone is about it 😂😂😂

Because if we can't pass it off as a Collab hint, wtf else am I supposed to take from this?! 😂😂

[jeonscatalyst]

hi!

what are your thoughts on episode three (especially the taekook spraying jimin with water part)?

there's been some discussion, and a lot of it imo has veered into deranged micro analyzing and projecting that has resulted in villainizing taekook (more so jk....) and infantilizing jimin.

it's not just jimin biased jkkers or obsessed pjms, i've seen jk biased jkkers (one in particular that has been weird towards jimin and his work so yeah... 😃) saying how upset they are with jk's "outrageous behavior".

and then ofc there's a blogger that believes they are "spiritually linked" to jimin and are now a mission to call out taekook's "bullying and absue" of jimin (they've especially been blaming jk....) and are very much giving a white savior vibe.

SIGH!!!!

Anon, you know I watched that episode with the biggest smile on my face as there wasn’t a single thing I found to complain about so imagine my suprise when I checked to see what good things people were saying and saw some people complaining about the fact that Taekook sprayed Jimin with water. My mouth was literally open so much I swear a fly got in.

One thing I have realized is that people just perceive things so differently and most times it isn’t even about the people they are watching but about themselves. How on earth could anyone watch that part and have anything bad to say about it? Atp I’m beginning to think we watched different shows.

I didn’t see anyone being bullied or maltreated. I saw Jimin not being in the mood to get into the pool probably because he felt queasy or was just tired and then a hyperactive Jungkook who just wanted Jimin to play with him. Jungkook was the first one who mentioned that he was going for a swim and then Tae said he was going to join but Jimin didn’t seem like he wanted to. Jungkook changed into his swimming trunks and while Tae was changing, Jungkook brought out the water gun and sprayed Jimin with it while Jimin was just laying there and then he ran and sprayed some on Tae too and then came back, opened Jimin’s legs and sprayed some on his “front” and and then went and sprayed some on his ass. This was so endearing to me because it showed that Jungkook either really wanted to get Jimin to play with him so he kept spraying him with water so Jimin would wake up and chase him, or realize that he was already so wet and choose to get into the pool too or he wanted to make Jimin feel better or more jovial. Tae was right there, all changed and ready to get into the pool and play with Jk but Jk seemed more interested in spraying Jimin with water. Even while in the pool he kept doing it and i’m sure he only gave up at some point because he saw that Jimin had just accepted his fate and wasn’t going to wake up to chase him. How could anyone look at that clip and see anything bad? Tae too was being an total cutie joining Jungkook to spray water at Jimin. If that doesn’t show anyone how much taekook love Jimin then nothing will because they could have easily not paid him any mind and gone about their swimming but they both seemed more interested in playing around with him than just going to splash around in the pool by themselves because even in the pool, they both still tried spraying him with water possibly to get him to come join them after he realized that he was all wet.

Like you said anon, that is alot of micro analyzing and projecting. Jimin laughed about it the whole time and I can bet that he didn’t even find it the least bit annoying.

Sometimes people don’t realize that these are boys. Jungkook is not some villain because he sprayed water on Jimin and neither is Tae. Jimin isn’t some damsel in distress that needs saving. If Jungkook had just left Jimin there he would have been accused of ignoring Jimin but even when he was clearly trying to get Jimin to play with him, he still got shit for it. You cannot blame Jungkook for Jimin not wanting to swim. You cannot blame Jungkook for Jimin not wanting to eat. Jungkook is the one who brought the water to Jimin when Jimin didn’t want to go the water, Jungkook is the one who asked where Jimin was when Jimin wasted alot of time outside while they were at the restaurant so the last thing Jungkook wants is for Jimin to be excluded.

People complaining about Jk’s “outrageous behaviour” probably want Jk to put Jimin on his back and keep him there like a baby. They probably wanted Jk to carry Jimin in his arms and put him in bed or wanted Jk to not have any fun at all and just look miserable because Jimin didn’t want to get into the pool. There are tons of moments of Jk literally treating Jimin like an egg, babying and taking very good care of him but these people cherry pick moments where they feel like Jk didn’t care enough. I haven’t seen anyone villainizing Jimin for laughing his ass off when Jungkook fell into water from the Kayak in NY. I haven’t seen anyone villainizing Jimin for laughing his head off when Jk slipped and fell in sapporro and I haven’t seen anyone coming at Jimin for choosing to ride with Tae while Jk rode alone but if that was Jungkook people would have bitten his head off. I really hope people would be kinder to Jk because this is sad.

[goldenhickeysandramen]

My Aces 💛💜

Jimin had to contend with his label's lack of foresight and interest in amplifying his work's success, along with the incompetence and hostility from his distribution company.

Jungkook faced criticism and scrutiny of his work and even his morals from parts of his own fandom (including some Jkkers 😞), who even went so far as to boycott him, which I found rather disappointing.

Nevertheless, 🐰🐥 are the two most successful members in terms of music sales and chart performance in Chapter 2. Their fans are organized and dedicated, which counts for a lot. But it's their talent that truly drives their achievements.

All seven members are incredibly talented, of course 😌, with some being genuine geniuses 👏.

But in my opinion, Jimin and Jungkook possess something beyond artistic talent. They are beautiful inside and out, exuding a special aura that appeals to many people 😍.

To me, they are ACES.

No matter how many storms they weather, and no matter how many toxics, boycotts, or commercial interests stand in their way, their fans, talent, and mindset will always prevail.

And they have each other.

It's always been that way.😭💛💜

[just-orbiting-you]

I actually agree quite a bit with the other anon regarding TH/JK hyung/dongsaeng relationship. You say they don't have that stereotypical relationship, but I think that's more because JK is more emotionally mature that TH, which I think is also part of the reason they grew distant. I think TH does want that kind of relationship with JK, but he oversteps JK's boundaries into an almost coddling/condescending territory (think him squeezing JK's cheeks in that one twt video after BB #1 or him making this almost grossly cutesy caption for the recent photos) which I think pushes JK away. I think JK has always been kind sensitive to boundaries, but I think as he's gotten older, he's gotten even more strict about setting boundaries (which includes with fans based on stuff he said during his livestreams).

I think TH's personality naturally does not always respect boundaries, but with JK, I think he can push it further because of him being the hyung, so he does. But as we know, JK doesn't want to be "cute", he wants to be acknowledged as having matured and I think sometimes the way TH treats him disrespects that, him probably feeling more mature than TH probably exacerbates that feeling too (plus being in a group without a strict age hierarchy that never forced him into a maknae role). I don't know about posting, but a lot of the babying or disrespecting boundaries stuff TH does to JK, he would never be allowed to do towards the older members. They give him grace because they obviously love him, but there are limits.

I do think TH feels some jealousy towards jikook, but its not about fame , attention, or fan engagement, but about their genuine closeness and feeling left out. I don't think TH feels close to hyung line much beyond them being like older brothers (compare to like JM who gets along with all of them and has JH especially close, or JK who also get along with most of them, but also is very close to jin). Over the years, the maknae line dynamic shifted a ton, with TH ending up kind of the outsider, and with JK specifically pulling away from him (IMO for the reasons I mentioned above). Now JM and JK enlisted together and have a travel show coming out, and I do think he probably feels pretty left out. To me, if he did post those photos for a negative reason, it wasn't about shippers or attention, but feeling left out and maybe a little petty. He probably also feels a little defensive of his relationship with JK, not so much to fans, but even internally. Weirdly, although they hung out more in 2023, I don't know if I can tell they actually bonded or got closer? Like JK leaving the movie premier to go live on his own or them going on trips, but with other people and to do specific activities. I understand why jkkers think they hung out more because JM was busy, because tbh, that's kind of the way it looks. And I mean that outside of any shipping discourse, I think JK's preferred person to hand with in bts is JM most of the time (base don the things he says and how much time we hear about them spending together behind the scenes). Maybe we'll see some strongly renewed bond between TH and JK after military service, but I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't. And I wouldn't be surprised if TH felt a little insecure about that, like he wanted or tried to reconnect with JK and I'm sure they had fun, but it didn't go any deeper. I'm not saying they don't care about each other, but I do think their personalities kind of inhibit the sort of closeness some of the other members have.

i'm being so real when i say anon you hit it right on the nose. i've been trying to form my own thoughts on this and i really love hearing other opinions on tae in relation to jikook.

JK is more emotionally mature that TH, which I think is also part of the reason they grew distant. I think TH does want that kind of relationship with JK, but he oversteps JK's boundaries into an almost coddling/condescending territory (think him squeezing JK's cheeks in that one twt video after BB #1 or him making this almost grossly cutesy caption for the recent photos) which I think pushes JK away.

this perfectly encapsulates how i feel about tae in that he always takes it a step too far and doesn't have the awareness to understand why that is. i think you clarified a point from the first anon about if tae were to post disrespecting boundaries of other members, it wouldn't go over well. it just doesn't sit well that tae gets a hyung card pass to kind of post about jungkook in the way he does. of course its kinda harmless and i don't think jungkook will do anything about it, but to me its clear he doesn't feed into the relationship like tae does.

my mind goes straight to the conversation they had in the first in the soop (where jimin had to go fetch jk for tae), and jungkook spoke about how him and tae drifted apart. but also that tae pushed for jungkook to drop honorfics and jungkook was very strict in that he does not want to. tae is always looking to push the envelope further.

also i think its funny that tae posts like he does about jungkook, but jungkook doesn't even have instagram anymore to actually interact with the posts. i have no clue if tae lets jungkook vet the posts before he posts them. from what we can understand, it is tae crafting the narrative around current t@ekook, not jungkook. and that enables tae's power over jungkook's wishes even further.

I do think TH feels some jealousy towards jikook, but its not about fame , attention, or fan engagement, but about their genuine closeness and feeling left out.

i've sensed this for a long time and it goes back to old 2019 lives where tae asks jimin to join him, but jimin says he's with jungkook so he can't. it just always feels like he wants in on jimin and jungkook, separately and together, but often is fresh out of luck. i think the telltale sign that tae and jungkook's relationship did not go any deeper last year was 1. jungkook never talked about him and 2. it was always with a group of friends.

plus from other asks too and what you said, i don't think tae has strong relationships with the hyung line, expect for hobi (but even hobi seems closer to jikook). so his only tie to bts is clinging to this newfound relationship he is trying to build with jungkook by pushing for him to join his friend group, and broadcasting it to the whole world.

thank you for putting so much attention into this ask anon, because the emotional difference between tae and jk really wasn't illuminated for me until now. jungkook i think has progressed past tae's immaturity, making him a better match for someone like jimin anyway.

[not-goldy]

https://www.tumblr.com/not-goldy/748360102451511296/did-jungkook-really-say-such-awful-things-about?source=share

like when vminkook were live and sitting on bed then jm said this is my bare face and jungkook straight up be like "ugly right?" Damn that's some real love i sense there. Making fun of someone's looks (who's been insecure about his looks as an idol Cause before that everyone has praised him for his looks, before joining BH) for yrs. And then jungkook is the standard of love for jkkrs.

Too many anachronisms, let's fix it

1. Jungkook IS the standard for love for jkkrs

IS= present tense 😬

2. When vminkook WERE live.... then JM SAID

WERE LIVE= past tense

JM SAID= simple past tense.

You can't conflate your past and present tense it makes you sound dubious and malicious.

A fair and an accurate statement would be,

So Jungkook WAS the standard of love for Jkkers when he was out there calling JM ugly?

That question I can answer and will answer differently from the question of whether Jungkook IS the standard of love for Jkkrs.

If you want to say Jungkook IS the standard of love then you would have to look to the present to see what he is doing in the present that communicates love or not and right now he is in Military Service standing in the fire next to Jimin- that to me is the epitome of love.

Know what else is/was an epitome of love?

Buying JM presents on his birthday when he wasn't doing that for any of the members

Admiting his faults, crying and apologizing to Jimin for not listening to JMs advice

Carrying JMs luggage when they traveled and taking charge of it when it got missing

Offering him a seat

Protecting his seat

Picking him up when he fell

Kissing his ear to comfort him when he cried in front t of millions

Don't cry Jimin

Being his number one fan

Playing his songs and promoting it to his fans

Cooking for him

Keeping him company through his loneliness

Making him laugh

Listening to him pour his heart out

Deliberately throwing a competition so JM will win

Offering him his jacket when he is cold

Whispering I love you to him as he sleeps

Traveling to Tokyo twice with him and for him

Risking it for him or showing signs he would risk it all for him

Holding his hands

Being emotionally open and vulnerable with Jimin

Filming editing and producing GCFs for him

Making him laugh

Making him happy

Easing his troubles

Helping him train

Showing concern for him

Complimenting him

Affirming him

Telling him he is beautiful pretty and sexy

Making him feel desired and wanted- literally says this on camera too

Showing immense admiration and respect for Jimin's artistry and being supportive of everything he does

Teleporting next to him

I can go on and on

So yes, we are guilty as charged.

Jungkook IS our standard of love

Will take him over you any day💀

[mrs-monaghan]

The pieces of the jigsaw just came together, like i always had my suspicions “why dont jikook do a live together?” Like even non-jkkers everyone can see its the most in demand subunit live, everyone wants it, so whys it not happened?! I genuinely always thought it was because they wouldn’t be able to contain themselves then i was like “nahh they’re professionals and have been doing this for yearsss”

But boy was I proven wrong! 2 minutes is all it took! This is so class honestly, 2 minutes and there’s squeezing of tiddies, speechlessness, spanking, “i love yous” glistening eyes, and raw sexual tension..

[akookminsupporter]

As someone who's been in this fandom for a long time, I 100% agree that majority of tkkers are into the fetishization fantasy. They find tae and jk attractive, so the two of them together are twice as attractive (and wards off any female partners that might feed jealousy, see them writing off j3nnie for example). Its not unusual even to look at tkker accounts and find that they are actually homophobic/transphobic/conservative outside of shipping tk. They'll call jm homophobic slurs for example when he acts in a way they don't like or I saw a horrid tweet today about a tkker hoping jm gets outed or SA'ed in the military. In my experience, just comparing jkkers vs. tkkers, jkkers tend to have waaaaaay more actual fans from the lgbt community, tkkers have a lot less (and then you have ones who pretend to be once they get called out for fetishization). Its also kind of obvious in the way they talk about lgbt relationships/closeting/etc., its just very un-nuanced and like they watched brokeback mountain once. They've created this torture-porn fantastical closeted gay romance that doesn't really make sense a lot of the time (closeting a gay relationship with another gay relationship?) and usually takes autonomy away from the two people involved and rewrites their specific characters (refusing to acknowledge jk and tae's "I live how I want" attitudes) and waters them down to just closeted gay men to fit their narrative. Jk gets a lot of the hate for not living up to their boyfriend ideals for a relationship he's not in, but I also feel so bad for tae, who is genuinely courageous in his attitude towards calling fans out who overstep and then having a somewhat public relationship despite the pushback it gets in kpop. He's a bad bitch, willing to go against the grain and its completely lost on them because it doesn't fit the victim narrative.

I do think there are also unfortunately some very very young tkkers who simply fell into the tk-lives trap and believed the delusions like any cult.

Anon, this is the most detailed and accurate explanation and description of what a tkkr is. Thank you, I could never have put it better myself.

[stupendousfoxthing]

“ I get why they want to try to destroy what we've got because that might be the only option. But this is something that is absolutely pointless to argue about. You're not going to win an argument about this and then magically get what you want. The truth is going to be whatever it is going to be at the end of the day. I'm chill with that. They (that anon especially) are not.”

I really agree with what you said there because I’ve always gotten the impression that they think they can present evidence and argue Taekook out of existence or make tkkers go away and that would make Taekook stop being in each other’s lives idk it’s not logical but that’s the way it seems sometimes. I remember when armys used to say tkkers were the reason Taekook weren’t friends anymore and jkkers have taken the opposite position so they think Tae and Jk spent solo era together to appease tkkers.

I see this not just in the neighbors, but in all Taekook antis. I've had solos on Twitter recently literally begging me to give up on "shipping" Taekook. Like, I don't know what to tell them but I'm not trying to manifest anything here. I have no control over them. I'm just an observer, and I can't just pretend I don't see what I do. You can suspend every Taekooker on all of social media and it won't change anything about them or their relationship to each other. We could all be forced into a vow of silence right now and nothing will change for them. Nothing will come from arguing about it. So those people are still going to be mad, because it's not actually us they're mad at. It's Tae and Jungkook and their continued deep involvement in each other's lives, their obvious love and care for each other whatever kind of love it is, and that they choose each other. That's what pisses these people off and we don't let them forget about it when we talk about it and celebrate it. But it deserves to be celebrated. That's why I don't care what antis have to say about anything.

[poisonousjk]

You all really don’t understand how tumblr works I thought it was a joke but it’s actually true. I want Schnauzerlover and all of the others to please go create your own blogs and feel free to voice your opinions to your heart’s content that’s what I’m doing

[taehyungfirst]

https://www.tumblr.com/taehyungfirst/760146953262776320/httpsxcomonlyfthvstatus1829072984507584776s?source=share

How do we know that he met wooga? Wasn't he wearing different clothes? Why would they hide it as a workout if he went golfing with his friends?

Also, anon go hide in your little jikook rat hole. Nothing tae does is gonna affect your ship if it's actually real you boneheads

I don’t even know, I haven’t watched the episode yet but why would anyone be bothered by Tae meeting wooga to golf? And how is it a gotcha moment? That’s such a non issue 😭

[solarwynd]

"between the type of sexualizing posts I’ve seen about Jimin from jkkrs and the standard tkkr fare my patience for it has been depleted"

Thank you cause this is exactly how I feel so sick of seeing Jimin get sexualized by jkkers so it can fuel their fantasies and fanfics like he's not even human but just some doll to use. And of course tkkers being the shit stain of humans they are getting hit tweets hating on Jimin trying to paint him as some predator. Seriously can't wait for it to be over.

I honestly don’t know why jkkrs think they’re any different from tkkrs when it comes to shipping. They’re just as weird about it and they have such an insane obsession with sex positioning when it comes to JK and Jimin. Half the time it’s from the most inane things. Like why are you analyzing who’d bottom and who’d top from how they’re holding a steering wheel?