#jeff davis… i know what they were supposed to be

[lesbiradshaw]

if theo and liam weren’t supposed to end up together then what was up with that shot of theo (former murderer who claims to care about no one) appearing behind liam in the cracked, blood-spattered mirror right as he was considering killing someone just to talk him down.

[farklelucas]

okay so. now that ive taken some time to breathe, compose myself, and gather my thoughts, lemme lay out why the teen wolf movie was a hot holy mess (besides, you know, the obvious) as a teen wolf enthusiast and expert.

a lot of the characters were really little more than set dressing. to be specific, i think liam could have been replaced by a mailbox with a hat and the movie would have been the same (and this is coming from a major liam fan). the same can be said for mason, malia, melissa, peter, and honestly even the sheriff (which i hate bc god he was such a core of the show). i think parrish was only useful in one specific instance and even that isn't enough to warrant him being in the film. the characters i loved felt like cardboard cutouts and that wasnt fair to me, to the characters, or to the actors. i would have rather they not been there at all tbh. like just leave liam out of this if youre gonna do him like that fr

a lot of the plot points felt... disjointed and weird. saraid said it felt like three different movies in one and i have to agree. derek and eli felt like its own thing, then scott and allison, and then everything else (whatever the hell parrish and malia had going on, the lydia and jackson buddy cop comedy, liam in... japan with a ramen shop i think? and some random girlfriend that happened to be a kitsune) kind of fell to the wayside in between.

this movie was truly so flat without kira. it was hard to make a nogitsune movie without stiles, but it was almost impossible to make without her. hikari unfortunately ended up just feeling like a woman they randomly shoved into all the plot points kira was supposed to be in. because she didnt have a character besides liams girlfriend (and because liam was barely a character himself), she just couldn't compare and so kiras lack of presence was really felt. she left a huge hole in the narrative. they didnt even mention her and you knew what was missing. if you had cut khylin and dylan sprayberrys checks entirely, im sure they would have had enough to pay her as much as the rest of her white coworkers :) but that's just my opinion xxx

this was supposed to be for fans of the original series, but really just felt like jeff davis's weird rare pair fanfiction. instead of focusing on the dynamics that already existed - melissa and the sheriff, malia and peter, scott and liam, derek and. anyone really - he ended up delving into all these new dynamics with only two hours to develop them. malia and parrish (which. i really had to mentally run through the show to see if those two had interacted before and i dont think they have), liam and hikari, and derek and eli. all of which had a shot at being interesting but because there were so many different plots going on, it all just felt. awkward and confusing.

that being said, im gonna move onto derek and eli generally. i like eli! i do. i thought he was funny, i thought the actor was super charming (although the timeline made no sense because if he was born fifteen years ago And allison died fifteen years ago he would be braedens and. hate to say it folks. thats not braedens baby. make him mixed jeff davis you fucking coward). really, i liked him. ... but not at the expense of dereks character. the derek i knew was an asshole. he was mean, he was sarcastic, he was a bastard (honorifically). its not to say that people cant change, but... the derek i saw in the movie was a complete 180 from the derek we last saw in the series. honestly, the derek i saw in the series probably wouldn't have made a good parent - we saw how he was with erica, isaac, and boyd. even with scott. derek was kind of a dick. i dont even think he would have wanted kids - i think he would raise them out of duty, and i think he would if a partner wanted him to. but i dont think kids were ever in his life plan. and i think that could have been super interesting to see with him and eli. i think making him a parent could have been really interesting and it just. crumbled.

i know i mentioned the timeline in that last bit but. the timeline. it hurts my head. when was eli born. what year is it. how long has it been since scott has been in beacon hills. im so confused.

lets talk about adrian harris. shall we. i have made a list of people who i think would have been a better villain reveal are you ready: allison, peter, theo, chris argent, kate argent (resurrected), matt daehler (resurrected), victoria argent (resurrected), kira herself, danny mahealani, rafe mccall, isaac's shit dad, coach, greenberg, me with a baseball bat filled with rusty nails, jeff davis in a wig. the list goes on. you could not have picked a more random and less memorable character to reveal as your villain. i almost felt like i was being mocked. "haha! you didnt expect it to be this guy? the chemistry teacher who also died fifteen years ago? who had almost nothing to do with the plot until season 3? stupid! idiot!" i have never been so mad in my life

speaking of villain. did they forget what a nogitsune is. it needs a host. its not some guy they can stab to death. its a concept, a feeling, a parasite. its a manifestation of mental illness. but no sorry excuse me i must be wrong bc now its also a werewolf??????? im sorry. am i the crazy one. give me void allison! give me allison as the host and shes being taken over and she has those bags under her eyes and that creepy void stare and grin! give me crystal reed emmy noms! while we're on the subject, heres some more questions about the nogitsune include: why was it in a jar? why was it with LIAM of all people (who didnt even know what that was)? why did its powers completely change? HOW was it a werewolf????????? i cant stop thinking about it.

i said it once and ill say it again: jackson fucking carried this movie. he was giving all season one jackson, he was bringing comic relief, he was even bringing up ethan when no one else would! king! he carried. but he shouldn't have had to. dont get me wrong, i think crystal reed ate and left no crumbs. this was allisons movie and it should have been. but when the other two standout characters imo were jackson (who arguably did nothing) and coach (who did even less)... you simply didnt use your characters well. i think i would put deaton up there and even chris, but... scott and lydia? this should have been their movie. but scott spent nearly the whole movie ignoring his friends, and lydia was reduced to 'woman whose plot was about a man,' again. it was horrible. lydia outgrew that song and dance by season two. and scott? hasnt been to beacon hills in twelve years? hasnt seen his mom or his friends? not the scott mccall i know.

this is not about shipping discourse this post will never be about shipping discourse so i say this as a completely objective party. that being said. st/dia was so strangely shoved in there at the end. how did harris even know about lydia leaving stiles. how did he know about her dream. how did it add to the plot. like yes the nogitsune feeds of chaos and strife but i think lydia was getting enough of that watching her friends get murdered. it felt like a weird way to explain why dob wasnt there and it simply didnt work. i would have rather they not said anything about stiles at all.

anyway, this is skipping over a lot of other little things that i thought were really bad (sexualizing malia who literally had the mentality of an eight year old for most of her life AGAIN, why was mason a fucking cop, peters lack of interaction with the hale family which is what made him interesting in the first place, the absolute insanity of allison coming back to life and just being absolutely okay even though shes been dead for fifteen years, died at the hands of her friend, and almost everyone she knew including stiles, isaac, and kira are all just gone now), but boy oh boy. for a while it was funny bad. like "oh this is bad but i can still enjoy this for what it is" bad. but those last ten minutes. what is actually absolutely wrong with jeff davis. there are very few times ive felt this betrayed by tv shows i held this close to my heart, but im there. im heartbroken. i wont go on about it here, bc honestly, it would need its own post considering how much i have to say. but if the rest of the movie was bad? that was shit was traumatizing.

anyway. so sorry this post is this long, and so sorry i couldnt come back with a positive review. this show died long ago; i think we should have just let it rest - nobody asked for a reunion, and now i can see that was with good reason. so the next time jeff davis opens up an email with a header titled 'sequel idea' and he ccs tyler posey, i think we should all just agree to ler arden cho beat him to death in a dennys parking lot instead.

[unfortunately-obsessed]

I'll love you like a dog (you'll betray me like a man)

A/N: Not proofread. Rushed this before the gym tbh. Hope y'all guys enjoy. AO3 link

"Why do you need to punish yourself this much?"

Most houses and apartments on Earth-42 rest in darkness, so you glance down the street, eyes straining at the neon of rooftops. It's pouring. Miguel didn't had the chance to put up a fight when you are being this cruel.

The pressure is unbearable, his shoulders tense. You watched him send Gwen back her universe despite the probability of her having to confront homelessness there. You watched Miguel try to hurt a kid, and now you're watching as he sets teams to hunt Miles.

"I need to fix this," he tells you, staring and fists clenched. His voice's flat. It's the same answer everytime. You're used to it.

And you know why, of course. It's the reason why every Spider-Man must suffer.

It's the tenderness of grief. Tender like a bruise.

Miguel suffers and weeps. It's sickening to watch how much pain can make you aggressive.

You're more than aware you're a bad person. Never a hero, never sure why you were accepted among them.

(The truth about the multiverse is that they don't know it enough. The canon theory could be right. It could be wrong. They will never know in their lifetime.

It's cruel and merciless and they will never understand it fully.

You're never fast enough to save a person. You are fast enough to watch them die.

Grief comes in waves. Miguel will never see his daughter grow up.)

"Years dedicated to this job," you lament, voice clear through rain, "It all comes down to letting people die."

In another life, we bump on each other at the grocery store. There, we are meant to a happy ending.

Never this one. Here, Miguel looks at you with dread despite all else.

He stiffens further. And you're on his side, he knows it, because you will always be, loyalty outweighting what you know is wrong.

"I don't need your approval," he says. Miguel looks at you strange, eyes fiery red as if glowing with contained rage.

You inch closer to him. Miguel keeps dooming himself. It always going to end up like this.

"I'm just saying," you start, and there's something horrible inside you, "there's no coming back after this."

It's the awareness that you will let Miguel ruin you. Besides that, you would dissect him to know what's happening in his brain, gut him like a fish.

Grief comes in waves. It outweights reason, born from love. Gabriella's laughter is so loud in his head, right now. Not one day passed that he didn't want to take the his heart out of the chest.

You enable the worst in each other. It's true, you had watched him bite off the neck of a person, blood dripping from his fangs. He had watched you punch someone until your own knuckles scratched open.

"I know," Miguel snarls. Life brimming with sorrow. "But you will be on my side."

Jeff Davis has been dead since the beginning. This can go only one way.

Yet, what were Miles supposed to do? Stay still and watch his father die?

And what were you supposed to do? You'd chose Miguel over anybody else. You were never a good person.

Miguel is, though. Despite everything else, he is trying to do what he finds right. Despite the bitterness, the grief.

Somewhere else, I try harder to stop you. Here, I don't try at all. Here, I will meet you halfway.

It rains. It had been raining. The truth is that you are better a weapon than a person. Never letting go of violence like a mother's hand.

"Always," you say.

"And you understand why," he croaks out, solemnly. Taking a shuddering breath.

You purse your lips. "I do."

Loving Miguel had made you worse. "You will regret this," he waves, leaning closer.

You cannot save. You can only try. In another universe, we grew up together. The grief doesn't end but so does the love.

"Maybe." You smile to him, it's not a happy sight. He doesn't falter. "But you can do anything and I won't leave you."

Miguel is making the wrong decision. It's okay, good people also make bad things.

You stand in front of Miguel, and he loves you too. That's why he allows you to be here. "Just don't go where I can't follow."

Everything's sacrificial– you'll make Miguel's massacre holy until there's nothing else to sacrifice.

A/N: If you like what I do, please consider supporting me and buying a coffee!

[catrawoods]

Symbiote Jefferson Morales AU Earth 1610 short Headcanons ( So hear me out guys )

( pic not mine it belongs to the right owner)

-Unlike the day after Miles got bitten by the earth 42 spider, Jeff has discovered that the venom symbiote was from nowhere but a lost experiment from the other school ( NOT the visions academy of course) and has been "forced" bonded by trying to touch it with his hand before he freaked out that the symbiote is a living creature. than it went inside of his body

-He doesn't know how to be a hero like Spider Man 'cause the symbiote powers might be dangerous but has the greater responsibility, although he hated the old spider man for short because of his vigilantism but not only that saving the world everyday after crime ended before the new spider man came.

-Jeff begin to try his best to swing building to building but unfortunately he struggling to jump off and almost fall down. (well speaking of that because he's 40+ but it doesn't mean that he's clumsy to be honest especially climbing of course )

-he thought that he was supposed to be just a police officer and a caption of the PDNY but the symbiote abilities he used, he needs to know about the important of using the great responsibility like his son did ( even he didn't know his son's identity that he ended up being hero). but after the death of his brother, Aaron Davis, he didn't want to expose his strong emotion to release the venom symbiote, so he needs to stay calm

-in one night came of being in command he control the powers and transformed into the other version of the other symbiote variants and has been given the new code name called "Spider Venom"

without the other PDNY officers knowing, he needs to make sure that no one discovers his identity before he left out. his version of spider venom has being published in the news. even though his wife, Rio was been strangely having a judgement of that symbiote man and the voice being similar to the other person. he hates to lie to her but has to pretend like he's lying but not all the time ( just like Miles, he didn't want his parents to know that him and spider man were the same person, so he just lied for a bit of course)

-he and spider miles were the opposite humor of their powers even without knowing their identities they've used to be less rivals when they met each other in every situation (even they saw each other in the inside but not that)

-(BTSV Fan fiction) after spider miles returned to earth 1610. jeff has been out of mind and started to take damage from a far and gets controlled by the symbiote ( that was venom i can say ) but spider miles tried to tell him to stop what he's doing however jeff didn't listen but almost hurt miles. before he finished him spider miles slowly reveals his identity to him and made him realizing that spider man was Miles Morales, he run up to him and apologize about what he has almost scared him in the first place

[haven-of-dusk]

Someone -- I believe it was Hbomberguy -- once said that Steven Moffat should write concepts and pilots for shows and then hand them off to someone else, because he's quite good at concept creation, but struggles on follow-through.

And honestly that type of advice should probably apply to Jeff Davis as well.

The Hale family and their lore is a textbook example of giving yourself a huge vessel for worldbuilding and then never really using it. The chimeras could've been a great expansion of the world, but were instead mostly rehashes or unexplained. The druids were another great concept that got exactly zero expansion. You get the idea.

And possibly the most obvious example of all is the movie.

Having the pack be distant from one another and seemingly depressed could be a great setup for a movie taking place so long after the series, building intrigue for the audience about what exactly happened in the interim to cause the split and even if you don't fill in everything that happened, noodle incident style, you still have a prime setup for conversations between characters, rejuvenating connections, and organic exposition of what the past few years have been like because the characters themselves might not be aware of each others' recent histories. But the movie has so much plot to throw at you and so much Scallison filler to get through that it never takes time to explore those conversations or even let some characters interact (*cough* Liam and Mason *cough*)

Derek having a son who's afraid of being a werewolf could have been interesting, but the botched pacing means the setup is really only a short while before the payoff, and the progression feels plot-driven instead of character driven. And it does not help that Eli is then somehow able to fight alongside Derek and Scott as though he didn't just acquire his powers less than an hour ago.

Allison coming back could've been interesting, allowing characters to finally process grief they had pushed down but never worked through, and giving closure to everyone before they have to say goodbye again, but Chris barely gets to interact with Allison, nor does Lydia, and instead of processing grief, she just gets magically ressurected and reset like nothing happened and we're supposed to be satisfied with implied Scallison despite Allison still being a 17 year old as far as the narrative informs us.

I could go on, but then I'd be typing for hours. Jeff Davis is very good at coming up with ideas and characters, at least it seems (for all I know he's terrible at it and someone else in the writing room has been supplying the stuff he keeps botching), but he should really stick to that part of the creative process, because so much of what he does afterwards turns out middling, lackluster, or outright bad.

The fact so much good Teen Wolf fanfic exists is proof of this, honestly. There are a lot of good characters and ideas in Teen Wolf, and it's telling that a lot of them were explored better by the fans than the show itself ever did.

Stick to what you're good at, Jeff. Learn to quit while you're ahead and hand the reins off to people who are better suited to the other tasks.

[darklinaforever]

Ok. I need to address this.

Are there people who seriously think that Stydia was just fan service, out of nowhere in season 6? Seriously ? What series did you watch exactly? There are countless strong Stydia scenes with ambiguous and or romantic implications, or outright ROMANTIC background music in the series, long before Season 6! In 5X14 alone, Stiles asks Lydia to wake up while holding her hand with the song Where's My Love playing in the background. And yet people didn't see the romantic subtext in there? Really ? What do you need then?

Also, I've seen some haters claiming that there was nothing to be surprised about when Stydia broke up in the movie, because Dylan O'brien always hated Stydia, and said in an interview that they would have broken up at the after a few weeks...

So that's wrong.

Yes, Dylan said that, before going on to the fact that he was joking and that the two were meant to be together and happy. It's beautiful denial in some people anyway. To distort the words of an actor at this point to prove himself right.

Then it was Dylan who improvised the Stydia kiss on the cheek in 6X01. My ass he hates Stydia.

Also, quite a few of the cast members themselves were shipping Stydia together. To claim otherwise is bullshit.

And to anyone complaining that Stydia was too long and therefore no longer made sense...

It was fucking slowburn. A slowburn is supposed to be long to get a final realization! That's the point ! Canonically, in their universe, Stydia took 3 years to be together after being friends in high school. Sorry to tell you, but it's not an eternity or unrealistic. Not everyone gets in couple quickly.

Besides, I don't understand this obsession to say that Stydia is not valid because we've never seen them be a couple in a direct way...

You know, it's like complaining that fairy tales end right on the reunion of lovers finally reunited, or their marriage, being done, we have no insight into how their romantic relationship really works. But no one ever gets upset about it, or says it makes the relationship less valid. Besides, it's not a scheme found only in fairy tales, but including in a lot of classic novels with a central romance, or more recently in some romantic comedies.

And honestly? I don't care to see my ship's life as a couple! What matters is the buildup and the fact that they finally end up together in the end. Seeing them in couple mode is ultimately just a bonus, which I don't care about, because I can easily imagine it myself.

Oh, and if you're backing up the Stydia shit script of the movie as confirmation of your dumb ideas about this couple being forced, ridiculous, meant to break up forever, etc, well that just proves you're hopeless. This movie was absolute shit in every way, a goddamn thing that ruins the whole series, and not just Stydia. Even Allison's comeback is stupid. (and I say that as I ship Scott and Allison)

But in addition, knowing that the film still remains in the idea that Lydia is in love with Stiles and visibly sad to have abandoned him, and that Jeff Davis himself said in an interview that the two will most likely meet again... How is this supposed to be a victory for the anti?!

It mostly feels like a stupid breakup made to create unnecessary drama that would probably get a resolution later. Like the majority of couples getting together in a series that continues and has not actually ended its story.

Another of the reasons why I prefer the story to end once the couple are together rather than stretching out and seeing inevitable breakups / reconciliations made to keep the viewer hooked.

And as much as I'm a fan of Stydia, I absolutely refuse that this film be entitled to a sequel one day. It's shit, from A to Z, that deserves to be ignored and forgotten.

Teen Wolf movie sequel =

Also, those who act like Stydia aren't in a 6X20 couple are... pathetic at best? Everyone forgets this scene where Stydia takes her hand by instinct and where Lydia, remembering her first kiss with Stiles, tells Malia to kiss Scott to help calm him down? No, of course, let's forget this scene to justify our fantasy of: There was never anything ambiguous or romantic about Stydia, including in the last episode, proving that season 6A was a mistake!

And there are anti Stiles, acting like his character is toxic? People act like Stydia is toxic? Really ? It's so stupid it honestly makes me laugh.

I've been on tumblr for 2 years, but I only took a look at the Stydia/Teen wolf tag recently, and the crap I've seen there is really startling.

[ppatricia34me]

Isn't it lovely part 4

I released an Eyebrow, but with a quick glare from Emma and Carly I complied, Emma was the closest to the tinger and i was at the end and Carly was in the middle.

He pulled us Carefully in and once we were submerged he called “Ready?” We all nodded our heads in agreement, And then we are plunged.

It was dark and cold, Like how most space magazines describe the vacuum of space, but then we saw a bright light, The tiger animatronic that can just over to a yellow door and we all floated over to it, he pulled us in and we were Transported into a black lightt arcade, An animatronic band playing on a stage and children running arond Well parents watched on from the seating room.

My eyes wide and the place was enormous.

“Qwine, your clothes, theyve changed!” The girls Exclaimed pulling me out of my head.

I looked down, I was now in a burgundy Velvet suit with Brown dress shoes,I Slowly spend around to get a better look at my suite, I then stoped and looked at the girls, Only to have my eyes widened, Carly had her Long blonde hair curled in a half up half down Style wearing a white Midi Dress with a Mint Plaid, and Puff sleeves and a Square necklinen, Emam had on Midi Dress with dark blue Plaid and the same Puff sleeves and a Square necklinen, Turn long brown hair with styled in a curled up Bun with ringlets, Both rocked a pair of small black heels.

“You ladys look grate!” I smiled warmly at them, they both smiled at me, First genuine smile either of us showed each other sice Patricia was dranged away.

“ Hay wears the tinger guy?” Carly Suddenly asked, we all looked arond, only to find him over at the bar, grabbing drinks, he looked Different however instead of his faded black band t-shirt he wore, A '70s rockstar white jumpsuit.

He caught our eyes and waved, and made his way over to us, seting down a tray of drinks for us.

“Ok now its time to blend in, If Mr. Davis Suspects anything amiss he’ll In prison you across his multiple pizzerias,so act like your supposed to be here!” The white tinger spoke in a hushed tone.

We all nodded in argument as we sat in a booth alltogther.

“Ok but Shouldn't we have a cover story?” I asked, the white tinger smiled, Getting his head agreement enthusiastically.

“Totally, Oh I should have Introduced myself to make this easier, My names Tiger Rock, whats all of yours?” he smiled Awkwardly rubbing the back of snack .

“I’m Qwine, the Young woman with brunette hair is Emma and the blonde is Carly, Our fiend Patricia is a young women with Ginger hair, as you know shes the one were looking for.” I Introduced everybody nonchalantly.

Tinger Rock smiled and shook everyone's hand, then he Turned his attention back to our plan.

“Ok since I'm more familiar with this place than you guys, I’ll take the lead, Quinn your act is my right hand I'll tell people your my Apprentice At some big company I run, Emma and Carly I know it Sounds juvenile but You too can be my ladys, Mostly hanging off of me and my every word.” Tiger rock exclaimed.

We all Took a moment to soak in the plan but then agreed to it, After all he was right none of us knew how this place even worked.

Soon a waitress arrived at our table, Wearing a standard-looking uniforms and a big old fake smile plastered on her face.

“Wellcome, what can i get you 4 today?” the Waitress asked leaning in slightly.

“Um, A large Hawaiian pizza please!” Tiger rock spoke up a bit of nervousness in his tone.

The Waitress nodded her head and sped off.

We all Collectively took a sigh relief once she was gone.

“Is the Staff here always so creepishly smiley?” I asked raseing an eyebrow.

Tiger rock let out a nervous chuckle.

“Oh you have no idea, lets just say Frowns aren't allowed by his staff in this establishment!” Tiger rock exclaimed.

Carly, Emma and I Each shared unsettled looks with each other.

 Soon our pizza came and we all dung in, the pizza wasn't bad, but nothing beat Jeffs's pizza.

“So wears Patricia’s kidnaper?”I asked as we all finished our pizza.

Tiger rock glanced around before leaning in closer. 

"H..H..His name is.." Tiger rock begaing only to be Interrupted by someone calling out his name from acrose the room.

My Eyes widened as a giant Yellow animatronic rabbit in royal blue suit came up to our table.

His bright Teal eyes made me shiver as he looked our table over.

"Hello there, Tiger Rock, Why don't you introduce me to your new friends!?” the yellow rabbit grined as he lead over our table.

“O..Oh Yes of course Mr Davis, This is Qwien my New intern, and theses lovely ladys are my dates tonight!” Tiger rock cautiously introduced.

The yellow rabbit Nodded in understanding to Tiger rock, only to  tilt his head towards myself, I could have sworn I saw a second set of sharp teeth through his fake plastered grin.

“So your his Intern Ah, Whats the name of the company?” The yellow Rabbit's eyes narrowed but his Sinister grin stayed the same.

I Fidgeted a little and cleared my throat.

“Umm, T..T..Tinger Rock music store?” I nervously spoke.

The yellow rabbit Let out a chilling Full Belly Laugh.

“Your his Intern for a fictitious business!” The yellow rabbit weezed.

I shot Tiger Rock a glare, Who returned my glare with a nervous smile and a shrug of his Arms.

Sundle I was Dragged out of my booth by the coler of my shirt, the Bright teal couer of the yellow rabbits eyes Illuminated over my face, I I felt my heart in my throat as i Anxiously stared wide-eyed at the yellow rabbit, feeling my body shaking.

I Could hear the girls gasp and tiger rock begin to Anxiously Ramble on, In a fetal attempt to Talk some sense in the obviously Psychopathic rabbit.

The Yellow rabbit only laughed His cripple my shirt tightening as he turned his attention towards Tiger rock, With his Unoccupied hand he Lunched forward and slashed Tiger rock over his face and across his chest, Exposing the wires and causing oil to leak out, I watched in Horror as the robot fell to his knees, His eyes glitching out and showing a blue screen, the girls cryed out, Running to his side and kneeling down to be with him.

 The next thing I knew the Yellow rabbit snap his fingers, and A blue door appeared, He flung the door open and threw me inside.

The last thing i saw befor succumbing to the spinning Nauseating bright room was, Red gesture shoes Overlooking my Half buried body that  was draped in the  colorful ball pit.

[targwh0re]

Thoughts on Teen Wolf the Movie while watching it pt.5

PeTeR wAiT" why she say it like that😭

Peter's line would've made way more sense if the Nogitsune was actually giving him illusions (maybe one's about the fire, or being trapped in a coma again, or hell maybe stuff about the desert wolf bc I mega curious about their relationship)

He's playing lacrosse 🥍

Sir should've just dove out the way, he basically told u it had wolfbane on it

"Wolfsbane" reminds me of gerards "Mountain ashhhh!" Lmao I make myself laugh

How'd she knock him out so quick with just an elbow to the face, he's a werewolf

New plot idea, nogi could've made him hallucinate the fire and make him see Kate everywhere so when he sees Allison (as Kate) he's fed up with the illusions bc it's fucking him up. I'm a genius, Jeff Davis hire me 😎

um just cause it looks like her doesn't meanit us her...doppelganger's anyone? (Yes I know different show bit still) or she could be possessed

ur a zombie chica 🧟‍♀️ 😁👍

Not Peter being big baby and having Melissa take care of him in the back😭

Chris what's ur gun gonna do against black smoke, u know it ain't the oni bc the sun's still out

"I've killed oni before" yeah and then they killed you ma'am

Malia "I don't do speeches" Tate, proceeds to give a speech 😂

🎶If we go down then we go down together🎶

Lydia:🔊🔊🔊🔊🔊 Allison:👏📸💏☺😍🥰😂🧍‍♀️👭👫😭💋🏃‍♀️🤣😊🏹😘

Don't think I didn't notice you left out Stiles and Isaac in them flashbacks😑

Oop it's night night time now 🌃

um they belong to themselves, you know free will and all, c'mon it's 2026 in ur universe so get eith the program honestly so canceled 🥱

Also if you were gonna have him say they belong to me know you could've had them possessed by the flies again like in 3b and made him fight his own friends. It'd be good emotionally and for the plot bc we wouldn't know if he'd be forced to kill them or not

oooo and if Stiles was here Nogi takes over his body again and let's Allison go bc he's sacrificing himself for them, there rising another issue but Stiles has full faith that Scott will bring him back

"I'm still standing, I'm still the Alpha!" Sounded a whole lot better in the trailer

also would've been cool if Derek was forced to be on Nogi's side bc he has Eli hostage

"Please don't make me watch my friends and my family die - I can't do that again" is what should've been the line💔

Um that was 3 arrows not 1, thought you were supposed to be a perfect shot, you letting out some pent up rage on my boy Scott? 😶

When did Eli get tied back up? Would've been cool to see it happen telekinetically

I love hikari but it just would've made more sense for Kira to save him. She would've been more powerful by now, she'd have complete control bc of the skinwalkers, and there's the emotional connection that's established between them

Or at the very least if it had to be Hikari they could've done my earlier suggestion and made that little girl and her dog a flashback of Scott saving Hikari bc then it would've been like you saved me once and now I've saved you 👍

Looked cool af thou 🔥

Damn, headshot 🎯

Hold up, now wait a minute, you're suddenly a perfect shot again?😂

Hold up Parrish where your clothes at and what underwear you buying bc all ur other clothes burn up but ur undies are fireproof?!😭

Heyyy, I love whoever idea it was to give mama McCall a crossbow 😎👌

Not Peter now using the wolfsbane ring dagger that just poisoned him🤦‍♀️is he good by the way lol did Melissa have a lighter on her or something

Yeah, you motherfucker *copies Peter's dramatic hair flip*💅

Stab stab flip flip

Yeah Jackson and Lydia takedown we deserve

Stiles taught her how to use a gun and he'd be so proud of his wife right now😁

Would've been cool if it was, like I said earlier, Stiles being the one at gunpoint and Jackson comes to save them (Stiles would be so annoyed😂)

oh he wasn't tied up, he was just hiding again

Eli you little liar you already done the glowing eyes and the fangs

Awwww yes! Eli and Derek are my favorite part of this movie, I could watch a whole series about them🥺

Love how they roared together, like Derek was giving him strength and encouragement in that roar

Love the wolfie faces, though I do think the shows looked a little bit scarier, the eyes are really good in this one thou🐺

Baby Eli and Daddy Derek to the rescue

Now we all got our guns back that ig Parrish was hiding in his underpants 🙈😭

pow pow mf

I thought it was impossible to be both a fox and a wolf🤔

This supports my theory that this is just another illusion and none of it's real. It looks real and feels real but it's not

Ugh you was ugly ass mf wolf-fox🤢

Why his eyes glowing green? shouldn't it be a more yellowish green for a firefly 🤨

He looks like a mole deadass💀

🎶we're all in this together🎶

Why aren't Peter, Malia, Liam, Hikari, and Parrish going with them...

Eli honey, I love you but...why you running like that, you look like ur about to fall🤭

I like how the lighting in each room reflects their eyes

Well obviously its not real

You know my dumbass would just be in their yelling "echo" bc it'd be funny to me😭

Well that was very rude of you Nogi

What was Harris's goal, I'm still confused 😕

Should called him a pup instead of a child, it just would've been more pleasing to me bc it's a funny tease to say to a werewolf idk why

"Start with me" Nogi said okay say less 👍

Now you see me, now you don't

Scott this is kind of embarrassing for you bc Duke taught you how to fight using all your other senses when your sight won't help you...

you can't catch me, I'm the gingerbread man 🤪

So what did everyone else see? Did they just see them all on the nemeton looking ridiculous or did they do a disappearing act snd magically appear out of nowhere

Also why didn't nogi mess with them at the same time, seems a waste if you ask me to just leave them to come up with a plan, then ur just asking you get defeated but oh well🤷‍♀️

Oop well Eli's out the game again but Parrish is putting himslef back in, there's a good man (there's a nice demon😂)

Nogi's laugh made me laugh 🤣

Hell no, don't you dare. I know that look Derek Hale, don't you fucking do it. Bad werewolf, very bad werewolf! not infront of ur son! NO, HE IS NOT APART OF SCOTT'S PACK NOW IDGAF THAT HE'S THE ALPHA

PARRISH DON'T LIGHT THAT FUCKER UP

DEREKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!

So much for only a true alpha only every few hundred years, BUT IT WAS FUCKING EARNED DAMN IT😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

The way Eli said dad😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

Okay let me be serious, I don't think Derek's dead. This was was all on layer of the illusion, it looks real, it feels real, but it's not real!

Idk where Derek or the Nogitsune are but neither are dead, bc you can't even kill a Nogitsune so where is the fly like at the end of S3 hmmm🤨

He's not dead no, nope, i refuse

Poor Peter, Derek and him were really close, even though they had their differences they were still all they had left 😢

Eli😔

Ew Scott shouldn't be giving the speech it should be Peter or Eli

Where's Isaac (his first beta), Cora (his sister), and Stiles? You can't tell me they wouldn't be there for his funeral

Actually the first the first thing he said to you was "What are you doing here? This is private property"

AWWW Papa Stilinski coming in clutch🥺

DEREKKKK😭😭😭

This is where Lydia answers Stiles would renew their vows

NO UR NOT ALLOWED TO ADOPT ELI YOU ARGENT AND FAILWOLF (no offense)

Um isn't she still technically 17🤨

[trollprincess]

Watched the Teen Wolf movie.

… well, that happened.

I read a spoiler-free review a couple of days ago that was like, “You have to have seen the show before to know what’s going on,” but I’ve seen every episode, like, ten times at this point and I was still asking myself what the fuck was going on multiple times.

This feels like something Jeff Davis wrote on a napkin when he got bored and then didn’t edit. Like, it’s one thing to be like “Lydia left Stiles and he’s off ‘fighting his own fires’, whatever the hell that means.” You can’t get Dylan back, you can’t get him back. Whatever. But why the hell is Derek saying so many very, very dim things? That “your eyes!” line is funny, but it makes him sound like they put a Stiles line in his mouth. Melissa and Argent are in multiple scenes together and I literally had to stop myself and try to remember if they even *spoke* to one another. Are they together? Who the fuck knows? “Did you tell your mom?” doesn’t tell me shit. Maybe they are, maybe they’re not. There’s just so, SO much of this.

Addendum: I mean … Adrian? Really? Seriously?! What, did he get picked out of a hat?

Addendum, part two: Does Eli have a personality? He has no mom so he only has Derek who talks to him like he just met Eli yesterday, he’s on the lacrosse team but in Beacon Hills which guys aren’t, he has no friends that we see, all he does is steal Stiles’s jeep. Oh, and he’s got past trauma from seeing Derek wolf out, but JD can’t write people dealing with past trauma to save his life. That ending is hilarious because “teen” and “wolf” are literally the only two things I know about Eli. At all. I mean, he seems very nice, but it’s not enough to make me want to watch a new show about him. At least Scott had Stiles and lacrosse within that first episode.

So much of a two-and-a-half hour movie had me going, “Okay, that could have been written better.”

I said, “Well, that was A Choice,” out loud twice during the movie, which is two times too many.

Okay, I want to preface this by saying it is NOT a criticism. Crystal Reed is 38. She has had a little work done, which there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with. *However*, these actors are all notably older than they were during the show, which makes sense given they AND THEIR CHARACTERS have aged. So are we just handwaving Allison’s aging? I mean, she’s clearly physically *not* a teenager, but is Allison supposed to have come back as one? Okay, fine, we dangled some keys over the Nemeton and now Allison’s back? I just …

The fact that there are at least two characters who are like, “I haven’t used my powers at all in the last fifteen years!” is annoying as balls. I just have a hard time believing that overachiever Lydia is really going to let her banshee abilities slide. I feel like the Lydia I know, over the course of fifteen years, would have been able to send a dart into the bullseye through an open bar door from a block away from absurd amounts of practice. She might not have been fighting monsters the same way she had in high school, but STILL.

Jackson could have not been there and the flimsy plot would have still worked, and yet Colton was enjoying himself immensely in a way everyone but maybe Ian was not. Also, Jackson and Ethan are still together! Awww. Wish we could have gotten two and a half hours of that.

NGL, I laughed when Derek died. It was mostly because I could see the strings. Which I probably shouldn’t be able to, but I could see “well, he’s Superman now and we can’t bring him back for more movies and episodes” tugging that little plot point into position. To be fair, you can’t really have the character walk that plot point into existence when you’re writing him from minute one as if he banged his head off something.

Scott and Allison … just … can we stop for a second and go back to that question of where she’s at when she comes back? Because I feel like we’re going back to the issues with Malia when she returned from being in coyote form for years, except in that instant she lived those years. And it was still problematic for her to be having sex with Stiles and going to regular high school classes. Allison hasn’t been *alive* for fifteen years. She hasn’t even been a CORPSE. She’s been ash in an urn. And now she’s back after dying when she was a teenager, and it’s just back with Scott and everything’s normal? Come on. Come ON.

Meanwhile, Malia and Parrish. I’m fine with that. Provide that man as many fitted uniforms and fireproof underwear as he needs to rip and/or burn off.

I’m mad about Hikari, because I’m sure she’s great, but also it feels like they wrote Kira in and then when Arden wouldn’t do it they erased Kira and drew Hikari in but without giving her much to do as a person instead of a kitsune. (And if she and Liam were together together, then let them be? I don’t fucking know at this point.)

I know this sounds like I didn’t like the movie, and that’s because I didn’t, but also I appreciate it being so badly written because watching badly written things makes me throw things and shout “I can write better than that!”, and in this case I have a first draft inspired by Teen Wolf crossed with Yellowjackets which I can direct my annoyance at.

[queeniequeens]

Hi it's me from the Teen Wolf society if Scisaac won post. And yes! Please don't ask me for a link because I don't have it because it came out 8+ years ago. But Jeff Davis said the plan was to have Scott and Isaac date and Isaac was supposed to be the one who died (because Daniel wanted to leave) but MTV executives stepped in and were like "but Scott's in love with Allison, a girl?" And so they put Allison and Isaac together (for some dumb ass reason) and that made Crystal want to leave. And so they lost both Allison and Isaac because MTV didn't think their fans would know Scott could be completely in love with Allison, a girl, and also love Isaac, a boy. And like I believe him cause it makes complete sense. Isaac like fell for Scott even in s2. So I mean.

I'm so sorry I just saw this (for some reason I don't get proper notifications on mobile for asks even though it's the main way I use tumblr lksdhgskjd 10/10 great design) but thank you so much for this info!!! It makes total sense.

It's wild how recently this show aired (relatively speaking) and yet how much different the media landscape looks today compared to what it looked like when Teen Wolf was still airing.

Alas, if only. At least we have fanfiction.

[cxncordia]

Another thing that I wanted to point out is: Have you seen how gay Teen Wolf is? and not only that, how some of their actors seem to be into relationships with age gap?

This train of thought started when I realized that this poster had at least four gay guys, a bisexual and a queer man front and center while the other six were straight.

And that made me wonder, how did we get here? Because having six male queer actors front and center sharing space with other six straight actors seems like a VERY inclusive space.

But then I started to go through their dating story:

We know that Colton, who was the first to came out, was dating and eventually married Jeff Leatham who is currently 52 years old while he is 35.

We know that Charlie Carver came out too a few years ago, but we don't know his dating history, so I'll leave him out of this.

We may infer also that Andrew Matarazzo is not straight. We don't know for sure what gender he prefers, but it's been rumored that he's queer. Some rumors also indicate he used to date a 47 year old man, but again, these are rumors.

We know Posey is bisexual. We don't know what are the names of his male partners, so I'll leave him out of this equation too.

Michael Johnston came out next and he's dating a man who is 36 years old currently with him being 27.

Froy Gutierrez, my baby boy, is dating Zane Phillips. Zane is 30 years old while Froy is 25. If rumors are to be considered, this is not Froy's first partner who has an age gap with him, as one of the issues I had with Richard Madden and Froy's relationship was the obvious age difference.

Now this would not be much if not for some key elements that I have learned about the show:

Crystal Reed (Allison Argent) is 6 years older than Posey. And I know she looks the part of a teenager but it's kinda interesting that Posey was the only "teen" in Teen Wolf back then.

The whole thing with Derek and Kate (and later between Derek and Jennifer Blake).

That thing between Parish (who was supposed to be at least 20+ something) and Lydia (who was 18 at most during the season they wanted the ship).

The rumored "kiss" between Theo and Liam that didn't came to happen because Dylan Sprayberry didn't feel comfortable with kissing Cody Christian. Mainly because they were friends and mainly because of the age gap between them.

So... am I again trying to find a thread here or is there something going on we should be aware?

I mean, I know that we homosexuals tend to get in tons of power dynamics and relationships that are quite unbalanced. And I expect that in places like my country where gay culture is still "hush hush". But not in the USA which is supposedly much more forward and inclusive: one would expect that given the openness of the culture gay relationships would be much more horizontal. And the fact that this seems to be a theme in three of the gay cast member's love life and a constant in Jeff Davis' work (another gay man) makes me wonder if there's a thread here.

What was Stilinski's saying?

One is an incident, two is a coincidence, three's a pattern, and four is enough for a warrant.

Just sayin'...

[whitedahlia13]

You haven't seen the movie and I am glad you didn't. It was... well... I'm just wondering if there's gonna be the second movie, without DoB, do you think we'll get anything good? Jeff said there was a scene, which didn't make it, where Lydia picks up phone to call someone and the camera shows Stiles' name on it, I just... This gives me too much hope, right? how can one trust Jeff Davis after pre-season 4 interviews and pre-movie interviews...

Everything I’ve heard about the movie has made me even more glad I didn’t see it too. So, I’m sorry to say it, but no, I don’t hold out hope for any quality Stydia in future films. Without Stiles we are missing half of our OTP – and the beating heart of Teen Wolf. There, I said it. Not taking it back. The show is lifeless without Dylan O'Brien.

As far as Jeff Davis’s comments… After all this time, I’ve learned not to put much stock into what he says. He's notorious for tossing fans breadcrumbs—and then, not delivering the goods. I’ve lost track of how many times he has teased cut scenes over the years. Remember how there was supposed to be a Stydia love scene in 6x10?

The fact that he even mentioned this new cut scene is suspicious. Why not just SHOW IT? He literally has the power to decide what stays and what goes. I don’t believe it has anything to do with time or expense. Like most Stydia scenes, it couldn’t have been more than a few seconds, which is a drop in the ocean in an almost 2.5-hour movie. And what TW saved on their lighting budget over the years surely could have been put into a Stydia Savings Account to fund the filming of a ten-second scene.

You're right to be cautious. I don’t trust JD either. I mean, there were other ways to explain Stiles’s absence—but he chose the version where Lydia leaves him, and frankly, it feels cruel. Sure, there were worse options (which we will not discuss) but still… Why break up the only couple that no one actually got to see as a couple? Again, show, don’t tell. Jeff claims to love Stydia, but he had a similar opportunity to work around Dylan’s absence (i.e. ALL of 6b) and he did the bare minimum, for the most part choosing to ignore Stydia at every turn. Obviously, Dylan couldn’t be there, but that didn’t mean Stiles couldn’t be. What about texts, emails, photos? And Dylan was in the finale that does not exist. But where was the Stydia we waited for? Hardly any eye contact, a brief hand hold, and (thankfully) the two of them getting out of the Jeep together at the end. More breadcrumbs...

All things considered, it’s actually a miracle we got the Stydia we did over six years. And that is in huge part thanks to Dylan O’Brien and Holland Roden. The way they understood and played these characters, the way they (especially Dylan) fought for Stydia was commendable and unforgettable. I’m more than happy to keep what they gave us close to my heart, to keep insisting that 6x10 was the finale, and to bolt for the nearest exit next time a movie date is announced.

Thank you for your question, love. I’m SO sorry I couldn’t be reassuring. Just remember, we’re all in this together. The Stydia we know and love haven’t changed. Plus, there are always fics to read for new, much more satisfying content.

[crimievolution]

"Budget Cuts" in Criminal Minds

While Criminal Minds, at its core, is a show about criminals and the heinous crimes they commit, most fans became attached to the characters and their backstories. Aisha Tyler went on to talk about the changes in these characters in the move to streaming. “We don’t always get those moments of brightness in the BAU, and I think that’s something people [will see]. We’re streaming, so we’re longer, and we’re able to do more, kind of be more authentic, be a little grittier” (Simons).

Many fans theorized that the reason there were no queer characters on Criminal Minds was due to the network. In fact, two main characters �� Spencer Reid (pictured below) and Emily Prentiss – were originally supposed to be bisexual and lesbian, respectively. The creator of the show, Jeff Davis, even commented on this on Twitter, saying that “I was originally planning for Reid to be bi,” but he further explained that “I got push back from the powers that be” (Davis). The same was said about Prentiss’s character, portrayed by Paget Brewster. One of her co-stars, Kirsten Vangsness, discussed it in a podcast called Let’s Process: “A million years ago when Paget was still on the show, [the writers] came up with the storyline that Paget’s character was going to get up out of bed and there was going to be a woman in bed with her. And they nixed it.”

Paget Brewster also discussed how she was fired from the show after its fifth season due to ‘budget cuts.’ “And I loved doing it, but I was so soured by the experience of being fired for no reason. Because it wasn’t budget cuts. The person they had hired to replace us got paid twice what we got paid! It’s a network that’s not particularly kind to women. That’s why a lot of people leave those procedurals. Or are fired. It’s tough” (Brewster). In this interview, she talks about how the network wasn’t kind to women, and therefore fired both her and her co-star, AJ Cook because someone from the network had called the producer, Ed Bernaro, and told him that they wanted new women on the show.

Brewster, Paget. “Paget Brewster on Leaving Criminal Minds and not fucking up Community.” The A.V. Club, 30 Sept. 2015, https://www.avclub.com/paget-brewster-on-leaving-criminal-minds-and-not-fuckin-1798285532.

Davis, Jeff [JeffDavis75]. “Fun fact for Criminal Minds fans. I was originally planning for Reid to be bi. That got shut down by 4th episode with his crush on JJ.” Twitter, Oct. 2012.

Davis, Jeff [JeffDavis75]. “To clarify: I know what bisexual is. I’m a gay man myself. I got push back from the powers that be.” Twitter, Oct. 2012.

“Episode Five: Kirsten Vangsness.” Let’s Process. AfterEllen, https://afterellen.com/afterellens-podcast-lets-process-episode-five-kirsten-vangsness/.

Simons, Roxy. “Aisha Tyler Confirms Tara Lewis is Pansexual in ‘Criminal Minds: Evolution.” Newsweek, 1 Dec. 2022, https://www.newsweek.com/criminal-minds-evolution-tara-lewis-pansexual-aisha-tyler-1763842.  

[rjdavies]

Maddox Files Mad Love Monday!

Dice Maddox a 26 year old private investigator in Toronto, Ontario. Described as a cross between Nancy Drew meets the X-Files. 

Dice Maddox is a 26-year-old in the first book and 27 in the rest of the books so far (up to book 4)

She applied and received her Private Investigator's license (in Ontario) at the age of 18. First job as a PI she hounded Eric Lawson, a Toronto Private Investigator of Lawson Investigations until he agreed to hire her temporarily. Eventually, he met her aunt who was less than thrilled about the idea, and they were soon married, making Eric her uncle and after a while her partner.

When Eric Lawson was killed in a car accident, her aunt encouraged her to take a leave of absence from the business. Four years later, Dice Maddox had enough of taking advice from people and decides to take back her business. Reopening a Private Investigation office, and stumbling into a world of mystery, how well did she know her aunt Sophie who raised her after her parents had died in a car accident when she was five years old? Her deceased uncle was privy to an underworld of interlacing mystery and peculiar individuals that are more than happy to introduce themselves to Dice Maddox. Mystery with hints and underlying science fiction elements, join Dice Maddox on her adventures and solving cases in the streets of Toronto, Ontario.

Book Quote: 

Her cell phone rang. Checking the caller ID it was Chris Douglas her ex-fiancé again. Curiosity caught the better of her as she answered. “Yes?” 

“It’s about time you picked up I’ve been trying to catch you all day.” 

“I do work.” 

“I know but I’m desperate I need your help tonight.” 

Groaning on the inside, she should have let his call go to voice mail. “I’ve got plans already.” 

“Dice eating a tub of ice cream and watching foreign movies isnʼt plans.” 

“Ha! A lot you know about me. Why are you calling me anyways?” 

“Remember I asked you last week if you would go to Jeff Bigginsʼ birthday party with me and you did say yes. I remember you said yes.” 

Yes, she remembered saying yes, it was next month and she figured she had enough time to get out of it. Jeff was the creepy guy that just didn’t understand the word no, he was supposed to be Chrisʼ friend yet the moment he found out she knew about Chris sleeping around he was there trying to pick her up. “Yeah, thatʼs next month what about it?” 

“I got the dates mixed up it’s tonight.” 

“What?” she shook her head no, “No, Iʼm not going.” 

“Dice you promised me you would come.” 

“Alright, I guess we both made promises to each other that we arenʼt going to keep.” She felt bad for saying that as soon as the words came out. 

“Youʼll never know how much I regret doing that to us. I need you. You can network. There will be a ton of rich people at the party that you can pass your business cards out to,” he pleaded. 

“Fine,” she grumbled. “Fine, I’ll just need time to have a shower and get ready. I’m not even at home right now.”

From “Maddox Files: Blurred Lines” (Book 2)

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[princeescaluswords]

I've seen people like this furious that Scott got a truck to drive to work instead of a 46-year-old Jeep.,

You know what they don't think about? Stiles never learned how to properly take care of said Jeep, such as in Co-Dominance (5x13). He didn't know what the parts were as was shown in The Dark Moon (4x01). He used duct tape as a repair tool since he got it. He threw wrenches at it when he was upset in Status Asthmaticus (5x10). Does that mean Stiles was a bad friend to himself?

@celestialvoid-fanfiction did watch the movie. (And yes, I want this loser to see this.) They just watched the movie looking for ways to shit on the main character, so when they heard the word "towed," their brain just stopped working. After all, they don't ask themselves why Jeff Davis would include that particular snippet in the movie script, unless they literally think Jeff said -- "you know what, I want all these rabid fans to hate my lead protagonist." In what universe would that happen?

I've sat here for seven days, watching the tags filled with insults and bullshit about the lead protagonist and Deranged Sterek nonsense, like "The Sheriff said that Derek had conflicting feelings about the Jeep, so that means Sterek is canon." So I guess that means that Scerek is canon too, because Derek only came back for Scott at the end of the series. (Hint: it's not.) Or I've seen "Eli is supposed to be connected to Stiles 'cause he wears plaid!" as if the only other person to wear plaid in the entire movie wasn't Scott, who wore it in the first scene.

Look, we know you didn't like this, but if you were determined to hate the movie, why did you watch it? Why fill the movie and character's tags with bile and viciousness? Well, I guess that question answers itself.

So, last night, while I was at work, I was scrolling through Tumblr, as one does when they're bored, and I came across this lovely suggested post.

Putting aside that this lovely asshat deliberately tagged it as Scott McCall, which is why I saw it in the first place, but I'm forced to ask the age-old question that I've had to ask this fandom for years now.

Did you actually watch the movie?

Because if you had, you'd know that Noah specifically mentions how his own son left it when he left town, which is why Derek had it towed. Like, it's something that was specifically mentioned in the movie.

I will never understand these people who actively look for reasons and twist facts to justify their hatred of a character for just existing.

[noyzinerd]

Derek Hale: The Goodest Bad Boy

Derek was a villain in season 2...kinda.

Bless Jeff and the writers' little hearts, they honestly really tried to make Derek out to be menacing but all of their efforts just made fans feel more sympathetic to him and his pack.

Go ahead, watch season 2 again, but try to pretend like you're seeing it for the first time and you don't already know that Derek is actually a decent guy, and listen to the show's main narrative which is supposed to be Scott. You get the sense from the dialogue that Jeff&Co. want you to think Derek making a pack is a bad thing, that Derek is basically a replacement Peter. However, it didn't seem to occur to the writers at the time that the fans were definitely not going to see it that way. At this point, Derek had been given way too sympathetic of a backstory, making a lot of Derek's 'failures' come off less like "Scott, the good guy, thwarted Derek, the bad guy" (like when keeping Derek's pack from killing Lydia) and more like "Derek, the well meaning guy, hesitated and keeps making mistakes because he doesn't truly know if he's doing the right thing and is just trying to do his best".

But what about Derek's betas? The boy beaten by his father, the girl with epilepsy, and the boy that sat alone every day, they couldn't possibly be bad guys.

All of Derek's pack got sympathetic backstories, yes, but so did other villains like Matt, Peter, the Darach, Deucalion, even Gerard Argent having cancer. I honestly believe Isaac, Erica, and Boyd were meant to be well-rounded villains but the writers upshot too far and accidentally made them too endearing to fans. If you watch the ice rink fight in season 2 or when Isaac and Erica test the kanima venom on Lydia, their over the top smug grins, the menacing music that plays whenever they show up, the super antagonistic dialogue about killing Lydia and Erica stealing Scott, it all plays like the writers are in the back waving a big sign saying "You should not like these guys! They are evil!" In the ice rink battle, Scott (again, the main point of view we're supposed to be taking here) tells Derek's pack that Derek gave them empty promises of power only to strengthen his own power while turning them into nothing more than guard dogs, to which Derek responds "He's right. It is about power." We were supposed to fear and be disgusted by Derek's actions, but instead, we were all "Awwww, but Derek saved these hurt kids and wants to stop the lizard from killing people!" despite the actual dialogue saying otherwise. Jeff Davis took a sad, man-shaped, broken boy who was essentially raped and had his entire family burned alive and tried to somehow make us hate him. But how could we, when, let's face it, most of us were broken little girls and boys, ourselves.

They have him angry and tyrannical and constantly making bad calls, but instead of coming across as someone drunk on power that needs to be stopped, he comes across as young and struggling and just frustrated. There's a reason why the tag 'failwolf' is a term of endearment. Usually, when Derek is tagged as a failwolf in fics, it's never meant in a 'look at this stupid idiot' way and more like a 'awww, buddy, you poor disaster of a man'.

This plan backfired so spectacularly that Jeff didn't know what to do with Derek's character anymore, in the face of millions of fans demanding more of him, that Derek essentially had less and less to do as the series continued until Hoechlin eventually left.